IRC May 2008

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[01-May-2008 01:33:03] hurm
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[01-May-2008 13:31:16] I saw a post in the forums about resolving port scan, please search the forums
[01-May-2008 13:31:52] Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
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[01-May-2008 15:04:14] hi all
[01-May-2008 15:04:19] <_chris_> hello
[01-May-2008 15:10:34] hi guys i am trying to monitor Disk space and Memory usage what process parameter should i setup for my windows machine
[01-May-2008 15:11:51] Hi everybody, I need to get an SNMP table and show it on Zenoss. please assist.
[01-May-2008 15:16:34] magnachef u there?
[01-May-2008 15:17:14] <_chris_> masaghi: maybe this would work better if you described what you have tried so far
[01-May-2008 15:25:32] I want to get list of users logged in a linux server.
[01-May-2008 15:25:49] So I want to use net-snmp to get a defined OID and return the list
[01-May-2008 15:26:06] I don't know better solution. I think I can do this by using command instead of SNMP. but I dont' know how!
[01-May-2008 15:26:20]  could you please help me!
[01-May-2008 15:33:27] is there anyone here helping me?
[01-May-2008 15:35:55] <_chris_> maybe your question is better suited for the forums.
[01-May-2008 15:36:45] thanks a lot for your consideration
[01-May-2008 15:37:34] I have another question: Zenhub daemon on my server stops without any log!!!!
[01-May-2008 15:38:27] It starts at the beginning and stops after a second!
[01-May-2008 15:38:57] It was working fine and now I have this problem with it
[01-May-2008 15:44:06] masaghi: I think this works: zenhub run -v10
[01-May-2008 15:44:19] that'll keep it in the foreground with extra debugging
[01-May-2008 15:49:11] how can i monitor disk and memory space
[01-May-2008 15:51:48] <_chris_> idea4gud: disk and memory information is returned by SNMP agents. if you model a device you should get that information automatically.
[01-May-2008 15:53:13] i just the enter the device ip adress
[01-May-2008 15:53:30] do i need to change in perf parameter like in setting
[01-May-2008 15:56:06] it doesnt get me automaticalluy
[01-May-2008 15:56:18] also in the status and perf monitor i have localhost
[01-May-2008 15:56:22] do i have to tht
[01-May-2008 15:56:28] *change
[01-May-2008 15:58:58] Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
[01-May-2008 16:08:36] mray: ping
[01-May-2008 16:10:41] here is the log:
[01-May-2008 16:10:43] Traceback (most recent call last):
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 395, in ?
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] z = ZenHub()
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 185, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] ZCmdBase.__init__(self)
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenUtils/ZCmdBase.py", line 44, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:10:58] self.zeoConnect()
[01-May-2008 16:11:00] File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/zenhub.py", line 227, in zeoConnect
[01-May-2008 16:11:02] cache_size=self.options.pcachesize*1024*1024)
[01-May-2008 16:11:04] File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/ClientStorage.py", line 314, in __init__
[01-May-2008 16:11:06] File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 112, in open
[01-May-2008 16:11:08] File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 835, in scan
[01-May-2008 16:11:10] File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 121, in install
[01-May-2008 16:11:12] File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZEO/cache.py", line 630, in fromFile
[01-May-2008 16:11:14] ValueError: corrupted record, oid
[01-May-2008 16:12:13] masaghi: I'd say put a detailed post on the zenoss-users forum with a good description. Especially if you're using the Beta, someone will get back to you sooner.
[01-May-2008 16:12:17] malbon: yo
[01-May-2008 16:12:45] thanks
[01-May-2008 16:13:54] mray: did you see my email?
[01-May-2008 16:14:33] malbon: no, was it direct or to a list?
[01-May-2008 16:15:05] malbon: I gotta go to a meeting, I'll be back
[01-May-2008 16:15:09] mray: direct and from my $current_employer
[01-May-2008 16:15:19] mray: no prob, ping me when you're back please.
[01-May-2008 16:27:53] Hi, Zenoss it seems to be a really good application if I refer to comments on the web, but I have installed Zenoss on a server, but is everything except "straight forward" configuration, I can only see some of the devices, but not much information, and even nothing if I talk about my linux servers.
[01-May-2008 16:28:23] I have installed snmp on all of the servers but no answer.
[01-May-2008 16:28:41] the default config file will only allow access from localhost.
[01-May-2008 16:29:04] You'll need to edit /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf to allow access from your zenoss server in most distros.
[01-May-2008 16:29:27] or if you're using HP gear, point zenoss at the iLO and use it instead (it proxies snmp)
[01-May-2008 16:30:16] Does anyone know how to fix this error: Error reading value for "ifHCInUcastPkts"
[01-May-2008 16:30:55] zenops: snmpwalk the device, to check the device supports that mib.
[01-May-2008 16:32:04] is there any howto on monitoring processes on nix box?
[01-May-2008 16:33:11] maj: the admin guide is your friend :)
[01-May-2008 16:33:13] ok let me check
[01-May-2008 16:33:26] malbon do we need to on the server snmp.conf
[01-May-2008 16:33:29] or on the client
[01-May-2008 16:33:41] the client which you wish to monitor
[01-May-2008 16:33:52] also what abt windows macchine
[01-May-2008 16:33:58] well actually zenoss is the client, and the endpoint is the server
[01-May-2008 16:34:11] i have snmp enabled with trap service but still i get no information
[01-May-2008 16:34:14] have you got snmp installed on your windows machines?
[01-May-2008 16:34:49] yeah i have SNMP and SNMP trap enabled
[01-May-2008 16:35:16] have you done an snmpwalk from the server that zenoss is running on to make sure that the two can communicate?
[01-May-2008 16:35:30] yes
[01-May-2008 16:36:09] can you define still then? how long have you been waiting?
[01-May-2008 16:37:13] i did snmpwalk now and it gave huge MIB info
[01-May-2008 16:37:58] ok so the profile in zenoss, have you moved it to the /Server/Windows device class?
[01-May-2008 16:38:04] yes
[01-May-2008 16:38:12] and you have re-modelled it?
[01-May-2008 16:38:22] (after pushing the changes?)
[01-May-2008 16:38:35] Does anyone know if zenoss (community version) can monitor the traffic of a nfs-server?
[01-May-2008 16:39:14] Sure thanks
[01-May-2008 16:40:33] i am lookin for HD,Memory space and CPU utilization of the device
[01-May-2008 16:40:53] but i dont get any info
[01-May-2008 16:44:31] someone?
[01-May-2008 16:48:31] idea4gud: sounds like you need to remodel the device to me
[01-May-2008 16:49:18] malbon: I can not find any configuration via IP addresses, only via Domains, but at the moment I'm working only with IP addresses no domains at all, I am trying to install Zenoss so I can monitor everything and then install a DNS server...
[01-May-2008 16:51:06] malbon: remodel the device to me?
[01-May-2008 16:51:28] tukulitosakayama: go to basics, make sure that snmpwalk works
[01-May-2008 16:52:07] idea4gud: remodel the device
[01-May-2008 16:52:21] OK, from Zenoss server
[01-May-2008 16:52:40] idea4gud: then wait about 15mins, because RRDtool needs at least 3 readings before it displays any values
[01-May-2008 16:52:48] tukulitosakayama: yes, exactly.
[01-May-2008 17:40:01] does the snmpd.conf on Zenoss box need to have the same config as the other servers, I have Centos 5 on the two sides (to start)
[01-May-2008 17:45:33] malbon: I don't see an email from you
[01-May-2008 17:45:42] malbon: but I've got a lot of filters
[01-May-2008 17:47:51] malbon: oh wait, the Jython stuff?
[01-May-2008 17:48:55] Dekel: I'm not sure of a good way to monitor the traffic on an NFS system
[01-May-2008 17:50:28] <_chris_> Dekel: how does your NFS provide performance metrics?
[01-May-2008 17:51:21] <_chris_> Dekel: zenoss can run commands, capture their output, and record what is produced.
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] I'm doing something wrong? is there any document where I can find how to setup snmpd.conf ?
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] snmpwalk 192.168.2.64
[01-May-2008 17:53:27] snmpwalk: No securityName specified
[01-May-2008 17:53:58] <_chris_> snmpwalk -c public -v 1 192.168.2.64 .1
[01-May-2008 17:54:27] <_chris_> tukulitosakayama: consult the documentation for your distribution. each distro configures /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf differently.
[01-May-2008 17:54:57] <_chris_> also consult the security settings on your distro. some distros bind the snmpd to 127.0.0.1 and thus remote hosts (e.g. zenoss) can't query them.
[01-May-2008 17:58:15] mray, _chris_, if zenoss only run commands and so it sounds like a nagios-like system
[01-May-2008 17:59:08] <_chris_> Dekel: nagios-style output is one technique for collecting performance information. there are other (e.g. snmp, wmi) techniques as well.
[01-May-2008 17:59:40] zenoss workswith snmp, right?
[01-May-2008 18:00:05] definitely
[01-May-2008 18:00:07] mray: yup, jython goodness
[01-May-2008 18:00:16] <_chris_> yes, zenoss works with snmp. if you read the user's guide you'll get an idea of what zenoss can do
[01-May-2008 18:00:17] malbon: working on the followup
[01-May-2008 18:00:31] well... my problem is that i have a nfs-server, which serves many computers in my organization
[01-May-2008 18:00:32] malbon: I was out of town the last week with LinuxFest NW
[01-May-2008 18:01:52] and i'm not sure why, but we have some troubles with this server... and we are not really sure what cause these troubles
[01-May-2008 18:04:21] <_chris_> it might be more productive if you instead described what you know about the server and what you would like to do with zenoss. for example, my NFS server has a perl based API i can call locally to retrieve the number of reads and writes per second. how do i get zenoss to capture that information, graph it, and alert me when the values exceed some range?
[01-May-2008 18:06:04] malbon: sent
[01-May-2008 18:08:19] _chris_, the problem is that i'm not sure about the ranges...
[01-May-2008 18:08:48] the problems are number of connections, read/writes, memory, swap, user-auth and much more...
[01-May-2008 18:09:06] <_chris_> are you capturing this information in zenoss already?
[01-May-2008 18:09:08] it might also be a problem with the configuration of the server
[01-May-2008 18:09:21] i don't have zenoss yet
[01-May-2008 18:09:35] mray: I've heard some rubbish excuses. :P (only joking)
[01-May-2008 18:09:53] i'm looking for some tool to monitor this server so i can find the problems :)
[01-May-2008 18:10:19] <_chris_> seems like a good first step is to install zenoss and begin monitoring your NFS server
[01-May-2008 18:12:28] monitoring for what exactly, this is the question...
[01-May-2008 18:12:38] do i need to write all of the tests my self?
[01-May-2008 18:12:54] <_chris_> well ya -
[01-May-2008 18:13:04] <_chris_> we don't have out-of-the-box configurations for every NFS/NAS server out there
[01-May-2008 18:13:09] not the answer i was looking for :)
[01-May-2008 18:13:12] <_chris_> so if you've got some NFS server
[01-May-2008 18:13:25] <_chris_> and you can programmatically access it's performance information
[01-May-2008 18:13:56] <_chris_> if you'd like some onsite handholding there's always the professional services option ($$) :)
[01-May-2008 18:14:13] yeah, i know
[01-May-2008 18:14:34] are you familiar with ntop?
[01-May-2008 18:14:42] <_chris_> sure
[01-May-2008 18:17:05] part of what i'm getting from this tool is nfs data monitoring
[01-May-2008 18:17:43] mray: so that's basically no then.
[01-May-2008 18:18:09] i was looking for a dedicated nfs monitoring tool
[01-May-2008 18:18:23] malbon: is there a specific appserver/application you want to monitor?
[01-May-2008 18:18:36] thought that the zenoss had a plugin for that...
[01-May-2008 18:19:02] Dekel: I'd love to have one too
[01-May-2008 18:19:13] mray: yes, Caplin which I already have working with the existing JMX connector, but the connector has too many warts to be useful.
[01-May-2008 18:20:49] <_chris_> Dekel: the platforms open and all the code is available. if zenoss doesn't do something you need you can always develop a zenpack to improve zenoss or you can send in a community contribution
[01-May-2008 18:21:08] mray: anyhow I'll respond to the email. catch you later.
