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[01-Jun-2008 17:56:22] <exkev> I'm monitoring >700 hosts w/ zenoss core, and the bastard leaks memory like whoa
[01-Jun-2008 17:56:48] <exkev> it's way worse on 64-bit, and I found a bug report etc related to x64 arch, so I rolled it on 32 and I still need to restart every few days
[01-Jun-2008 17:57:04] <exkev> it's less severe
[01-Jun-2008 17:57:15] <exkev> anyone else seeing this?
[01-Jun-2008 18:11:15] <monrad> exkev: which version?
[01-Jun-2008 18:20:59] <exkev> 2.1.2 I think
[01-Jun-2008 18:21:21] <exkev> I've been from 2.1.0-2.1.1 and I think I did 2.1.2 when I moved to 32 bit
[01-Jun-2008 18:21:43] <exkev> nope, 2.1.3 actually
[01-Jun-2008 18:58:42] <exkev>
[01-Jun-2008 18:58:47] <exkev> oops
[01-Jun-2008 19:09:04] <monrad> is it a memleak in datacollector?
[01-Jun-2008 19:13:55] <exkev> digging
[01-Jun-2008 19:14:06] <exkev> I think a few procs grew quite constantly...
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:09] <exkev> zenmodeler was the issue on x64
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:25] <monrad> i have only had problems with zenmodeler
[01-Jun-2008 19:15:33] <exkev> it's definitely biggest on the x86 install currently
[01-Jun-2008 19:16:04] <exkev> zenperfsnmp is also about 75% of zenmodeler (150MB for perf, 200MB for model)
[01-Jun-2008 19:16:24] <exkev> but I restart midnight every day now
[01-Jun-2008 19:17:41] <exkev> the trends show increasing i/o wait and memory usage, and the most visible jumps were upon periodic modeler runs
[01-Jun-2008 23:14:53] <Moltar> Hello. Anyone up for answering a question?
[01-Jun-2008 23:15:13] <djs> No. Question answered.
[01-Jun-2008 23:15:50] <djs> So, now that we have that taken care of, how about you just ask your question?
[01-Jun-2008 23:16:28] <Moltar> Thanks... I just wanted to see if anyone was awake. Anyway, here goes, just in case. I upgraded to 2.2.0 from 2.1.3 a couple of days ago, and now have a problem with some boxes that have a private network interface.
[01-Jun-2008 23:17:33] <Moltar> The systems are not reachable on the private address from my zenoss monitor. Zenoss insists on trying to monitor the SMTP service by trying to connect on the private IP. Do you know any way to restrict the IP Service monitor to specific interfaces or IPs?
[01-Jun-2008 23:18:33] <djs> Not so far in my use of it. It seems to grab ahold of the net's dns server, and use whatever it can find there, if I understand what it did correctly.
[01-Jun-2008 23:19:20] <Moltar> For the moment, I've hacked around this by modifying the snmp IpServiceMap class to skip the private address range inside of the 'process' method. But there's got to be a better way than that.
[01-Jun-2008 23:19:49] <Moltar> This used to work OK as far as I know back when we were on 2.1.3...
[01-Jun-2008 23:21:50] <Moltar> I also tried deleting the SMTP service from the ipservices, and then adding it back in manually. That works for awhile, because there is no IP associated with it then. But the next time the device is modeled it gets screwed up again.
[01-Jun-2008 23:23:00] <Moltar> It doesn't just use the DNS names, if that was the case I'd be OK. My DNS only has the publicly accessible addresses of these boxes. The private addresses are for a load-balancer network interface.
[01-Jun-2008 23:23:44] <djs> If it is only 1 or 2 ips, and nothing else works, throw up a redirect from the private to the public ips.
[01-Jun-2008 23:24:59] <Moltar> Hmm. I'm not sure what you mean there. Are you talking about adding something to the routing tables on the zenoss monitor?
[01-Jun-2008 23:25:21] <djs> Um, I suppose that might work.
[01-Jun-2008 23:27:21] <Moltar> There are some special zproperties you can set that are to ignore interfaces or IP addresses. But that doesn't work for the IP services, just for the network map or interface monitoring portion.
[01-Jun-2008 23:28:13] <djs> Haven't gotten that far with zenoss. I have only been on it a week or so, testing it in comparison to Nagios.
[01-Jun-2008 23:29:47] <Moltar> OK. Thanks. I'll try posting something on the forum or the zenoss-users mailing list to see if anyone else has this problem. It might be a bug in the 2.2.0 release, since this seemed to just start after my last upgrade.
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[02-Jun-2008 06:38:56] <pitillo> hello good morning. Anyone know if is it possible to build zenoss with samba provided by itself and use another samba version (I am having problems with autoconf 2.53 and samba ("4.0.0tp4-SVN-build-UNKNOWN"))
[02-Jun-2008 06:52:32] <pitillo> seems that there are problems with wmi and autoconf 2.60 too... I will make some tests trying to remove samba from the source...
[02-Jun-2008 07:05:48] <pitillo> nothing to do without using a distro recommended in the official web page?
[02-Jun-2008 07:12:50] <nemo> should zenwin and zenwinperf be used together ? or mutually exclusive ?
[02-Jun-2008 07:22:21] <pitillo> well, let's see what happen patching the source and removing wmi from the source itself
[02-Jun-2008 07:38:24] <pitillo> hard to go ahead...
[02-Jun-2008 07:43:30] <nemo> ?????
[02-Jun-2008 09:00:22] <DarkMats> Anyone know what to do if you get alot of left over ssh processes when using sshmonitor?
[02-Jun-2008 09:00:55] <DarkMats> No error in any log I can find
[02-Jun-2008 09:05:02] * nemo guesses at the zencommand log in /opt/zenoss/log/
[02-Jun-2008 09:07:47] <DarkMats> No, no errors. Everything works fine in zenoss. Just that it doesn't close the ssh connection I think
[02-Jun-2008 09:20:39] <nemo> not very neat, but you could run a script that kills ones with run time > x mins
[02-Jun-2008 09:34:16] <DarkMats> Yeah, I've done that now, but wanted to know if there was a fix also ;)
[02-Jun-2008 09:34:38] <DarkMats> midnight everyday I kill all zenoss-owned sshd
[02-Jun-2008 09:37:48] <nemo> i guess thats on the client
[02-Jun-2008 09:37:59] <nemo> ( the script doesnt return on the client )
[02-Jun-2008 11:16:04] <pitillo> no way to build zenoss from sources...
[02-Jun-2008 11:17:56] <pitillo> anyone know where is provided (or in which zopeinterface version) ImportError: No module named ZEO.mkzeoinst
[02-Jun-2008 11:29:39] <pitillo> does someone here build zenoss succesfully from source?
[02-Jun-2008 11:37:31] <MrTux> pitillo: i did
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:02] <MrTux> pitillo: on ubuntu hardy, worked like a charm
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:06] <pitillo> MrTux, did you used zenoss-deps package or the dependencies from your distro?
[02-Jun-2008 11:38:34] <MrTux> pitillo: i took the source, and said ./install..
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:06] <pitillo> ummm well, I suppose you made the preinstallation notes about the user and its vars
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:21] <MrTux> yeah, sure.
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:35] <pitillo> btw, here is impossible for fe (python 2.5 and autoconf 2.60 are breaking things)
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:41] <pitillo> and I think sopeinterface too
[02-Jun-2008 11:39:49] <pitillo> *zopeinterface
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:01] <MrTux> you need python2.4
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:05] <pitillo> MrTux, thank you for you comment. I will continue bit by bit
[02-Jun-2008 11:40:14] <pitillo> MrTux, tried with 2.4.5 and 2.4.4 too
[02-Jun-2008 11:45:32] <nemo_> pitillo, zenoss works with a specific version of python only
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:14] <nemo_> -bash-3.1# python -V
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:14] <nemo_> Python 2.4.3
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:15] <pitillo> nemo_, I saw it. Now I am downgrading python and I will try again this afternoon
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:18] <nemo_> 2.4.x i believe
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:20] <pitillo> athank you :)
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:23] <nemo_> nada ;p
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:50] <pitillo> near, yes, followinf the readmeas I undestood to be > 2.4, but I was in wrong, seems that it's looking for 2.4.x
[02-Jun-2008 11:46:53] <pitillo> :)
[02-Jun-2008 11:55:42] <nemo_> i only noticed when you mentioned python 2.5
[02-Jun-2008 12:40:51] <pitillo> nemo_, well, with python2.4.3 I have problems with autoconf too. Which version of autoconf are you using? (here 2.60 and now downgrading to 2.53)
[02-Jun-2008 12:44:45] <nemo_> Python 2.4.3
[02-Jun-2008 12:44:55] <nemo_> done a make clean ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:45:57] <pitillo> yep
[02-Jun-2008 12:46:08] <pitillo> but it breaks with wmi and samba svn
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:27] <nemo_> well samba svn doesnt belong does it ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:31] <nemo_> wmi is optional
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:53] <pitillo> ummm yes, it stops there. I tried to remove the code to build wmi. Is there a better way to ommit wmi?
[02-Jun-2008 12:47:53] <nemo_> what distro are you building on btw ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:03] <pitillo> nemo_, I am using CRUX
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:31] <nemo_> never heard of it
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:35] <nemo_> :P
[02-Jun-2008 12:48:54] <pitillo> well, really doesn't matter the distro used to build sources IMO (only take care with deps)
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:15] <nemo_> in general i agree
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:29] <nemo_> something must have messed up somewhere tho
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:35] <pitillo> btw, I need to look for a good way to don't build wmi instead of removing the code which call the functions to build it
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:39] <nemo_> i never built it from source btw
[02-Jun-2008 12:49:47] <nemo_> use rpms enterprise edition
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:04] <pitillo> well, that's the way when it's building for the distro your are using :)
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:05] <nemo_> is the no configure script ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:20] <pitillo> ummm I am running install.sh script
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:39] <nemo_> but IS there a configure ?
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:46] <nemo_> id always run it first if there is
[02-Jun-2008 12:50:52] <pitillo> I made a patch to avoid the wmi functions calls to avoid this message and then I got the one related to zopeinterface and python
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:13] <pitillo> near, well, following the installation instruccions there is not much ways to build it
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:14] <nemo_> like i said, never compiled it , dont know, just trying to help
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:19] <nemo_> gtg, things to do
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:35] <pitillo> near, thank you anyways for your help and comments :)
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:43] <nemo_> np
[02-Jun-2008 12:51:52] <pitillo> omg, sorry, tab tab
[02-Jun-2008 12:57:41] <pitillo> well, patched and rebuilding again, let's see what happens now...
[02-Jun-2008 13:00:43] <pitillo> well, now it's built fine (py2.4.4 autoconf 2.53 and removed wmi...) bumping up autoconf again
[02-Jun-2008 13:02:15] <pitillo> well, I think it will be a bit hard to make a port for the distro I am using
[02-Jun-2008 13:49:19] <pitillo> a bit hard but possible :)
[02-Jun-2008 13:59:09] <jb> forums down?
[02-Jun-2008 14:02:29] <ckrough> the zenoss forums? dont think so, im in there now
[02-Jun-2008 14:04:45] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 14:04:48] <jb> i cant get to them
[02-Jun-2008 14:06:44] <twm1010> im browsin through them
[02-Jun-2008 14:08:28] <jb> yeah they are messed up
[02-Jun-2008 14:08:34] <jb> definetely routing issues
[02-Jun-2008 14:09:56] <ckrough> must be somewhere between you and them
[02-Jun-2008 14:12:56] <jb> its not just me :)
[02-Jun-2008 14:13:11] <jb> its an issue with their SP.. mrrayzenoss was talking about it last week
[02-Jun-2008 14:14:20] <Free_the_Mallocs> any chance they're hosted by ThePlanet?
