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[01-Jul-2008 06:17:05] <exkev> anyone alive who understands the snmp trap decoding?
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:00] <exkev> I've got OSPF-TRAP-MIB imported, it's declared various oid mappings, including ospfTraps 1.3.6.1.2.1.14.16.2 as 'node'
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:26] <exkev> all traps are below that node's oid, e.g. 1.3.6.1.2.1.14.16.2.10, and those are defined in the traps section
[01-Jul-2008 06:18:39] <exkev> (ie zport/dmd/Mibs/mibs/OSPF-TRAP-MIB)
[01-Jul-2008 06:19:30] <exkev> all traps get trnslated as 'ospfTraps', the node in the oid mapping, instead of the 'notification' defined
[01-Jul-2008 06:20:04] <exkev> so ospfTxRetransmit, ospfNbrStateChange etc all turn into "ospfTraps" and get de-duped together
[01-Jul-2008 06:20:51] <exkev> wtf
[01-Jul-2008 06:23:25] <exkev> deleting the 'node' results in untranslated events, just showing the oid
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:23] <exkev> however, bgpBackwardTransition (1.3.6.1.2.1.15.7.2) maps fine and keeps its name
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:35] <exkev> there is a parent 'node' at 1.3.6.1.2.1.15.7 named 'bgpTraps'
[01-Jul-2008 06:25:52] <exkev> same thing, but not broken
[01-Jul-2008 06:36:07] <exkev> testing w/ dmd.Mibs.oid2name() produces interesting results
[01-Jul-2008 06:36:15] <exkev> this mib is somehow broken
[01-Jul-2008 06:38:14] <MrTux> exkev: i'm using the ospf mib delivered as standard mib by juniper (rel9.1), and that works
[01-Jul-2008 06:40:32] <exkev> this is cisco smi v1. I'm purging all my mibs now and tryin to start fresh
[01-Jul-2008 06:41:28] <exkev> uuugh, but this box is eating itself alive again
[01-Jul-2008 07:18:04] <exkev> mrtux, what is the mib file you used?
[01-Jul-2008 07:19:07] <exkev> I grabbed another one (an SMIv2, not from cisco) but still oid2name fails
[01-Jul-2008 07:20:59] <MrTux> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos91/juniper-mibs-9.1R1.8.tgz i've imported all of them
[01-Jul-2008 07:23:17] <exkev> I imported all my mibs, 670 of em. bad idea. :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:26:44] <exkev> thx, that mib imports much betta
[01-Jul-2008 07:27:33] <MrTux> jeah, its juniper, that usually works really well
[01-Jul-2008 07:27:58] <exkev> I used to run M stuff, I miss it
[01-Jul-2008 07:28:12] <exkev> I have a sticker on my laptop, "I (heart) JUNOS"
[01-Jul-2008 07:29:03] <Shurick> you said junos, admins close to me unpacking 65xx :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:30:44] <exkev> 65xx still stomps jnpr for $/port
[01-Jul-2008 07:31:00] <Shurick> yep
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:45] <exkev> I've been using 6503+sup32 as border routers (no need for full table)
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:50] <exkev> $9k plus psus
[01-Jul-2008 07:32:53] <exkev> can't touch it
[01-Jul-2008 07:33:47] <MrTux> we've upgrade to the new mx-series, they're quit cool
[01-Jul-2008 07:33:59] <MrTux> but we have a lot of fulltables here ;)
[01-Jul-2008 07:34:33] <Shurick> full table (we're about bgp v4, right) cost a lot now :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:34:40] <exkev> nlayer wrangled with a lot of bugs in mx, but seems to be happy w/ em now
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:27] <exkev> I'm 95% inbound, "inverse content" as it were
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:30] <exkev> we suck from eyeballs
[01-Jul-2008 07:35:54] <exkev> default + customer = happy for my measly 400 meg of outbound
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:17] <exkev> (or maybe it's not 400, since inbound is about 4G)
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:51] <Shurick> you're hangry then
[01-Jul-2008 07:36:59] <MrTux> Shurick: well, not really ;) for personal use i've jseries (about2k) with 4 fullfeeds ;)
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:08] <exkev> if only pricks like me would stop deagging in PA space
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:23] <exkev> full tables would be less :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:33] <exkev> but what choice am I left with, ARIN allocation policy is stupid
[01-Jul-2008 07:37:49] <Shurick> mine is RIPE :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:38:16] <exkev> we have a site in ripe, will seek small alloc once ramped up
[01-Jul-2008 07:38:36] <Shurick> they allocated a lot of /2[34] - sounds not well