[01-May-2008 18:21:19] malbon: _chris_ will look at it too
[01-May-2008 18:21:57] Dekel: If you're interested in working on a ZenPack, feel free to email me at mray@zenoss.com
[01-May-2008 18:25:49] i just wrote a pass script for net-snmpd to access all the stats via an snmp oid template in zenoss. works great.
[01-May-2008 18:26:21] <_chris_> kgoedte1: cool! we have someone else that did that too and he sweats it!
[01-May-2008 18:26:23] provides all the nfs op counters
[01-May-2008 18:29:00] also i rewrote the community provided netapp zenpack and made large modifications to the zenoss provided apache zenpack
[01-May-2008 18:29:45] but i never repackaged them :[
[01-May-2008 18:35:32] kgoedte1: If you want to contribute it back, feel free to send it to me at mray@zenoss.com
[01-May-2008 18:36:00] no rush though, we're busy getting 2.2 out the door
[01-May-2008 18:45:25] I am getting this messages: Error reading value for "ifInOctets" on....
[01-May-2008 18:45:45] <_chris_> zenops: the SNMP agent for that device isn't returning that OID.
[01-May-2008 18:45:51] <_chris_> what type of device is it?
[01-May-2008 18:45:58] Windows server
[01-May-2008 18:46:02] 2003
[01-May-2008 18:46:06] <_chris_> are you running the SNMP Informant?
[01-May-2008 18:46:31] and it is running snmp and informant....Let me check again
[01-May-2008 18:47:43] yes it is installed..
[01-May-2008 18:48:20] <_chris_> that's strange. are there any other events that complain about interface metrics not being read from the server?
[01-May-2008 18:49:19] in the perf tab, I have way too many graphs like 10 but only have of them work
[01-May-2008 18:49:38] have = half
[01-May-2008 18:50:36] Actually I have 18 graph tables
[01-May-2008 18:51:11] and 10 of them are only pulling data
[01-May-2008 19:09:06] <_chris_> __ian__ has arrived!
[01-May-2008 19:09:30] <_chris_> __ian__: any pancakes today for lunch?
[01-May-2008 19:09:50] <__ian__> Sadly, no. Rockin it mac and cheese style.
[01-May-2008 19:22:58] <_chris_> i rocked it mac and cheese style last night. i added some stoufers stuffing and chicken on the side though.
[01-May-2008 19:27:01] <_chris_> __jason__ is here too!
[01-May-2008 19:28:24] My count puts us at 5 Zenoss employees, if anyone has questions now's the time!
[01-May-2008 19:29:43] sounds good...Is there a way to lock Processes and Services across an entire class or System group?
[01-May-2008 19:31:41] or even add services across a class
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] I'm having weird issues with OS Processes I have a regexp for xinetd. when it originally ran, it found one with name "xinetd" and one with "xinetd -stayalive -reuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd" randomly today, the "xinetd" process created an alert that "Process not running: xinetd". after doing an SNMP walk, I received the following lines:
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunName.25458 = "xinetd"
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunPath.25458 = "xinetd"
[01-May-2008 19:36:10] host.hrSWRun.hrSWRunTable.hrSWRunEntry.hrSWRunParameters.25458 = "-stayalive -resuse -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid".
[01-May-2008 19:36:12] not sure why it's not finding xinetd process
[01-May-2008 19:37:55] dunno, Im sure Mac and Cheese would solve the problem though
[01-May-2008 19:38:05] yeah, already tried that
[01-May-2008 19:48:22] I am getting this messages: Error reading value for "ifInOctets" ifouterror, ifhcoutoctets, ifoperstatus..etc...
[01-May-2008 19:48:49] the device is a cisco switch cat3750
[01-May-2008 19:49:11] <_chris_> zenops: the snmp agent on your switch isn't returning those OIDs for some reason
[01-May-2008 19:49:26] <_chris_> maybe you need to login to the console and give the switch permission to return those values?
[01-May-2008 19:52:05] it has already been done
[01-May-2008 19:53:57] Thet were working fine until loaded all the mibs at once using *.* I have done it before with no problem..
[01-May-2008 19:55:03] How do I troubleshoot to have these oIDs to be read..
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[02-May-2008 07:37:33] Hehe, got a funny alert from Zenoss: bear /cdrom/sol-10-u5-ga-sparc threshold of Free Space 90 Percent exceeded
[02-May-2008 13:16:15] I am having this errors: Error reading value for "ifHCOutUcastPkts" on NPIF475F9 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.11 is bad)
[02-May-2008 13:16:34] eventClass /Perf/Snmp
[02-May-2008 13:16:47] can anyone decipher this one
[02-May-2008 14:10:13] I am having this errors: Error reading value for "ifHCOutUcastPkts" on NPIF475F9 (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.11 is bad)
[02-May-2008 14:10:26] eventClass /Perf/Snmp
[02-May-2008 14:10:29] can anyone decipher this one
[02-May-2008 14:13:40] zenops: well, your device is not returning a value for that oid
[02-May-2008 14:55:27] is there a way that I can have development servers and production servers in zenoss, but have separate event console views so that Dev doesn't show up in the prodcution list?
[02-May-2008 15:08:59] how about using the dashboard so you can have an object watch list, one for production and one for development ??
[02-May-2008 15:10:13] but wouldn't (in essence) that take away the event console functionality?
[02-May-2008 15:11:09] i know that you can specify whether a device is production, test, etc
[02-May-2008 15:11:29] seems like it should be trivial to have an event console that can filter on that
[02-May-2008 15:12:14] actually the event console can filter production or development ....
[02-May-2008 15:12:53] how about creating to classes--- development and production ... so when you are in the event console you can
[02-May-2008 15:13:17] see clearly if it comes from production servers or development servers
[02-May-2008 15:13:44] how do I filter between prod and dev in the console?
[02-May-2008 15:14:17] you click in the top ... it says " eventClass" and you can filter them
[02-May-2008 15:14:43] works the same for "device", "component", "eventClass" , etc. etc.
[02-May-2008 15:14:51] eventClass has a correlation of dev or production?
[02-May-2008 15:15:06] my eventClass has /Status/IpService, etc
[02-May-2008 15:15:15] nop... you have to create a class for each one..
[02-May-2008 15:15:29] and then map your events to the classes tou create
[02-May-2008 15:15:35] so you can classify them...
[02-May-2008 15:16:09] for example... go to the "groups" option in the left panel...
[02-May-2008 15:16:28] ok
[02-May-2008 15:16:37] and create dev and prod in there
[02-May-2008 15:16:52] you can see sub-groups.. click on the small triangle to add a New Organizer
[02-May-2008 15:16:56] yep
[02-May-2008 15:17:15] yeah, I've set up groups under the Systems
[02-May-2008 15:17:28] not sure what the Groups section was for
[02-May-2008 15:17:53] once you have both... you could and n - subgroups to each one... say " linux server " or "windonws server "
[02-May-2008 15:17:53] I see what you're saying though
[02-May-2008 15:18:22] once you have such goups....you can add devices to each group
[02-May-2008 15:18:37] I was just hoping that I could use the data that already exists about each server
[02-May-2008 15:18:53] can I do the same for "Systems"?
[02-May-2008 15:19:03] instead of using "Groups"
[02-May-2008 15:19:45] yep.... it is a matter of trying
[02-May-2008 15:20:16] works the same if you create event classes
[02-May-2008 15:20:25] you go to events in the left panel
[02-May-2008 15:20:35] then you can see a list of sub-classes
[02-May-2008 15:21:03] then you may create "development" and "production" the same was
[02-May-2008 15:21:08] way
[02-May-2008 15:21:36] and finally you map these event classes with the events you see in the event console list
[02-May-2008 15:25:34] in my case the dashboard makes it all right because gives me a summary of events of each group in a view
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] hi everybody
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] I need a help.
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] Is there anybody here to help me to get an SNMP table read to ZENOSS and show it in the frontend?
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] I need this to get a private MIB table rows and show them in Zenoss.
[02-May-2008 15:55:07] Please tutor me!
[02-May-2008 16:00:54] masaghi.... I don't fully understand your question.... are you monitoring any device in Zenoss ?
[02-May-2008 16:14:34] I extended net-snmp to support a private MIB table that gives some information from a linux server.
[02-May-2008 16:14:41] Now I need to get this MIB table and show it in Zenoss
[02-May-2008 16:14:48] I don't know what I shoud to do
[02-May-2008 16:15:17] garnica: please help me
[02-May-2008 16:21:45] masaghi: ok... calm down.... from the left panel of the Zenoss server click on "device List"... is there any item on the list ??
[02-May-2008 16:24:33] yes
[02-May-2008 16:31:48] masaghi: click on any of the devices in the device list.... this will be the target for an SNMP Request
[02-May-2008 16:33:21] masaghi:you should see the "Status" tab of the device
[02-May-2008 18:14:21] ok.... I am monitoring 15 devices on a zenoss server... say xxx.xxx.xxx.20 and I have a second zenoss server say xxx.xxx.xxx.55 . What would you do to receive all trap messages in 55 when they are received in 20 ??
[02-May-2008 18:15:03] without making any changes in the 15 devices being monitored ?
[02-May-2008 18:17:02] so traps are going from .55 to .20?
[02-May-2008 18:17:43] so traps can be going from .20 to .55
[02-May-2008 18:18:31] you can send the traps to both
[02-May-2008 18:18:52] just set that up in your config
[02-May-2008 18:19:32] that way both (theorhetically) will get the same/all traps
[02-May-2008 18:20:02] yep... that would involve modifying the 15 devs being monitored wich are located somewhat far
[02-May-2008 18:20:33] you could setup a trap proxy
[02-May-2008 18:20:58] so they'd all send to the proxy on .20 and have it send to both systems
[02-May-2008 18:21:00] I was wondering.... is not there a way to enroute traps in xxx.20 to xxx.50 too ?
[02-May-2008 18:21:17] ok
[02-May-2008 18:21:22] sounds good
[02-May-2008 18:21:52] so I should set up a proxy in .20
[02-May-2008 18:24:28] yeah
[02-May-2008 18:28:12] thanks ! I will dive on deploying that proxy...
[02-May-2008 18:29:38] np
[02-May-2008 18:32:49] forwarding traps is one of the primary functions of snmptrapd
[02-May-2008 18:42:40] ping npmcallum
[02-May-2008 18:49:57] Is it easy to generate a custom report that includes all devices and their management IP in the web interface, or would that have to be done in TALES?
[02-May-2008 18:50:39] tada
[02-May-2008 18:50:45] ok thanks locohost ! trying it !
[02-May-2008 19:05:54] probably use the net-snmp room if you need help, i dont remember the syntax, something like traphandle 1.3
[02-May-2008 19:10:26] where's the setting for what time I kick off zenmodler?
[02-May-2008 19:10:54] I know it's every 6 hours by default, but it's been running during the day and slowing down the system
[02-May-2008 19:11:20] <_chris__> magnachef: i believe it's based on when you started up zenmodeler
[02-May-2008 19:11:25] <_chris__> it's +6 hours from that time
[02-May-2008 19:11:28] <_chris__> we don't run it out of cron
[02-May-2008 19:11:59] how can I increase that to 24 hours?
[02-May-2008 19:12:10] do I need to change the cycletime in the config?
[02-May-2008 19:12:46] so I'm looking at the daemons tab under /About/zenossInfo
[02-May-2008 19:13:07] there's an edit config option, but it's blank, and I'm not sure what goes there
[02-May-2008 19:16:21] any thoughts?
[02-May-2008 19:21:39] also...trying to restart zenmodeler via the webpage does not actually restart the process
[02-May-2008 19:22:30] <_chris__> set cycletime in your ${ZENHOME}/etc/zenmodeler.conf
[02-May-2008 19:22:44] <_chris__> it's in minutes so set it to be 24 * 60
[02-May-2008 19:23:53] ok...currently that file is empty
[02-May-2008 19:24:11] <_chris__> yes - so it's using the default, which is 6 hours
[02-May-2008 19:24:58] so I just put in: --cycletime=1440
[02-May-2008 19:25:03] <_chris__> no
[02-May-2008 19:25:04] <_chris__> put in
[02-May-2008 19:25:06] <_chris__> cycletime 1440
[02-May-2008 19:25:14] gotcha
[02-May-2008 19:25:24] that's the same file that gets changed if you did the edit config from the gui, magnachef
[02-May-2008 19:26:12] cool...thanks
[02-May-2008 19:54:16] what's the default number of devices zenmodeler collects in paralell?
