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[01-Sep-2007 08:05:09] <shoufa> hi, am new to zenoss and SNMP, i need to monitor CPU temperature
[01-Sep-2007 08:05:55] <shoufa> i found some tutorials like: http://webaj.com/how-setup-environmental-monitor-zenoss-1-1-2-and-centos-5-0.htm but it all talks about MIBs and external devices, i just need to monitor CPU temp for my server...
[01-Sep-2007 08:06:00] <shoufa> any ideas?
[01-Sep-2007 08:27:33] <shoufa> ???
[01-Sep-2007 08:49:34] <shoufa> anyone alive here? :)
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:14] <b52laptop> shoufa, halla shibby :d , one alive but sorry i don't know the answer :( , but i think you "should "" try mailling list .... :D
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:21] <b52laptop> ops sorry
[01-Sep-2007 08:51:30] <b52laptop> shoufa, halla :d
[01-Sep-2007 08:52:02] <shoufa> thanks :) i will do as you suggested
[01-Sep-2007 08:52:32] <b52laptop> your welcome
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[01-Sep-2007 22:19:50] <Bulwinkle> a
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[02-Sep-2007 06:51:35] <monrad> bzed: hey
[02-Sep-2007 06:51:47] <monrad> any progress on the debian packages :)
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:07] <bzed> not yet
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:24] <bzed> also I'm still waiting for the latest dbconfig-common
[02-Sep-2007 06:52:29] <bzed> I'll poke seanius to upload it
[02-Sep-2007 06:54:23] <monrad> i just got my hands on a 64 bit machine
[02-Sep-2007 06:54:33] <monrad> should be fun with the new rrdtool version
[02-Sep-2007 06:56:03] <bzed> ahh
[02-Sep-2007 06:56:20] <bzed> that reminds me that I have to poke the rrdtools maintainer to upload a the new version
[02-Sep-2007 06:57:30] <monrad> i think its still a beta release
[02-Sep-2007 06:57:55] <monrad> but its not that easy to hack into the zenoss build system with all the new dependencies
[02-Sep-2007 06:58:10] <monrad> it would be easy if it was native debian packages :)
[02-Sep-2007 06:58:25] <monrad> i could make a new rrdtools packages myself then
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:30] <bzed> no, 1.2.13 is stable
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:33] <bzed> err 1.2.23
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:37] <bzed> 1.3 is the beta
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:46] <monrad> yes
[02-Sep-2007 07:03:55] <bzed> and 1.2.19 is in debian
[02-Sep-2007 07:04:09] <bzed> which has some annoying bugs if it comes to large numbers
[02-Sep-2007 07:04:25] <monrad> ah
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:01] <monrad> in the last 24 hours i have not had an snmp poll in under 300 secs :/
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:42] <bzed> oh
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:44] <bzed> hmm
[02-Sep-2007 07:05:45] <bzed> btw
[02-Sep-2007 07:06:05] <bzed> zenoss 2.1 will support google maps to locate your stuff ;)
[02-Sep-2007 07:06:51] <monrad> yeah i look at trac :)
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:02] <monrad> now i just need an "weather map"
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:14] <monrad> but i guess one should be able to do that on top of that
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:41] <bzed> add that to the bug as suggestion
[02-Sep-2007 07:07:42] <bzed> :)
[02-Sep-2007 07:08:39] <monrad> but with 1016 pieces of equipment scatter in around 300 locations i think we are going to like the map stuff :)
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:11] <monrad> hmm i think zenmodelere uses a lot of memory
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:17] <monrad> when it has been running for at long time
[02-Sep-2007 07:11:51] <bzed> probably some memory issues!?
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:03] <bzed> somebody should debug it :)
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:08] <bzed> anyway
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:14] <bzed> I'm off to work to do some stuff for debian
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:18] <bzed> tty later
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:34] <monrad> see you
[02-Sep-2007 07:12:37] <monrad> have a nice day
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[02-Sep-2007 08:15:24] <bzed> monrad: sooo... dbconfig-common is in unstable
[02-Sep-2007 08:16:31] <monrad> :)
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:05] <monrad> someone is sending us 16K broadcast packages a second for the last hour
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:14] <monrad> time for a zenoss threshold :)
[02-Sep-2007 08:18:44] <bzed> hehe
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[02-Sep-2007 14:19:16] <monrad> are there problems with zenoss on 64 bit?
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[02-Sep-2007 14:30:23] <monrad> ERROR netsnmp: truncating unsigned value to 32 bits <- i get alot of those
[02-Sep-2007 15:00:25] <DaveToo> I haven't figured those out yet
[02-Sep-2007 15:38:53] <monrad> hmm
[02-Sep-2007 15:39:56] <DaveToo> I'm trying to figure out why zenperfsnmp keeps hanging up on one of my systems,
[02-Sep-2007 15:40:02] <DaveToo> my biggest server
[02-Sep-2007 16:19:04] <monrad> i have only had performance problems with zenperfsnmp
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[02-Sep-2007 17:30:16] <Amr_not_Amr> hello .. how can I monitor mysql and Ipservice?
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[02-Sep-2007 18:11:51] <bzed> monrad: hmm, no clue about the 64bit stuff, I'd ask cluther when he's around here again
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[03-Sep-2007 12:32:20] <oubiwann> testing...
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[03-Sep-2007 13:02:20] <oubiwann> excellent... new logger's working as expected
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[04-Sep-2007 11:51:57] <PJ_fun> anyone knows what is the default password to get into Zenoss VMware
[04-Sep-2007 11:52:45] <PJ_fun> wat is the login to use to get into the management console?
[04-Sep-2007 11:53:19] <PJ_fun> anyone there?
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[04-Sep-2007 17:02:35] <hspcd> Does anyone here have an opinion/experience on the upgrade from 2.0.3 to 2.0.4? I read some forum posts that seemed to point to some issues where some bugs were fixed and still others were introduced.
[04-Sep-2007 17:56:23] <rlount> Hi all.
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[04-Sep-2007 19:50:30] <nrunge> What causes a bad OID?
[04-Sep-2007 19:50:39] <nrunge> I cannot display any performance monitoring.
[04-Sep-2007 20:56:42] <hspcd> Does anyone know of a way to have Zenoss pull content from a site (i.e. images, javascript, etc.) and calculate response times (i.e. full page load times)? I have a basic response time query right now that generates graphs but the response times are not realistic since it's only measuring how fast the server response to a basic http get request.
[04-Sep-2007 20:58:15] <davetoo> Write a wrapper around a wget that spits out nagios plugin-format results?
[04-Sep-2007 20:58:25] <davetoo> send the wget output to /dev/null
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[05-Sep-2007 00:40:07] <Boingo> Hello everyone. Is there a way to bind zenoss, the web part, and the monitoring parts (zneping,zendisc,etc) all to one IP?
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[05-Sep-2007 14:01:46] <Bulwinkle> seems like things have been really quiet around here lately.
[05-Sep-2007 14:03:03] <Bulwinkle> is anyone around looking at other OSS Network Monitoring systems (besides ZenOSS)?
[05-Sep-2007 14:23:22] <creiht> Bulwinkle: There is no other NMS besides ZenOSS :)
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:02] <Bulwinkle> creiht: If that were only the case.... They'd be justified with the price tag they are asking from me....
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:08] <creiht> hehe
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:08] <creiht> ahh
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:16] <Bulwinkle> especially since it keeps crashing
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:38] <creiht> Bulwinkle: Well if you want alternatives, the other good one in my book is OpenNMS
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:46] <creiht> A bit more difficult to set up and configure
[05-Sep-2007 14:24:52] <creiht> But scales very nicely
[05-Sep-2007 14:25:17] <creiht> It also doesn't have as sexy of a UI
[05-Sep-2007 14:25:51] <MoreDakka_> anyone alive this morning?
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:06] <MoreDakka_> Ooo....maybe I should refresh my chat window...hehe
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:07] <creiht> Yes... but off to a meeting... bbl
[05-Sep-2007 14:26:35] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle, you here?
[05-Sep-2007 14:27:32] <Bulwinkle> Yes
[05-Sep-2007 14:28:13] <MoreDakka_> Do you know if any of the versions of Zenoss can report on a per-port basis for a swtich (alert if a port goes down without using traps)?
[05-Sep-2007 14:28:55] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: you can set that up using the Nagios stuff
[05-Sep-2007 14:32:14] <MoreDakka_> Cool. I'll look into that. Do you know when 2.1 is comin' out and if dependencies are going to be included?
[05-Sep-2007 14:32:18] <MoreDakka_> I can't wait for that feature.
[05-Sep-2007 14:34:55] <Bulwinkle> I'm looking to jump ship as it so.... If I can find something better you won't be seeing me around here any longer
[05-Sep-2007 14:35:23] <MoreDakka_> What are you looking into? Zenoss is pretty full featured.
[05-Sep-2007 14:36:28] <Bulwinkle> Has lots of features but I'm not going to pay $40000 to get someone who can help me every time it blows up....
[05-Sep-2007 14:38:18] <MoreDakka_> 40k....wow. that is quite the premium. This isn't the only monitoring software out there. How many devices do you have?
[05-Sep-2007 14:38:44] <MoreDakka_> Weren't you looking at working with the Zenoss team at one point? Can't remember if that was you or someone else.
[05-Sep-2007 14:39:51] <Bulwinkle> That was me... they are basically asking for $100/device for support... we have 400 devices so..
[05-Sep-2007 14:40:23] <MoreDakka_> 100/device...that's a little retarded.
[05-Sep-2007 14:40:35] <MoreDakka_> I could see $10/device...maybe
[05-Sep-2007 14:47:48] <MoreDakka_> SolarWinds has a nice product, my boss has tried it out but he wants to stay with Open Source for now cause of the cost. I don't think it'll be $40k though.
[05-Sep-2007 14:56:40] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: yeah, the solarwinds orion solution is pretty sweet. We are Ciscocentric here so the NetFlow stuff is pretty cool.
[05-Sep-2007 14:57:56] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: did you get to look at that Nagios stuff? You can do quite a bit with it. The best way to do it is though traps though.
[05-Sep-2007 15:01:07] <MoreDakka_> I couldn't find the command that I can use for that. I've got a nagios plugin running, the check-http plugin which is pretty sweet.
[05-Sep-2007 15:01:35] <MoreDakka_> So I have an idea on how to use it, just need the plugin name.
[05-Sep-2007 15:11:42] <Boingo> Is it true that WMI monitoring is only available on the Enterprise version?
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:28] <Boingo> The last post in this thread seems to indicate so:
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:29] <Boingo> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3076&highlight=zenwin+setup
[05-Sep-2007 15:14:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - How To Install ZenWin on my XP environment (at community.zenoss.com)
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[05-Sep-2007 16:01:50] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: what are you trying to monitor with WMI?
[05-Sep-2007 16:02:19] <Boingo> Performance metrics.
[05-Sep-2007 16:02:25] <Boingo> Services.
[05-Sep-2007 16:03:03] <Boingo> Processes.
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:11] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: I currently monitor Services with WMI, I monitor Performance metrics differently
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:23] <Bulwinkle> Depending on the performance metric
[05-Sep-2007 16:17:31] <Boingo> Does it work on core? Or only Enterprise?