[02-Jun-2008 14:14:41] <Free_the_Mallocs> since they just had a big explosion at one of their datacenters and something like 9k servers are offline
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:00] <jb> ohd amn
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:06] <jb> i didn't hear about that
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:14] <Free_the_Mallocs> http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011131199
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:21] <adytum-bot> Title: Texas-Based Server Provider Explosion Affects 9,000 Servers, 7,500 Customers | AHN | June 2, 2008 (at www.allheadlinenews.com)
[02-Jun-2008 14:15:55] <ckrough> I dont think they host at the planet
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:26] <jb> its not..
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:33] <jb> peer1..
[02-Jun-2008 14:16:59] <ckrough> boo
[02-Jun-2008 14:20:32] <twm1010> yikes!
[02-Jun-2008 14:36:25] <jb> argh, why wont this collection plugin work!
[02-Jun-2008 14:38:16] <jb> anyone know how I can troubleshoot this? no mention of the collection map name during the model at all
[02-Jun-2008 14:40:26] <jb> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap
[02-Jun-2008 14:40:30] <jb> it completely skips it
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:13] <magnachef> and you've added it to the list of collectors for that device class?
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:41] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:45] <jb> it worked in 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 14:45:49] <jb> this is 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:01] <magnachef> ahhh, another 2.1.x -> 2.2 thing
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:02] <jb> i wonder if the format of something changed
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:09] <jb> yeah and this is a clean 2.2 install
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:10] <jb> not an upgrade
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:49] <magnachef> what collector is it, did you write it?
[02-Jun-2008 14:46:58] <jb> yes
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:11] <jb> i basically copied the DellDeviecMap plugin and changed it
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:15] <jb> its for IBM machines
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:23] <jb> populates the serial number, hw mftg, etc
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:36] <fr500> hi
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:50] <ckrough> hi
[02-Jun-2008 14:47:51] <magnachef> hmmm...do you have it somewhere I can downlaod
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:36] <jb> sec
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:43] <fr500> i-m trying to use the google maps mashup feature but i have an issue
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:48] <jb> i think i need to eggify it
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:53] <jb> i just have no idea how
[02-Jun-2008 14:48:54] <jb> :P
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:08] <fr500> my network is ethernet and links are not necesailly on a /32 subnet
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:27] <fr500> so each new device i add is draing itself like if it was on a full mesh
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:32] <jb> mag: care if I email it to you?
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:40] <magnachef> sure
[02-Jun-2008 14:49:46] <jb> you can msg your email if you would like
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:31] <magnachef> did you get my msg?
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:43] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:44] <jb> sent
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:59] <jb> the zenpack is installed, and it shows up in the Collection Plugins
[02-Jun-2008 14:50:59] <magnachef> cool
[02-Jun-2008 14:51:17] <jb> i might just need to rewrite it somehow
[02-Jun-2008 14:51:19] <jb> to make it an egg
[02-Jun-2008 14:54:31] <jb> mag: did you get it?
[02-Jun-2008 14:59:28] <magnachef> one sec
[02-Jun-2008 15:02:34] <jb> gr i turned it into an EGG
[02-Jun-2008 15:02:40] <jb> and it still gets skipped
[02-Jun-2008 15:09:54] <magnachef> jb: have you looked at any of the 2.2 collectors? maybe something with the imports aren't working
[02-Jun-2008 15:10:44] <jb> well, this is exactly how the DellMonitor modeler is setup
[02-Jun-2008 15:13:00] <magnachef> hmmm
[02-Jun-2008 15:14:09] <jb> did you try installing it?
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:19] <magnachef> I didn't...I'm still running 2.1.3
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:43] <jb> ah
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:46] <jb> dont uprgade to 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:54] <magnachef> I was just looking over the code
[02-Jun-2008 15:16:58] <jb> its quite aggravating
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:08] <magnachef> heh, that's what I've been reading for the past week or so
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:23] <jb> and it seems like there are no answers to the problems
[02-Jun-2008 15:17:38] <magnachef> my 2.1.2 -> 2.1.3 upgrade didn't go so smoothly, so I'm a bit gun-shy
[02-Jun-2008 15:19:53] <magnachef> is there a reason you commented out the if getdata['setHWProductKey'] line in IBMDeviceMap.py?
[02-Jun-2008 15:22:51] <jb> yeah, that OID wasn't working
[02-Jun-2008 15:22:58] <jb> dellmonitor has one commented out too
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:01] <jb> INFO:zen.ZenModeler:plugins: zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWRunMap, DellDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:04] <jb> god this is annoying
[02-Jun-2008 15:25:21] <jb> its the exact same as DellDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:26:23] <magnachef> have you restarted zenoss after adding it?
[02-Jun-2008 15:26:49] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 15:28:17] <jb> ok hm
[02-Jun-2008 15:31:42] <jb> haha now delldevicemap is brokne
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:07] <magnachef> heh, how'd that happen? or was it broken the whole time as well?
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:30] <jb> no, I restarted zen
[02-Jun-2008 15:32:33] <jb> and now it's being skipped
[02-Jun-2008 15:35:40] <magnachef> odd
[02-Jun-2008 15:36:24] <magnachef> I'm stepping out for a bit...I'd try getting a hold of someone on zenoss-dev forum
[02-Jun-2008 15:48:21] <jb> ImportError: No module named modeler.plugins.IBMDeviceMap
[02-Jun-2008 15:48:24] <jb> uh
[02-Jun-2008 15:49:31] <jb> i think not
[02-Jun-2008 15:51:50] <fr500> is there a way to customize links in the google maps feature
[02-Jun-2008 15:52:08] <fr500> its meshing everything since it's a vpls network...
[02-Jun-2008 15:52:14] <fr500> but it's not really meshed
[02-Jun-2008 15:55:54] <jsm> so the latest zenoss seems pretty broken under centos 5.2..
[02-Jun-2008 15:56:03] <jsm> 5.1 rather
[02-Jun-2008 15:56:38] <jsm> it seems to want to install to /usr/local, but then the startup scripts still reference /opt/zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 15:59:27] <twm1010> fr500: you can choose not to draw certain links
[02-Jun-2008 16:00:17] <jb> jsm: welcome to the club..
[02-Jun-2008 16:00:38] <jsm> jb, not sure how that ever even got released.. i'll wait for the next point release
[02-Jun-2008 16:01:56] <jb> there are TONS of issues in 2.2
[02-Jun-2008 16:03:47] <jsm> it should be pulled
[02-Jun-2008 16:04:20] <jsm> been thinking of giving zabbix a try... anyone have luck with it? wondering how it compares
[02-Jun-2008 16:04:33] <jb> im going to quit wasting my time on it.. hopefully the next point release will fix things
[02-Jun-2008 16:07:32] <Free_the_Mallocs> zabbix is similarly broken
[02-Jun-2008 16:07:47] <Free_the_Mallocs> in fact, I'd go so far as to label zabbix as a dying project
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:18] <jb> yeah, never messed with zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:22] <jb> i really don't want to switch from zen
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:26] <jb> but damn, I just wish it would work.
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:33] <Free_the_Mallocs> yeah, that was my attitude about zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:08:46] <Free_the_Mallocs> I'm considering zenoss, although so far I have to say I'm somewhat underwhelmed
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:01] <jb> when something like 2.2 with so many problems slips thru the cracks, you gotta wonder..
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:08] <jb> i didn't have any of these issues with 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:23] <jb> Free: what are you using now?
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:43] <Free_the_Mallocs> I currently have a zabbix box as well as munin
[02-Jun-2008 16:09:53] <Free_the_Mallocs> but my zenoss install is being evaluated
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:18] <Free_the_Mallocs> the zenoss UI is superior to zabbix
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:23] <Free_the_Mallocs> that's nice anyhow
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:52] <jb> yeah, but a UI is sorta useless if the backend doesn't perform :P
[02-Jun-2008 16:10:57] <Free_the_Mallocs> agreed
[02-Jun-2008 16:14:30] <Free_the_Mallocs> if this turns out to be similarly broken, then my next candidate will be hyperic
[02-Jun-2008 16:16:18] <fr500> twm1010: how?
[02-Jun-2008 16:19:16] <jb> i havent heard anything about hyperic
[02-Jun-2008 16:19:34] <jb> whats it coded in?
[02-Jun-2008 16:20:10] <jb> sweet.. native AIX support
[02-Jun-2008 16:25:07] <jb> oh.. HQ is agent based
[02-Jun-2008 16:33:35] <Free_the_Mallocs> yeah, that's not an issue for us
[02-Jun-2008 16:34:57] <jb> guess it wouldnt be for me either
[02-Jun-2008 16:35:08] <jb> but im gonna keep on pounding with zenoss :P
[02-Jun-2008 16:35:13] <jb> i just REALLY hope they fix these issues
[02-Jun-2008 16:40:31] <magnachef> jb: any specific features make you "need" to switch to 2.2?
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:16] <jb> well, I wanted to start monitoring some windows hosts, and I had issues in 2.1.x
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:28] <jb> so I initially tried an upgrade from 2.1 -> 2.2 which botched everything
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:31] <jb> recovered my 2.1 install
[02-Jun-2008 16:41:38] <jb> so now, I have 2.2 on a new server/install
[02-Jun-2008 16:42:43] <magnachef> I see
[02-Jun-2008 16:43:06] <jb> hm ok I think I finaly got this working using the old style zenpack
[02-Jun-2008 16:50:41] <magnachef> what do you mean "old style"?
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:12] <jb> non-egg
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:27] <magnachef> ahh...what was the issue?
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:35] <jb> honestly, im not really s ure
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:41] <jb> something got goofed up with the zenpacks..
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:55] <jb> so I removed/reinstalled, reapplied collector settings
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:58] <jb> restarted zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 16:51:59] <jb> etc
[02-Jun-2008 17:36:38] <twm1010> jb: so you had trouble with the EGG zenpacks on a clean install?
[02-Jun-2008 17:39:14] <twm1010> jb: your Zenpack hits the IBM director agent?
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:06] <jb> no
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:16] <jb> its for AIX
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:38] <jb> snmpd on the AIX machines executes some scripts that grab the serial number, model number, etc, and pipe them thru the MIB
[02-Jun-2008 17:49:56] <jb> the zenpack just maps the OID's to "Serial," "HW Model", etc
[02-Jun-2008 17:50:09] <jb> yeah it was a clean install
[02-Jun-2008 17:50:47] <twm1010> hrmm.. odd
[02-Jun-2008 17:52:43] <twm1010> and when it models, it ignores it altogether?
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:06] <jb> yes
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:13] <jb> it was very odd
[02-Jun-2008 17:55:18] <jb> it wasn't consistent
[02-Jun-2008 18:07:27] <twm1010> I would think as long as the collectors are set in zProperties it runs whatever you have selected
[02-Jun-2008 18:08:35] <jb> ok.. zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames doesn't appear to be working
[02-Jun-2008 18:08:56] <twm1010> :O ??
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:05] <twm1010> it works for me, in my upgraded machine
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:29] <jb> trying to ignore lo0
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:33] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 18:09:43] <jb> also, do you know how often the disk usage stats are pulled?
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:04] <twm1010> 5 mins, i think
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:18] <jb> so you are completely ignoring an interface using zInterfaceMapIgnoreNames
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:19] <jb> ?
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:24] <twm1010> Yes
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:32] <twm1010> a shitload of them
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:33] <jb> im trying to ignore all errors from it on a tree level
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:46] <jb> ^lo0
[02-Jun-2008 18:13:53] <jb> is what I have in the zProp
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:31] <twm1010> @ /device/network/router i have this: (unrouted|rif0|VLAN|sit|BRI|EFXS|Voice|Bearer|FXO|Foreign|Null|Stack)
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:31] <adytum-bot> twm1010: Error: '/device/network/router' is not a valid command.
[02-Jun-2008 18:14:43] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:10] <twm1010> though, ^lo0 should work
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:23] <jb> maybe I need to remodel?