[02-May-2008 20:11:29] has anyone experienced serious lag or timeout when clicking on a device's "Edit" tab?
[02-May-2008 20:11:43] all the other tabs work fine (OS, Hardware, etc)
[02-May-2008 22:00:14] _chris__: ping, are you there?
[02-May-2008 22:00:28] <_chris__> ya
[02-May-2008 22:00:31] <_chris__> i'm heading out though
[02-May-2008 22:00:59] no prob, I'll catch you another time. enjoy your weekend.
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[03-May-2008 03:37:25] so i'm trying to adjust the connection settings for zeo for a new install and they get over written in the initial start up process
[03-May-2008 03:37:39] what is the correct way to adjust those connection settings
[03-May-2008 03:37:41] ?
[03-May-2008 03:38:17] in my deployment environment i can't bind to localhost:8100
[03-May-2008 03:39:01] so i want to use a unix socket for the connection
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[03-May-2008 04:26:04] so if anyone is interested, you have to edit /opt/zenoss/skel/etc/zenoss.conf
[03-May-2008 04:26:37] i was editing /opt/zenoss/etc/zope.conf and it was alway getting overwritten
[03-May-2008 10:58:27] 4
[03-May-2008 10:58:32] doh!
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[04-May-2008 22:10:59] Hey!
[04-May-2008 22:12:43] I tried adding a field in a custom schema, it pops up a "Property Added" but nothing happens (name: cWebserverVersion)
[04-May-2008 22:12:46] any ideas?
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[05-May-2008 06:29:14] hi
[05-May-2008 06:29:51] i need some support on the vmware appliance version and remote access to the webpage
[05-May-2008 09:09:34] I have problem every time I try starting zenoss, mostly I'm confused why I dont have /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl and /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[05-May-2008 09:11:50] http://pastebin.com/d5b8347cf
[05-May-2008 09:12:01] That's how it looks like every time I try to start
[05-May-2008 10:51:43] nothing?
[05-May-2008 11:51:15] can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 13:12:42] can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 13:12:56] spam
[05-May-2008 13:12:57] :P
[05-May-2008 13:13:32] check the forums ?
[05-May-2008 13:13:32] zenops: in the interface template
[05-May-2008 13:13:48] anyone got an idea about my problem?
[05-May-2008 13:14:04] Nemie: restate it?
[05-May-2008 13:14:12] 11:09:33 : Nemie: I have problem every time I try starting zenoss, mostly I'm confused why I dont have /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl and /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl
[05-May-2008 13:14:15] 11:11:50 : Nemie: http://pastebin.com/d5b8347cf
[05-May-2008 13:14:18] 11:12:01 : Nemie: That's how it looks like every time I try to start
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[05-May-2008 13:15:25] Nemie: new install?
[05-May-2008 13:15:49] Bulwinkle: installed it 3 times on Fedora 8 and 2 times on CentOS 5
[05-May-2008 13:16:03] Nemie, i told you last week
[05-May-2008 13:16:03] always the same problem
[05-May-2008 13:16:08] the post install step didnt work
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] if you see:
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] #
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] Daemon: zeoctl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] #
[05-May-2008 13:16:11] Daemon: zopectl /opt/zenoss/bin/zenoss: line 99: /opt/zenoss/bin/zopectl: No such file or directory
[05-May-2008 13:16:19] zope is not installed / running right
[05-May-2008 13:16:31] but what the hell is zope?
[05-May-2008 13:16:40] the appserver behind
[05-May-2008 13:16:42] Nemie: it is the framework that zenoss runs on
[05-May-2008 13:16:48] if it's something zenoss needs, shouldn't it come with the source?
[05-May-2008 13:16:56] Nemie: it does
[05-May-2008 13:17:01] well apparently not
[05-May-2008 13:17:08] seriously, fuck keep explaining this stuff, i will just stay quiet , but dont expect help if you cant learn
[05-May-2008 13:17:15] ...
[05-May-2008 13:17:37] Nemie: it does, trust me, it just isnt installing. how are you installing, from source or RPMS?
[05-May-2008 13:17:43] RPM
[05-May-2008 13:17:57] on fedora from source
[05-May-2008 13:18:01] Nemie: where are you getting the RPMs from?
[05-May-2008 13:18:21] nemo_: seems futile doesn't it?
[05-May-2008 13:18:29] ever so slightly
[05-May-2008 13:18:33] wtf is zope, duh
[05-May-2008 13:18:37] http://www.zenoss.com/download/form
[05-May-2008 13:18:46] Title: Which Zenoss is right for you? - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[05-May-2008 13:19:39] Nemie: that doen't tell me anything....
[05-May-2008 13:19:50] Nemie: what monitoring system are you using now?
[05-May-2008 13:19:58] but it seems that might be better that I leave, so I don't make you more angry... I shall try to figure it out... sorry to boher you
[05-May-2008 13:20:23] nemo_: dude, awesome!
[05-May-2008 13:20:44] who else can you get rid of? :)
[05-May-2008 13:20:55] well i am sorry irc isnt there for me to do your job
[05-May-2008 13:21:01] its about sharing knowledge
[05-May-2008 13:21:06] hahah
[05-May-2008 13:21:17] come on, do my job too :)
[05-May-2008 13:21:19] ppl sit here and ask us to work out there problems
[05-May-2008 13:21:41] anyway i didnt kick him ;P
[05-May-2008 13:21:53] i said id be quiet but he wouldnt get help from me
[05-May-2008 13:22:01] if you guys wanna waste your lives, go ahead ;P
[05-May-2008 13:22:09] enopugh said anyhoo ;-0
[05-May-2008 13:46:01] Has anyone else dealt with this error before?
[05-May-2008 13:46:01] 1033, "Incorrect information in file: './events/status.frm'"
[05-May-2008 13:46:49] This is happening when we changed the innod database to off in the Mysql settings I think.
[05-May-2008 14:48:32] i' having some problem with zenping, is says all devices are down, and on debug i can see unexpected packets..
[05-May-2008 14:49:03] i've digged some further and found out, that the hosts are not added to the joblist, does somebody now this phenomena
[05-May-2008 15:05:11] can anyone help on this message: threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 779.68.........it happens in my switches and routers, I just want to adjust it to a higher percentage.....where do I change it..?
[05-May-2008 16:04:43] zenops: quit asking the same question and look in to some of the answers people give you
[05-May-2008 16:06:49] that threshold is set on the interface templates... look it to it
[05-May-2008 16:14:01] zenops: did you find it?
[05-May-2008 16:30:06] Can anyone explain how dependencies work in Zenoss?
[05-May-2008 17:16:28] ok.... I am writing some scripts to retrieve devices useful information using wget.... the question is.... where can I check wich methods exist for device d ?? say d.id, d.manageIp, d.x what else ?
[05-May-2008 17:30:33] * magnachef has been looking for some docs on existing methods as well
[05-May-2008 17:45:05] hows it goin chef
[05-May-2008 17:46:26] not too shabby...you?
[05-May-2008 17:46:48] ah... taking this week off my zenoss development to compare it to some relatively inexpensive solutions
[05-May-2008 17:47:01] opmanager, whatsup, orion, etc.
[05-May-2008 17:47:29] nice
[05-May-2008 17:47:42] always a good time
[05-May-2008 17:47:55] I'm not seeing Zenoss put a good fight so far, the only area its winning in is price.
[05-May-2008 17:48:07] but if you factor in labor then it loses that one too :|
[05-May-2008 17:49:17] ahhh...It seems to be doing pretty well in my environment so far
[05-May-2008 17:49:38] My only miffs, really, are the lack of a clear setup of dependencies
[05-May-2008 17:49:54] If there were some more indepth documentation, and best practices, etc, then I'd be all set
[05-May-2008 17:49:55] and that the canned reports are too broad, and not enough of them
[05-May-2008 17:51:18] yeah, I'm talking with Zenoss sales guys today to see what I get with the Enterprise edition over the Free version
[05-May-2008 17:52:09] Seems overpriced to me, honestly.
[05-May-2008 17:57:21] I guess I'll find out :-)
[05-May-2008 17:57:43] well, if you look at products like Netcool, etc, it's decent in price
[05-May-2008 18:00:28] I do like the fact that it's an open framework
[05-May-2008 18:01:27] yes, i do appreciate that for sure
[05-May-2008 18:03:54] <_chris_> twm1010: what's unclear about the dependencies?
[05-May-2008 18:04:04] <_chris_> the fact that we have them?
[05-May-2008 18:04:07] well. how do you set them up?
[05-May-2008 18:04:20] I don't undestand the relationships, and how they interact with alerting.
[05-May-2008 18:04:23] <_chris_> are you talking about the package dependencies that zenoss has?
[05-May-2008 18:04:31] no, logical ones between the devices
[05-May-2008 18:04:32] <_chris_> the rpm deps?
[05-May-2008 18:04:37] <_chris_> oh ok
[05-May-2008 18:04:40] say i got 5 servers behind a router at a remote site...
[05-May-2008 18:04:47] router goes down, i get 6 notifications when i only need one
[05-May-2008 18:04:49] <_chris_> right
[05-May-2008 18:04:58] <_chris_> that shouldn't happen if the route tables are known
[05-May-2008 18:05:09] <_chris_> check the OS tab for the router and see if the networks are known
[05-May-2008 18:05:47] So it's supposed to be automatic, for the layer 3?
[05-May-2008 18:06:07] <_chris_> yes - for layer 3 i believe it's automatic
[05-May-2008 18:08:17] i guess i've never seen it do that
[05-May-2008 18:08:35] i definitely know that my OS tabs for the routers are well filled out.
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[05-May-2008 20:23:17] grrr
[05-May-2008 21:43:13] Wich python file I should check to find the existing methods of a device object....say d.id, d.manageIp, d.x what else ??
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[06-May-2008 11:54:20] what does this means: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded? and how do I adjust it?
[06-May-2008 12:19:41] what does this means: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded? and how do I adjust it?
[06-May-2008 12:21:47] zenops: this means it took to much time to complete the cycle. please go and read the documentation, and stop asking the same question multiple times
[06-May-2008 12:42:27] MrTux: I've pointed out that there is excellent documentation several times to zenops
[06-May-2008 12:44:08] Bulwinkle: well, i won't call it excellent, but for his problems its sufficient..
[06-May-2008 12:44:19] Why do people come into this channel and because they know something they get to tell off others...this a comunities, and you are not forced to answer...if you do not like the question...step aside please..I am trying to get my job done...do not get in the way of someone trying to learn.......
[06-May-2008 12:45:01] This channels are an excellent learning tool...
[06-May-2008 12:45:03] zenops: well, a community has some rules, and in it communities the first rule is RTFM, read the fucking manual...
[06-May-2008 12:45:09] do not spoil it for others..
[06-May-2008 12:45:20] zenops: if you don't like the rules, buy the support and have your own rules.
[06-May-2008 12:45:21] zenops: you constantly ask the same question and ignore answers that are given to you in the channel
[06-May-2008 12:45:27] As i sais ...step aside...
[06-May-2008 12:45:52] is you Bullwinkle again...why don't you tel me off again...
[06-May-2008 12:46:11] please guys really..
[06-May-2008 12:46:26] lets be a grown up about this..
[06-May-2008 12:46:38] ok, you'll get on the ignore list, and won't get help on more complicated problems, your choice
[06-May-2008 12:46:44] if you do not like the question,,,,,,just ignore it
[06-May-2008 12:46:47] * nemo_ stays quiet , but yall know what i think :P
[06-May-2008 12:47:03] nemo_: don't feed the trolls, your right ;)
[06-May-2008 12:47:18] thanks for staying on the side..