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[05-Sep-2007 17:02:48] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: I'm running core
[05-Sep-2007 17:03:57] <Boingo> So the guy in that thread was incorrect?
[05-Sep-2007 17:05:01] <Boingo> And, if so, do you have more documentation on how to setup zenwin, the docs that came with it aren't very clear.
[05-Sep-2007 17:15:46] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: do you have your devices added?
[05-Sep-2007 17:15:56] <Boingo> Yes.
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:19] <Bulwinkle> so they should be in a group like /severs/windows?
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:33] <Boingo> Yes, they are. When I run the test of zenwin from the command line on the device I get errors.
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:41] <deviousz> helllo
[05-Sep-2007 17:16:43] <Boingo> Even before I set it up as a service.
[05-Sep-2007 17:17:41] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: have you put anything in your zProperties under zWinUser and zWinPassword?
[05-Sep-2007 17:17:45] <Bulwinkle> hi deviousz
[05-Sep-2007 17:18:52] <Boingo> Is that which username/password it is expecting?
[05-Sep-2007 17:19:04] <deviousz> I just set up Zenoss, this is amazing
[05-Sep-2007 17:19:49] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: yes...
[05-Sep-2007 17:20:05] <Boingo> See... the docs didnt mention that.
[05-Sep-2007 17:20:16] <Boingo> I thought it was looking for a zenoss user.
[05-Sep-2007 17:21:03] <deviousz> I gave OpenNMS a try a short time ago, this is WAY easier to install
[05-Sep-2007 17:21:38] <MoreDakka_> Bulwinkle, I'm still having some issues trying to find the nagios plugin for the port monitoring we discussed earlier. Do you know what nagios command I can use?
[05-Sep-2007 17:22:52] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: where are your nagios scripts now?
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:04] <deviousz> Well, nice work!
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:11] <Bulwinkle> Boingo: yeah, the docs on that can be a bit lacking
[05-Sep-2007 17:23:41] <MoreDakka_> I just have the check_http plug in right now. Not even sure where to start for the port monitoring.
[05-Sep-2007 17:24:32] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: check the check_ifstatus and check_ifoperstatus
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:42] <MoreDakka_> sweet, I'm looking now. Thanks Bulwinkle!
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:47] <deviousz> So I've searched for this but haven't come up with anything, hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I'm looking to monitor HTTP & HTTPS URL's. I have installed HttpMonitor zenpack but not sure where to go from here.
[05-Sep-2007 17:25:49] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: NP
[05-Sep-2007 17:30:11] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: you can add the HTTP graphs to all of your servers you want to monitor HTTP on
[05-Sep-2007 17:31:50] <deviousz> So I can just add the server like I do with anything else? via devices?
[05-Sep-2007 17:33:39] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: yes
[05-Sep-2007 17:33:54] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: and after you do you can add the HTTP stuff in OS
[05-Sep-2007 17:36:16] <deviousz> Ok thx, doing that now
[05-Sep-2007 17:38:16] <deviousz> So, add an Interface?
[05-Sep-2007 17:50:38] <deviousz> Seems like I need to add an 'IP Service'?
[05-Sep-2007 17:51:10] <deviousz> What if I want to monitor multiple sites on a single IP?
[05-Sep-2007 18:07:53] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: aren't they all served by the same web server?
[05-Sep-2007 18:10:04] <deviousz> In this case yes. Its more of a theoretical question, like in the case where redundancy is provided by DNS, where there may be a few different IPs serving the same site w /the same URL
[05-Sep-2007 18:11:24] <deviousz> So thats how to do it right, add an IP service? Or add something else having to do w/ the HttpMonitor?
[05-Sep-2007 18:32:57] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: do you hav the server added?
[05-Sep-2007 18:52:58] <deviousz> yep
[05-Sep-2007 18:55:42] <Bulwinkle> deviousz: I'd suggest you add all of the webservers in to the same group and copy the servertype template to that group and edit it
[05-Sep-2007 19:15:39] <deviousz> Bulwinkle: should I create a new template?
[05-Sep-2007 19:15:50] <deviousz> (sorry if these are ignorant questions)
[05-Sep-2007 19:16:25] <Bulwinkle> I'd copy the base template from the type of server you're running your webserver (copy the /device/server/windows/device template if they are windows)
[05-Sep-2007 19:16:35] <Bulwinkle> copy that to the new group you create
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[06-Sep-2007 04:30:03] <jerojasro> Hi all. I'm testing zenoss, and checking what can it do. I've installed Net-SNMP on a linux box, and I'm getting info for stuff like the network interfaces usage, system version and the like
[06-Sep-2007 04:30:26] <jerojasro> but I'm not seeing any info. about CPU consumption, system load, disk space or similar stuffs
[06-Sep-2007 04:31:04] <jerojasro> the SNMP server on the linux box has been up since, say, 12 hours or more
[06-Sep-2007 04:31:36] <jerojasro> am I missing some config. stuff? on the zenoss installation? on the SNMP server?
[06-Sep-2007 04:32:04] <jerojasro> thanks in advance for your help
[06-Sep-2007 04:32:17] <jerojasro> (maillist-like signature :D )
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[06-Sep-2007 12:00:29] <kippi> hey
[06-Sep-2007 12:00:59] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 13:11:38] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 13:34:51] <pablo26> hi all
[06-Sep-2007 13:36:15] <pablo26> i want to create groups of users, for example i create an alerting rule and i want it to be apliead to more than one peple, is that possible?
[06-Sep-2007 13:54:39] <BrianJones> I have a question about setting up APC devices
[06-Sep-2007 13:56:52] <monrad> BrianJones: i have one of those
[06-Sep-2007 13:57:11] <monrad> bzed: i saw some checkins at cia.vc :)
[06-Sep-2007 14:01:17] <BrianJones> I have... about 10 and would like to monitor them (temps, power, etc)
[06-Sep-2007 14:01:41] <BrianJones> but it looks like the apc monitoring is pretty limited out of the box.
[06-Sep-2007 14:02:20] <BrianJones> I am looking for any help obtaining the correct MIBs and integrating them into zenoss
[06-Sep-2007 14:03:21] <BrianJones> i have the Enterprise license... .but the IM support doesn' really help me much
[06-Sep-2007 14:03:43] <BrianJones> and email is WAY too slow
[06-Sep-2007 14:04:03] <BrianJones> ..... and I don't like sitting on the phone
[06-Sep-2007 14:08:21] <BrianJones> any help?
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:07] <monrad> hmm i only had one i for now the default template is good enough for our use
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:22] <BrianJones> there is a default template?
[06-Sep-2007 14:10:43] <BrianJones> all I get when I add the device is... device name, version, and address
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:02] <BrianJones> no information about the operating specs
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:08] <monrad> you have to move the device to the right place in the device tree
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:26] <BrianJones> i would assume that is the "power/apc"
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:36] <monrad> yes
[06-Sep-2007 14:11:56] <BrianJones> or... power/ups/apc
[06-Sep-2007 14:12:05] <BrianJones> yeah... thats where it is
[06-Sep-2007 14:12:59] <BrianJones> what selection should i use for the hardware manuf/product in the add device
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:10] <BrianJones> all it lists for apc is 3 oid's
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:27] <BrianJones> .. .or 4 oid's
[06-Sep-2007 14:13:53] <BrianJones> ending in .10, .12, .13, .7
[06-Sep-2007 14:16:36] <BrianJones> we have 5 rack PDU's... 1 20KvA battery unit, 1 enviro monitor, and the intrustructure manager
[06-Sep-2007 14:16:58] <BrianJones> and 2 more PDU's coming
[06-Sep-2007 14:18:00] <bzed> monrad: yeah, I've poked the developers about some copyright issues and stated to get the packaging done for zenoss 2.1
[06-Sep-2007 14:18:34] <bzed> zenoss 2.2 will use zope2.10, I'm not 100% sure how we're going to handle a migration, I guess there'll be a manual way to do so
[06-Sep-2007 14:19:32] <BrianJones> what should I be looking for to get the correct MIB's from APC?
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:00] <monrad> i have only played around with an APC ups dont know anything about the other stuff
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:05] <monrad> bzed: nice
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:13] <BrianJones> hmm...
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:22] <monrad> 2.1 is like a few months away hopefuly
[06-Sep-2007 14:21:33] <BrianJones> well.. thanks for the help anyway
[06-Sep-2007 14:22:24] <BrianJones> how come nobody is ever on the IM support?? ... That is what we paid for after all
[06-Sep-2007 14:23:03] <BrianJones> I got help the first week after joined and nothing since
[06-Sep-2007 14:24:11] <monrad> we have not bought any support, yet
[06-Sep-2007 14:24:44] <kippi> would there be any reason why zenoss isn't giving me Performance Graphs ?
[06-Sep-2007 14:27:05] <BrianJones> Well... word of advice... make sure you figure out about 50% of the stuff you are trying to monitor before getting support
[06-Sep-2007 14:27:53] <BrianJones> we jumped in support first... and I am still using the free support items to resolve issues
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:25] <BrianJones> because email takes up to 24 hours to respond... and IM is never there
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:27] <monrad> we have a setup with around 1000 units it works pretty ok
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:36] <monrad> only some performance problems
[06-Sep-2007 14:28:49] <BrianJones> what hardware are you running on?
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:19] <BrianJones> i noticed HUGE perf issues running on out solars/ubuntu box
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:39] <monrad> an HP DL380-G3 with 2 3 ghz cpus and 2 gb ram with an SAN as backstorage for the rrd files
[06-Sep-2007 14:29:58] <BrianJones> ... hmm sounds close to ours
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:27] <BrianJones> cept ours is running in a vmware esx enviro
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:42] <BrianJones> ... i would suggest more ram tho
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:54] <monrad> we are think of moving it to a G4 so we have 64 bit cpus
[06-Sep-2007 14:30:58] <monrad> with more ram
[06-Sep-2007 14:31:40] <BrianJones> from what I understand the query data is all cached in ram before writing to disk
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:15] <BrianJones> and if you have less ram than the data polled from devices it will slow down
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:21] <monrad> well rrdtool is quite good to trash the diskcache
[06-Sep-2007 14:32:58] <monrad> in the new, not released, rrdtools they use MMAP to increase performance
[06-Sep-2007 14:33:21] <BrianJones> especially if you are polling 1000 devices... thats a LOT of snmp data
[06-Sep-2007 14:33:56] <BrianJones> cause it polls ALL the snmp query info... then extracts the data it needs
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:17] <monrad> i am pretty sure it just ask for the right OIDs
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:44] <monrad> because an snmpwalk of oure core routers takes longer than 30 mins
[06-Sep-2007 14:34:53] <BrianJones> well.. .four our switches it pulls all the oid info even for null and unused ports
[06-Sep-2007 14:35:51] <BrianJones> and if you are running multiple vlans, etc. i could take even longer
[06-Sep-2007 14:35:55] <BrianJones> it*
[06-Sep-2007 14:36:44] <BrianJones> i believe our server is running 2 quad core xeon's with 32 gb of ram
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:25] <BrianJones> ... oddly enough I am only running the 32bit redhat distro
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:33] <BrianJones> and they are 64bit cpu's
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:47] <monrad> i only have problems when it starts reading from the SAN
[06-Sep-2007 14:37:48] <bzed> try debian when I'm done :P
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:05] <monrad> bzed: it dont think you get enterprise support with debian :)
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:20] <BrianJones> ... yeah thats why we bought redhat
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:32] <monrad> if the cache is just right a poll takes around 20 secs
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:39] <monrad> if not around 250-400
[06-Sep-2007 14:38:59] <BrianJones> got any extra ram lying arround?