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:26] <twm1010> yes
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:29] <twm1010> you do
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:32] <jb> yep
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:33] <jb> ok
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:34] <jb> cool
[02-Jun-2008 18:15:45] <jb> thanks :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:00] <twm1010> seems like it takes a day or two before it gets around to re-modeling all my devices
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:25] <jb> yeah
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:29] <ckrough> should be every 12h
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:44] <twm1010> oh yeah? cool, i never did really pay attention, just knew it did it
[02-Jun-2008 18:16:48] <ckrough> sometimes I fire it off on the command line when testing, but the 12hr has been reliable
[02-Jun-2008 18:32:01] <jwaugh> I have Zenoss installed and I've found all devices on my network. For some reason I can't see what devices are associated with the IP EXCEPT for the Ricoh printer. I have firewalls off as well on all computers. I'm also wondering why my modem and routers aren't showing up the way they should like the printer. I've watched the demo and read manual page after manual page. I'm confused. -_-
[02-Jun-2008 18:32:53] <jb> are you running SNMPD on your modems, routers, etc?
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:17] <jwaugh> Ah, nope.
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:25] <jwaugh> I don't think the Linksys has that to begin with
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:30] <jwaugh> So I'm screwed, huh?
[02-Jun-2008 18:33:51] <jb> wouldn't say that, but they aren't going to work out of the box :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:06] <jwaugh> Ah, I figured that. I just wasn't sure what I needed to do
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:19] <jwaugh> Windows machines? What do I do about that?
[02-Jun-2008 18:34:29] <jwaugh> There is an snmpd for win32 I'm guessing
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:29] <twm1010> No, there is an SNMP service built into windows
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:43] Free_teh_Mallocs is now known as Free_the_Mallocs
[02-Jun-2008 18:35:45] <twm1010> hit up control panel, add/remove programs, add/remove windows components, its under network monitoring
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:03] <jwaugh> twm1010: Thanks a million
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:04] <twm1010> you then augment that with the SNMP Informant program, allows zenoss to pull some more information
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:08] <jwaugh> Will try to do something for myself now ;)
[02-Jun-2008 18:36:45] <twm1010> then on each box, you configure SNMP through the services snap-in
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:02] <twm1010> if you want to be slick about it, and have a domain, this can be pushed through group policy quite easily, at least for read-only settings
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:12] <jwaugh> I can't do a domain... wish I could.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:22] <jwaugh> It would cost too much to manage 20 or 30 computers.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:32] <jwaugh> I'm using this to start up a new 24/7 monitoring business for local companies.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:40] <jwaugh> I want to be able to see when they have a problem before they know they have some of them.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:46] <jwaugh> And respond and just look like God.
[02-Jun-2008 18:37:47] <jwaugh> :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:43:44] <twm1010> Thats a reasonable goal
[02-Jun-2008 18:44:05] <twm1010> Let me tell ya one thing though. That admin manual is a bit of a bear, but suck it up and read it
[02-Jun-2008 18:44:22] <twm1010> will go long ways towards understanding how zenoss works
[02-Jun-2008 18:45:22] <jwaugh> twm1010: Will take your advice and read it. :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:45:56] <jwaugh> As soon as I saw this software I saw a heck of an opportunity.
[02-Jun-2008 18:46:37] <twm1010> It can be... if you make it one
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:31] <jwaugh> Now I'm having fun finding all these dlls and exes because I don't have my windows disc
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:36] <jwaugh> Google is getting a workout. :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:44] <adytum-bot> http://primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/library/activity/active.htm
[02-Jun-2008 18:47:53] <kso512> lol
[02-Jun-2008 18:48:06] <jwaugh> lol @ adytum-bot
[02-Jun-2008 18:48:32] <twm1010> jwaugh: what windows disc do you need?
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:03] <ckrough> ha
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:04] <jwaugh> when I went into add / remove windows components it needs my SP2 disc. I'm actually at a client's place right now so I don't have my discs available
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:16] <jwaugh> I'm finding the files though
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:26] <twm1010> they're around, for sure
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:29] <jwaugh> right now evntcmd.exe is kinda hard
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:41] <jwaugh> Well, it'd take a while to download a 700 MB iso, so I'm just piecing it together
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:43] <jwaugh> a little at a time
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:43] <jwaugh> haha
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:55] <kso512> jwaugh: i'd make a little USB flash drive that had all the different windows versions' files, plus that informant program
[02-Jun-2008 18:49:58] <twm1010> whatever floats your boat, might be easier to just wait till you have the CD
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:08] <twm1010> kso512:goodidea
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:14] <jwaugh> kso512: Good idea, indeed.
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:20] <jwaugh> just copy the i386 folder
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:24] <jwaugh> from the setup disc
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:41] <kso512> jwaugh: that'd be overkill, but would work :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:50:53] <jwaugh> kso512: Thank goodness for 8gb flash drive. ;)
[02-Jun-2008 18:51:49] <jwaugh> Anybody have that file that would be easily uploaded somewhere? If not, I'm still looking.
[02-Jun-2008 18:51:51] <jwaugh> Just thought I'd ask.
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[02-Jun-2008 18:56:31] <jwaugh> Lucked out, I remembered that I had bought an XP upgrade disc for this client. :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:56:50] <jwaugh> Now to scroll up and find the instructions you gave me
[02-Jun-2008 18:57:32] <jwaugh> Okay, SNMP Service and SNMP Trap service ARE running
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:11] <jb> btw, don't expect to just jump into this and have everything work correctly the first time :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:20] <jwaugh> jb: I wasn't. :)
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:28] <ckrough> ha, jb's had a rough month
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:36] <jwaugh> I'm in mmc but I'm not seeing a snapin the services snapin didn't have what I need.
[02-Jun-2008 18:58:39] <jwaugh> to config snmp
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:32] <jb> right click the service and go to properties..
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:36] <ckrough> jb, are you windows or *nix?
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:36] <jb> all configuration will be there..
[02-Jun-2008 18:59:41] <jb> ck: unix :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:00] <jwaugh> jb: Yeah, I'm dumb, figured that out
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:10] <jwaugh> I'm re-discovering just to see what happens, nothing will - will it?
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:41] <jb> if you configured snmp properly, you should see something..
[02-Jun-2008 19:00:52] <jb> although you will probably want to install snmp informant on those windows boxes too
[02-Jun-2008 19:01:46] <twm1010> betcha communities aren't setup yet
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:08] <jwaugh> jb: snmp informant being a windows component or a downloaded one
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:08] <jb> probably
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:15] <jb> you will need to manually configure the communities
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:17] <jb> and their access
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:21] <twm1010> jwaugh: downloaded
[02-Jun-2008 19:02:58] <jwaugh> ok
[02-Jun-2008 19:06:14] <twm1010> Did you setup your community string in Zenoss yet?
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:23] <jwaugh> twm1010: Nope.
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:25] <jwaugh> Going to do that.
[02-Jun-2008 19:07:34] <jwaugh> Installing snmp informant atm
[02-Jun-2008 19:08:15] <jwaugh> I installed it and don't understand what it does.
[02-Jun-2008 19:09:04] <jwaugh> Whoo! No configuration needed. I installed the snmp and wmi and now it detects just fine.
[02-Jun-2008 19:09:05] <jwaugh> Nifty.
[02-Jun-2008 19:10:15] <jwaugh> or not - should have listened to you all - win services is blank as is OS Processes IP services and File Systems still a lot more work to do
[02-Jun-2008 19:10:58] <twm1010> jwaugh: some of that comes on the second modeling of the device
[02-Jun-2008 19:11:27] <jwaugh> twm1010: Not following. I feel as if I'm about to get a RTFM f not being the nice version of "F"
[02-Jun-2008 19:11:28] <jwaugh> :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:15] <magnachef> Read The Fantastic Manual? :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:22] <jwaugh> magnachef: :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:15:32] <jwaugh> I just didn't understand the "second modeling"
[02-Jun-2008 19:20:44] <jwaugh> Quick simple question: under Component type on a device page I only have Other, IPRouteEntry and IpInterface. Should I have anything else?
[02-Jun-2008 19:26:47] <twm1010> depends on what it has detected
[02-Jun-2008 19:26:50] <twm1010> and what you installed
[02-Jun-2008 19:34:20] <jwaugh> I'm reading up on the "community" thing.
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:19] <jb> the "community" thing? have you ever worked with snmp? :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:27] <jwaugh> jb: Sadly, no
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:35] <jb> oh ok
[02-Jun-2008 19:39:41] <jb> well you have quite a bit of reading to do :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:18] <mray> so hypothetically, if the documentation was all in wiki form, do you think you would be more likely to read it vs. the PDFs and HTML?
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:31] <mray> and if you read it, would you help clean it up?
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:39] <mray> (I think you see where I'm going with this)
[02-Jun-2008 19:41:43] <jwaugh> mray: yes
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:04] <jwaugh> and yes I'd help if I could
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:34] <mray> doesn't help your timeframe, but it's something I'm working on
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:41] <mray> requirements for a revamped community site
[02-Jun-2008 19:42:57] mray is now known as mrayzenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:00] <jwaugh> "requirements" meaning helping with the wiki?
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:17] <mrayzenoss> sorry, we haven't been introduced. I'm the Community Manager for Zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:25] <magnachef> wiki is nice for community additions in terms of documentation, but I dunno if most people would be "more likely to read it"
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:45] <jwaugh> Personally I hate manuals and tend to find wikis and forums for support.
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:46] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: I'm looking at docbook->wiki bridges, so we could push things back and forth
[02-Jun-2008 19:43:47] <jwaugh> That's just me though
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:10] <magnachef> yeah, there is definitely a need for the community to try and fill in the documentation gaps
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:12] <mrayzenoss> updates to the wiki would get reviewed, and pushed into the admin guide and dev guide as appropriate
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:35] <mrayzenoss> our current wiki is anemic
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:52] <jb> hey twm, you monitoring any windows boxes yet?
[02-Jun-2008 19:44:56] <mrayzenoss> but there's a lot of good content
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:11] <mrayzenoss> just hard to find everything
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:35] <magnachef> yeah...that's probably my biggest "complaint" with Zenoss (too many holes in documentation, not enough detail)
[02-Jun-2008 19:45:56] <jwaugh> I think it should be done more by example
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:07] <jwaugh> A set up being made with screenshots once in a while
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:09] <jwaugh> that you can follow
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:32] <jwaugh> and just make your own for your own enterprise
[02-Jun-2008 19:46:47] <magnachef> there are some things like that in the current wiki (httpmonitor, and syslog)
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:14] <jwaugh> It'd be cool if the whole setup process was documented in that forum.
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:22] <jwaugh> Then people like me, would leave people like you alone
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:23] <jwaugh> :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:27] <jwaugh> lol
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:50] <mrayzenoss> then I'd just be working on the next barrier to usage
[02-Jun-2008 19:47:56] <mrayzenoss> barrier 1 was installers
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:02] <mrayzenoss> barrier 2 is documentation
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:37] <mrayzenoss> at least I always have plenty to work on
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:40] <jwaugh> The installer is nice. I tried installing from source and ran into dependency problems and everything else
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:45] <ckrough> I would like to see more HOWTO format docs, ie; HOWTO set up distributed polling, HOWTO customize graphs, etc...
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:53] <mattik> Hello, I'm sorry because I disturb you silly question, but I like to know what are login account and password in zenoss?
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:58] <jwaugh> ckrough: What you are talking about is too advanced for me.
[02-Jun-2008 19:48:59] <ckrough> I plan to create a couple when I get some time
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:04] <jwaugh> I don't even know what that is
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:08] <mrayzenoss> mattik: admin/zenoss
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:22] <mattik> mrayzenoss: Thank you :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:37] <mrayzenoss> ckrough: make sure you put them up on the wiki, I'll blog about them :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:50] <mrayzenoss> and I'll make sure they end up in the new wiki
[02-Jun-2008 19:49:51] <ckrough> yeah, when I do them Ill submit them
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:04] <magnachef> so what's the timeframe for the new wiki?