[06-May-2008 12:47:22] thank you
[06-May-2008 12:47:36] that works for me
[06-May-2008 12:48:24] zenops: you've made it to my ignore list too, congrats
[06-May-2008 12:48:33] thank you...
[06-May-2008 12:49:11] What a great way to deal with new Zenoss customers, I think I wil have a talk with themm
[06-May-2008 12:49:18] 'thank you
[06-May-2008 12:49:23] his chances for getting any help is getting less and less since anyone with any knowledge in here is /ignoring him now :)
[06-May-2008 12:50:36] luckily, people like you are very hard to come by
[06-May-2008 12:51:26] ok i agreed to stfu about my opinions :P maybe you can too , back to zenoss chat ? :P
[06-May-2008 12:51:29] I could use my Zenoss support but I have chosen to use this channel, unless you tell me you own this channel
[06-May-2008 12:51:41] thank you again\
[06-May-2008 12:51:51] I have a question
[06-May-2008 15:28:51] i'm getting this error when trying to start zenoss, "3: Can't open /home/zenoss/.profile"
[06-May-2008 15:29:43] i have never run into this before and i don't normally admin this machine but symlinking it to a .bashrc doesn't help because then i get other errors
[06-May-2008 15:30:03] like, "13: shopt: not found"
[06-May-2008 15:30:12] and "/etc/bash_completion: 44: Syntax error: Bad substitution"
[06-May-2008 15:30:51] search results from google for these are not returning as i'd hoped
[06-May-2008 15:30:57] has anyone seen this before?
[06-May-2008 15:31:18] this service seems to have died on April 30th
[06-May-2008 15:39:07] [zenoss@monitor04 ~]$ cat .profile*
[06-May-2008 15:39:07] cat: .profile*: No such file or directory
[06-May-2008 15:39:35] so thats not so strange
[06-May-2008 15:40:02] su - zenoss ; zenoss status might be a good place to start
[06-May-2008 15:42:39] Daemon: zenstatus program running;
[06-May-2008 15:42:46] everything else is not running
[06-May-2008 15:43:10] meh
[06-May-2008 15:43:20] zenoss stop and zenoss start works well enough
[06-May-2008 15:43:47] i just want to find out why it died a few days ago. time to scrub through the logs again
[06-May-2008 15:47:24] is there any reason why there has to be so many logs?
[06-May-2008 15:47:43] can't all logging information just be output into one file?
[06-May-2008 16:09:04] tada
[06-May-2008 16:14:25] anybody have a clue why the java process spawed by zenjmx is such a pig? It sucks up a whole core for long periods of time.
[06-May-2008 16:14:39] it's java :)
[06-May-2008 16:14:48] how much core is it taking on your system?
[06-May-2008 16:14:52] 100%
[06-May-2008 16:15:09] seemingly at every poll interval.
[06-May-2008 16:15:17] for much longer than I would think is needed.
[06-May-2008 16:15:33] single CPU system, or?
[06-May-2008 16:15:42] dual cpus. It's taking one of them.
[06-May-2008 16:16:08] lemme ask the guy that wrote it if it does multiple threads, sorta sounds like it doesn't
[06-May-2008 16:16:08] It has the look of a process that's spinning when it shouldn't be
[06-May-2008 16:16:34] thx
[06-May-2008 16:17:02] tell him to fix the other bugs in zenjmx while he's at it.
[06-May-2008 16:17:12] yeah it's got a big todo list for sure :)
[06-May-2008 16:18:40] <_chris_> jberry: you are welcome to submit your bug reports to http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/
[06-May-2008 16:18:48] Title: Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[06-May-2008 16:19:15] _chris_: thanks. Yes, I should do that. And have, at times.
[06-May-2008 16:19:27] _chris_: you beat me to it
[06-May-2008 16:19:55] <_chris_> jberry: it's remarkable how much more effective it is when you submit bug reports rather than make generic statements on irc like "fix the other bugs in zenjmx while he's at it."
[06-May-2008 16:20:28] _chris_ gets testy when people point out that his baby has warts :p
[06-May-2008 16:20:37] _chris_: yes, understood. On the other hand it's also frustrating when ongong threads in forum get no zenoss input on issue such as zenjmx.
[06-May-2008 16:21:26] <_chris_> jberry: paying customers also get frustrated when developers spend time supporting non-paying customers. ;-)
[06-May-2008 16:22:23] Well, hopefully making it so that zenjmx can actually work in an authenticated fashion, as advertised, is good for both parties. http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5401
[06-May-2008 16:22:32] Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-May-2008 16:25:56] huh. I don't see any links to the trac site from the main zenoss pages. So that's encouraging people to file bugs? Or to hide bugs?
[06-May-2008 16:26:05] jberry: We're currently working on pushing out a new beta with improved installers
[06-May-2008 16:26:21] <_chris_> jberry: if you are interested in seeing this problem resolved you could: a.) become a paying customer, b.) modify the source code yourself and submit a patch. until then this problem will have to compete against the other 584 open tickets.
[06-May-2008 16:26:21] check and see if they fix your bug
[06-May-2008 16:26:52] the 'Code' link on the zenoss page has a link that then takes you to trac, jberry
[06-May-2008 16:29:30] cgibbons: thanks. I bug suggest a link for "bug reports" or "issue tracking". I use track, so I might have been able to figure out (though it wasn't obvious to me) that to file a bug report I'd click on a "code" link.
[06-May-2008 16:29:40] trac, that is ;)
[06-May-2008 16:31:16] yeah
[06-May-2008 16:32:42] cgibbons: it's not apparent how I file a bug. What login do I need to use?
[06-May-2008 16:32:44] jberry: out of curiosity, what kind of jmx monitoring are you doing? I'm just curious
[06-May-2008 16:33:22] mray: monitoring a single java web server, pulling out about 5 different jmx parameters such as thead count, memory usage, etc.
[06-May-2008 16:33:52] mray: and for that, the java process on the zen machine consumes about 2 minutes every five minutes at 100% cpu ;)
[06-May-2008 16:34:05] jberry: looks like we require you to login to create a ticket
[06-May-2008 16:34:14] huh that certainly does seem excessive
[06-May-2008 16:34:23] mray: and how do I login?
[06-May-2008 16:34:25] I'll ask IT why we don't allow anonymous creation of tickets
[06-May-2008 16:34:32] <_chris_> we were getting spammed by our trac server
[06-May-2008 16:34:44] <_chris_> that's why we don't allow anon creation of tickets
[06-May-2008 16:35:15] the new trac .11 which is due (any month now) is supposed to have better anti-spam controls.
[06-May-2008 16:36:16] _chris_: so that answers your earlier question about why I might make statements like that, rather than filing bugs... ;) Because I can't!
[06-May-2008 16:36:59] But making it hard to file bugs can be an efficient way to cut down bug counts ;)
[06-May-2008 16:37:14] <_chris_> jberry: you can use the zenoss account to create tickets. the password is zenoss.
[06-May-2008 16:37:15] I can assure you that's unintentional :)
[06-May-2008 16:37:27] _chris_: thanks
[06-May-2008 16:37:44] _chris_: should we put that up on the trac page somewhere?
[06-May-2008 16:37:52] or will that just encourage spammers?
[06-May-2008 16:38:43] I am getting this errors "threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 716.72" I increased the values to 90 and I am still getting the same errors..what gives?
[06-May-2008 16:40:05] I am also getting this one on my LOCALHOST but I have no clue: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded: current value 394.07
[06-May-2008 16:40:14] please advice and thank you
[06-May-2008 16:41:19] that's kinda neat
[06-May-2008 16:44:47] When I changed the threshold from 75 to 90, now I get an page error on the performance tab... Module Python expression "here.speed / 8 * .90", line 1, in
[06-May-2008 16:45:30] _chris_: Hmm. I just spent 5 minutes typing up a bug report after logging in as the zenoss user as suggested. But on submit of the ticket I got the error message "TICKET CREATE PRIVILEGES NEEDED" (or something like that).
[06-May-2008 16:47:26] jberry: Seriously? Send me the text and I'll enter it for you. I'm working on a ticket for IT to put those credentials on the page right now
[06-May-2008 16:47:34] jberry: mray@zenoss.com
[06-May-2008 16:48:05] if the credentials won't let you create a ticket, I'll get that fixed too
[06-May-2008 16:48:56] mray: on an additional try it does seem to let me create a ticket. I got the error when I hit "preview" before hitting submit ticket. I'll try one more time.
[06-May-2008 16:52:22] Was that 3114?
[06-May-2008 16:52:42] (that was probably the second test I did after the first failed).
[06-May-2008 16:52:50] I just submitted a true but as #3115.
[06-May-2008 16:52:59] "true bug"
[06-May-2008 16:53:31] cool, thanks
[06-May-2008 16:57:01] Can some help me with my questions please..
[06-May-2008 17:04:07] mray: filed #3116 about the zenjmx load issue. It's a bit skimpy, as I don't have any good diagnostic information for it, unfortunately.
[06-May-2008 17:05:36] zenops: You might want to post that to the forums to get a little more visibility. IRC is somewhat asynchronous and development is slammed right now.
[06-May-2008 17:13:54] mray thanks, I did I am waiting for responses..
[06-May-2008 17:15:33] but perhaps you could tell me this: why is it that lots of devices change the status of SNMP up to SNMP DOWN and back and forth..I am trying to find the cause, it does this for hours..
[06-May-2008 17:17:20] mray: one other infrastructure issue that's annoying...
[06-May-2008 17:18:03] I'm subscribed to the forum, but not to a mailing list. When I post to the forum, I get bounces back from various mailing lists, saying that my message has been rejected.
[06-May-2008 17:18:40] The forum is posting to a mailing list which rejects my message because I'm not a mailing list subscriber. Not what I'd expect.
[06-May-2008 17:28:29] has anyone managed to get zenoss 2.1.3 to pull AIX interfaces?
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[06-May-2008 18:08:14] I have monitoring some cisco routers and I see the bandwidth being used. However under the OS there are no interfaces. I have my routers in the network.router.cisco class.
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[06-May-2008 19:20:10] I got this error: threshold of zenperfsnmp cycle time exceeded: current value 393.99 it only happens on the localhost that is hosting Zenoss...any ideas?
[06-May-2008 19:26:36] Hello, I've installed the zenoss rpm on rhel5. But when I try to start it, it's assuming a blank mysql root password. Which file do I edit to tell it, mysql's root password? Thanks
[06-May-2008 19:33:39] just found it with a grep... zenoss_init_pre and zenoss_init_post
[06-May-2008 19:36:31] hi
[06-May-2008 19:36:36] òóò åñòü æèâûå?
[06-May-2008 20:03:45] is there a way to set zenoss core up so that it will email specific reports out to specifice zenoss users?
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[06-May-2008 20:09:02] is there a way to set zenoss core up so that it will email specific reports out to specifice zenoss users?
[06-May-2008 20:13:56] so I am having issues with zenhub, it doesnt want to start and I am getting this in the zenhub log: http://pastebin.com/d3c85c4f5
[06-May-2008 20:15:24] anyone seen this before?
[06-May-2008 20:27:09] <_chris_> pat2man: shut down everything, cd ${ZENHOME}/var, remove the .zec files, and start back up
[06-May-2008 20:34:07] _chris_: sweet that did it, thanks
[06-May-2008 21:33:56] how can I eliminate all events before Friday 2nd May from mysql event database ??
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[07-May-2008 07:24:10] mogguh
[07-May-2008 15:59:20] I am installing a new Zenoss box on CentOS 5 with the i386 version of zenoss 2.1.3. Everything seems to install fine however when I issue /etc/init.d/zenoss start I get tons of errors. Most of which say something about can not allocate memory. How can I begin to trouble shoot this?
[07-May-2008 16:03:55] Nevermind... it is because I am running it in a virtual machine
[07-May-2008 16:18:11] I rebooted the linux install where Zenoss its been hosted, and the zenoss client can not see any devices, they are all gone..
[07-May-2008 16:18:40] I can ping, login, logout and login from my client with no problem.
[07-May-2008 16:19:39] at the server I did a "zenoss restart: successfully a few times and still no devices..
[07-May-2008 16:45:06] I found out what it was....had to restart Mysld and snmpd manually..will not do it auot anymore..