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:02] <monrad> and its the reads thats kills it
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:18] <BrianJones> you running fiber to the san?
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:31] <monrad> well only to G4's thats one of the reasons to move it one of that kind
[06-Sep-2007 14:39:32] <monrad> yes
[06-Sep-2007 14:40:18] <BrianJones> yeah... our san has yet to cause a problem with over 20 virtual machines
[06-Sep-2007 14:40:39] <BrianJones> including 2 large db servers
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:10] <monrad> if it was be i would prefere to use maybe som coraid boxes with AoE
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:11] <BrianJones> running 2gig fiber to all
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:33] <monrad> quite a bit cheaper than oure HP EVA SAN
[06-Sep-2007 14:41:52] <BrianJones> yeah... ours cost more than the 3 servers
[06-Sep-2007 14:42:12] <BrianJones> but its up to about 10TB now
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:07] <bzed> monrad: I have to talk with them about that, they're all big debian fans, so I guess that could happen
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:43] <monrad> bzed: well right now we think enterprise is a bit too pricy for us :)
[06-Sep-2007 14:44:56] <monrad> i would rather have they increase my salary :)
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:01] <BrianJones> for 1000 units... uh, yeah
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:03] <bzed> probably not before 2.2 though, I've thrown a number of tickets to them to get rid of this stupid ZENHOME environment variable
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:07] <bzed> monrad: ^
[06-Sep-2007 14:45:23] <creiht> bzed: You rock! :)
[06-Sep-2007 14:47:16] <monrad> nice
[06-Sep-2007 16:25:53] <Stuttergar> I'm working with the auto-discovery feature. It would be really great if that process was able to inventory hardware. For instance, CPU clockspeed, RAID controllers, and such.
[06-Sep-2007 16:26:00] <Stuttergar> It doesn't seem to be working out of the box
[06-Sep-2007 16:26:03] <Stuttergar> is there some trick?
[06-Sep-2007 16:44:42] <Stuttergar> ah
[06-Sep-2007 16:44:44] <Stuttergar> nevermind
[06-Sep-2007 16:45:00] <Stuttergar> assigning them to the Server/Linux class kicked things into gear.
[06-Sep-2007 16:45:05] <Stuttergar> I must have overlooked that in the docs.
[06-Sep-2007 17:02:13] <Mazzaradi> anybody there
[06-Sep-2007 17:03:24] <Mazzaradi> CPU utlization is not shown for linux machines
[06-Sep-2007 17:03:30] <Mazzaradi> anybody pls help
[06-Sep-2007 17:07:34] <Mazzaradi> ????? pls pls .... new to zenoss
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[06-Sep-2007 17:32:08] <Mazzaradi> zenoss installed on FC6
[06-Sep-2007 18:05:26] <dextius> hello, looking to switch to zenoss, from nagios... I'd like to use SNMP to monitor important processes, but I can't find out how to alter the polling frequency, is this possible?
[06-Sep-2007 18:14:15] <dextius> is there any documentation available for zenprocess? I can't seem to find anything on any of the wiki's, google, except for some little bits in the forums :(
[06-Sep-2007 18:41:36] <Bulwinkle> dextius: which frequency are you trying to change?
[06-Sep-2007 18:41:47] <dextius> well.. I'm not sure
[06-Sep-2007 18:42:22] <dextius> in Nagios, we have specific processes we monitor via ssh..
[06-Sep-2007 18:42:59] <dextius> each machine has a load out of what processes will be running that day.. (including what the notification periods and whatnot)
[06-Sep-2007 18:43:34] <Bulwinkle> dextius: what a complete pain in the ass :)
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:26] <dextius> I agree, but things tend to grow here.. and we have to move things around..
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:30] <dextius> ok..
[06-Sep-2007 18:44:57] <dextius> what if a process fails to start in the morning? Zenoss doesn't seem to have the ability to bind a specific process to a host?
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:06] <Bulwinkle> so, you want to monitor a certain process on a given server for a specific time of day?
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:15] <dextius> yes, and via snmp if possible..
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:27] <Bulwinkle> dextius: I don't think Zenoss can do that
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:42] <dextius> that's what it felt like.
[06-Sep-2007 18:45:45] <dextius> last question..
[06-Sep-2007 18:46:11] <dextius> I keep reading about a Nagios import process for zenoss, but can't find anything concrete, does it exist?
[06-Sep-2007 18:46:51] <Bulwinkle> dextius: I have written my own script, wish I could have found such an import process
[06-Sep-2007 18:47:36] <dextius> heh, yeah, I could probably do the same, if I knew the target ;-) ...
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:22] <dextius> ugh, I'd really like to stop using Nagios, we have SO many processes to watch, and it checks them ONE at a time via ssh.. very painful
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:25] <Bulwinkle> I can give you some help on that....
[06-Sep-2007 18:48:31] <Bulwinkle> one sec
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:09] <dextius> nah, that's ok.. it's basically the configuration I described earlier (specific processes on specific hosts, monitored at specific parts of the day)
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:52] <Bulwinkle> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/add-device/
[06-Sep-2007 18:49:55] <Bulwinkle> Look at that
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Add Device - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:38] <dextius> ooh, I love xmlrpc
[06-Sep-2007 18:50:54] <Bulwinkle> I've got to warn you, as of late IMHO ZenOSS hasn't been very stable from day to day... Its a beautiful thing when it works.
[06-Sep-2007 18:51:30] <dextius> uh oh, can't do that.. working in the financial market.. they get a little annoyed when we're blind..
[06-Sep-2007 18:51:48] <Bulwinkle> Once you get it working, don't touch it and you should be fine... by god of all gods don't upgrade it. Who know what the hell has changed from one release to the next.
[06-Sep-2007 18:52:12] <dextius> haha.. I tried that with Nagios once.. didn't go so well..
[06-Sep-2007 18:52:31] <dextius> ended up just building a new system with the new version, and ported our configuration by hand..
[06-Sep-2007 18:53:07] <Bulwinkle> I've been running Nagios for too many years to count and have never had as much trouble with it as I have with ZenOSS...
[06-Sep-2007 18:54:16] <dextius> yikes! ok, I think you've convinced me to stick with Nagios.. (too bad!)
[06-Sep-2007 19:15:50] <dextius> hey, thanks for your help with this.. I'm glad I got to talk with someone who's used it before I sunk another couple of days fighting with this thing..
[06-Sep-2007 19:58:13] <MoreDakka_> anyone here good at bash scripting/
[06-Sep-2007 20:00:36] <MoreDakka_> Well I'll post it anyways and see if someone can help me out.
[06-Sep-2007 20:02:24] <MoreDakka_> I'm looking to echo a variable into another variable then later in the script send that variable to an email message and to a file but I don't want to write the file while the variable is being created. I've tried echo $VAR1 >>$VAR2 and that gives me "ambiguous redirect ". help?
[06-Sep-2007 20:06:08] <MoreDakka_> I guess it doesn't even have to be variable to variable but ech "foo" >> $VAR1
[06-Sep-2007 20:06:13] <MoreDakka_> echo
[06-Sep-2007 20:14:51] <Bulwinkle> MoreDakka_: try #BASH
[06-Sep-2007 20:17:35] <MoreDakka_> Yeah, that's where I am now....just thought someone here might have an idea on it (smrt peoples here.)
[06-Sep-2007 20:20:38] <kippi> hey
[06-Sep-2007 20:20:57] <kippi> has anyone got the bandwith graphs working with an netscreen?
[06-Sep-2007 20:22:32] <kgoedtel> why are you trying to echo a variable?
[06-Sep-2007 20:23:00] <kgoedtel> VAR2=$VAR1
[06-Sep-2007 20:44:18] <kippi> how easy is it to install new mibs?
[06-Sep-2007 21:44:27] <kraut75>
[06-Sep-2007 21:44:46] <kraut75> what's the upgrade procedure for an existing "from source" install?
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[06-Sep-2007 22:11:35] <kippi> has anyone got port stats working with an extreme switch?
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[07-Sep-2007 00:18:36] <fiXXXerMet> I am trying to follow http://howtoforge.com/zenoss_network_monitor_ubuntu and need help at step 12.
[07-Sep-2007 00:18:50] <adytum-bot> Title: Installing Zenoss Network Monitor on a Ubuntu Server | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials (at howtoforge.com)
[07-Sep-2007 00:18:51] <fiXXXerMet> adduser zenoss doesn't create a home directory, so where do I modify/edit .bashrc?
[07-Sep-2007 00:27:32] <fiXXXerMet> nevermind
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[07-Sep-2007 13:01:09] <pablo26> hi all
[07-Sep-2007 13:02:33] <pablo26> is any way to create user groups, for example to all the members of agroup give the same alerting rules
[07-Sep-2007 13:05:21] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: not yet
[07-Sep-2007 13:09:35] <pablo26> ok. i can wait
[07-Sep-2007 15:05:14] <kippi> has anyone got port stats working with an juniper firewall?
[07-Sep-2007 15:06:49] <pablo26> i've got port stats but in another firewall
[07-Sep-2007 15:08:16] <kippi> how did you get them to work?
[07-Sep-2007 15:08:46] <pablo26> i downloaded the mib to see wich values i had to read to get that info
[07-Sep-2007 15:09:55] <kippi> did you just install the mib and it work? or did you have to put the values in somewhere else?
[07-Sep-2007 15:10:24] <pablo26> i dindt install it i just use it to see them in my computer
[07-Sep-2007 15:10:44] <pablo26> and then i create a new template with the values as data sources
[07-Sep-2007 15:11:11] <kippi> ah ha
[07-Sep-2007 15:37:42] <kippi> pablo26: where did you find the mib?
[07-Sep-2007 15:38:44] <pablo26> on the manofacturer page
[07-Sep-2007 15:43:00] <pablo26> i have to register to be able to use pm kippi
[07-Sep-2007 15:49:59] <kraut75> interesting, so you have to build your own performance templates for that kind of stuff
[07-Sep-2007 15:50:30] <kraut75> I've got a bunch of oids from the cisco firewall mib that I want to monitor for my pixs
[07-Sep-2007 15:50:50] <kippi> can anyone see bandwidth information on here http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos80/swconfig80-net-mgmt/html/enterprise-traps2.html#1096236
[07-Sep-2007 15:51:05] <adytum-bot> Title: Juniper Networks Enterprise-Specific SNMP Version 1 Traps (at www.juniper.net)
[07-Sep-2007 15:51:24] <kraut75> not traps
[07-Sep-2007 15:52:06] <kippi> what am i looking for then?
[07-Sep-2007 15:52:27] <kraut75> kippi: does juniper have an mib browser?
[07-Sep-2007 15:53:14] <kippi> just looking
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:07] <kippi> will that help me find what i am looking for?