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:16] <jwaugh> So what is the cut and dry version of getting installed software to show up in zenoss? haha
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:30] <jwaugh> I "see" the computers now since I installed snmp on the windows machines
[02-Jun-2008 19:50:38] <ckrough> we've got a fairly large install, so we get the opportunity to set up some neat stuff. I hope to be able to make some HOWTO's from that and submit them
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:05] <jwaugh> I'd be happy to work on a camtasia in exchange for your help.
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:12] <magnachef> jwaugh: on windows, you may need to use WMI or have SNMP informant running to get that
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:12] <jwaugh> :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:31] <jb> well.. the installer is nice
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:37] <jb> but the upgrades are not always reliable :P
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:45] <jb> as many of us have recently seen
[02-Jun-2008 19:51:57] <mrayzenoss> magnachef: gathering requirements now, but I'd say not soon enough :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:00] <jwaugh> I'm lucky, I jumped on board with 2.2 then I suppose
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:01] <jwaugh> :)
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:09] <magnachef> heh, yeah
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:17] <jb> hey magna, are you monitoring any windows hosts?
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:23] <jwaugh> Can't you just backup your db and then import it in the new releases?
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:26] <magnachef> yeah...a couple
[02-Jun-2008 19:52:55] <jb> mag: are they reporting the uptime correctly?
[02-Jun-2008 19:53:26] <magnachef> seems like it
[02-Jun-2008 19:53:52] <magnachef> I am getting the software to show up as well
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:02] <magnachef> and I'm just using plain ole MS SNMP
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:07] <jb> software works fine
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:10] <jb> but uptimes are all wrong
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:25] <jb> is the software populating on your linux hosts?
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:27] <magnachef> how much are they off by?
[02-Jun-2008 19:54:59] <jb> sec lemme check
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:02] <magnachef> only on some
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:58] <jwaugh> are all the things in products just there by default?
[02-Jun-2008 19:55:59] <magnachef> I believe that has something to do with adding the SWInstalled MIB
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:03] <jwaugh> Because I have A LOT of things in "products"
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:30] <jb> yeah its off by weeks and weeks
[02-Jun-2008 19:56:38] <jb> zen says this box as been up for 14minutes
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:14] <magnachef> is it showing SNMP's uptime?
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:19] <jb> hm
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:21] <magnachef> windows SNMP does some weird things
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:24] <jb> yeah that could be it
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:27] <jwaugh> I'm noticing "uptime" is measured from the last time I ran a discover devices.
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:28] <jb> i did restart SNMP
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:36] <magnachef> hence everyone's push to use snmp informant
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:48] <jb> well, snmp informant is installed
[02-Jun-2008 19:57:52] <magnachef> ahhh
[02-Jun-2008 19:59:15] <jwaugh> zWinUser & password is my common user & password on all clients?
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:00] <magnachef> I think that's for WMI (?) and needs admin level permissions
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:21] <jwaugh> I installed WMI so at least I've gotten that far.
[02-Jun-2008 20:00:57] <twm1010> What do you mean you "installed" WMI.
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:09] <jwaugh> in add remove windows components I installed it
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:17] <twm1010> ah, thats unneccessary
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:24] <jwaugh> twm1010: Uh oh.
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:29] <twm1010> it won't hurt though
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:33] <jwaugh> What did that do?
[02-Jun-2008 20:01:54] <twm1010> It's an extension of sorts, not sure exactly what, but you don't need it, but i wouldn't bother uninstalling it
[02-Jun-2008 20:02:49] <twm1010> What zProperties have you set?
[02-Jun-2008 20:03:25] <jwaugh> Just the defaults
[02-Jun-2008 20:03:30] <jwaugh> and admin and password
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:05] <twm1010> What device class did you put your server in?
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:31] <jwaugh> my "server" is just a windows xp pro computer
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:37] <jwaugh> and I'm not sure what class it is in
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:38] <jwaugh> lol
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:40] <jwaugh> public I think
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:55] <jwaugh> oh, that's the community
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:56] <twm1010> Any device that Zenoss interacts with, is put into a device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:04:57] <jwaugh> whoops
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:04] <jwaugh> oh, it's in discovered
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:09] <twm1010> the device class/folder determines its settings
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:31] <twm1010> ok, thats your problem then
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:41] <jwaugh> I made a workstations class
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:49] <jwaugh> but I didn't assign any properties to it
[02-Jun-2008 20:05:49] <twm1010> You need to move your server to the /Devices/Server/Windows device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:06:32] <twm1010> Yes, but that class you created is kind of like a blank slate, it doesn't have all the settings and configurations for monitoring a windows box
[02-Jun-2008 20:06:59] <jwaugh> Alright, I moved it to /Devices/Server/Windows/192.168.1.100
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:12] <twm1010> now remodel the device
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:27] <jwaugh> Umm, how?
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:43] <jwaugh> Manage > Model Device
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:44] <jwaugh> haha
[02-Jun-2008 20:07:45] <jwaugh> Sorry
[02-Jun-2008 20:08:23] <twm1010> once its done, have another look at your device
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:03] <jwaugh> OS, Hardware, Software, Events are all empty
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:05] <jwaugh> still
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:16] <jwaugh> Perf is working now though
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:18] <jwaugh> With graphs
[02-Jun-2008 20:09:28] <jwaugh> status seems to be completely filled out too
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:06] <twm1010> You're getting there.
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:43] <twm1010> I'm going to assume you set your zWinUser and zWinPassword under the device itself, ideally you should set this under the zprops of the device class
[02-Jun-2008 20:10:56] <twm1010> think... inherited filesystem rights
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:11] <jwaugh> So under /Devices set my xProperties?
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:13] <jwaugh> *z
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:14] <jwaugh> sorry
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:20] <twm1010> Well /Devices is like the root
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:25] <jwaugh> It's already set correctly there
[02-Jun-2008 20:11:44] <twm1010> ok, that should be fine for the most "general" of settings, that apply to your entire environment
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:07] <twm1010> just understand that you can set zproperties at any class/subclass or even at the device level
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:23] <jwaugh> I'm not understanding why they are set correctly and I'm still not seeing my software or anything
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:44] <twm1010> model it one more time
[02-Jun-2008 20:12:46] <jwaugh> I have my admin user and password in zProperties and they are showing up correctly in the Windows Server's properties as well (via inheritance)
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:07] <jwaugh> Modeling.
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:38] <jwaugh> http://pastebin.com/m2ff0acfe
[02-Jun-2008 20:13:56] <jwaugh> Nothing, still.
[02-Jun-2008 20:14:36] <twm1010> Hrmm... not sure then... looks like you've got it configured right... could be a limitation of XP? Never did monitor a workstation here
[02-Jun-2008 20:14:38] <twm1010> always server
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:02] <jwaugh> Ah. This has the capability to monitor workstations, though? If not - it isn't going to do me any good.
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:09] <jwaugh> According to the demo video it can.
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:17] <jwaugh> Linux and Windows workstations were on the demo video
[02-Jun-2008 20:15:30] <twm1010> probably will... just not sure what your problem is, most likely something easy
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:14] <kso512> From what I've seen, the 'software' tab is filled in on windows machines with just SNMP/SNMP-Informant...
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:18] <kso512> No need for a log in.
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:45] <twm1010> right
[02-Jun-2008 20:16:46] <jwaugh> well step by step - I installed snmp and wmi then went into my services snap in and snmp service properties - from there, "traps tab" set the community as "public" and trap destinations: as "192.168.1.249" the workstation in question - should that be the ubuntu server running zenoss?
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:03] <kso512> Not traps.
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:12] <twm1010> traps aren't for gathering information, they're sending it
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:13] <jwaugh> so delete the traps settings?
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:13] <kso512> Traps are for sending, pushing, signals...
[02-Jun-2008 20:17:59] <kso512> There are two services that start with SNMP... You need to adjust the first one: SNMP Service
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:17] <jwaugh> SNMP service has the "traps" tab
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:26] <kso512> Yes, but you don't need that tab.
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:29] <jwaugh> Alright
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:33] <jwaugh> I deleted what I did in it
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:44] <jwaugh> Log on as: Leave as Local System Account?
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:49] <jwaugh> or my Admin account?
[02-Jun-2008 20:18:50] <kso512> The Security tab has the goodies
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:00] <kso512> Leave as Local System
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:12] <jwaugh> Okay, under security, I have public with rw access
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:19] <kso512> check all the 'services' under the 'agent' tab
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:19] <jwaugh> and accept snmp packets from any host
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:28] <jwaugh> they are all checked
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:31] <jwaugh> I did that earlier
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:36] <kso512> Did you restart the service?
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:39] <jwaugh> NO
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:40] <jwaugh> Crap
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:55] <kso512> I've done it too - don't feel too bad :D
[02-Jun-2008 20:19:55] <jwaugh> Restarting... although I only have a "stop" option
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:04] <jwaugh> restarted - now remodel?
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:09] <kso512> *nod*
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:13] <twm1010> Umm... FYI, using the community "Public" with RW access might be a bad idea...
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:23] <kso512> Indeed
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:25] <jwaugh> what access do you recommend?
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:28] <twm1010> RO
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:29] <magnachef> RO
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:33] <jwaugh> ok
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:35] <jwaugh> changing
[02-Jun-2008 20:20:44] <kso512> (and restarting :D)
[02-Jun-2008 20:21:29] <jwaugh> right
[02-Jun-2008 20:22:26] <jwaugh> remodeling
[02-Jun-2008 20:30:34] <twm1010> im out! later
[02-Jun-2008 20:32:26] <malbon> yo
[02-Jun-2008 20:32:33] <malbon> any of the devs around?
[02-Jun-2008 20:48:43] <jb> I have some devices (ESX VM's) that when modeled their "HW Product" is showing as the OID, not as the actual OS.. whats the best way to change this?
[02-Jun-2008 21:00:37] <ckrough> \quit
[02-Jun-2008 21:00:48] <ckrough> ha, and that wraps up the day...
[02-Jun-2008 21:24:43] <punkcut> I have a question. How do I configure a graph to show up in the main "perf" section of a device? From the defaults I have my filesystem space free being graphed however it does not show up in the perf section of the device. Only when I drill down into it.
[02-Jun-2008 21:46:39] * kso512 hasn't figured that out yet...
[02-Jun-2008 22:07:33] <punkcut> yah it doesnt seem like theres much of a way to edit the graphs in the perf section.
[02-Jun-2008 23:19:43] <kso512> Has anyone had any luck using MSSQL as a backend for the data, instead of MySQL...?
[02-Jun-2008 23:39:50] <jwaugh> So nobody in here knew of anyway to monitor XP workstations?
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[03-Jun-2008 00:10:49] <kso512> jwaugh: erm, should be the same as other Windows OS's...
[03-Jun-2008 02:21:32] <troy42> g'evening
[03-Jun-2008 02:47:13] <jwaugh> Hey guys
[03-Jun-2008 02:55:26] <jwaugh> I just placed a Windows 2003 server in /dev/server/windows/ and it shows all software - I cannot get it to do this in XP, any ideas? I tried putting the xp workstation in the same class but nothing.
[03-Jun-2008 02:56:49] <jwaugh> zenwin is giving me a red dot in status on my server
[03-Jun-2008 03:00:46] <troy42> hmm, haven't played with a win32 endpoint myself
[03-Jun-2008 03:04:41] <jwaugh> Seems very hard to find support for them even though it seems to be the most common enterprise server type around here.
[03-Jun-2008 03:05:30] <jwaugh> What do blue dots mean in Status tab on a device?
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[03-Jun-2008 03:22:02] <cbleach> Are you sure that the WMI connection to the xp machine is working with the credential you use for the 2003 server?