[01-Jul-2008 07:39:02] <exkev> I really only need a few IPs, but engineering inbound balance is near impossible w/o massive community-twiddling kung fu or /24 per port
[01-Jul-2008 07:39:56] <Shurick> if you eat traffic
[01-Jul-2008 07:40:42] <Shurick> if you generate it - it seems more easily to balance it
[01-Jul-2008 07:40:46] <exkev> fo sho
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:06] <exkev> my last gig was 1:1 ISP w/ colo and hosting and ftth and such
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:13] <exkev> that wasn't so hard to balance
[01-Jul-2008 07:41:42] <exkev> also when eyeballs eat bits, it's widely distributed
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:05] <exkev> when I eat eyeballs' bits, those networks are more massive and few
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:13] <exkev> one wrong knob and bits hit the floor :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:26] <Shurick> bwa-ha-ha :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:42:58] <Shurick> 'there will be one network that tights 'em all'
[01-Jul-2008 07:43:10] <exkev> 40Gbps more and I can justify a global peering network
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:11] <Shurick> 40 gbps it almost useless now, if you're content provider
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:26] <exkev> well, and I need to peer with eyeballs or no point
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:32] <exkev> that's a lot harder
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:37] <exkev> <- backups
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:41] <Shurick> even 100gbps are too slow
[01-Jul-2008 07:44:55] <Shurick> due to backups too :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:46:30] <exkev> GMT-7 here, sleep calls
[01-Jul-2008 07:46:37] * exkev &
[01-Jul-2008 07:47:07] <Shurick> GMt+3 here, no sleeps :)
[01-Jul-2008 07:48:56] <AllanHouston> Hi - having some wierd problems with specific Cisco syslog events failing to show in the event view - can anyone help me ?
[01-Jul-2008 10:33:14] <foudfou> hi, I loaded Dell MIBs correctly (with dependencies solved), but stil, events are mapped as '/Unknown'
[01-Jul-2008 10:33:14] <foudfou> is there something more I must do ?
[01-Jul-2008 10:49:07] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "ISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 10:55:45] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MSSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 10:55:50] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:17] <SniZ|work> this not helps^ 1) Bring down zenoss ZENHOME/bin/zenoss stop
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:21] <SniZ|work> 2) Remove all the ZENHOME/var/*.zec files (these are cache files)
[01-Jul-2008 11:19:21] <SniZ|work> 3) Bring up zenoss ZENHOME/bin/zenoss start
[01-Jul-2008 12:08:27] <SniZ|work> hi, i monitor my 36 port 3com switch, but in graphs i see "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:20] <SniZ|work> why when i add new device, zenoss dont create rrd file. what i must do?
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:33] <SniZ|work> but if i zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit it work fine
[01-Jul-2008 12:12:44] <SniZ|work> and create it....
[01-Jul-2008 12:13:06] <SniZ|work> but i must do it for update graphs
[01-Jul-2008 12:15:40] <nemo_> as root or zenoss ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:16:46] <SniZ|work> zenoss
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:04] <SniZ|work> zenoss@monitoring:~$ ls /usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> 192.168.33.11 router.parfum-ultra.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> brest.brest-parfum.local router_vit
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> dial-in.parfum-ultra.local server1.vit-parfum.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:17:05] <SniZ|work> it-prn.parfum-ultra.local server.parfum-ultra.local
[01-Jul-2008 12:18:45] <SniZ|work> nemo_, btw, when i add new device - zenoss generate graphs with string - "MISSING RRD FILE:"
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:12] <SniZ|work> /usr/local/zenoss/perf/Devices/router_vit:
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> total 40
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 755 2008-07-01 20:07 localhost-config.pickle
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:13] <SniZ|work> -rw-r--r-- 1 zenoss zenoss 35296 2008-07-01 20:07 sysUpTime_sysUpTime.rrd
[01-Jul-2008 12:19:16] <SniZ|work> i donno why...