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:29] <kraut75> I'm not sure if the netscreens actually support interface statistics via snmp
[07-Sep-2007 15:54:43] <kraut75> for some reason I recall it not being an option, but I could be wron.g
[07-Sep-2007 15:55:47] <kippi> damm
[07-Sep-2007 15:57:12] <kraut75> check this out http://www.snmplink.org/src/MIB.html
[07-Sep-2007 15:57:21] <adytum-bot> Title: www.SNMPLink.org - Enterprises & MIBs links (at www.snmplink.org)
[07-Sep-2007 15:59:21] <kippi> thanks, i will have a read and see what i can get, as i also have the same problems on the extreme kit
[07-Sep-2007 16:00:00] <kraut75> looks like nsIfFlowTable has all of the information you need
[07-Sep-2007 16:00:49] <kippi> now to get that working with zenoss
[07-Sep-2007 16:01:08] <kraut75> right...
[07-Sep-2007 16:25:55] <kraut75> has anyone ever played around with something similar to thresholds, but rather than using a percentage of the maximum linespeed used a sliding window to detect spikes? Let's say for example an alert raised if link utilization suddenly jumps by 50%
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[07-Sep-2007 18:00:09] <fiXXXerMet> I have zenoss installed and running and I went to add a device. After hitting the "Add Device" button, I'm redirected to a DeviceLoader page that says Status, but my device is never added.
[07-Sep-2007 18:00:31] <fiXXXerMet> There are 5 or 6 MySQL tables and none of them have anything about that device.
[07-Sep-2007 18:06:25] <pablo26> if snmp is not available for that device, it wont add it unless u change the discovery method from snmp to none
[07-Sep-2007 18:07:51] <fiXXXerMet> let me double check - thanks
[07-Sep-2007 18:47:49] <fiXXXerMet> pablo26: Nope, SNMP is installed on the server (Windows 2003).
[07-Sep-2007 18:48:04] <fiXXXerMet> At least I think so - It's added in the Windows Components thingy
[07-Sep-2007 18:49:18] <fiXXXerMet> Adding it as None works, but as SNMP doesn't.
[07-Sep-2007 18:49:26] <fiXXXerMet> but --
[07-Sep-2007 18:50:06] <pablo26> to check if snmp is working i use a little windows program or u can use snmpwalk , there are a lot of examples on the documentation
[07-Sep-2007 18:50:19] <fiXXXerMet> I've started to read but there is a lot
[07-Sep-2007 18:51:48] <fiXXXerMet> brb to bug you some more.
[07-Sep-2007 19:07:18] <kippi> i need to add ifSpeed so that I can get juniper stats, how can i link this in to the graphs?
[07-Sep-2007 19:08:41] <pablo26> u have to do several steps but they are easy go to the device class u want to add a template (/network/router/juniper)
[07-Sep-2007 19:10:04] <pablo26> there u add data sources, create one called ifSpeed and insert the OID in the other filed
[07-Sep-2007 19:10:30] <pablo26> once u have a data source u can create a threshold and a graph using that source
[07-Sep-2007 19:29:32] <fiXXXerMet> So I need another program - ZenWin - to get the Windows server stats
[07-Sep-2007 19:41:32] <kippi> ok, i think i have added ifSpeed, how do i add it to my router?
[07-Sep-2007 19:48:59] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: Or if you install the SNMPInofmant plugin, it can pull windows stats through snmp
[07-Sep-2007 20:02:00] * fiXXXerMet looks!
[07-Sep-2007 20:02:24] <kippi> I have created a performance template under /Devices/Network/Router/Junpier but my devices dosn't seem to be picking it up
[07-Sep-2007 20:03:07] <fiXXXerMet> creiht: http://www.snmp-informant.com/ ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:03:14] <adytum-bot> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
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[07-Sep-2007 20:05:52] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: yes
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:11] <fiXXXerMet> Our dell servers, for example, have OpenManage, which monitors the hard drives (arrays, etc) and such. Could I also get that information?
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:26] <creiht> fiXXXerMet: You can, but it will take a little more leg work
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:32] <fiXXXerMet> Figured.
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:40] <creiht> You will have to set up a monitoring template for it
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:42] <fiXXXerMet> I've been using Zenoss / snmp for about 2 hours so I'm kind of a noob
[07-Sep-2007 20:06:50] <creiht> We all were once :)
[07-Sep-2007 20:07:27] <creiht> We have a similar situation where I would like to monitor the OpenManage stuff, but just haven't had time to look at it closer
[07-Sep-2007 20:07:58] <fiXXXerMet> That is actually the primary reason my boss wanted me to setup a snmp monitor service
[07-Sep-2007 20:08:21] <Bulwinkle> If anyone is having problems with their Catalyst switch interface names not showing up properly I think I have a fix...
[07-Sep-2007 20:34:10] <kippi> ok, added mt graph, but its not drawing, anyideas?
[07-Sep-2007 20:34:12] <kraut75> ack, what do I have to do to get zenoss to poll 64bit counters for my interfaces
[07-Sep-2007 20:35:56] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: make sure you are using v2c in zProperties for all of the devices and change the OIDs
[07-Sep-2007 20:36:54] <kraut75> change the OIDs where?
[07-Sep-2007 20:37:22] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: there already is a ethernetCsmacd_64 template, can I just rename it to ethernetCsmacd?
[07-Sep-2007 20:37:32] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: yessir
[07-Sep-2007 20:38:52] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: hmm, so if I have a mixed environment I'm out of luck?
[07-Sep-2007 20:39:23] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: just put all of your snmp v1 in a different group and change the template there...
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:01] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: group or class?
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:18] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: sorry class
[07-Sep-2007 20:40:30] <fiXXXerMet> i'm so lost.
[07-Sep-2007 20:41:04] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: whats the problem?
[07-Sep-2007 20:41:40] <m11> hello
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:00] <Bulwinkle> hi m11
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:08] <m11> hi bulwinkle
[07-Sep-2007 20:42:35] <m11> i installed zenoss but it seems i cant access it
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:18] <m11> shouldnt it be under localhost/zenoss ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:19] <Bulwinkle> m11: how are you trying to access it?
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:24] <m11> web
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:27] <fiXXXerMet> Bulwinkle: I just don't understand snmp and I'm confused. :)
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:34] <Bulwinkle> m11: no localhost:8080
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:45] <m11> ah :D
[07-Sep-2007 20:43:49] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: ah... can't help you there :)
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:04] <kippi> ok, added mt graph, but its not drawing, anyideas?
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:21] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: the one problem I see is that every single device inherents the base templates, so I can't just rename /Devices Standard ethernet interface template with 75% utilization threshold
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:24] <kippi> its not even drawing the white outline
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:25] <kraut75> oops
[07-Sep-2007 20:44:31] <kraut75> sorry about that
[07-Sep-2007 20:45:06] <kraut75> so I can't just rename ethernetCsmacd_64 because it will affect every class
[07-Sep-2007 20:46:10] <m11> ok , i got some error on connect, but now is working fine, many tnx bulwinkle , i go check it :)
[07-Sep-2007 20:47:27] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: put all of your devices you need to monitor with 64 bit counters in one class and change the template at that class
[07-Sep-2007 20:54:17] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: I guess I'm still a bit confused by the layout. when I look at the device template in /devices/network/router/cisco I see all of the performance templates from /devices already and modifying ethernetCsmacd is going to modify it for all of /devices
[07-Sep-2007 20:54:34] <kraut75> what am I missing
[07-Sep-2007 20:55:30] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: yes.... go to /devices and click the checkbox for ethernetCsmacs and the hit the pulldown above it and click copy to.... and copy it to /devices/network/router/cisco
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:19] <kraut75> Bulwinkle: doh... seems so simple now. Thanks for clarifying.
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:44] <Bulwinkle> kraut75: you'll learn your way around really quickly after a few months
[07-Sep-2007 20:56:51] <Bulwinkle> Have a great weekend all
[07-Sep-2007 20:57:53] <fiXXXerMet> Hey! I see a graph, though it is empty.
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:07] <m11> how can i add my router to list of devices ?
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:36] <kraut75> m11: version 2.x I take it?
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:41] <kraut75> fiXXXerMet: you're almost there
[07-Sep-2007 20:58:52] <kraut75> fiXXXerMet: it takes three passes for na to disappear
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:03] <kraut75> so in about 15 minutes you should have visible data
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:04] <m11> kraut75 yes
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:31] <m11> 2.0.5.0
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:47] <kraut75> m11: there are three ways that I am aware of. You could add the network your devices are on and do auto discovery. I'm not a big fan of autodiscovery so I went a different route
[07-Sep-2007 20:59:52] <kraut75> m11: I used zenbatchload
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:05] <kraut75> m11: syntax is zenbatchload -i <file name>
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:25] <kraut75> a simple flat text file with the hostnames of your routers or IP addresses will do.
[07-Sep-2007 21:00:59] <m11> hmm
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:08] <m11> i will try autodiscover 1st
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:27] <kraut75> m11: one more thing
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:31] <m11> yes?
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:34] <kraut75> m11: do you have full BGP tables?
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:44] <m11> sry m8, i just installed :/
[07-Sep-2007 21:01:52] <m11> freshmeat :)
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:02] <kraut75> autodiscovery was beating the crap out of my routers because of the Routemap collector
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:26] <kraut75> full tables with 200k plus routes being walked is no joke.
[07-Sep-2007 21:02:50] <kraut75> I removed it from the collectors because I didn't see value in it.
[07-Sep-2007 21:03:15] <kraut75> m11: also, make sure you add your snmp community string in zproperties if you are using something other then public or private
[07-Sep-2007 21:04:06] <m11> that is too far of my knowledge m8 :)
[07-Sep-2007 21:04:57] <m11> i see only option under managment add device
[07-Sep-2007 21:06:33] <m11> kraut75 , what should i add in snmp comunity ?
[07-Sep-2007 21:23:09] <kraut75> m11: your community if you have one set
[07-Sep-2007 21:23:15] <kraut75> community string rather
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[07-Sep-2007 22:29:29] <^KidUnix^> is anyone running zenoss on freebsd 6.2
[07-Sep-2007 22:29:30] <^KidUnix^> ?
[07-Sep-2007 23:10:19] <fiXXXerMet> Am I able to monior switches like the linksys EF3124 with zenoss?
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[09-Sep-2007 03:03:22] <fiXXXerMet> Any way to get snmp stats from a linksys router (EF3124) or my smoothwall box?
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[09-Sep-2007 04:04:23] <fiXXXerMet> OK, smoothwall doesn't have build in snmp but what about a switch that doesn't have an ip address?
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[10-Sep-2007 06:47:26] <_zack> hi all, how can I specify the version number in a zenpack?
[10-Sep-2007 06:47:45] <_zack> it seems to me that without doing anything zenoss assumes a zenpack is always version 0.1, isn't it?
[10-Sep-2007 12:21:56] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[10-Sep-2007 12:27:20] <fiXXXerMet> I <3 monitoring stuff.
[10-Sep-2007 12:39:11] <Robbadub> lo
[10-Sep-2007 12:55:58] <fiXXXerMet> Have any of you added a Sonicwall fiirewall to zenoss?