[03-Jun-2008 03:29:10] <jwaugh> Hmm, even 2k3 server isn't showing services running or anything
[03-Jun-2008 03:31:25] <jwaugh> WMI actually, isn't working. I don't know why either.
[03-Jun-2008 03:32:26] <jwaugh> skipping 192.168.0.15 has bad wmi state (that's my win2k3 server)
[03-Jun-2008 03:33:32] <jwaugh> when I try to remodel
[03-Jun-2008 04:11:12] <adytum-bot> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Divmod/Holden Web Partnership - 03 Jun, 03:05AM
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[03-Jun-2008 04:21:52] <jwaugh> Is there a way to pair up a discovered IP to a device so it will show up on your network map?
[03-Jun-2008 04:24:04] <jwaugh> I have a netgear wireless router and it's showing up. in my discovered class
[03-Jun-2008 04:49:03] <kso512> jwaugh: You should be able to move the router to the /Devices/Network/Router class.
[03-Jun-2008 04:53:00] <jwaugh> kso512: I did so and it's not showing on the network map. Because there is no actual device. Only an IP address where there SHOULD be the wireless router
[03-Jun-2008 04:54:53] <kso512> jwaugh: Ah. Without SNMP enabled on it (may be possible), or some other form of monitoring, I'd just move it to /Devices/Ping then...
[03-Jun-2008 04:55:15] <kso512> jwaugh: That way it keeps an eye on it, but doesn't expect more than a ping reply.
[03-Jun-2008 04:56:25] <lahirup> hi we receive this error "WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba" can any body please help on this
[03-Jun-2008 04:56:57] <kso512> lahirup: Sorry, I haven't cracked WMI yet...
[03-Jun-2008 04:58:00] <lahirup> this error comes from a win2003ent/sp1 server
[03-Jun-2008 05:33:13] <lahirup> can any one help on this error "WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 05:43:10] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 05:46:59] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 06:47:00] <lahirup> any one familiar with this error - com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 07:24:34] <pitillo> hello good morning
[03-Jun-2008 08:02:14] <lahirup> can anybody help on this please"WMI connect error on Server: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba"
[03-Jun-2008 08:37:27] <lahirup> good morning
[03-Jun-2008 08:37:27] <lahirup> <lahirup> can anybod
[03-Jun-2008 08:38:20] <lahirup> can anyone help me with the following error : WMI connect error on SVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 08:41:49] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 08:57:58] <sircco> hey people, how do i add locations to google map?
[03-Jun-2008 08:59:21] <sircco> found it
[03-Jun-2008 09:10:09] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 09:15:38] <pitillo> lahirup, I made a search and I can see a post in zenoss lists, but I can't open it (seems that I have problems with the list) if you can take a look to see if it can help you (if you didn't) http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/008789.html I hope it can be usefull, if not, sorry.
[03-Jun-2008 10:18:33] <mrsparks> hey all , anyone have a clue which packages i have to update on an ubuntu machine to fix that threshold not met 0.0 problem ?
[03-Jun-2008 10:22:53] <mrsparks> okay..
[03-Jun-2008 10:57:48] <lahirup> Hello is there anyone who can help me with this error:WMI connect error on QTRTWEBSVR01: com_error(-2147023174): DOS code 0x800706ba
[03-Jun-2008 11:25:00] <lahirup> I receive the error message:zen.zenwin: WMI Connection to QTRTWEBSVR01 went down in zenoss log file. can anybody help me?
[03-Jun-2008 11:27:48] <nemo_> you know what i HATE
[03-Jun-2008 11:28:03] <nemo_> people who sit there repeating there question, let me explain how it works
[03-Jun-2008 11:28:12] <nemo_> if ppl know, they might reply
[03-Jun-2008 12:12:02] <ckrough> \
[03-Jun-2008 12:51:20] <MrTux> jyfi, i created a zenoss user group on xing, see https://www.xing.com/net/zog
[03-Jun-2008 12:51:26] <adytum-bot> Title: XING - Groups - All Groups - Zenoss User Group - Welcome to this XING group (at www.xing.com)
[03-Jun-2008 13:02:14] <twm1010> Yay for exploding servers!
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:07] <ckrough> problems?
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:39] <twm1010> I got this assanine proxy server that likes to crash at random intervals
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:43] <twm1010> Can't put my foot on the issue
[03-Jun-2008 13:05:49] <ckrough> ah
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:07] <twm1010> heh, have you seen roger rabbit?
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:31] <ckrough> the movie? yup
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:42] <twm1010> check out this photoshop this guy did
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:43] <twm1010> http://pixeloo.blogspot.com/2008/04/jessica-rabbit-untooned.html
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:51] <twm1010> used angelina jolie as a base
[03-Jun-2008 13:06:56] <adytum-bot> Title: pixeloo: Jessica Rabbit Untooned (at pixeloo.blogspot.com)
[03-Jun-2008 13:07:10] <nemo_> sad mfs
[03-Jun-2008 13:09:58] <nemo_> get a job and take a real female on a date ;p
[03-Jun-2008 13:11:48] <twm1010> What does that have to do with anything?
[03-Jun-2008 13:12:11] <twm1010> Who shit in your cheerios this morning?
[03-Jun-2008 13:12:57] <nemo_> haha , your saying that to me ? isnt this a zenoss channel ?
[03-Jun-2008 13:13:26] <nemo_> keep your sadness to yourself i wont have to comment
[03-Jun-2008 13:14:11] <twm1010> So because my discussion is off-topic you being a complete jerk is justified?
[03-Jun-2008 13:28:55] <pitillo> thanks all for this great app... monitoring some networks fine since yesterday. Testing and waiting how hard will be to make an upgrade :)
[03-Jun-2008 13:35:55] <twm1010> from 2.1.3 to 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 13:41:21] <pitillo> ummm no, I have atm 2.2.0. I mean if I can test this version and wait for the next release to see if it will be hard to update
[03-Jun-2008 13:41:51] <monrad> i have schedulede a 2 hour window for upgrading 2.1.3 to 2.2.0 tomorrow :)
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:08] <twm1010> I would recommend waiting until 2.2.1 is released, scheduled for 6/11
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:45] <pitillo> finally I couldn't make a port to this distro and installed it following the guide (using the zenoss user and setting up the destdir by hand)
[03-Jun-2008 13:42:58] <monrad> twm1010: any reasons?
[03-Jun-2008 13:43:23] <twm1010> I myself have had some weird issue crop up, Zenpacks broken, just some odd things here and there
[03-Jun-2008 13:43:30] <pitillo> I will continue reading the good guide and I will see if there are notes about upgrading
[03-Jun-2008 13:44:20] <twm1010> pit: I've only used the appliance, where updates are done through Conary, its possible that installs form source or RPM are a little smoother
[03-Jun-2008 13:46:47] <pitillo> ummm I will take a look first to webpage and the guide (atm I am at page 83 xD) to see if there is info related to how to upgrade (I am quite sure there must be good info about this) I will upgrade from source. I think the scripts provided will only need some little changes according to my system
[03-Jun-2008 13:59:56] <nemo_> twm1010, i think your the one being a jerk, but whatever i dont wanna talk to you , i assume the same from you , so EOD ?
[03-Jun-2008 14:03:02] <twm1010> Next time keep your comments to yourself... I'll do the same. EOD
[03-Jun-2008 14:08:56] <nemo_> Rgr
[03-Jun-2008 14:41:37] <ckrough> anyone know where to find a list of the variables that are available for graph report summaries?
[03-Jun-2008 14:42:04] <ckrough> ie; ${dev/id}
[03-Jun-2008 14:45:25] <twm1010> im pretty sure its in the appendix in the admin guide
[03-Jun-2008 14:45:57] <ckrough> thanks
[03-Jun-2008 14:46:01] <twm1010> also look in the alerting section
[03-Jun-2008 14:46:04] <twm1010> where you edit the messages
[03-Jun-2008 14:53:44] <twm1010> Is anyone monitoring HP or IBM san storage w/Zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 14:55:10] <magnachef> netapp
[03-Jun-2008 14:57:26] <pitillo> I am not sure if this is related directly to zenoss (I think it doesn't) but may be someone can give me a hint about google maps. Anyone know if is it possible to put the point googlemaps gave to the end of a street instead of the begining?
[03-Jun-2008 14:58:59] <pitillo> pfff, using the number does the trick, sorry.
[03-Jun-2008 15:14:05] <ckrough> twm1010: I assume you were referring to the TALES section of the doc. it shows what appear to be some objects, but I can
[03-Jun-2008 15:14:30] <ckrough> cant seem to find definitions like ${dev/id} as compared to "getId"
[03-Jun-2008 15:19:14] <mib_698587> Hi guys..
[03-Jun-2008 15:20:10] <ckrough> hi
[03-Jun-2008 15:20:58] <mib_698587> I am tring to set traps to be sent to an Email address, is the SMTP host the name of the Mail server?
[03-Jun-2008 15:21:36] <ckrough> SMTP is the sendmail host, which could be localhost if you are running sendmail on the server
[03-Jun-2008 15:21:46] <ckrough> which is most liktely the case
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:09] <mib_698587> I get confused right there..
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:33] <mib_698587> The company is running their own groupwise Email server
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:44] <ckrough> what OS is the Zenoss server
[03-Jun-2008 15:22:57] <mib_698587> CentoOS 5.1
[03-Jun-2008 15:24:18] <ckrough> it would be easiest to have zenoss send to the local sendmail process and let that route the email. The local sendmail should know to send the emails to the proper destination (groupwise) via the MX DNS record for the domain. In short, they using the localhost as the smtp server. Make sure you are running sendmail (default) on the server.
[03-Jun-2008 15:25:42] <mib_698587> DO you know if there is a documentation for this?..the manual is kind of short in details
[03-Jun-2008 15:27:21] <ckrough> rofl
[03-Jun-2008 15:27:32] <ckrough> yeah, thats a common sentiment
[03-Jun-2008 15:28:02] <ckrough> you said you were sending traps to email addresses, you mean you are sending alerts to email addreses?
[03-Jun-2008 15:28:59] <mib_698587> my boss wants traps or notifications to be send to an external Email address for monitoring purposes
[03-Jun-2008 15:29:40] <mib_698587> The zenoss server is a default installation, and it looks af if sendmail was enable by default..
[03-Jun-2008 15:31:59] <ckrough> it should Just Work (tm) with the defaults, I think
[03-Jun-2008 15:32:27] <ckrough> with localhost as the smtp server
[03-Jun-2008 15:32:58] <ckrough> "/sbin/chkconfig --list sendmail"
[03-Jun-2008 15:33:09] <ckrough> should show it "on" on 2 3 4 5
[03-Jun-2008 15:36:21] <mib_698587> let me check
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:16] <mib_698587> yes it is..
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:22] <mib_698587> what is my next step?
[03-Jun-2008 15:38:31] <mib_698587> please help me out
[03-Jun-2008 15:44:10] <ckrough> what isnt; working? are you not getting emails from it?
[03-Jun-2008 15:46:23] <jb> ok
[03-Jun-2008 15:46:37] <jb> just curious.. anyone here monitoring F5 bigips?
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:04] <magnachef> sort of...not very well though
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:27] <ckrough> nay
[03-Jun-2008 15:47:54] <jb> magnachef: what all are you doing with them?
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:01] <jb> recieving SNMP traps of course
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:13] <jb> but, I would like more informative info.. not just "bigIPNodeUp/Down"
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:17] <jb> i would like to know WHICH node is going up/down
[03-Jun-2008 15:48:29] <jb> so im gonna mess with syslog-ng on the bigip's and try to forward these alerts to zen
[03-Jun-2008 15:49:34] <magnachef> well, I'm not getting any perf data at the moment
[03-Jun-2008 15:50:44] <magnachef> just interface perf
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:08] <magnachef> it can't find the speed of the interface, so it just shows "unknown"
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:14] <jb> hm
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:17] <jb> are these LTMs?
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:20] <mib_698587> well, I want those traps to go to an external email...how do I set that up..?