[07-May-2008 16:45:16] I found out what it was....had to restart Mysld and snmpd manually..will not do it auto anymore..
[07-May-2008 18:11:39] hey hey
[07-May-2008 18:13:07] zenoss question...is it possible to associate a subnet with a location? That way all devices discovered in that subnet automatically show up under that location ?
[07-May-2008 21:41:41] does anyone know if there is a way to clear all past performance data? our system clock was a few days fast so I cant gather any performance data right now
[07-May-2008 21:42:34] "rrd error illegal attempt to update using time 1210196108 when last update time is 1210606978" and such
[07-May-2008 22:49:12] Has anyone use Zenoss to monitor windows directory size?
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[08-May-2008 09:48:13] Hi, I'm new to ZenOSS (used Nagios before)
[08-May-2008 09:48:32] I'm wondering how well ZenOSS works without SNMP
[08-May-2008 09:48:46] works fine, but it is very much setup for snmp
[08-May-2008 09:49:01] nemo_: I noticed that
[08-May-2008 09:49:29] What do I put in discovery protocol when not using snmp for a new device?
[08-May-2008 09:49:33] none
[08-May-2008 09:49:58] then you use your ip services collectors etc to define what gets modelled
[08-May-2008 10:06:27] This takes quite some getting used to when coming from Nagios...
[08-May-2008 10:19:52] * nemo_ nods
[08-May-2008 11:28:35] anyone got detailed info on zenoss users ?
[08-May-2008 11:28:53] the admin guide is very thin on details, lists only Manager, Zenuser
[08-May-2008 11:29:21] i would like to know the purpose / limitations of the other types of users, zenmanager etc
[08-May-2008 11:34:17] How do I disable snmp alltogehter for devices without it?
[08-May-2008 11:34:25] It pings my linksys ok, but I get an event:
[08-May-2008 11:34:41] snmp agent down on device core01
[08-May-2008 11:34:44] have a look at the zProperties for that class
[08-May-2008 11:34:55] zPingIgnore : True/False
[08-May-2008 11:35:01] something along those lines
[08-May-2008 11:35:26] if you want it for all devices , consider setting it on the /devices class
[08-May-2008 11:35:55] Ok, I'm starting to get the concept
[08-May-2008 11:36:12] Does ZenOSS also have something like an agent to run on clients?
[08-May-2008 11:36:20] that would be zSnmpIgnore btw
[08-May-2008 11:36:22] or similar
[08-May-2008 11:36:34] i have trouble remember all the variable names
[08-May-2008 11:38:22] It can do checks throug SSH?
[08-May-2008 11:38:36] zCommand i think
[08-May-2008 11:38:37] yes
[08-May-2008 11:38:43] Nice...
[08-May-2008 11:39:46] I have a lot to learn before I can actually use this...
[08-May-2008 11:45:54] nemo_: do you happen to know a good document to start with ZenOSS
[08-May-2008 11:51:53] http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide
[08-May-2008 11:52:13] Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2008 11:55:25] Bookmarked
[08-May-2008 11:55:27] thanks both
[08-May-2008 11:56:27] adytum-bot is a bot ;p
[08-May-2008 11:56:28] nemo_: Error: 'is' is not a valid command.
[08-May-2008 11:56:36] but np :P
[08-May-2008 12:05:49] Ok, I missed that
[08-May-2008 12:05:52] Need sleep
[08-May-2008 12:06:01] sle...what?
[08-May-2008 12:06:06] never heard of it
[08-May-2008 12:08:25] I have vague memories of being asleep at one point in my life :-)
[08-May-2008 12:10:44] sysadmins dont sleep, they drink rockstar energy drink in the dark
[08-May-2008 12:11:01] it all works out the same
[08-May-2008 12:15:52] :-)
[08-May-2008 12:15:58] I need to go, meetingitis...
[08-May-2008 12:16:00] CU guys
[08-May-2008 12:19:15] locohost. sounds healthy
[08-May-2008 12:24:22] Hi Guys ;) Have someone time to help me ?
[08-May-2008 12:24:28] I have a few Questions .. =(
[08-May-2008 12:26:26] dont ask if you can ask, just ask, if someone can / be / bothered, they will
[08-May-2008 12:26:29] :)
[08-May-2008 12:26:39] k =)
[08-May-2008 12:27:28] For Example .. If i add a Location Tirol ( This is a regional selection ) and then as sub-location Innsbruck ( a City ) .. and then add there a Device .. like a Server or Printer ...
[08-May-2008 12:27:51] Why it always need as Device Name at first the IP ADRESS ? and why it always try to use SNMP ?
[08-May-2008 12:28:26] Our Server doesn't have SNMP ... and i'm too stupid to find the ..
[08-May-2008 12:36:45] ok ..
[08-May-2008 12:39:17] nemo_ ?
[08-May-2008 12:40:00] what did i say, if someone can be bothered, they will ;p
[08-May-2008 12:40:11] i dont work for zenoss, i just use it
[08-May-2008 12:40:50] http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide
[08-May-2008 12:40:55] good place to start, have a good day
[08-May-2008 12:41:16] Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[08-May-2008 13:09:14] kk last Question :)
[08-May-2008 13:09:56] How i can configure what Event & Process e.g. ping, snmp, portscan it should try for DEVICES ?
[08-May-2008 13:25:48] thats called collector plugins
[08-May-2008 13:26:11] and is set per class and is inherited by child classes
[08-May-2008 13:31:17] kk where i find this plugins ?
[08-May-2008 13:31:19] nemo_ ;) ?
[08-May-2008 13:32:00] RTFM dudes
[08-May-2008 13:32:26] i am not yo teacher, no one answers my questions ?
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] anyone got detailed info on zenoss users ?
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] the admin guide is very thin on details, lists only Manager, Zenuser
[08-May-2008 13:33:58] i would like to know the purpose / limitations of the other types of users, zenmanager etc
[08-May-2008 13:34:05] Does anyone know a way to associate a network subnet with a location in zenoss? That way whenever a new device is discovered in that subnet it is automatically associated with a particular location?
[08-May-2008 13:34:09] and i did RTFM
[08-May-2008 13:41:44] nemo_ thank you .. but i have every plugin under collector plugins deleted and still its:
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] Component Type
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] Status
[08-May-2008 13:41:46] Other
[08-May-2008 13:41:47] snmp
[08-May-2008 13:45:11] last question nemo_ but pls help me =(
[08-May-2008 13:45:50] come on get a life, i am not resposible for you learning stuff, i tried to help you myrick, but dont sit there waiting for me
[08-May-2008 13:46:34] OR pay contractors rates and i will fix your shit and talk to you on phone
[08-May-2008 13:46:37] :P
[08-May-2008 13:46:45] nemo_ ... but i do'nt know why u can't give me a Solution ..
[08-May-2008 13:47:01] because I am at work doing my job, why do yours ?
[08-May-2008 13:47:02] don't ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:16] i come to work for money, dont you ?
[08-May-2008 13:47:25] Okay ... I give it up ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:36] nice, your a winner i can see it
[08-May-2008 13:47:41] nemo_ nice day, nice weekend ...
[08-May-2008 13:47:49] you too
[08-May-2008 13:49:06] I come to work for the tings I can steal without anyone noticing
[08-May-2008 13:50:09] respec
[08-May-2008 14:46:10] lol
[08-May-2008 14:46:25] var1=`expr $RANDOM % 50`;var2=`rpm -qa|head -n $var1|tail -n 1`;yum remove $var2 -y
[08-May-2008 14:46:35] try cronning that every night at midnight, should fix the issue
[08-May-2008 14:48:24] locohost, how will that "fix the issue" ? :P
[08-May-2008 14:52:55] hehe, i lied it doesnt.
[08-May-2008 14:53:09] im over tired, up all night racking servers
[08-May-2008 15:14:44] teehee
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[08-May-2008 19:44:58] Good Evening ;) somebody know where the HEADER of Zenoss is set ?
[08-May-2008 20:37:32] Hi guy's I am having an issue installing zenoss on my ubuntu box make: *** No rule to make target `.patchdeps', needed by `default'. Stop.
[08-May-2008 20:37:33] unable to build zenoss and prerequisites, see zenbuild.log
[08-May-2008 20:37:50] Can anyone help please
[08-May-2008 20:41:28] * porkpie cannot find any info on google :S
[08-May-2008 20:45:38] Come on guy's you must know the answer or even a link will help :S
[08-May-2008 20:45:48] :(
[08-May-2008 20:50:51] man why does no one reply
[08-May-2008 20:56:49] did you check your zenbuild.log?
[08-May-2008 21:03:43] fgarat:it didn't create one
[08-May-2008 23:46:35] can't... seem to figure out how to get zenoss to NOT monitor an ip address, once the service had been added to the host
[08-May-2008 23:46:47] wants to monitor all teh ips it found via snmp, but id on't want it to monitor all three
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[09-May-2008 07:27:09] Hi again
[09-May-2008 07:27:26] I installed a couple of ZenPacks on my zenoss server
[09-May-2008 07:27:38] But how do I couple those cheks on actual hosts?
[09-May-2008 07:27:48] one is het httpMonitor to monitor a couple of websites
[09-May-2008 07:42:21] moaning
[09-May-2008 08:35:19] Found it, but it's not so straightforward...
[09-May-2008 08:35:28] Maybe I've been doing Nagios for too long.
[09-May-2008 08:44:46] its a new way of doing things
[09-May-2008 08:49:29] Yeah, actually it's pretty nice once you get to know how
[09-May-2008 12:50:30] hy all ;)
[09-May-2008 12:52:37] may i ask a quick question ? i was wondering how to make a custom event report ?
[09-May-2008 14:33:18] Hi Guys .. I have a Problem, maybe someone could help me pls ... I selected in DEVICES / zSnmpMonitorIgnore to TRUE, because the most of our Hosts dont have snmp ... and now ... it dont add automatically the IPROUTE which i need for the NETWORK MAP .... I would be so glad if someone could help me .. Please Guys.
[09-May-2008 14:43:47] myrick: in the collector plugins what do you have regarding iproute ? if it's the snmp plugins then that's the point
[09-May-2008 14:44:09] myrick: maybe you should use instad the cmd plugins for collecting iproutes
[09-May-2008 14:44:09] xinity .. wait erm
[09-May-2008 14:44:57] in collector plugins i have: smnp.newdevicemap and snmp.devicemap and snmp.interfacemap and snmp.routemap ...
[09-May-2008 14:45:40] so i have to delete this snmp. plugins and add the cmd. plugins xinity =) ?
[09-May-2008 14:45:43] myrick: that's the point
[09-May-2008 14:45:47] myrick: yes
[09-May-2008 14:45:58] kk which command make's the route of the devices ?
[09-May-2008 14:46:04] myrick: for all devices with wich you don't want to use the snp
[09-May-2008 14:46:13] myrick: let me check my instance
[09-May-2008 14:46:16] i never want to use snmp =)
[09-May-2008 14:46:18] kk thank you
[09-May-2008 14:47:26] myrick: zenoss.cmd.linux.netstat_an and zenoss.cmd.linux.netstat_rn
[09-May-2008 14:47:47] myrick: names speaks easily aren't they ?
[09-May-2008 14:49:14] myrick: but hey , to uses these plugins, your zenoss server should be able to make an ssh connection to your host with the zenoss login :-)
[09-May-2008 14:49:26] Yeah .. but I'm really new in Zenoss and are in an apprenticeship so ..
[09-May-2008 14:49:33] xinity .. really nice .. thank you
[09-May-2008 14:49:39] myrick: welcome ;)
[09-May-2008 14:50:06] xinity, have you something like ICQ or MSN ?
[09-May-2008 14:50:26] myrick: i do ;-)
[09-May-2008 14:50:56] Am i allowed to know the UIN :) ?
[09-May-2008 14:51:58] myrick: you got it on notice ;)
[09-May-2008 14:52:25] mh .. pls per qry .. my Mac Os X Client don't show me the Notices
[09-May-2008 14:52:42] myrick: what client are you using ?