[10-Sep-2007 13:06:00] <fiXXXerMet> When I add the device (ip address) of the sonicwall, I get sent to the DeviceLoader page, but nothing shows up.
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:12] <Robbadub> hi
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:23] <Robbadub> Whazzup with th e sonic?
[10-Sep-2007 13:30:56] <Robbadub> Allow the zenos machine to monitor snmp on your sonic
[10-Sep-2007 13:31:44] <Robbadub> check this with the snmpwalk command from the moniroting system
[10-Sep-2007 13:32:33] <Robbadub> Do this with: snmpwalk -v1 -cpublic IPforsonic system
[10-Sep-2007 13:32:43] <Robbadub> -v1 is snmp version
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:02] <Robbadub> -c is cummunitystring (public if your community string is public)
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:21] <Robbadub> IPforsonic the IP for Sonic
[10-Sep-2007 13:33:29] <Robbadub> system = use stanrd system MIB
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:10] <Robbadub> Make sure the Sonic has your machine in de aloowed SNMP network mangers
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:18] <Robbadub> managers
[10-Sep-2007 13:34:27] <Robbadub> Pfftt.. my typo's are many 2day
[10-Sep-2007 13:52:27] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: let me try\
[10-Sep-2007 14:01:01] <xinity_mbp> i'm new to zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:01:21] <xinity_mbp> i was wondering if the enterprise version of zenoss has any oracle agents?
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:23] <Robbadub> Zenoss reads snmp
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:39] <Robbadub> snmp are messages and components in a MIB tree
[10-Sep-2007 14:03:53] <xinity_mbp> i know that Robbadub
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:07] <Robbadub> If you introduce the correct MIB's in zenos with zenmib
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:19] <Robbadub> zenoss can intepret the messages
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:23] <xinity_mbp> you mean zenoss can ONLY read snmp ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:46] <xinity_mbp> so what about the remote plugins ? what are they for ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:50] <Robbadub> no also it has ways of monitoring certain systems via ssha and telnet
[10-Sep-2007 14:04:57] <Robbadub> And windows boxes via WMI
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:19] <Robbadub> Too much to explain here . Read the admin guide
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:27] <Robbadub> I can't do the implementation for you
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:40] <xinity_mbp> that"s not what i was asking ;)
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:43] <Robbadub> lol
[10-Sep-2007 14:05:59] <xinity_mbp> i was just wondering if zenoss can monitor an oracle database
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:02] <xinity_mbp> that's all ;)
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:11] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/2636/md-2636-1.html
[10-Sep-2007 14:06:18] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Juniper Networks, Inc. (at www.oidview.com)
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:00] <Robbadub> All the MIB stating with OID's with 1.3.6.1.4.1.111 are for Oracle products
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:06] <Robbadub> starting
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:35] <Robbadub> http://www.oidview.com/mibs/111/md-111-1.html
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:35] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: OK, problem was that I didn't bind SNMP to the LAN interface, so it's work now :) Except I'm not getting many statistics? The Perf tab is empty
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:42] <adytum-bot> Title: ByteSphere MIB Download Area - Oracle (at www.oidview.com)
[10-Sep-2007 14:07:58] <Robbadub> The perf tab will need about half an hour to fill up with stats
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:08] <fiXXXerMet> Makes sense
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:11] <Robbadub> Patience my dear Watson
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:33] <Robbadub> Good luck and enjoy ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:08:59] <fiXXXerMet> Might I need to add more mibs or oids or whatever for more sonicwall stats?
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:08] <Robbadub> yes
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:11] <xinity_mbp> well well well let's have a deeper look at the admin guide ;)
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:46] <Robbadub> look for zenmib and don't 4get tu run it as zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:09:51] <Robbadub> su zenoss that is
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:25] <fiXXXerMet> okay
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:35] <Robbadub> upload mibs to folder in /blah/zenos/shared/mibs/site etc....
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:38] <Robbadub> then run zenoss
[10-Sep-2007 14:10:44] <Robbadub> sorry.. zenmib
[10-Sep-2007 14:14:06] <Robbadub> The Sonic doesn't seem to have specific MIB's so is probably covered with generic RFC MIB's
[10-Sep-2007 14:14:22] <Robbadub> Check the sonic docs
[10-Sep-2007 14:20:11] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: The SonicWALL security appliance supports SNMP v1/v2c and all relevant Management Information Base II (MIB) groups except egp and at.
[10-Sep-2007 14:20:14] <fiXXXerMet> Sound good?
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:02] <Robbadub> Yep
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:07] <fiXXXerMet> kewl
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:20] <Robbadub> So what do you see now in the device's status and OS screens?
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:46] <Robbadub> If not satisfied do a re-model of the device. ZenModel wil make a new model of the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:51] <fiXXXerMet> OS had all the Interfaces and 3 routes.
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:57] <Robbadub> excellent
[10-Sep-2007 14:21:58] <fiXXXerMet> Status has some info
[10-Sep-2007 14:22:11] <fiXXXerMet> OS Version, model, bu tnot serial, or any manufacturer
[10-Sep-2007 14:22:46] <Robbadub> ok. In the OS Screen uncheck the monitored box
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:04] <Robbadub> in IP services for instance
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:14] <Robbadub> Othewise you only see the monitored ports
[10-Sep-2007 14:23:42] <fiXXXerMet> The monitored box?
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <Robbadub> You can specify IP ports in the services classses settings that need to be alway monitored
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <Robbadub> The same goes for services
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:19] <Robbadub> yep
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:32] <Robbadub> if it's not there you can see everything
[10-Sep-2007 14:24:55] <Robbadub> But is acts as a filter to only show IP ports and services that need to be monitored
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:26] <fiXXXerMet> gosh I have a lot to learn
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:37] <Robbadub> It is a big implementation
[10-Sep-2007 14:25:50] <Robbadub> At the other hand. There is no need for a lot of other tools ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:27] <Robbadub> As soon as you understand the inherited settings through the paths it becomes obvious
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:56] <fiXXXerMet> Under hardware, Memory and CPUs is all blank as well
[10-Sep-2007 14:26:59] <Robbadub> tHE DEEPER YOU GO, THE MORE DETAILED YOU CAN SET PARAMETERS
[10-Sep-2007 14:27:03] <Robbadub> oops caps
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:17] <Robbadub> yes the same goes for my Netscreens
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:26] <xinity_mbp> just to be sure , the zenoss plugins rpms should be installed on monitored boxes right ?
[10-Sep-2007 14:28:43] <Robbadub> no
[10-Sep-2007 14:29:05] <Robbadub> The plugins should be installed on the zenoss server
[10-Sep-2007 14:29:39] <Robbadub> It uses the plugins as an extra method next tot snmp ans portscan to probe the devices and make a "model" of the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:30:30] <Robbadub> A device is modeled according to the probing methods you specify for the device class where you put the device
[10-Sep-2007 14:30:44] <Robbadub> See the device class you want on the tab zproperties
[10-Sep-2007 14:31:31] <fiXXXerMet> Cool :) I can see the throughput
[10-Sep-2007 14:31:59] <Robbadub> yes
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:25] <Robbadub> and you can define these graphs for any oid (gauge) you like
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:31] <xinity_mbp> my oh my seems to me that next stage after discovery is modeling
[10-Sep-2007 14:32:48] <Robbadub> indeed
[10-Sep-2007 14:33:39] <Robbadub> So first discover. The dicovered devices are puyt in a class called discovered. Then you move them to their definitive class where you have made settings for the way you want them modeled.
[10-Sep-2007 14:34:17] <Robbadub> For instance... switcheds in the trusted zone are modeled thru snmp and maybe telnet. In untrust zone you can use ssh only :-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:36:37] <Robbadub> For switches be sure you added the zenoss.snmp.InterFaceAliasMap plugin in the zproperties
[10-Sep-2007 14:37:07] <Robbadub> his way you can more easily identify the the interfaces in switches and (who knows) firewalls
[10-Sep-2007 14:37:29] <Robbadub> Zenoss 2.0.5. has improved interface descriptions with IP. But I havent checked that out yet
[10-Sep-2007 14:38:07] <Robbadub> I'm running production too.. although with Zenoss my grip on the situation has drastically improved
[10-Sep-2007 14:38:20] <Robbadub> So all is nice and quiet here ;-)
[10-Sep-2007 14:49:25] <xinity_mbp> Robbadub: you rocks , thanks a lot ;)
[10-Sep-2007 14:54:04] <Robbadub> Np m8t
[10-Sep-2007 15:08:40] <xinity_mbp> WoW !!! amazing !!!
[10-Sep-2007 15:09:54] <Robbadub> What? My wife?
[10-Sep-2007 15:10:04] <Robbadub> Yeah sure ...
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:21] <Robbadub> Has anyone come up with a way to maintain the SQL server a bit
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:21] <xinity_mbp> lol no Zenoss ;)
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:25] <xinity_mbp> :D
[10-Sep-2007 15:11:33] <Robbadub> My History table grows and grows
[10-Sep-2007 15:12:12] <Robbadub> Yeah I'm glad you like it. I have been using Compaq Insight Management and stuff like that but his is way better
[10-Sep-2007 15:13:22] <Robbadub> Also i'm now working with Dell systems, virtualising on Xen.
[10-Sep-2007 15:13:57] <Robbadub> The Xen Host can be equipped with the Dell Openmange software and If you load the MIB's you can see the entire Xen Server
[10-Sep-2007 15:14:24] <Robbadub> Buth Zenoss support for the Xen guests is not so good yet. Does anyone know what to expect?
[10-Sep-2007 15:15:43] <fiXXXerMet> Robbadub: !!
[10-Sep-2007 15:16:02] <fiXXXerMet> I have a number of Dell servers with OpenManage that I'd really like to add to zenoss and you seem to know how ;)
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[10-Sep-2007 15:42:16] <fiXXXerMet> wtb Robbadub
[10-Sep-2007 15:52:41] <fiXXXerMet> Heading out for sushi - will bother you later.
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[10-Sep-2007 16:09:30] <xinity_mbp> ok i've added some new collector plugins to classes
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[10-Sep-2007 17:00:26] <fiXXXerMet> I just installed snmp-informant and I am confused. Is it a program or service that runs in windows?
[10-Sep-2007 17:03:13] <pablo26> hi all
[10-Sep-2007 17:03:45] <pablo26> how do i monitor a webpage?
[10-Sep-2007 17:06:45] <fiXXXerMet> brb
[10-Sep-2007 17:27:23] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: do you have the HTTP Monitor plugin installed?
[10-Sep-2007 17:28:45] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone here familiar with SNMP Informant?
[10-Sep-2007 17:28:56] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: what do you need to know
[10-Sep-2007 17:30:15] <fiXXXerMet> Bulwinkle: Well I installed it on my windows server but I don't see any programs or services running.
[10-Sep-2007 17:30:22] <fiXXXerMet> Or am I misunderstanding it entirely?
[10-Sep-2007 17:32:11] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: to the best of my knowledge it provides an interface between then SNMP service that windows installs. It provides more OIDs to poll. Make sense?
[10-Sep-2007 17:33:28] <fiXXXerMet> Kind of. I have been told that I need that program installed in order to allow zenoss to monitor the server?