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:40] <jb> just configure alerts
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:42] <magnachef> LTMs? I don't know that TLA
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:44] <jb> and then they will be sent via email
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:54] <jb> LTM == bigip load traffic monitor
[03-Jun-2008 15:51:56] <mib_698587> let me check that
[03-Jun-2008 15:52:32] <twm1010> Is Zenoss setup with a user account on that e-mail system?
[03-Jun-2008 15:53:16] <magnachef> jb: not sure. BIG-IP Kernel 4
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:28] <jb> you are running 4.x?
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:31] <jb> wow dude thats old :P
[03-Jun-2008 15:54:38] <magnachef> yeah
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:00] <jb> all of our's are running 9.3.1
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:26] <magnachef> that seems like a big difference
[03-Jun-2008 15:55:32] <magnachef> so you're running kernel 9
[03-Jun-2008 15:56:32] <magnachef> not my realm of responsibility though :)
[03-Jun-2008 15:57:54] <jb> ah i manage the bigips..
[03-Jun-2008 16:01:00] <magnachef> any idea why my interface speeds would show up as Unknown though. Seems like snmpwalks are returning the data
[03-Jun-2008 16:01:37] <twm1010> that is definitely quite odd
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:44] <jb> hm
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:49] <jb> i just noticed that my MIB's did not import correctly
[03-Jun-2008 16:02:53] <jb> they are showing 0 mappings/traps
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:46] <jb> not sure yet magna
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:49] <jb> i'll let you know how mine goes
[03-Jun-2008 16:03:55] <jb> if I can get these MIB's loaded correctly
[03-Jun-2008 16:04:34] <jb> have you guys imported mib's into 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 16:07:46] <jb> there we go
[03-Jun-2008 16:20:12] <twm1010> nope, did you ever figure out which folder to use?
[03-Jun-2008 16:22:56] <mib_698587> after checking sendmail.../sbin/chkconfig --list sendmail
[03-Jun-2008 16:23:21] <mib_698587> shows "on" on 2 3 4 5
[03-Jun-2008 16:23:48] <mib_698587> I am lost here about the next step to setup email alerst
[03-Jun-2008 16:24:21] <mib_698587> I am trying to setup email alerts for 2 Nortel PBXs
[03-Jun-2008 16:32:11] <jwaugh_> Can somebody send me a screen shot of what a working Windows XP status page should look like? I'm trying to figure it out and documentation on XP is pretty non-existent
[03-Jun-2008 16:32:14] <jwaugh_> I'm wondering if I can monitor windows services and everything as well
[03-Jun-2008 16:33:15] <jb> twm1010: you can use any dir..
[03-Jun-2008 16:36:16] <mib_698587> anyone having problem with Zenmib run command?
[03-Jun-2008 16:37:47] <mib_698587> in version 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 16:58:43] <mib_698587> Anyone having problems when running Zenmib on version 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:20] <mib_698587> here is the solution: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6003&highlight=zenmib
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:41] <mib_698587> I just do not know how to create those symbolic links...
[03-Jun-2008 17:11:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenoss 2.2 - Issue importing mibs using Zenmib (at community.zenoss.com)
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:09] <nemo_> jb: i noted some mibs install nothing / nada / zip
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:30] <nemo_> but correctly loaded mibs go into /opt/zenoss/....../share/mibs/
[03-Jun-2008 17:13:37] <nemo_> or similar
[03-Jun-2008 17:15:36] <mib_698587> The issue is that Zenmib is not working, and I am issuing command under the "Zenoss" user
[03-Jun-2008 17:16:32] <mib_698587> in CentOS 5.1 the path is /usr/local/zenoss/common/share/mibs/
[03-Jun-2008 17:35:04] <nemo_> its still /opt/zenoss in my centos5.1
[03-Jun-2008 17:35:07] <nemo_> but yes i dig
[03-Jun-2008 17:37:24] <twm1010> admin manual points to $ZENHOME/share/mibs/site
[03-Jun-2008 17:45:36] <mib_698587> the path information is all over the place...I know whrer mine is
[03-Jun-2008 17:46:14] <mib_698587> where is the $ZENHOME variable declared...what file?
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:05] <nemo_> echo $ZEN_HOME as zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:09] <magnachef> ~/bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:13] <nemo_> if that doesnt work, something is broken
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:14] <magnachef> .bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:47] <magnachef> that's where the variable is create for the zenoss user's shell
[03-Jun-2008 17:47:57] <magnachef> you won't have it defined as any other user
[03-Jun-2008 17:49:24] <mib_698587> the problem I am having is that..
[03-Jun-2008 17:49:55] <mib_698587> Zenmib is not working as a Zenoss user, since I installed version 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:50:37] <magnachef> ahhh
[03-Jun-2008 17:50:40] <mib_698587> The link I posted above tothe forums show how to fix it..I just do not know how to make a symbolic link for zenmib to work
[03-Jun-2008 17:51:35] <magnachef> sudo ln -s current_file new_link_file
[03-Jun-2008 17:51:47] <mib_698587> according to the post a The simple fix:= create symbolic links in $ZENHOME to "share" and "libexec" folders.
[03-Jun-2008 17:52:28] <mib_698587> can you translate that to a command using what I just gave you
[03-Jun-2008 17:52:52] <mib_698587> did you have that problem with 2.2?
[03-Jun-2008 17:53:35] <magnachef> so within /opt/zenoss, create symbolic links to the share and libexec folders that are elsewhere on the system
[03-Jun-2008 17:53:48] <magnachef> no, I was smart and stayed with 2.1.3 :-)
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:20] <magnachef> the best bet is to wait a couple weeks until 2.2.1 comes out
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:41] <magnachef> not sure if that's not an option
[03-Jun-2008 17:54:56] <magnachef> what share and libexecs are you supposed to be linking to?
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:18] <mib_698587> I can't wait as my boss want this resolved today....did you hear anyone talking about this...
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:29] <magnachef> because share and libexec should already be in that directory
[03-Jun-2008 17:55:41] <magnachef> dunno
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:11] <mib_698587> Issue 1: New location of "share" and "libexec" folders! (Ubuntu 8.04 - Zenoss 2.2)
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:25] <mib_698587> The location of the the "share" and "libexec" folders has been changed in Zenoss 2.2
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:39] <mib_698587> New location: /usr/local/zenoss/common/
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:52] <magnachef> IMHO, I wouldn't be running a server application on Ubuntu, but that's me
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:52] <mib_698587> Previous location: $ZENHOME/
[03-Jun-2008 17:56:57] <twm1010> interesting... i wonder how this affects the appliance
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:05] <mib_698587> Note: In Zenoss 2.2 $ZENHOME=/usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:08] <magnachef> use CentOS or something like that
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:17] <mib_698587> The simple fix:= create symbolic links in $ZENHOME to "share" and "libexec" folders.
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:31] <mib_698587> Possible? script fix:= Modify the "def zenpath" definition in $ZENHOME/Products/Zenutils/Utils.py file?
[03-Jun-2008 17:57:50] <magnachef> that's the thing...share and libexec should already be in /opt/zenoss - where did they go?!
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:20] <mib_698587> don't know..
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:39] <mib_698587> the mibs path has also moved..
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:57] <jb> no
[03-Jun-2008 17:58:59] <jb> just create it
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:04] <mib_698587> before fix: NFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SNMPv2-SMI
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:09] <jb> then cwd to it and run "zenmib run"
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:28] <mib_698587> after fix: INFO:zen.zenmib:Skipping file /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/share/mibs/irtf/IRTF-NMRG-SMING-EXTENSIONS
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:38] <mib_698587> how do I fix it..
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:42] <mib_698587> I am sorry..
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:53] <magnachef> try doing what jb suggested
[03-Jun-2008 17:59:54] <mib_698587> I am not that good with Linux..I do try
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:01] <magnachef> just mkdir /opt/zenoss/share
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:17] <mib_698587> and that is..
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:22] <mib_698587> it
[03-Jun-2008 18:00:46] <magnachef> well, you may need to make all the necessary sub directories
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:08] <magnachef> did you make a backup?
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:13] <mib_698587> no..
[03-Jun-2008 18:01:32] <mib_698587> I will before I try anyhting
[03-Jun-2008 18:03:15] <magnachef> I'd hate to say this, but are you able to do a rebuild from scratch?
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:00] <mib_698587> yes I can..it will set me back big time..
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:13] <mib_698587> magna...I need to get this done today..
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:25] <magnachef> or you'll waste your time trying to fix it
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:32] <mib_698587> there is only one post in the fotrumd about this
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:34] <magnachef> there's been a slew of issues with the upgrade
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:38] <mib_698587> how could thids be
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:39] <magnachef> this may be the first of many
[03-Jun-2008 18:04:48] * magnachef shrugs
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:15] <mib_698587> the thing is that ....previous versions never worked for me..
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:41] <magnachef> really?! Were others able to get it working on ubuntu?
[03-Jun-2008 18:05:47] <mib_698587> I spent all of my time fixing them just to get it to a half decent working state
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:03] <mib_698587> thei is the only version that I can actually see results
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:13] <magnachef> well, any NMS system is going to take time to configure and setup to your liking
[03-Jun-2008 18:06:46] <mib_698587> this is a much better product this time around..
[03-Jun-2008 18:07:34] <mib_698587> and if I get this resolved today and setup traps to go to an Email address, I will look like a hero, at least for one day
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:00] <magnachef> why don't you get traps creating events, then have the events send emails
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:08] <magnachef> do it that way
[03-Jun-2008 18:08:21] <magnachef> or is that what you mean?
[03-Jun-2008 18:09:02] <punkcut> I currently have zenoss 2.2 running on Centos 5.1 - however its refusing to populate the installed software fields and is treating CentOS as an unknown OS. - any advice on how to resolve this?
[03-Jun-2008 18:10:21] <punkcut> the SNMP hrinstalledsoftware section does have the rpm information. It just doesnt seem like zenoss is pulling it.
[03-Jun-2008 18:19:39] <magnachef> I'm on CentOS 4.6, and same issue...I'm curious as how to fix that as well
[03-Jun-2008 18:19:57] <magnachef> that that high on my priority list, unfortunately
[03-Jun-2008 18:24:37] <twm1010> if you SNMP walk the device, does this software come up?
[03-Jun-2008 18:25:07] <punkcut> of course
[03-Jun-2008 18:25:49] <punkcut> ive pretty much leveled my SNMP config down to a rocommunity line just to ensure i wasnt being stupid
[03-Jun-2008 18:26:45] <punkcut> twm1010, ^
[03-Jun-2008 18:27:01] <magnachef> could it be something with the collectors enabled?
[03-Jun-2008 18:27:40] <punkcut> magnachef, like?
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:10] <magnachef> not sure if there's a specific software resource collector that needs to be added
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:13] <punkcut> magnachef, only one collector enabled and only monitoring a couple of VMs on the same subnet
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:31] <punkcut> magnachef, I installed the core-zenpacks package... sooo....
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:46] <twm1010> What device class is the system in?
[03-Jun-2008 18:28:57] <punkcut> everything is
[03-Jun-2008 18:29:05] <punkcut> '/device/server/linux'
[03-Jun-2008 18:31:46] <ckrough> argh. I have RRD files that are not updating and really dont want to solve this by rebooting the services again. I've tried pushing changes and remodeling to no avail. anyone know any tricks to figuring out the root-cause on stale RRD files?