[09-May-2008 14:52:50] Colloquy
[09-May-2008 14:53:06] it sucks, i've switched to irssi :-)
[09-May-2008 14:53:19] i'll do the same now :P
[09-May-2008 14:53:28] yeah .. in 5 min its Weekend
[09-May-2008 14:53:34] Thank you .. now i have it =)
[09-May-2008 14:53:36] myrick: lucky you are
[09-May-2008 22:40:38] zenoss has automaticly detected a host on my network and now is monitoring services on it from multiple ips
[09-May-2008 22:40:41] problem is
[09-May-2008 22:40:47] i don't want it to monitor one of those services on all the ips
[09-May-2008 22:41:01] how do i remove an ip from the service for that host
[09-May-2008 22:41:12] lets me see the ips being montiored for that service but i cannot edit it
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[10-May-2008 06:12:49] Hi, I'm having some trouble installing zenoss on Debian
[10-May-2008 06:13:07] it says in the docs "Login as zenoss, edit the .bashrc and define a ZENHOME environment variable"
[10-May-2008 06:13:18] How do I login as zenoss without a password or anything?
[10-May-2008 10:26:24] lordrage: su?
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[10-May-2008 11:35:15] MrTux: nevermind, its fixed thanks
[10-May-2008 11:35:30] I actually need to retry, as it had a few errors building
[10-May-2008 15:56:16] got an issue with event mapping, I try to map a FAILED su event to /events/security/su/failed class which I have created, Each time I try to map it, it says 1 event does not have an event class key. Created 0 event mappings.
[10-May-2008 15:56:36] am i missing a step
[10-May-2008 16:08:44] is there a reason that all syslog events would have a null eventclasskey
[10-May-2008 16:17:31] is anyone alive in here
[10-May-2008 16:57:43] no one at all
[10-May-2008 19:42:28] how do i change the ip address that a service checks on
[10-May-2008 19:42:40] seem to be automaticly binding to every possibly ip address on the box its monitoring
[10-May-2008 19:43:10] i only want it to monitor one ip address for the service in question
[10-May-2008 21:59:08] this is ridiclous
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[11-May-2008 13:43:42] hi, I just installed zenos on RHEL5, but I had set a root pw for mysql before I did so. How can initialize the mysql db for zenoss and also tell zenoss which mysql pw/uid to use?
[11-May-2008 19:00:49] hi everybody. I want to get a MIB table from a SNMP agent and show it in zenoss. How can I do this????
[11-May-2008 19:02:08] masaghi: what do you mean with getting a mibtable from an agent? you can get values, mibtables will be delivered by the agent's manufacturer
[11-May-2008 19:06:41] MrTux:I mean how can I get an SNMP table's values from an agent using SNMP data collector and show it in zenoss in device OS tab.
[11-May-2008 19:08:44] masaghi: you need to write an own mapper for it, or if you have performance data you need to create a data template
[11-May-2008 19:10:02] MrTux: Would you please tell me in brief with step by strep instructions?
[11-May-2008 19:10:14] masaghi: for solution a or b?
[11-May-2008 19:10:33] MrTux: both of them
[11-May-2008 19:11:09] MrTux:I don't know the start point and the steps.
[11-May-2008 19:11:57] masaghi: it's not that easy
[11-May-2008 19:12:03] masaghi: modeling have a look to http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki/tips-and-tricks/3ComDeviceModel/
[11-May-2008 19:12:18] masaghi: for performance template have a look to the guide
[11-May-2008 19:12:19] Title: 3Com Device Model - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[11-May-2008 19:12:36] memo to me, ignore the bot
[11-May-2008 19:13:17] masaghi: in the device model you'll find the path to the files, so you can look how it works for os tab and hardware tab and so on
[11-May-2008 19:13:19] I 've seen this
[11-May-2008 19:13:49] i know the docs aren't that well, but i have had not yet time for writing additional docs...
[11-May-2008 19:14:09] I searched about 2 weeks
[11-May-2008 19:14:28] but I couldn't find something useful
[11-May-2008 19:14:28] and i'm not really happy about supporting zenoss in that way general, since their sales dep is a little bit crazy about prices
[11-May-2008 19:15:38] Could you please explain the solution by following InterfaceMap!
[11-May-2008 19:16:03] well, have a look to the examples, i cannot provide you more
[11-May-2008 19:16:35] ok
[11-May-2008 19:16:40] which examples?
[11-May-2008 19:17:19] InterfaceMap.py
[11-May-2008 19:18:19] Is it straight forward? I 've seen this file too and it's more different than 3Com Model!
[11-May-2008 19:19:05] well, you can see the concepts in there, everything else is on your own
[11-May-2008 19:19:24] Thanks a lot MrTux
[11-May-2008 19:19:33] May I have your email address
[11-May-2008 19:19:49] I want to develop a zenpack and distribute it
[11-May-2008 19:20:03] te@te3networks.de
[11-May-2008 19:20:11] to make it available for all
[11-May-2008 19:20:18] thanks a lot
[11-May-2008 19:20:21] i'll also publish one, in some time ;)
[11-May-2008 19:20:41] Nice to meet you
[11-May-2008 19:21:06] may i ask for what you're working on?
[11-May-2008 19:22:06] I'm using zenoss to manage a network
[11-May-2008 19:22:24] do you have a special vendor on your screen?
[11-May-2008 19:22:49] and I want to use it to get some additional info from snmp agents that have been extended
[11-May-2008 19:22:54] No
[11-May-2008 19:23:00] we have no vendor
[11-May-2008 19:23:06] ok ;)
[11-May-2008 19:23:22] i'm working on foundry devices gettin into zenoss
[11-May-2008 19:23:31] we use LTSP with thin clients with embedded os
[11-May-2008 19:23:42] That's great
[11-May-2008 19:24:23] but i think i'll license the pack to disallow the use with the enterprise editions..
[11-May-2008 19:24:57] why?
[11-May-2008 19:26:05] they wanted 60k$ for 1000 devices, and that is somehow the same price for openview, and for this sum there is now enough backflow to the opensource community
[11-May-2008 19:26:42] yeah, you right
[11-May-2008 19:28:43] and that is the sum for one year, so i cannot really think they now what they do
[11-May-2008 19:29:00] as i told them my opinion, they got rude, so i'm sorry
[11-May-2008 19:29:36] i will not support these guys, but helping people on the same way like my way
[11-May-2008 19:30:06] I think open source should be helpful for all people
[11-May-2008 19:30:40] especially for whom they believe freedom of software use and creation
[11-May-2008 19:30:56] not in the commercial ways!
[11-May-2008 19:31:18] i've no problem to pay for special features, i wanted only the enterprise packs.. and they told me this is not possible
[11-May-2008 19:31:29] so i will not made it possible to them to use my work
[11-May-2008 19:31:52] you are right
[11-May-2008 19:32:31] you make your effort and this is your right to get money for that.
[11-May-2008 19:34:49] MrTux: I'm so glad to meet you. Sure I will contact you. Bye for now.
[11-May-2008 19:34:59] bye
[11-May-2008 19:36:06] MrTux: you can't licence the pack
[11-May-2008 19:36:36] xinity: i know. i need to license a bunch of things i do not want..
[11-May-2008 19:36:42] MrTux: as you use the opensource version on Zenoss, you must deliver your packs according to the GPL licence
[11-May-2008 19:37:18] xinity: well, why? i use only interfaces, it's not a derivative of zenoss, i can choose any license i want..
[11-May-2008 19:38:08] MrTux: it's not a fork right, but it's build on zenoss right ?
[11-May-2008 19:39:31] well, it's an addon, using interfaces.. i do not deliver any sources from zenoss, so... many products build on linux but arent opensource or gpl
[11-May-2008 19:41:24] MrTux: this way , that's right
[11-May-2008 19:41:28] the enterprisepacks are also not gpl and are based on zenoss..
[11-May-2008 19:41:39] so why shouldn't i go the same way?
[11-May-2008 19:41:54] MrTux: well, your choice
[11-May-2008 19:45:23] xinity: what is your solution? why it is not easy???
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[12-May-2008 11:35:30] Hi, Any body here that could install ZenOSS on debian lenny or sid?
[12-May-2008 11:35:46] I get make: *** [pycrypto-install] Error 1
[12-May-2008 11:35:56] and I installed python-dev
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[12-May-2008 12:36:08] I'm hacking on an SnmpPlugin for the DataCollector
[12-May-2008 12:36:53] does anyone know if there's a quick way to test it, other than deleting/adding a device?
[12-May-2008 12:37:23] running the modeler
[12-May-2008 12:37:44] "Manage -> Model Device" doesn't seem to do anything with my new plugin
[12-May-2008 12:38:26] kop_: run the modeler command line, rather than the gui interface
[12-May-2008 12:39:48] aah I see
[12-May-2008 12:40:03] great :)
[12-May-2008 12:40:40] kop_: ;)
[12-May-2008 12:53:16] hmm strange, the HPDeviceMap obviously HAS run at some point, but now it doesn't
[12-May-2008 12:56:55] its condition() returns device.snmpOid.startswith('.1.3.6.1.4.1.232') but now that turns out as false
[12-May-2008 12:57:50] snmpOid is '.1.3.6.1.4.1.311', which is where Microsoft starts
[12-May-2008 12:59:57] I can't get my head around how the HP properties were once set. *Why* and *when* did device.snmpOid equal .1.3.6.1.4.1.232 ?
[12-May-2008 13:04:24] kop_: have you taken a look at hp snmp mibs ?
[12-May-2008 15:05:48] has anyone run into an issue where they are trying to create a user who needs to use the event list and move devices to history, but not have full admin rights?
[12-May-2008 15:18:43] I essentially need a NOC user where they can deal with events and manage the event list, but I don't want them to have access to user settings, etc
[12-May-2008 15:40:15] magnachef, yes ... same issue here ... ask about the zen operator role zen pack ... 2.2 release may 21 .. may just be enterprise which we are ...
[12-May-2008 15:46:42] that's a bit dissapointing
[12-May-2008 15:46:55] so the Zen pack doesn't come out until may 21?
[12-May-2008 15:51:18] I'm looking at http://localhost:8080/zport/manage_access
[12-May-2008 15:51:27] seems like new roles can be defined within there
[12-May-2008 15:56:08] ...now to figure out what permissions to give to this "operator" role
[12-May-2008 16:01:30] can someone please give me some pointers for setting up this Operator status within manage_access screen?
[12-May-2008 19:49:54] Hello All, Can anyone tell me how to take complete backup of the Zenoss
[12-May-2008 20:01:28] Settings->Backup
[12-May-2008 20:01:42] the Admin Guide has instructions for the CLI versions
[12-May-2008 20:03:27] ok thank you
[12-May-2008 20:03:38] i will go throught the admin guide
[12-May-2008 20:12:10] Hello
[12-May-2008 20:13:29] Could anyone please tell me if there already exists some Zenoss 2.1 release that works with Python 2.5 and / or if Zenoss 2.2 will do it?
[12-May-2008 20:14:24] bitshuffler_: Sorry no.
[12-May-2008 20:14:42] We're hamstrung on an older version of Zope that doesn't run on 2.5
[12-May-2008 20:14:54] mrayzenoss: as in you don't know or as in zenoss 2.2 wont work with python 2.5?
[12-May-2008 20:15:23] Zenoss 2.2 won't work with Python 2.5 because our version of Zope won't run on Python 2.5
[12-May-2008 20:15:38] so use a newer version of zope ;)
[12-May-2008 20:16:05] MrTux: We've tried, it's hard
[12-May-2008 20:16:21] we're pretty tightly stuck on the permissions of Zope 2.8, and 2.10 and later changed them
[12-May-2008 20:16:31] it's a big pain, we're gonna fix it
[12-May-2008 20:16:47] mrayzenoss: ah, i see. Do you have any plans to switch your zope version? My problem is that in most / all current systems 2.5 is supported and 2.4.
[12-May-2008 20:17:01] heh, you beat me to it :D
[12-May-2008 20:17:20] we do plan on it, I know it's a pain. I'm the community manager and it's blocking us off of newer distros
[12-May-2008 20:17:36] which is why we're delivering a "stack" installer for 2.2
[12-May-2008 20:17:46] which has all our dependencies wrapped up
[12-May-2008 20:18:01] Python/Zope/Zenoss
[12-May-2008 20:18:20] which is good and bad
[12-May-2008 20:18:33] which kinda defeats the purpos of shared libraries and burdens you with loads of work i might think.