[10-Sep-2007 17:33:55] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: if you want to be able to monitor SNMP on WIndows you need it installed
[10-Sep-2007 17:34:33] <fiXXXerMet> I have installed it
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:05] <fiXXXerMet> From Add or Remove Programs
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:18] <fiXXXerMet> But when I try to add the server to my zenoss box, nothing happens
[10-Sep-2007 17:35:32] <pablo26> yes Bulwinkle, but i dont know how to use it :(
[10-Sep-2007 17:36:48] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: I suggest you put all of your servers you want to monitor in the same group and add the http monitor to the template for that group
[10-Sep-2007 17:41:48] <pablo26> can i do a do a query and search for something in the result?
[10-Sep-2007 18:15:01] <chris_d> If I have an NFS server that's exporting filesystems to a bunch of other servers, how can I monitor the file system *just* on the NFS server and not on the servers that are mounting the exports?
[10-Sep-2007 18:45:05] <Bulwinkle> pablo26: That script does not do that
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[10-Sep-2007 20:26:28] <^KidUnix^> hello all
[10-Sep-2007 20:26:35] <^KidUnix^> anybody running zenoss on freebsd?
[10-Sep-2007 20:26:38] <^KidUnix^> 6.2
[10-Sep-2007 20:27:21] <^KidUnix^> anybody alive?
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[11-Sep-2007 00:23:16] <NolanG> Does anyone know how to upgrade the Zenoss 2.0.4 VM to 2.0.5?
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[11-Sep-2007 06:32:40] <chowmeined> why does this happen? Every time I try out zenoss, I get it setup and then it explodes into a huge mess of false positives and starts throwing up events for hundreds of devices?
[11-Sep-2007 08:47:54] <xinity_mbp> hy guys
[11-Sep-2007 08:49:44] <xinity_mbp> anyone knows why after changing the zsnmpcommynity in zproperties deviceclasse i've made, when i try a run command : snmpwalk , it still uses the public community ?
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[11-Sep-2007 09:24:38] <xinity_mbp> nobody knows ? :(
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[11-Sep-2007 11:46:01] <xinity_mbp> anybody here?
[11-Sep-2007 11:47:43] <xinity_mbp> what does exactly location groups are for ?
[11-Sep-2007 13:12:41] <drynish> Hello All
[11-Sep-2007 13:13:09] <drynish> Is there a way to gather the data more often than 5 minutes? I would like to gather it at each minute
[11-Sep-2007 13:13:41] <drynish> I changed the SNMP Performance Cycle Interval to 60 secs but the graphs are still slow to be updatede
[11-Sep-2007 13:14:46] <drynish> The reason why we're doing that way is that we want to collect some data at the client's house and our tech should not wait 5 minutes there waiting for the first update
[11-Sep-2007 13:14:59] <drynish> We want it right away appearing (or at least) not 5 minutes later ;)
[11-Sep-2007 13:29:44] <b52laptop> i'm wondering if we can do real time monitoring :)?
[11-Sep-2007 13:29:57] <b52laptop> or i am askin g for too much :d
[11-Sep-2007 13:34:21] <b52laptop> ok the question was stupid :D
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:43] <drynish> I'm asking for 1 minute
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:50] <drynish> not real time
[11-Sep-2007 13:37:52] <drynish> ;)
[11-Sep-2007 13:40:30] <b52laptop> ok boss :)
[11-Sep-2007 13:46:40] <drynish> :)
[11-Sep-2007 13:46:50] <drynish> Do you know a better way of doing real time monitoring? :)
[11-Sep-2007 13:47:11] <b52laptop> no sorry :d
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[11-Sep-2007 14:21:31] <hspcd> Howdy fellow Zenoss lovers!
[11-Sep-2007 14:21:47] <xinity_mbp> hy hspcd
[11-Sep-2007 14:22:45] <hspcd> Boy, the releases have been streaming out lately. Does anyone have any success or horror stories about upgrading from 2.0.3 to the newer revs that they would share? I am not sure I need/want to upgrade at this point.
[11-Sep-2007 14:23:10] <xinity_mbp> i did hspcd and it goes flowlessly ;)
[11-Sep-2007 14:23:37] <hspcd> xinity_mbp: from what release to what release?
[11-Sep-2007 14:24:04] <xinity_mbp> i have some errors while discovering my networks , but i'll wait for the discover to end and take a closer look at the errors
[11-Sep-2007 14:24:12] <xinity_mbp> hspcd: from 2.0.4 to 2.0.6
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:07] <hspcd> xinity_mbp: so skipping a release or two is no problem... I guess you just did an rpm -Uvh?
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:19] <xinity_mbp> right ;)
[11-Sep-2007 14:25:49] <hspcd> what about backing up my current environment first? I'd like to get that done before upgrading. Any tips on this?
[11-Sep-2007 14:26:52] <xinity_mbp> backup your mysql DB and the zenoss directory and then try to upgrade
[11-Sep-2007 15:25:14] <fiXXXerMet> If I installed snmp-informant on a windows box, do I need to install anything extra (mibs whatever) on the zenoss box/
[11-Sep-2007 15:25:15] <fiXXXerMet> ?
[11-Sep-2007 15:49:52] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: nope
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[11-Sep-2007 18:28:49] <_keturn> anyone heard things about ubuntu packages lately? I check in on the zenoss-packaging list on alioth from time to time, but it's been quiet lately.
[11-Sep-2007 19:44:38] <fiXXXerMet> Could anyone explain rights to me? Where/when should I use read, write and/or create?
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[11-Sep-2007 22:54:35] <oakleeman> who's awake?
[11-Sep-2007 23:10:49] <johns55> hi guys, has anyone seen this compile error before?
[11-Sep-2007 23:10:59] <johns55> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
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[11-Sep-2007 23:43:57] <Verilium> Do you have mysql installed?
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[12-Sep-2007 01:04:28] <chowmeined> drynish: real time monitoring would need an agent to work properly
[12-Sep-2007 02:43:59] <Trentster> hey all, could someone reccomend best practice when updating from 2.04 to 2.06 on centos 5, is there a recommended procedure to follow?
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[12-Sep-2007 04:15:57] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Merging New trunk Features to a Development Branch - 04 Sep, 03:04PM
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[12-Sep-2007 05:26:57] <newbie1> Hello
[12-Sep-2007 05:42:55] <newbie1> Hello everybody
[12-Sep-2007 05:43:04] <newbie1> zenoss supports corba?
[12-Sep-2007 05:46:45] <Trentster> hey all, could someone reccomend best practice when updating from 2.04 to 2.06 on centos 5, is there a recommended procedure to follow?
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[12-Sep-2007 07:12:01] <saint> anybody around w/ much experience when it comes to alerting and escalation?
[12-Sep-2007 14:36:47] <GutterPunk> Hi. What would be the best choice of distro to install ZenOss on in a corporate environment. I'm used to doing everything with Debian, but in this case this seems to make things a bit more complicated. I'd like to have the system up to date without having ZenOss break, But I need a default kernel later than .20 because of my raid controller...
[12-Sep-2007 14:37:15] <GutterPunk> I tried Centos of course, with the same controller issues
[12-Sep-2007 14:41:59] <Bulwinkle> GutterPunk: I've written howtos for openSUSE and Fedora Core 6... Try opensuse 10.3 beta 3
[12-Sep-2007 14:47:29] <GutterPunk> Bulwinkle: this is a production environment... On the other hand of course, it won't do much more than some monitoring...
[12-Sep-2007 14:49:07] <GutterPunk> I usually refrain from using distros that get a new version revision every year without bothering about security updates for older versions.
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[12-Sep-2007 18:26:20] <johns55> hello all, i recieve this error when compiling from source, does anybody have an idea?
[12-Sep-2007 18:26:25] <johns55> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r"
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:14] <shakeSpear> hi
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:42] <shakeSpear> hi - would like to change the cycletime of the zenmodeler in ../etc/zenmodeler.conf
[12-Sep-2007 19:23:50] <shakeSpear> what's the correct syntax?
[12-Sep-2007 19:45:10] <monrad> anyone running zenoss on 64 bit?
[12-Sep-2007 19:56:47] <davemoore> Hello
[12-Sep-2007 19:57:35] <davemoore> I'm having an issue getting zenoss installed. I am getting a "database conflict" error and am not sure how to resolve it.
[12-Sep-2007 20:07:13] <davemoore> anyone around?
[12-Sep-2007 20:17:55] <indigo423> hi at all
[12-Sep-2007 20:17:59] <davemoore> hey hey
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:13] <indigo423> is here anyone with some experience with winexe for linux ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:27] <davemoore> not I and it seems pretty dead in here at the moment
[12-Sep-2007 20:18:40] <indigo423> ohh ;) too late
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:03] <davemoore> Yep, trying to get zenoss going and hitting a wall, i suck at linux :D
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:20] <indigo423> 10:19pm at my time ;)
[12-Sep-2007 20:19:28] <davemoore> only 3 here
[12-Sep-2007 20:23:32] <indigo423> you are new with zenoss ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:24:08] <indigo423> i search at the moment some opensource network-management/monitoring systems
[12-Sep-2007 20:30:48] <davemoore> yep
[12-Sep-2007 20:30:53] <davemoore> i haven't used it before
[12-Sep-2007 20:35:25] <indigo423> have you tested some other systems before?
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:06] <davemoore> not in this area
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:13] <b52laptop> me liked hyperic :d
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:22] <b52laptop> i liked hyperic :d
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:25] <davemoore> I'm just looking into it for our network engineer, im a programmer :)
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:28] <b52laptop> but it's java :(
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:38] <indigo423> in my company they prefer nagios at the moment, but hyperic is my favorite at the moment
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:45] <davemoore> cool, ill check it out
[12-Sep-2007 20:36:58] <davemoore> zenoss seems to have a lot of stuff, i just can't get it to work
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:15] <indigo423> i`m programming java ;)
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:17] <b52laptop> indigo423, is it possible to do real time monitoring with hyperic ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:22] <b52laptop> indigo423, errrrr :D
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:28] <indigo423> not really
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:29] <b52laptop> indigo423, luck y:D
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:52] <b52laptop> i'm starting learning struts , it 's a little bit painfull :(
[12-Sep-2007 20:37:59] <b52laptop> indigo423, with zenoss ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:38:37] <indigo423> i don`t know my svn co is on the way ;)
[12-Sep-2007 20:38:49] <davemoore> is hyperic oss?
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:11] <b52laptop> davemoore, yes
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:21] <indigo423> yes but with some restrictions in functionality
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:27] <davemoore> yeah that's the way it goes
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:33] <b52laptop> build on the top of java + jboss + struts for UI
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:48] <b52laptop> indigo423, what are the restrictions ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:51] <indigo423> i learn groovy and grails at the moment.
[12-Sep-2007 20:39:55] <davemoore> wish i could get zenoss going, seems to have everything we want
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:02] <davemoore> i do most of my programming in .NET or php
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:23] <indigo423> http://www.hyperic.com/downloads/ ;)
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:36] <adytum-bot> Title: Download Now - Free Open Source Network Monitoring Software | Hyperic (at www.hyperic.com)
[12-Sep-2007 20:40:45] <davemoore> yep, looking at it right now, what OS do you run it off of?