[03-Jun-2008 18:33:19] <magnachef> zenperfsnmp.log - check for timeouts
[03-Jun-2008 18:35:18] <magnachef> also make sure that you're able to properly walk the device, and that the community string settings, etc are working
[03-Jun-2008 18:38:27] <skunkwerk__> i'm new to zenoss - and have 2 questions:
[03-Jun-2008 18:38:45] <skunkwerk__> 1) can it restart services that have crashed, like monit... ie event handlers
[03-Jun-2008 18:39:45] <skunkwerk__> 2) can i send reports from others servers to the main servers without manually adding each one's IP address for authentication (because the number of servers will scale up/down)
[03-Jun-2008 18:41:59] <magnachef> I don't think it restarts services by default, but can run comands from interface - or use something like puppet/cfengine
[03-Jun-2008 18:42:44] <magnachef> not sure what you're asking for #2
[03-Jun-2008 18:45:59] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: thanks... 2) is basically how a cluster of machines can send data to the main reporting server (the one with a web server), and how they get authenticated. i have machines that are coming online/offline with IP addresses that aren't in the same subnet or anything so can't authenticate that way. how does zenoss do it?
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:24] <ckrough> you have pollers on dhcp?
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:26] <magnachef> well, they use SNMP
[03-Jun-2008 18:46:42] <magnachef> Zenoss polls them via SNMP and receives traps and syslogs
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:15] <magnachef> or you could do it through an SNMP proxy I suppose if you can't get direct access to all machines on a network
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:17] <ckrough> I think he means he's doing a distributed install with multiple pollers. why do the pollers change addresses/networks?
[03-Jun-2008 18:47:42] <skunkwerk__> ckrough: i'm using amazon ec2 virtual machines
[03-Jun-2008 18:48:28] <magnachef> hmmm...I know the enterprise version allows for distributed architecture
[03-Jun-2008 18:48:41] <skunkwerk__> by 'polling' wouldn't you have to specify the IP addresses to poll ahead of time? or does snmp have some way of new machines registering with the zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:05] <magnachef> there are auto discoveries that it can do on networks
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:08] <magnachef> or network segments
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:20] <magnachef> punkcut: I figured out the software problem
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:28] <punkcut> magnachef, do tell?
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:44] <ckrough> which obviously be a problem from ec2, unless you are monitoring some subnet on public ip space
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:45] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: i read about that, but again the machines might not be in the same subnet, and other machines that aren't mine might be
[03-Jun-2008 18:49:45] <magnachef> go to /Devices/Server/Linux
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:11] <magnachef> skunk: you should post to the forums
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:21] <skunkwerk__> magnachef: will do so, thanks for the pointers
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:35] <ckrough> thats a interesting idea though. check out mosso as well, not sure if we have different features that you could use vs ec2
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:49] <ckrough> http://www.mosso.com/
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:50] <magnachef> skunk: that may require more discussion that just the IRC lurkers can provide
[03-Jun-2008 18:50:56] <adytum-bot> Title: MOSSO :: The Hosting Cloud - Home (at www.mosso.com)
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:11] <magnachef> punkcut: then click the down arrove menu
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:17] <skunkwerk__> thanks guys, i'll post to the forum
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:30] <punkcut> magnachef, k
[03-Jun-2008 18:51:34] <magnachef> punk: then go to More -> Collector Plugins
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:04] <punkcut> im following.
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:12] <magnachef> then click on "Add Fields"
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:36] <punkcut> not seeing that
[03-Jun-2008 18:52:43] <magnachef> and click and drag from the right box the "zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap"
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:03] <magnachef> do you see a box with a list of collectors?
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:07] <punkcut> magnachef, ok i found it. thanks ill give that a shot
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:19] <magnachef> so move that over to the left box, then save
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:20] <punkcut> magnachef, the add fields button is light grey on a grey background. hard to see.
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:24] <magnachef> then remodel the device
[03-Jun-2008 18:53:36] <magnachef> yeah, it is subtle
[03-Jun-2008 18:54:14] <magnachef> it will lengthen your remodeling time by a lot (at least for me it did)
[03-Jun-2008 18:54:39] <punkcut> python shat itself.
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:00] <magnachef> hmm...is it still remodeling?
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:05] <punkcut> seems like it
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:47] <punkcut> http://pastebin.ca/1037976
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:48] <magnachef> cool, then check the software tab when it's done and you should see it
[03-Jun-2008 18:55:55] <adytum-bot> Title: general pastebin - Someone - post number 1037976 (at pastebin.ca)
[03-Jun-2008 18:56:05] <punkcut> magnachef, ive got a meeting to goto. I will be back in a little while. Thanks for all the help.
[03-Jun-2008 18:56:46] <magnachef> good luck
[03-Jun-2008 20:07:18] aedaemoe1 is now known as aedaemoen
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:12] <mib_698587> I just found this out as I was trying to install mibs as a zenoss user:
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:16] <mib_698587> su zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:38] <magnachef> yeah, you need to do that to become the zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:49] <magnachef> were you not running the zenmib as the zenoss user before
[03-Jun-2008 20:15:58] <mib_698587> hold down i am not done
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:01] <mib_698587> bash: /home/zenoss/ .bashrc: permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:24] <mib_698587> bash-3.1$
[03-Jun-2008 20:17:50] <mib_698587> that is what I am getting, when I go in as a zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:07] <magnachef> do: ls /home/
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:34] <mib_698587> I get zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:18:43] <magnachef> ls -l
[03-Jun-2008 20:19:13] <mib_698587> do you want me to do this as a zenoss user?
[03-Jun-2008 20:20:00] <magnachef> try root or sudo
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:23] <mib_698587> I am in root home and I get the usual files...Desktop and files..
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:24] <magnachef> and see what the permissions are of the .bashrc file
[03-Jun-2008 20:21:43] <magnachef> ls -la /home/zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:23:13] <mib_698587> rw- r-- r-- 1
[03-Jun-2008 20:24:04] <mib_698587> is that good?
[03-Jun-2008 20:26:56] <jb> ok guys.. i think im gonna build a BIGIP zenpack
[03-Jun-2008 20:27:01] <jb> for anyone interested
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:06] <jb> just got to figure out the proper way to create a zenpack
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:20] <mib_698587> how come my zenoss user is restricted?
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:35] <mib_698587> I do su zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:29:58] <mib_698587> I do get the bash prompt but I also get the permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:31:29] <jb> i have no idea what you are talking about
[03-Jun-2008 20:31:54] <mib_698587> when I go in as a zenoss user to install Mibs
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:25] <pitillo> mib_698587, chmod u+x /home/zenoss/.bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:33] <mib_698587> I do get the bash-3.1$ prompt and inmediately followed by "permission denied"
[03-Jun-2008 20:32:51] <mib_698587> thanks, let me try that
[03-Jun-2008 20:33:12] <mib_698587> do I do this a root or zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:33:18] <mib_698587> as root?
[03-Jun-2008 20:34:35] <pitillo> if you (zenoss user) are the owner of that file, you can do it like the user, if not, you must do it like root and then own the file to the zenoss user
[03-Jun-2008 20:35:33] <mib_698587> I'll try firts as root
[03-Jun-2008 20:37:46] <mib_698587> I can only do it as root, as zenoss user I get permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:08] <pitillo> mib_698587, own the file for zenoss user then
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:13] <mib_698587> then I went back in as zenoss user and I got a permission denied again
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:48] <pitillo> mib_698587, chown zenoss .bashrc
[03-Jun-2008 20:38:54] <mib_698587> I can't since zenoss user is restricted, I am not able to take ownership
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:24] <mib_698587> I am basically trying to run anything as Zenoss user and I am getting permission denied
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:28] <pitillo> if you chow like root you can't too?
[03-Jun-2008 20:39:38] <mib_698587> let me try
[03-Jun-2008 20:40:44] <mib_698587> did you mean: chown zenoss /home/zenoss/.bashrc ?
[03-Jun-2008 20:42:07] <mib_698587> I am still getting permission denied..
[03-Jun-2008 20:42:57] <mib_698587> This CENTOS 5.1 and zenoss version 2.2......paths are edifferent for each distro
[03-Jun-2008 20:43:25] <mib_698587> and I thinks that sthe problem..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:03] <pitillo> I can't help too much, I modified paths for my needs
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:12] <mib_698587> thank you..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:35] <mib_698587> I do really need the help, but I am been pulled into a meeting...
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:40] <mib_698587> thank you again..
[03-Jun-2008 20:44:49] <punkcut> mib_698587, this is something to do with your linux system not zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:45:04] <punkcut> mib_698587, sudo chown -R zenoss.zenoss /home/zenoss
[03-Jun-2008 20:45:21] <punkcut> magnachef, you around?
[03-Jun-2008 20:50:00] <magnachef> yep
[03-Jun-2008 20:50:27] <magnachef> jb: I'm very interested
[03-Jun-2008 20:51:56] <magnachef> what's up punkcut?
[03-Jun-2008 20:52:14] <magnachef> does the software tab populate now for you?
[03-Jun-2008 20:54:07] <punkcut> magnachef, aye it does. did you happen to take a look at that traceback?
[03-Jun-2008 20:54:37] <punkcut> magnachef, are you a contributer to zenoss?
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:06] <magnachef> I did briefly...no, I'm not a zenoss dev
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:26] <punkcut> magnachef, im not a python expert or anything but it looks like its failing out when the ssh authentication fields are NULL. maybe thats intended behavior but im guessing it should probably return a more legible error message instead of faulting.
[03-Jun-2008 20:55:29] <magnachef> I belive it's an error with one of your collector plugins
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:08] <punkcut> os.getlogin() exceptions.OSError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:09] <magnachef> what plugin was displayed before this error
[03-Jun-2008 20:56:21] <punkcut> sorry didnt catch that. lemme replicate.
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:04] <punkcut> i cant really tell which one it is...
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:12] <punkcut> or can i?
[03-Jun-2008 20:57:46] <magnachef> it should list the plugins it's going through
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:09] <punkcut> it does but the error pops up about the same time it spontaneously spews forth every module
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:19] <punkcut> 2008-06-03 04:21:59 WARNING zen.ZenModeler Reconnected to ZenHub
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:32] <punkcut> right about there. and then it throws the rest of the log
[03-Jun-2008 20:58:52] <punkcut> from the look of the traceback though id take a stab at this one - 2008-06-03 04:22:00 INFO zen.ZenModeler using ssh collection device puppetmaster.localdomain
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:19] <magnachef> hmmm...not sure exactly. I had an issue similar to this and just had to remove a collector plugin that wasn't working
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:28] <magnachef> nice, I see you're running puppet ;-)
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:41] <punkcut> :-)
[03-Jun-2008 20:59:57] <punkcut> i do however plan on using the ssh collector plugin
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:10] <punkcut> we are running an internal app which is going to need to be monitored using some simple scripts
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:26] <magnachef> the issues seems to be that it's failing to log in, and the collector is getting null data, and throwing an error about it
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:40] <magnachef> you should post to the forums
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:45] <punkcut> agreed, which is why im assuming its because my ssh creds are NULL.
[03-Jun-2008 21:00:54] <punkcut> one way to confirm. if i can confirm i will file a buggy
[03-Jun-2008 21:01:00] <magnachef> or search through the forums and see if anyone has had this issue before
[03-Jun-2008 21:09:15] <cbleach> are you using key or password authentication?
[03-Jun-2008 21:31:05] djs26 is now known as djs
[03-Jun-2008 22:01:26] <cbleach> I had a similar problem with 1.x version of Zenoss when using a key with required a password.
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[04-Jun-2008 00:11:51] <jcesario> I have a quick question? what is the default password for the zenoss user on the OS level?
[04-Jun-2008 00:23:11] <ckrough> hello
[04-Jun-2008 00:42:57] <ckrough> .win 1
[04-Jun-2008 01:10:26] <punkcut> I have a quick question? what is the default password for the zenoss user on the OS level?
[04-Jun-2008 01:13:24] * charlieS doesn't think one is set.. just su to zenoss as root
[04-Jun-2008 01:17:28] <punkcut> then you bypass
[04-Jun-2008 01:17:40] <punkcut> there is most definitely a password set. look at the entry for zenoss in /etc/shadow
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[04-Jun-2008 09:04:40] <stintel> good morning / timezone all
[04-Jun-2008 09:05:52] <stintel> is there any way to make Zenoss ignore loop mounted isos ?