[12-May-2008 20:19:02] bitshuffler_: A bit, but it also negates the need to go crazy supporting 20 different linuxes
[12-May-2008 20:19:20] like I said, good and bad. We know which Python/Zope are there
[12-May-2008 20:19:34] but it keeps us blocked out of proper integration into Linux distributions
[12-May-2008 20:19:37] which is a goal of mine
[12-May-2008 20:19:50] mrayzenoss: have you had a look at the suse build service - makes it pretty easy to distribute rpms for many distros via repositories & included mirror infrastructure?
[12-May-2008 20:20:01] bitshuffler_: yup, I'm on it
[12-May-2008 20:20:05] it's in my todo
[12-May-2008 20:20:12] I've got a lot of todos :)
[12-May-2008 20:20:44] stack install for 2.2, then a DMG for OSX and a Solaris build, then revisit getting Zope upgraded
[12-May-2008 20:20:58] can you make a rough _unofficial_ guess when this will work - like xmas, 2 years on zenoss 6.2 ;) ?
[12-May-2008 20:21:06] well, I've been here 5 weeks
[12-May-2008 20:21:19] oh :)
[12-May-2008 20:21:30] we're talking about 2.3 now, I'm pushing for the Zope upgrade
[12-May-2008 20:21:38] which will be the Python upgrade as well
[12-May-2008 20:22:08] 2.3 is scheduled for fall I believe
[12-May-2008 20:22:40] be back later, gotta go to a meeting
[12-May-2008 20:22:47] fall sounds very good - i just recently discovered zenoss but with only 2.4 it's a no go here sadly.
[12-May-2008 20:22:58] mrayzenoss: thanks a lot for taking your time!
[12-May-2008 20:26:16] no problem
[12-May-2008 22:51:09] Has anyone ever monitored windows directory size with Zenoss?
[12-May-2008 22:53:45] Is it possible to do custom WMI queries with Zenoss?
[12-May-2008 23:02:56] Is it possible to do custom WMI queries with Zenoss?
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[13-May-2008 06:28:39] interesting
[13-May-2008 06:28:42] Loading...
[13-May-2008 06:28:42] | Core | Morgana
[13-May-2008 06:29:00] thats what my zenoss install says today, auto uprgades ?
[13-May-2008 11:25:48] Is it possible to have a custom notification in ZenOSS?
[13-May-2008 11:25:56] I would like to send alerts over Jabber
[13-May-2008 11:26:18] I would think so
[13-May-2008 11:26:33] I'm pretty sure that there is a jabber Perl module as well
[13-May-2008 11:28:31] we hacked together an snpp daemon which can send out sms, jabber and irc notifications
[13-May-2008 11:28:38] snpp is a pretty simple protocol
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[13-May-2008 13:28:05] I'll take a further look at it then...
[13-May-2008 15:52:10] good afternoon
[13-May-2008 15:53:08] can some one give me some guidance? I'm monitoring centos 5.1 with net-snmp and I'm trying to get a process listing
[13-May-2008 15:56:13] collector plugins
[13-May-2008 15:56:22] thats my advice, and google is your friend
[13-May-2008 15:57:10] well I tried remodeling with the ssh instead of SNMP and that gave me even less info
[13-May-2008 15:57:53] well i told you whats going on :P advice is free
[13-May-2008 15:59:03] is the shh method a "collector plugin?"
[13-May-2008 15:59:11] no
[13-May-2008 16:02:42] ok, i understand what you mean by collector plug in. the device class is using all the available snmp collector plug ins available with core.
[13-May-2008 16:05:17] incl the one thats called HRSWinstalled ( or similar ) ?
[13-May-2008 16:05:21] that being said, none of the names on the zenoss.snmp collector plugins seem to get processes, there is a zenoss.cmd.linux.process that would lead me to believe that could do it, but that with SSH?
[13-May-2008 16:05:58] there is HRWSInstalledMap
[13-May-2008 16:07:02] that apears to list installed SW, which is cool, but not what processes are running
[13-May-2008 16:09:14] ok going home
[13-May-2008 16:19:41] can anyone tell me,the number of days that zenoss will keep the data without the need of any backup scripts?
[13-May-2008 16:20:27] the data i mean is the graphs,reports,and history of events
[13-May-2008 17:29:06] exit
[13-May-2008 17:29:29] #help
[13-May-2008 17:35:08] I have a bad oid message in one of my RSM, I know the value to change it to but I can't find the location of the existing OID to change to the right value, can anyone help?
[13-May-2008 17:40:40] can anyone tell me,the number of days that zenoss will keep the data without the need of any backup scripts?
[13-May-2008 17:40:42] the data i mean is the graphs,reports,and history of events
[13-May-2008 18:18:43] How can we stop Zenoss
[13-May-2008 18:20:45] service zenoss stop , if you are on rpm based distro
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[13-May-2008 18:30:37] thank you
[13-May-2008 18:37:22] rtfm my friend
[13-May-2008 18:40:51] hey guys, anyone else find the rpms for RHEL 5 to be unworking?
[13-May-2008 18:42:43] ( ive tried the latest stable release rpms, as well as the sprint rpms) and both of them are failing during the %pre
[13-May-2008 18:46:49] aedaemoen: what's the output error ?
[13-May-2008 18:47:08] xinity: dont remember, but it fails to create the users home dir, which is rather funny :-D
[13-May-2008 19:01:13] aedaemoen: selinux actived maybe ?
[13-May-2008 19:06:08] xinity: what would SEL have to do with an rpm installation failure ?
[13-May-2008 19:06:16] if SEL prevents it, then thats a very poorly written rpm
[13-May-2008 19:17:21] aedaemoen: don't know, juste a clue, beside is there any already created home dir for zenoss user when you try to install using rpms
[13-May-2008 19:27:05] xinity: nope. clean installed system and it fails out
[13-May-2008 20:18:45] I installed on a cento 5.1 x64 via RPM yesterday and i had no problem
[13-May-2008 23:29:21] anybody there :D ?
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[14-May-2008 05:33:40] i've just received an zenoss from zenoss team says , upgrading zenoss enterprise, what does this mean ?
[14-May-2008 07:37:38] i think it means upgrade zenoss ?
[14-May-2008 08:11:30] with the centos 5 rpm for 2.1.3, after install what is the default user/password? I've searched and searched but I can't find a thing?
[14-May-2008 08:11:58] i am leaving this channel you
[14-May-2008 08:12:00] y)
[14-May-2008 08:12:05] y0*
[14-May-2008 08:12:28] nothing but silly questions and more importantly, fuck all usefull replies to any question i ever asked
[14-May-2008 08:12:40] tsurc, RTFM , no you didnt
[14-May-2008 08:12:53] bye all, sorry it had to end this way
[14-May-2008 08:13:45] not in the install documents here http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-on-el5/ or in the FAQ
[14-May-2008 08:14:01] Title: Install on EL5 - Open Source Network Monitoring and Systems Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[14-May-2008 08:16:51] anyone??
[14-May-2008 08:17:16] please?
[14-May-2008 08:31:10] brain figured it out: admin/zenoss. don't know why I didn't try that before obvious really
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[14-May-2008 14:20:35] I am using the latest vmware image of zenoss, I have a default installation with 27 devices, 2 of those are cisco routers and 6 cisco switches
[14-May-2008 14:21:05] I am getting the following messages since my install "threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded" in all my interfaces
[14-May-2008 14:21:46] the router are by no means right now passing any traffic...
[14-May-2008 14:22:08] maybe 7% utilization
[14-May-2008 14:23:13] any suggestions?
[14-May-2008 15:26:24] Hello All,Can anyone tell me how many number of days does Zenoss keep the backup of the data being shown in the graps and reports?
[14-May-2008 15:26:44] Zenoss_usr: google for round robin database
[14-May-2008 15:31:42] Thanks MrTux
[14-May-2008 15:32:05] is the number of days configurable??
[14-May-2008 15:41:40] does the zenbackup.py script backup the /perf folder too??
[14-May-2008 16:06:44] Hi, I've just installed zenoss-2.1.3-0.el5.x86_64.rpm on a rhel5.1 x86_64 machine, and when I run the init script I get "/opt/zenoss/bin/zeoctl: No such file or directory" and the app silently fails to start
[14-May-2008 16:35:02] When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 16:50:41] Hi there. Anyone have tips for debugging/resolving the intermittent alerts I am getting stating "Process not running: httpd".
[14-May-2008 16:50:57] Sometimes it will be quiet for days/weeks, then it will go on and off 16 times in an hour.
[14-May-2008 16:51:31] While the httpd process remains running the entire time. We are monitoring other processes on the machines as well, and they have no problems reporting proper functionality.
[14-May-2008 16:51:52] I admit this is a busy webserver, so apache threads are probably created/destroyed quickly/often.
[14-May-2008 18:47:40] When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 19:44:12] When I get a bad OID notification and need to change it, where do I go to change it? if I an using the default vmware install?
[14-May-2008 19:55:01] w/o flame, can i ask which might be the preferred install for zenoss on ubuntu server >= 7.10
[14-May-2008 19:57:57] To how many days will the zenoss keep backup of the data of the servers it monitors in the Mysql db
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[15-May-2008 11:54:54] how can I install zenoss to diffren location like /opt/zenoss than /usr/local/zenoss with rhel 5
[15-May-2008 11:56:13] Is possible to do it with rhel .rpm installation
[15-May-2008 12:58:57] <_chris_> indika: it's not possible
[15-May-2008 14:35:11] can anyone help me with getting zenoss to run portscans and match the portscan results with the Application classes?
[15-May-2008 14:35:25] \''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''']]]]]]]]]
[15-May-2008 14:56:32] is there a way to set the Event Console to refresh by default?
[15-May-2008 14:56:41] I'm sure there is, I just can't find out how
[15-May-2008 15:36:50] Hello, if I have a notification with "Bad OID" and I have the installation, no Zenpacks, Mibs or plugin added, where do I go to correct the oid information?
[15-May-2008 15:37:11] I meant I have a default installation
[15-May-2008 16:37:02] Hello
[15-May-2008 16:39:27] mib_p3: try rediscovering/remodeling the device, it's trying to poll an OID that no longer exists
[15-May-2008 16:40:16] %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 16:40:22] I have VMWare for the GNU distro for Zenoss. I am a noob to linux but I dont think its a linux issue. My snmp is functioning fine, no errors from the servers in zenoss but it is not collecting data anymore. I used the command: df in linux to make sure I had hard drive space and it looks fine. (22%
[15-May-2008 16:40:25] %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 17:19:26] help?
[15-May-2008 17:41:26] I have VMWare for the GNU distro for Zenoss. I am a noob to linux but I dont think its a linux issue. My snmp is functioning fine, no errors from the servers in zenoss but it is not collecting data anymore. I used the command: df in linux to make sure I had hard drive space and it looks fine. (22%
[15-May-2008 17:41:28] %|/dev/root 22%|none:%) Any idea why it would stop receiving data from my servers?
[15-May-2008 18:03:29] anyone seen this with the .deb package? :Daemon: zeoctl Error: /usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/zdaemon/zdrun.py is not an existing path
[15-May-2008 20:59:09] anyone around that understands the vmware setup for zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:02:24] like how?
[15-May-2008 21:31:47] sorry
[15-May-2008 21:31:56] are you still there mrayzenoss
[15-May-2008 21:32:13] I am having a weird issue with zenoss in vmware
[15-May-2008 21:34:16] ok, ill just say my issue, and ill stay in the room
[15-May-2008 21:35:42] I have had zenoss installed to vmware for a while now
[15-May-2008 21:35:45] works perfect
[15-May-2008 21:35:58] using hamachi as my vpn
[15-May-2008 21:36:23] worked great
[15-May-2008 21:36:44] but all of a sudden it stopped collecting snmp data from my 5 servers
[15-May-2008 21:37:20] thru the linux command I can not ping the hamachi IPs, but when I load the zenoss website it says it is connected and the servers are ready
[15-May-2008 21:37:26] so it sees them somehow
[15-May-2008 21:37:31] JVirus: can you run snmpwalk on those servers from within zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:37:37] it fails
[15-May-2008 21:38:39] sounds like the real issue is that it is not showing the devices as down, since it cant snmpwalk OR ping
[15-May-2008 21:38:52] wow, hold on a sec
[15-May-2008 21:39:36] its weird
[15-May-2008 21:39:44] some of my servers are working for snmp walk
[15-May-2008 21:39:47] others are not
[15-May-2008 21:39:52] but none collect data
[15-May-2008 21:40:25] I am checking my sonicwall logs and I am seeing a bunch of UDP packet drops
[15-May-2008 21:41:56] I assume zenperfsnmp is running...