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:32] <indigo423> debian for most
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:37] <davemoore> k
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:43] <davemoore> <-- sucks at linus
[12-Sep-2007 20:41:45] <davemoore> linux
[12-Sep-2007 20:42:43] <davemoore> I've played around with centOS and ubuntu a bit, but when it comes to getting down to serious work on them. I lose it. :D
[12-Sep-2007 20:42:47] <indigo423> i work at an isp and we have no windows machines but i have nothing against windows servers
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:19] <indigo423> :)
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:44] <davemoore> I don't really care either way, we just use windows at my work so im stuck with it for the most part.
[12-Sep-2007 20:43:52] <indigo423> for testing hyperic i have downloaded the virtual machine and it runs out-of-the-box
[12-Sep-2007 20:44:14] <davemoore> yeah I tried the zenoss vm, but it didn't work all the way
[12-Sep-2007 20:44:51] <indigo423> has zenoss some features like autodiscovery and snmp-traphandling ?
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:15] <davemoore> no idea to be honest, i was trying to get it running and play around with it
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:35] <b52laptop> for zenoss , it use zope , and twissted + zenoss specific stuff .... it's too much learning man :(
[12-Sep-2007 20:45:44] <indigo423> the most things i hate in nagios are the millions of flat-configfiles, addons and terrible snmp features
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:11] <indigo423> i have already tested opennms some oppions here about that?
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:17] <davemoore> is hyperic pretty easy to get g oing?
[12-Sep-2007 20:47:46] <indigo423> sorry for the extra p ;)
[12-Sep-2007 20:49:24] <indigo423> the web-ui is really powerfull with many ajax
[12-Sep-2007 20:50:18] <indigo423> it has an installer and it was not very complicate to install. nagios compiling is more difficult ;)
[12-Sep-2007 20:52:17] <davemoore> well, time for me to head out, thanks for the tips on hyperic :)
[12-Sep-2007 20:52:36] <indigo423> no prob
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:40] <johns55> hi
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:46] <johns55> im getting this error when compiling
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:47] <johns55> unable to create the initial Zenoss object database
[12-Sep-2007 21:09:50] <johns55> any ideas?
[12-Sep-2007 21:11:28] <indigo423> i install at this time zenoss from svn
[12-Sep-2007 21:14:07] <indigo423> i have installed libmysqlclient15-dev and python-dev package + setting the environments before run the install script
[12-Sep-2007 21:15:10] <indigo423> zenoss ist building nagios-plugins ??
[12-Sep-2007 21:15:59] <indigo423> and installing nagios ???
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[12-Sep-2007 21:54:24] <johns55> i think u need a database set up
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:24] <fiXXXerMet> I just did simply a snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname and I got 1672 results
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:35] <fiXXXerMet> Looking through, they're exactlyw hat I want to monitor - but it doesn't tell me which OID to use
[12-Sep-2007 22:11:39] <fiXXXerMet> Only a name (like hrSystemProcesses)
[12-Sep-2007 22:12:55] <fiXXXerMet> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSystemProcesses.0 = Gauge32: 69 for example
[12-Sep-2007 22:13:00] <fiXXXerMet> How do I find that's UID?
[12-Sep-2007 22:13:01] <fiXXXerMet> er, oid
[12-Sep-2007 22:16:21] <fiXXXerMet> i'll be back tomorrow to ask!
[12-Sep-2007 23:12:41] <Verilium> fixx: snmpwalk -O n
[12-Sep-2007 23:12:44] <Verilium> Ah damn.
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[13-Sep-2007 00:45:27] <johns55> anyone know how to install httpmonitor plug in?
[13-Sep-2007 01:44:45] <oakleeman> anybody awake?
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[19-Sep-2007 00:45:51] <eurowerke> anyone around that can help me with something?
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[19-Sep-2007 07:27:39] <iuso> hi. how do i upgrade zenoss 2.0.5 to 2.0.6 from source?
[19-Sep-2007 07:33:31] <iuso> nevermind, found the document in the tarball
[19-Sep-2007 08:36:55] <Merciless> anyone around for a quick chat about mib's/wmi and disk monitoring
[19-Sep-2007 09:27:14] <xinity_mbp> hy all
[19-Sep-2007 09:27:25] <xinity_mbp> anyone uses zenoss with some poweredge servers ?
[19-Sep-2007 10:33:03] <baz> hi anybody here? :)
[19-Sep-2007 11:06:47] <progma> anyone using 2.0.6 yet
[19-Sep-2007 11:50:26] <xinity_mbp> progma: i do
[19-Sep-2007 11:54:37] <progma> xinity_mbp: did you upgrade from a previous version?
[19-Sep-2007 11:54:53] <xinity_mbp> i do from 2.0.4
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:08] <progma> i'm running 2.0.3 which has a few minor bugs so was wondering if it was worth it to go to 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:27] <progma> oh ok; where are docs on upgrade?
[19-Sep-2007 11:55:59] <xinity_mbp> progma: i only dl the rpm and done a rpm -Uvh zenoss rpms
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:13] <xinity_mbp> and that's all he automatically have done the migration
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:45] <progma> nice, ok
[19-Sep-2007 11:56:58] <progma> i have rhel so ishould be able to do that
[19-Sep-2007 12:12:40] <progma> xinity_mbp: yup no problem, am now running 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 12:12:52] <xinity_mbp> :)
[19-Sep-2007 12:21:48] <Folke> anyone here that run hpsim snmp against zenoss for perfmon?
[19-Sep-2007 12:22:34] <Folke> Arh, meant hpasm
[19-Sep-2007 12:23:41] <monrad> not yet but i have been testing it
[19-Sep-2007 12:23:44] <monrad> hpasm
[19-Sep-2007 12:25:31] <Folke> monrad: did you get any snmp perf from it?
[19-Sep-2007 12:26:24] <monrad> not per default, i had to find the oids i wanted to monitor myself
[19-Sep-2007 12:26:51] <Folke> monrad: Ah then add them into a template?
[19-Sep-2007 12:27:59] <monrad> yes
[19-Sep-2007 12:28:45] <Folke> monrad: thanx. Btw, do you have such template that you could share?
[19-Sep-2007 12:29:26] <monrad> no it got deleted i have not made a new yet
[19-Sep-2007 12:29:28] <monrad> :/
[19-Sep-2007 12:48:58] <Folke> monrad: np, I will check if I can do it and perhaps share it. Thanks for the help anyway!
[19-Sep-2007 12:49:45] <monrad> Folke: np
[19-Sep-2007 13:15:00] <Merciless> localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure
[19-Sep-2007 13:15:01] <Merciless> :s
[19-Sep-2007 13:17:06] <progma> do you guys use a centralized syslog/syslog-ng with the event console
[19-Sep-2007 13:47:44] <fiXXXerMet> I have a problem with my Load Averages graph. The numbers/scales are way off - I'm going to paste an example image.
[19-Sep-2007 13:48:15] <fiXXXerMet> http://pastehere.com/PasteImages/gkwrxi.jpg there we are
[19-Sep-2007 13:48:24] <fiXXXerMet> A load of 200 million seems a bit high
[19-Sep-2007 13:52:53] <Merciless> localhost.localdomain zenstatus heartbeat failure
[19-Sep-2007 13:52:55] <Merciless> anyone have any ideas
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:17] <fiXXXerMet> I had the same thing and was told to clear my heartbeats for that device.
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:21] <fiXXXerMet> No problems since.
[19-Sep-2007 13:54:24] <Merciless> how
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:16] <Merciless> :)
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:47] <fiXXXerMet> Navigate to the device and it's in the drop down arrow thingy
[19-Sep-2007 13:55:49] <jb> anyone monitoring AIX hosts?
[19-Sep-2007 13:56:27] <fiXXXerMet> not eye
[19-Sep-2007 13:57:55] <Merciless> thanks fiXXXerMet
[19-Sep-2007 13:57:56] <Merciless> :)
[19-Sep-2007 13:58:18] <Merciless> how about
[19-Sep-2007 13:58:19] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121)
[19-Sep-2007 13:59:56] <fiXXXerMet> No idea
[19-Sep-2007 13:59:58] <fiXXXerMet> I'm a noob myself
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:16] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:18] <Merciless> fair enough :p
[19-Sep-2007 14:00:22] <Merciless> 1 out of 2 aint bad :D
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:30] <Bulwinkle> *YAWN*
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:38] <Bulwinkle> whats going on in here today?
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:54] <Merciless> fuck all :)
[19-Sep-2007 14:55:56] <Merciless> and hi Bulwinkle how are you
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:06] <Bulwinkle> same as always... good Merciless
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:09] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:11] <Merciless> good good
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:22] <Merciless> ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT: The semaphore timeout period has expired. (121) <--- that just show that WMI isnt working properly?
[19-Sep-2007 14:56:40] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: probably... let me look
[19-Sep-2007 14:57:10] <Merciless> kk
[19-Sep-2007 14:58:28] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: are you running 2.0.6?
[19-Sep-2007 14:59:29] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to have a threshold only trigger of the value is above a limit for a certain amount of time?
[19-Sep-2007 14:59:50] <fiXXXerMet> Like, CPU utilizaton > 80 & time > 5 minutes?
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:20] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: you can look at how often it polls and then extrapolate that to the "Count" field
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:46] <Merciless> yes Bulwinkle
[19-Sep-2007 15:02:48] <Merciless> 2.0.6
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:14] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: there is a thread going about that.... I'd keep an eye on it. Have you had this problem before you upgraded?
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:47] <Merciless> tbh, i stopped using it but no never had this problem with 2.0.4
[19-Sep-2007 15:03:52] <fiXXXerMet> It poles every 5 minutes so if I wanted it to trigger a warning after 1 hour, I'd set the Escalate Count field to 12?
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:18] <Bulwinkle> fiXXXerMet: yes... 5 * 12 = 60 minutes / 1 Hour :)
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:25] <fiXXXerMet> cool :)
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:41] <fiXXXerMet> Going to send me an email when the lights are turned on for longer than an hour ("Turn them off!")
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:55] <Merciless> your lights have mibs?
[19-Sep-2007 15:04:58] <Merciless> expensive house
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:01] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:05] <fiXXXerMet> lol no
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:14] <fiXXXerMet> But we have an environment monitor with a light sensor
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:20] <Merciless> ah ok :p
[19-Sep-2007 15:05:36] <fiXXXerMet> Which, for some reason, measures light on a 0 - 100 scale
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:06] <Merciless> rofl
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:17] <Merciless> maybe it was meant to be 0/1
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:19] <Merciless> and someone did a typo
[19-Sep-2007 15:06:20] <Merciless> :p
[19-Sep-2007 15:16:21] <Bulwinkle> Could be the difference from ambient light from outside (windows)....
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:17] <Merciless> Bulwinkle
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:23] <Merciless> wats the exact diff between paid for and free zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:23] <Merciless> :)
[19-Sep-2007 15:17:33] <Merciless> prob gna implement it in our network ya see
[19-Sep-2007 15:18:05] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: support.... you get it with Paid.... and there is some additional functionality (CMDB and such) also...