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[04-Jun-2008 11:52:43] <mib_698587> Why my CENTOS 5.1 and Ver. 2.2 have a problem with the zenoss user?
[04-Jun-2008 11:53:12] <mib_698587> I can't do nothing with that user, it is giving me a "Permission Denied"
[04-Jun-2008 12:17:01] <tarjei> hi, does zenoss run it's own syslog daemon that collects logging?
[04-Jun-2008 12:17:14] <tarjei> If, so, is it set up in the basic configuration=
[04-Jun-2008 12:26:19] <nemo> i suggest you read the admin guide ? but yes it does
[04-Jun-2008 12:36:26] <mib_698587> is there away to backup my coollected devices with their configuration in order to do a re-install?
[04-Jun-2008 12:36:59] <mib_698587> somehow, my zenoss user does not work...it gets permission denied in every command
[04-Jun-2008 12:46:55] <pitillo> mib_698587, take a look to the directory where you installed zenoss and check owner and permissions
[04-Jun-2008 12:47:55] <pitillo> # ls -la /usr/share/zenoss/
[04-Jun-2008 12:47:55] <pitillo> drwxr-xr-x 19 zenoss zenoss 528 Jun 2 15:56 .
[04-Jun-2008 12:48:51] <pitillo> this is my case, check your $ZENHOME dir
[04-Jun-2008 12:57:39] <mib_698587> are yoyu still there
[04-Jun-2008 13:02:49] <pitillo> this is irc... if you don't see a nick leaving, I think we are here (may be people is busy, be patient)
[04-Jun-2008 13:04:15] <mib_698587> sure will
[04-Jun-2008 13:05:04] <mib_698587> ls -la /usr/share/zenoss/ gave me nothing at the prompt....no such file or directory
[04-Jun-2008 13:05:31] <mib_698587> this is a centOS 5.1 install, maybe paths are different
[04-Jun-2008 13:06:06] <mib_698587> zenoss user has not rights to anything..
[04-Jun-2008 13:06:42] <mib_698587> would be better to do a re-install? and If I do...how do I keep my devices and their configuration?
[04-Jun-2008 13:07:03] <pitillo> mib_698587, that is why I told you that path was in my case. Take a look to your $ZENHOME dir and check permissions and the owner
[04-Jun-2008 13:08:20] <pitillo> (I think I can't help too much, here I used the source and patched to my needs)
[04-Jun-2008 13:09:31] <pitillo> but I think it musn't be so hard, try to locate zenos installation dir and check what I told you. I hope someone can read this and if he's using centos installation can give you a clue in the case I am making you wasting your time checking things that must be done automatically in centos installations
[04-Jun-2008 13:10:23] <mib_698587> that was my point about re-installing, where I do not want to continue investing time on something that is flawed to begin with
[04-Jun-2008 13:11:07] <pitillo> well, think that may be that solution (re-installing) will point you at the same point you are now
[04-Jun-2008 13:11:26] <mib_698587> I am really dissapointed of this version...it was going so well...and today was my presentation to my staff...and now I have nothing
[04-Jun-2008 13:12:08] <pitillo> I am waiting to present my installation to my boss... but he seems isn't too much interested xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:12:52] <mib_698587> it does not seem to be so common what is happening to me as I can not find much info on the forums
[04-Jun-2008 13:13:32] <mib_698587> well yesterday my big boss looked over my shoulder and he was pretty impressed...but now I do have concerns about going forward
[04-Jun-2008 13:13:34] <pitillo> btw, I think it's a good app (using nagios and cacti here too) that can be tunned to our needs easily (and I only setup my network and some locations, only some snmp checks and not much more, next step is seting up alerts related to some servers and net devices)
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:20] <pitillo> mib_698587, I think you are missing some linux knowledge (may be I am in wrong, but that was my impression about file permissions bits)
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:44] <mib_698587> that is where the gola was...setup alerts an Email notification and that way we could do away with $40k support service
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:52] <mib_698587> gola=goal
[04-Jun-2008 13:14:59] <pitillo> lol 40K
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:00] <mib_698587> pitillo=straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:00] <pitillo> xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:18] <pitillo> straw?
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:34] <mib_698587> pitillo is spanish for straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:15:38] <mib_698587> drinking straw
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:02] <pitillo> nop
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:13] <pitillo> pitillo=cigarrette
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:23] <pitillo> smoking pitillos xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:16:59] <mib_698587> bet you did not know that
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:20] <mib_698587> italian..right
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:34] <pitillo> yeah, I didn't know the meaning of straw... Here we call cigarretes straw too
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:43] <pitillo> mib_698587, nop, I'm spaniard :)
[04-Jun-2008 13:17:56] <mib_698587> espania
[04-Jun-2008 13:18:03] <mib_698587> Colombia
[04-Jun-2008 13:18:59] <mib_698587> My sister in-law is from Spain...YIKES !!
[04-Jun-2008 13:19:31] <pitillo> :)
[04-Jun-2008 13:21:11] <mib_698587> asturias
[04-Jun-2008 13:21:49] <pitillo> north of spain... good fish there :)
[04-Jun-2008 13:23:34] <mib_698587> so I hear
[04-Jun-2008 13:23:48] <mib_698587> I hope one day I could visit
[04-Jun-2008 13:24:03] <mib_698587> I love Mariscos....PAELLA
[04-Jun-2008 13:24:45] <pitillo> xD
[04-Jun-2008 13:25:03] <pitillo> well, I don't want to seem rude, but may be this talk isn't welcome here :)
[04-Jun-2008 13:29:43] <mib_698587> sure...be rude..
[04-Jun-2008 13:30:03] <mib_698587> we are probably the only one within 2 hours
[04-Jun-2008 13:32:23] <pitillo> yeah, but think this is a channel related to zenoss, not related to our things
[04-Jun-2008 13:32:47] <pitillo> may be you can create another one called zenoss-ot to talk with people from the comunity about things off topic to this channel :)
[04-Jun-2008 13:33:01] <pitillo> it's some kind of policy and politness
[04-Jun-2008 13:42:39] <mib_698587> well then...back to bussiness
[04-Jun-2008 13:44:54] <mib_698587> I am trying to uninstall and I can't find the uninstall the string by using "rpm -e zenoss"....weird
[04-Jun-2008 13:46:37] <pitillo> mib_698587, I think you are going from bad to worse... have you tried to look for the zenoss installation directory and check what I said?
[04-Jun-2008 13:55:48] <twm1010> Morning.
[04-Jun-2008 13:56:21] <pitillo> hey :)
[04-Jun-2008 13:57:36] <twm1010> Has anyone had their device list stop functioning?
[04-Jun-2008 13:58:54] <pitillo> twm1010, well this morning I had it (all classes btw, not only devices) Reading the error report in my case solved the problem (problem with mysql passwd)
[04-Jun-2008 13:59:27] <pitillo> not sure if this is related to your error
[04-Jun-2008 13:59:47] <twm1010> Mine happened with the 2.2 upgrade
[04-Jun-2008 14:00:03] <twm1010> The device list will only show devices that you have looked at the status page for
[04-Jun-2008 14:00:43] <pitillo> twm1010, I have a fresh 2.2.0 install here, but seems my error was another issue not related to yours, sorry.
[04-Jun-2008 14:02:15] <twm1010> doh! thanks anyway
[04-Jun-2008 14:34:29] <pitillo> ummm I have a little question, I am monitoring a cisco router with snmp and I want to know if is it possible to make a graf of 1 interface (I want to see trunk usage).
[04-Jun-2008 14:35:11] <pitillo> sorry if it's explained at guide (I haven't finished it yet)
[04-Jun-2008 14:35:54] <pitillo> I think I need more reading before asking things.
[04-Jun-2008 14:43:39] <pitillo> pfff there is an entire section dedicated to graphs.... sorry
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:15] <twm1010> pitillo
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:23] <twm1010> just hit the os tab, and click on the interface
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:29] <jb> twm, do you know much about snmp?
[04-Jun-2008 14:56:57] <twm1010> Not intricately, but i know the basics
[04-Jun-2008 14:58:44] <twm1010> What are you after?
[04-Jun-2008 15:09:55] <jb> just trying to figure out some OID's
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:03] <jb> f5 is telling me this
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:09] <jb> TMM Mem Usage
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:10] <jb> sysStatMemoryUsed (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45)
[04-Jun-2008 15:10:14] <jb> so
[04-Jun-2008 15:11:04] <pitillo> omg twm1010, thank you very much. Was easier than I was thinking...
[04-Jun-2008 15:11:37] <pitillo> nice, all it's being graphed then
[04-Jun-2008 15:12:06] <twm1010> Yep
[04-Jun-2008 15:12:16] <twm1010> jb: ok and?
[04-Jun-2008 15:13:50] <jb> ok so
[04-Jun-2008 15:13:51] <jb> sysHostMemoryUsed (.1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.7.2)
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~$ snmpwalk -c fcsnmp1ro -v 1 bigip .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.7.2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.1.0 = INTEGER: 2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.1.2 = INTEGER: 2
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.2.1 = INTEGER: 0
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:12] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.7.2.2.1.2.2 = INTEGER: 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:19] <jb> i would have thought it would return one integer
[04-Jun-2008 15:14:34] <nemo_> no .string !
[04-Jun-2008 15:16:14] <jb> hm?
[04-Jun-2008 15:17:45] <twm1010> well clearly there are values below that in the tree, do you have the MIB?
[04-Jun-2008 15:20:23] <jb> yeah
[04-Jun-2008 15:20:57] <twm1010> And what does it say the values below that are?
[04-Jun-2008 15:21:03] <twm1010> maybe they're a detailed breakdown
[04-Jun-2008 15:24:19] <magnachef> has anyone experience major system degradation after adding the zenoss.snmp.hrSWInstalledMap collector?
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:27] <jb> ok
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:38] <jb> i think one problem is i need to use v2c
[04-Jun-2008 15:29:43] <jb> and i think zenoss is querying using 1
[04-Jun-2008 15:31:16] <jb> wonder if there is a way to change this?
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:31] <pitillo> jb, I changed yesterday in settings menu and there in commands, editting the snmp query
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:34] <magnachef> zProperties at that class
[04-Jun-2008 15:33:41] <mib_698587> Can anyone help me set my path straight for the Zenoss user, everything I do with it is permission denied....I am using zenoss 2.2
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:01] <pitillo> (if someone can tell a better way to do that I can be glad too)
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:17] <magnachef> jb: change the zSnmpVer to 2c for that class
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:20] <mib_698587> or maybe help me to uninstall and save my devices
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:26] <pitillo> magnachef, oh that's nice. I didn't think on that (btw, here we are using v2c in all snmp)
[04-Jun-2008 15:34:49] <magnachef> yeah, I have a mix
[04-Jun-2008 15:35:03] <jb> thanks :)
[04-Jun-2008 15:36:38] <pitillo> it's good to know and think in z-properties better than changing it in a general way. Thank you for that tip. Taking note :)
[04-Jun-2008 15:36:59] <magnachef> yep
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:33] <jb> arg
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:34] <jb> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error reading value for "TMM Mem Usage" on fc-f5-03.follett.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45 is bad)
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:36] <jb> this is bs :)
[04-Jun-2008 15:37:49] <mib_698587> there is a z-property for each devices, they are applied inheritanly but could be changed at the local level
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:05] <magnachef> it can be at the device or class level
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:11] <jb> Executing command against fc-f5-03.follett.com
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:11] <jb> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.3375.2.1.1.2.1.45.0 = Counter64: 23890444
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:12] <jb> DONE in 0 seconds
[04-Jun-2008 15:38:24] <jb> why the hell is it saying it's a bad OID
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:14] <magnachef> because you don't have the .0 at the end of the OID
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:27] <magnachef> I'm guessing
[04-Jun-2008 15:39:45] <mib_6985
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