[15-May-2008 21:44:02] Just added a new Mib to Zenoss and created a new Template. Under perf the graph that I created is listed however all it says is Missing RRD File. Where can I find instructions on creating graphs from new MIBS?
[15-May-2008 21:45:36] zenperfsnmp?
[15-May-2008 21:45:57] sorry, I am new to networking beyond routing my internet :P
[15-May-2008 21:46:37] on my servers?
[15-May-2008 21:46:43] to relay the snmp info ?
[15-May-2008 21:48:37] to pull the snmp info into the graph.
[15-May-2008 21:48:45] I use SNMP Informant on my windows servers
[15-May-2008 21:48:55] oh, does that run with zenoss?
[15-May-2008 21:49:10] I JUST INSTALLED WHATEVER WAS DEFAULT WITH THE VMWARE DOWNLOAD
[15-May-2008 21:49:15] oops, sorry, caps
[15-May-2008 21:52:23] so basically once you import the mib you need to set up a new template with data sources and graphs and then bind it to your device
[15-May-2008 21:52:46] there is a document somewhere on the zenoss site
[15-May-2008 21:54:00] JVirus: under settings under daemons check to make sure everything is running
[15-May-2008 21:54:04] yeah just need a new template which I setup, however must have missed something.
[15-May-2008 21:55:50] ok
[15-May-2008 21:56:03] zenping red light and zencommand red light
[15-May-2008 21:57:32] brb
[15-May-2008 21:57:50] JVirus: hit the start button on both
[15-May-2008 21:57:56] q2srw77: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.1.1/ch12s04.html
[15-May-2008 21:58:10] Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[15-May-2008 22:09:30] ok
[15-May-2008 22:09:32] I started them
[15-May-2008 22:09:39] is there a good way to test them
[15-May-2008 22:10:16] if they are down it should show up with the zenoss issues portlet
[15-May-2008 22:10:35] or do you mean against a single device?
[15-May-2008 22:10:47] I just mean to test zenoss collecting the data
[15-May-2008 22:10:59] they servers have never shown being doen
[15-May-2008 22:11:02] down
[15-May-2008 22:11:10] yeah the zenping needs to be running
[15-May-2008 22:11:14] the graphs were just empty
[15-May-2008 22:11:36] ok
[15-May-2008 22:11:49] you can test zenperfsnmp from the command line, I assume ssh is set up on the vmware image
[15-May-2008 22:11:54] now 3 of my servers got a error report
[15-May-2008 22:12:04] so zenping is now running
[15-May-2008 22:12:13] says my server is down
[15-May-2008 22:12:13] and since it cannot ping the devices it is generating an error
[15-May-2008 22:12:23] but 2 are "working"
[15-May-2008 22:12:31] but I dont know how long to wait to get data
[15-May-2008 22:13:05] what is zenperfsnmp
[15-May-2008 22:13:16] from the command line on the zenoss box run "zenperfsnmp -d -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:13:19] "
[15-May-2008 22:13:31] = ip correct?
[15-May-2008 22:13:34] yup
[15-May-2008 22:13:39] with the " "
[15-May-2008 22:13:43] no ""
[15-May-2008 22:13:48] didnt think so
[15-May-2008 22:13:58] the -v 10 should show some useful data
[15-May-2008 22:14:42] command not found
[15-May-2008 22:15:10] ah, you need to run "su zenoss" first
[15-May-2008 22:15:42] permission denied
[15-May-2008 22:15:49] hmm
[15-May-2008 22:15:57] I did "su zenoss run"
[15-May-2008 22:16:07] oh just su zenoss
[15-May-2008 22:16:24] bash-3.00$
[15-May-2008 22:16:39] so now you are the zenoss user, run zenperfsnmp -d -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:16:54] err zenperfsnmp run -d -v 10
[15-May-2008 22:17:18] command not found
[15-May-2008 22:17:42] gmm
[15-May-2008 22:17:45] *hmm
[15-May-2008 22:17:45] ?
[15-May-2008 22:17:48] oh
[15-May-2008 22:17:48] lol
[15-May-2008 22:19:11] im going to call sonicwall support too just in case, but I will be on hold for 45 min before they talk to me
[15-May-2008 22:19:30] since I see those dropped packets for UDP
[15-May-2008 22:21:50] makes sense
[15-May-2008 22:22:26] I wish it did to me
[15-May-2008 22:22:26] :P
[15-May-2008 22:22:56] All I know is when I set up snmp I had to make it udp or something
[15-May-2008 22:23:01] so I figure that is an issue
[15-May-2008 22:23:03] lol
[15-May-2008 22:31:47] its just weird how hamachi is all set up, running, everythings online and zenoss said that half are down
[15-May-2008 22:34:15] well you said you could not ping from the zenoss box, right?
[15-May-2008 22:35:39] they wouldnt no
[15-May-2008 22:36:36] well see
[15-May-2008 22:36:39] thats what is weird
[15-May-2008 22:36:46] now I can ping half of them
[15-May-2008 22:36:56] but those half still dont receive the snmp data
[15-May-2008 22:37:22] are they behind the firewall?
[15-May-2008 22:37:28] yeah
[15-May-2008 22:37:37] all servers are the same
[15-May-2008 22:37:44] and my network here is behind a sonicwall
[15-May-2008 22:37:56] but I havnt had issues untill just recently
[15-May-2008 22:38:14] and the sonicwall is new, I am thinking that is it now. But not totally sure on how its acting
[15-May-2008 22:38:51] yeah, if you cant ping some servers then I would check the firewall
[15-May-2008 22:39:55] yeah
[15-May-2008 22:40:04] but you would think all servers would have the same issue
[15-May-2008 22:40:24] its the same commands being ran
[15-May-2008 22:41:33] you would think....
[15-May-2008 22:44:52] does an snmp walk do something different than the command that gathers the snmp info for the graphs
[15-May-2008 22:44:55] ?
[15-May-2008 22:54:48] well snmpwalk just grabs a small portion of the info
[15-May-2008 22:55:13] snmpperfmon grabs everything every 5 minutes and stores the important info as performance data
[15-May-2008 23:04:02] and snmpperfmon was not working on my linix distr
[15-May-2008 23:04:04] distro
[15-May-2008 23:04:19] kinda scarry
[15-May-2008 23:04:42] but I am the only one with access to this box so, I know there were no changes to that
[15-May-2008 23:05:27] still on hold waiting for sonicwall support
[15-May-2008 23:05:31] bleh
[15-May-2008 23:06:02] oh no it was zenperfsnmp that was a bad command
[15-May-2008 23:06:23] I dunno, I just want to quit my job :P
[15-May-2008 23:08:32] The nice thing is that it is thru vmware, so I can just copy the vmware files to a machine off my network and see if it runs ok
[15-May-2008 23:48:53] can I force zenoss to grab snmp data instead of sitting around for 5 minutes
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[16-May-2008 14:31:04] pin mpmccallum
[16-May-2008 14:31:26] blah, I mean "ping npmccallum"
[16-May-2008 14:31:37] magnachef: yo
[16-May-2008 14:32:01] I'm wondering if I can get my hands on your updated Net-App zenpack?
[16-May-2008 14:32:10] its on the website
[16-May-2008 14:32:21] version 1.0?
[16-May-2008 14:33:14] ahhh...NetApp Volume
[16-May-2008 14:34:25] thanks...has anyone been able to get the perf graph working for the regular NetApp zenpack
[16-May-2008 14:48:22] hola folks
[16-May-2008 14:48:38] is there any issues that I now have two /Devices/Storage/NetApp classes?
[16-May-2008 14:48:58] quick question for devs, I have my WMI connection working, how do I define templates using WMI as a data source?
[16-May-2008 14:52:19] malbon: you have to create a command data source and run the wmi tool, take a look at the existing wmi zenpacks for a good way to do it
[16-May-2008 14:54:06] pat2man: thanks, I want to avoid using commands wherever possible.
[16-May-2008 14:55:02] well its just the wmi command, you need to tell it the server and username, etc. the wmi zenpacks do it quite well
[16-May-2008 14:55:51] so what does zenwin do?
[16-May-2008 14:57:28] heh, dont know exactly, something about modeling
[16-May-2008 14:58:51] magnachef: There should be one that is Netapp and one that is NetApp, no?
[16-May-2008 14:59:13] They were both captial "A"
[16-May-2008 14:59:26] but that was from having the other NetApp zenpack installed
[16-May-2008 15:00:35] one has a "Name" of NetApp, and one (yours) has a Name of FileSystem
[16-May-2008 15:02:41] pat2man: it's ok, I'll read the source. Thanks for the help.
[16-May-2008 15:03:35] magnachef: oh
[16-May-2008 15:04:30] Hi, I am using the vmare install, I have not added any zenpacks or mibs, I am getting this messages from my routers..unrouted VLAN 34 threshold of Utilization 75 perc exceeded: current value 1944.34
[16-May-2008 15:04:44] npmccallum: are you using both zenpacks, or just yours?
[16-May-2008 15:04:55] magnachef: neither at the moment :)
[16-May-2008 15:05:03] Where do I find these settings to be fixed?
[16-May-2008 15:05:06] heh
[16-May-2008 15:05:27] since is the default install, I just can't find these settigs
[16-May-2008 15:05:54] you need to go to the device class
[16-May-2008 15:06:03] then click on Templates
[16-May-2008 15:07:15] you may you then may need to create a new rule to filter out your VLAN type interfaces, or just change the threshold
[16-May-2008 15:07:31] so you would probably want to start with ethernetCsmacd
[16-May-2008 15:07:46] here.speed / 8 * .75
[16-May-2008 15:08:05] that is my setting, I would rather filter out the vlans
[16-May-2008 15:08:10] ok
[16-May-2008 15:08:23] so go to device class: /Devices/Network
[16-May-2008 15:08:37] your idea of the vlans is the right one
[16-May-2008 15:09:12] then create a new template, with the name of the interface type (as defined by zenoss) probably something like "vlan"
[16-May-2008 15:10:10] then just leave everything blank in that template (under data sources, thresholds, and graph definitions) and you should be done
[16-May-2008 15:10:32] I've done this for propVirtual interfaces
[16-May-2008 15:10:32] wow !!
[16-May-2008 15:10:39] that easy eh?
[16-May-2008 15:10:49] that's all ya gotta do!
[16-May-2008 15:11:00] awesome..let me give it a spin 11
[16-May-2008 15:11:07] good luck
[16-May-2008 15:11:16] thanks
[16-May-2008 15:11:19] don't forget to clear out those old events after setting up the template
[16-May-2008 15:11:20] np
[16-May-2008 15:11:27] sure..
[16-May-2008 15:14:25] does the template needs to bound?
[16-May-2008 15:14:51] I don't think so
[16-May-2008 15:15:07] What does bind means to the system?
[16-May-2008 15:15:23] heh, not sure
[16-May-2008 15:15:29] ok..
[16-May-2008 15:15:40] maybe someone else can chime in on that
[16-May-2008 15:16:47] npm: I'm getting a zenoss error after remodeling the device, then clicking on the perf tab
[16-May-2008 15:18:32] hmmm...only for one of my netapp devices...
[16-May-2008 15:19:58] I am also getting this: Error reading value for "unrouted VLAN 193" on some.router (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.296 is bad)
[16-May-2008 15:20:21] where is this oid located, again this is the default install
[16-May-2008 15:20:30] I know the value it needs
[16-May-2008 15:20:39] I just do not know w