[19-Sep-2007 15:19:47] <Merciless> I guess the only reason we'd pay is for the support
[19-Sep-2007 15:19:50] <Merciless> and you know i need a lot :D
[19-Sep-2007 15:20:56] <Merciless> the biggest prob is replacing all the snmp information oid's with default snmp ones that do similar jobs haha
[19-Sep-2007 15:21:03] <Merciless> we cant install snmp informant on customer equip :(
[19-Sep-2007 15:21:50] <Bulwinkle> Merciless: they are asking for ~ $100US per device so.... We've gone with the "If it doesn't work, you're SOL" support model.
[19-Sep-2007 15:22:19] <Merciless> SOL?
[19-Sep-2007 15:23:33] <creiht> Bulwinkle: You always have us :)
[19-Sep-2007 15:23:51] <Bulwinkle> creiht: yes... ALWAYS :)
[19-Sep-2007 15:24:23] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 15:24:26] <Merciless> its been empty in here today
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:08] <Bulwinkle> I've been trying to get someone to fix the Windows servers not being polled problem for over a month now.... even put in a ticket...
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:17] <Merciless> lol
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:20] <Merciless> and u pay?
[19-Sep-2007 15:25:52] <Bulwinkle> no
[19-Sep-2007 15:26:25] <Bulwinkle> I'd gladly pay if I actually though I might get the support that the price should provide me....
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:16] <Bulwinkle> Once the updates get under control.... (stop breaking two things for each fix)... things will be better (that has been my mantra for months)
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:20] <progma> is zenoss hiring ;>
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:52] <Bulwinkle> progma: they were...
[19-Sep-2007 15:27:59] <Bulwinkle> dunno about lately
[19-Sep-2007 15:29:28] <Bulwinkle> No specific jobs posted but, "We're always looking for people with energy, talent, and creative drive, balanced with a commitment to precision and quality." .... who the hell isn't :)
[19-Sep-2007 15:29:52] <Bulwinkle> creiht: are you a ZenOSS employee?
[19-Sep-2007 15:31:22] <Bulwinkle> BBIAB - Meeting
[19-Sep-2007 15:35:21] <creiht> Bulwinkle: nope
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[19-Sep-2007 17:03:25] Tinozaure is now known as Tino
[19-Sep-2007 17:18:51] <fiXXXerMet> I'm still having trouble formatting the values that I am graphing. My temperature sensors report in celsius like "250" which actually means 25.0, however, the graphs are showing as 250.00
[19-Sep-2007 17:19:44] <MoreDakka> you could try to create a cdef to divid the number by 10.
[19-Sep-2007 17:19:57] <MoreDakka> I know how to do it in Cacti but not in zenoss :-/
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:40] <kgoedte1> you need to format the values
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:42] <kgoedte1> http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdgraph_graph.en.html
[19-Sep-2007 17:20:56] <adytum-bot> Title: RRDtool - rrdgraph_graph (at oss.oetiker.ch)
[19-Sep-2007 17:24:24] <fiXXXerMet> So the format is %5.2lf%s %5.2lf means "prints numbers like 12345.6789, with optional field width and precision." so 12345.12? And %s adds k or m or whatever
[19-Sep-2007 17:24:42] <fiXXXerMet> So I'd want %2.1lf ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:25:33] <fiXXXerMet> still not right
[19-Sep-2007 17:25:48] <kgoedte1> ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:12] <fiXXXerMet> %2.1lf is showing 430 as 430.0 and not 43.0
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:18] <MoreDakka> rrdtool probably doesn't see that number as 25.0 it sees it as 250.
[19-Sep-2007 17:26:45] <fiXXXerMet> You're right
[19-Sep-2007 17:27:28] <fiXXXerMet> How acn I change that?
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:00] <MoreDakka> you could try to divide by 10.
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:26] <MoreDakka> a, 10, / <--as a cdef function in cacti, zenoss will probably take that differently.
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:42] <xinity_mbp> anyone has any experience using other nagios plugins than check_http or check_dns ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:29:42] <kgoedte1> takes it the same
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:09] <kgoedte1> ive been trying to get check_ntp to work, but the datapoint doesnt show up when i create a zenpack
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:19] <kgoedte1> and i have no idea why
[19-Sep-2007 17:30:44] <xinity_mbp> kgoedte1: hum i see
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:29] <kgoedte1> i used dnsmonitor as a guide and modified the python and xml
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:45] <kgoedte1> the xml template is right, but no datapoint
[19-Sep-2007 17:31:51] <kgoedte1> and no errors
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:02] <xinity_mbp> weird
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:11] <kgoedte1> have you created any?
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:37] <xinity_mbp> not a zenpack , but i'm trying to get check_megaraid for nagios plugins, working with zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:50] <kgoedte1> as a command?
[19-Sep-2007 17:32:56] <kgoedte1> or a datasource
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:12] <xinity_mbp> just a command, it may not return any data usable to be graphed ;)
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:30] <kgoedte1> so what is the problem you have?
[19-Sep-2007 17:35:55] <xinity_mbp> understanding how command creation works ;)
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:07] <kgoedte1> ahh
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:11] <kgoedte1> it's pretty simple
[19-Sep-2007 17:36:42] <kgoedte1> what part arent you sure about?
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:08] <xinity_mbp> i wasn't sure if datasource is always needed
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:14] <kgoedte1> well
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:18] <xinity_mbp> or if it's only needed for graphs
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:38] <kgoedte1> hmm
[19-Sep-2007 17:37:52] <kgoedte1> do you have a sample output from it?
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:16] <kgoedte1> as far as i know there is nothing you can do with string data in zenoss
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:52] <xinity_mbp> well it just returns OK, WARNING or CRITICAL
[19-Sep-2007 17:38:56] <xinity_mbp> no data string
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:22] <xinity_mbp> for example
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:35] <xinity_mbp> i didn't catch for escalation count is for ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:40:44] <xinity_mbp> what does mean escalation count 5 ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:41:23] <kgoedte1> like how many occurences trigger an alert
[19-Sep-2007 17:41:25] <MoreDakka> fiXXXerMet: Did that divide by 10 fix your issue?
[19-Sep-2007 17:42:04] <xinity_mbp> kgoedte1: i see if i set it to 10 , everytime to treshold goes up 10 times zenoss will trigger an alert ?
[19-Sep-2007 17:43:19] <fiXXXerMet> CDEF:a,10,/ is all I need to enter?
[19-Sep-2007 17:44:52] <xinity_mbp> oups time to go home see ya later on guys ;)
[19-Sep-2007 17:47:19] <MoreDakka> fiXXXerMet: I'm guessing that the format will remain %0.2lf%s but I'm not sure where to enter the math for that :-/
[19-Sep-2007 17:47:26] <MoreDakka> haven't done it in zenoss before, just cacti
[19-Sep-2007 18:25:40] <fiXXXerMet> Any of you monitoring smoothwall servers? I'd like to graph the bandwidth/throughput
[19-Sep-2007 18:25:43] <fiXXXerMet> But I can't find those oids
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:25] <nws> nice size group
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:43] <nws> is this place active?
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:50] <kgoedte1> never
[19-Sep-2007 18:29:52] <nws> heh
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:25] <nws> im going through the data migration from 1.1 to 2.0
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:38] <kgoedte1> 2.1 beta out!
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:50] <nws> and when i run bin/python zen2dump.py, i receive an error
[19-Sep-2007 19:19:58] <nws> kgoedte1: i know, thats what im trying to install
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:15] <kgoedte1> cool, yah im about to right now
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:48] <nws> this is the error i get
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:49] <nws> http://pastebin.com/d733923ab
[19-Sep-2007 19:20:57] <adytum-bot> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
[19-Sep-2007 19:22:40] <kgoedte1> i have no idea with that, i never bothered migrating
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:00] <kgoedte1> i just wiped and started over since i didnt have much
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:24] <nws> yea...
[19-Sep-2007 19:23:28] <nws> thats not gonna happen here
[19-Sep-2007 19:25:09] <kgoedte1> and you are running this as zenoss user i hope
[19-Sep-2007 19:30:11] <nws> yea
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:23] <nws> hahaha
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:28] <nws> and this link is broken
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:29] <nws> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:33] <nws> what a POS
[19-Sep-2007 19:43:54] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[19-Sep-2007 20:15:47] <fiXXXerMet> That mapping feature in 2.1 is super cool
[19-Sep-2007 20:16:02] <nws> fiXXXerMet: did you have any trouble upgrading?
[19-Sep-2007 20:16:44] <fiXXXerMet> Haven' done so yet - just saw the screen shots
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:16] <nws> let me know if you run into issues with the zen2dump.py
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:36] <nws> im seeing that im not the only one with errors from that script
[19-Sep-2007 20:17:47] <nws> its just that none of them are uniform so far
[19-Sep-2007 20:18:02] <fiXXXerMet> okay
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:23] <kgoedte1> lots of stuff is broken for me in 2.1
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:35] <nws> hah
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:42] <nws> this is getting better and better
[19-Sep-2007 20:19:51] <nws> what is "broken" for you?
[19-Sep-2007 20:21:08] <kgoedte1> the example zenpacks dont work, locations panel in dashboard errors
[19-Sep-2007 21:40:51] <fiXXXerMet> How do I change the default snmp polling time?
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[19-Sep-2007 23:57:16] <z00dax> hello
[19-Sep-2007 23:58:29] <z00dax> humm, actually - i shall be back later
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[20-Sep-2007 00:22:53] <kanderson> Hello. Has any experienced the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA' when zenoss attempts to send alerts?
[20-Sep-2007 03:00:59] <kanderson> Has any experienced the sendmail error 'did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA' when zenoss attempts to send alerts?
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[20-Sep-2007 04:20:08] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Code Monkey - 19 Sep, 04:04PM
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[20-Sep-2007 10:54:28] <twarnick> hi, i have now running the beta 1, but cannot discover any devices. it runs on a error in "ZDeviceLoader.py". is there a patch or workaround availby?
[20-Sep-2007 11:12:20] <twarnick> have any body the same error?
[20-Sep-2007 11:26:57] <Folke> twarnick: I had the same problem when testing it in vmware app,
[20-Sep-2007 11:27:58] <twarnick> i have it also running as vmware app.
[20-Sep-2007 11:31:36] <twarnick> have any body beta 1 running without vmware? (and have this error)?
[20-Sep-2007 12:04:44] * z00dax back
[20-Sep-2007 12:04:51] <z00dax> so guys, any of you based in London ?
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:00] <z00dax> also, does anyone know when Chris is around ?
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:06] * z00dax lurks
[20-Sep-2007 12:05:34] <Folke> twarnick: sry, only with appliance.
[20-Sep-2007 12:35:36] <fiXXXerMet> To uninstall zenoss, can I just rm -r /usr/local/zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 12:43:07] <z00dax> fiXXXerMet: rpm -e might work too
[20-Sep-2007 12:43:51] <fiXXXerMet> I didn't install from a package
[20-Sep-2007 15:22:33] <jp10558> Hey, with monitoring Windows machines, is there any way to specify what event log entries get brought over as events in Zenoss?
[20-Sep-2007 15:36:04] <fiXXXerMet> Where do I change the default snmp polling time?
[20-Sep-2007 17:15:21] <pablo26> hi all
[20-Sep-2007 17:16:13] FuL|O