[01-Jul-2008 12:25:49] <SniZ|work> or i must add "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d ${device/id}" to zenoss commands?
[01-Jul-2008 12:28:24] <nemo_> i would delete the device and try again, unless you have data to keep ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:28:45] <SniZ|work> but i doesnt wanna delete added devices....
[01-Jul-2008 12:29:54] <nemo_> try deleting the pickle file and re-modelling
[01-Jul-2008 12:30:10] <nemo_> if it doesnt regen, zeo restart
[01-Jul-2008 12:30:51] <SniZ|work> why i need do this? why snmp daemon doesn wrong?
[01-Jul-2008 12:32:53] <SniZ|work> why zenoss cant work good from fresh install?
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:08] <nemo_> i am not zenoss, i dont know
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:17] <nemo_> read logs , docs etc ! :P
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:28] <SniZ|work> :(
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:38] <nemo_> you think i should do it for ?
[01-Jul-2008 12:34:48] <nemo_> maybe you misunderstand open source ? :P
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:10] <nemo_> i tried to help you point you in a direction, but you should find your own way
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:52] <SniZ|work> heh, i think i forgot somethining do...
[01-Jul-2008 12:35:59] <SniZ|work> but i doo all from manual!
[01-Jul-2008 12:37:50] <SniZ|work> nemo_, i think, all i do rigth. but zenoss doesnt do graphs
[01-Jul-2008 12:38:12] <SniZ|work> only show, if i manually "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit"
[01-Jul-2008 12:45:27] <SniZ|work> can somebody gimme man how to monitor devices?
[01-Jul-2008 12:47:24] <TBKdan> Whoooaaaa very bad...
[01-Jul-2008 12:47:33] <TBKdan> New VM app update kills networking on the app
[01-Jul-2008 12:48:07] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, you can help me?
[01-Jul-2008 12:49:32] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: The one time that I have had "Missing RRD Files" was when the SNMP device I was querying did not return the MIBs that Zenoss was expecting.
[01-Jul-2008 12:49:45] <TBKdan> Dunno if that's what you were looking for
[01-Jul-2008 12:50:31] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, if i run "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit" from zenoss user - it collect data and put in to rrd files, which i can see in zenoss
[01-Jul-2008 12:50:49] <SniZ|work> but zenoss doesnt automaticly collect data
[01-Jul-2008 12:52:03] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: Check the templates for that device to make sure it's trying to collect that data.. I'm not that familiar with Zenoss, but I'm getting there :P
[01-Jul-2008 12:55:30] <cgibbons> how long are you waiting before you see if data is collecting, sniz?
[01-Jul-2008 12:56:55] <SniZ|work> cgibbons, 30-60 Ѽшт
[01-Jul-2008 12:56:56] <SniZ|work> min
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:07] <SniZ|work> TBKdan, i use integrated templates
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:15] <SniZ|work> stanart instakllation
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:42] <SniZ|work> command like "zenperfsnmp run -v5 -d router_vit" - work pretty! and put all in db
[01-Jul-2008 12:57:45] <SniZ|work> *rrd
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:05] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: Is the zenperfsnmp daemon running? (Settings->Daemons)
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:27] <SniZ|work> yes! it work!
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:43] <SniZ|work> #PARAMETER VALUE
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:46] <SniZ|work> monitor localhost
[01-Jul-2008 13:00:47] <SniZ|work> this is config
[01-Jul-2008 13:08:17] <TBKdan> SniZ|work: It's working or the daemon is running? *confused*
[01-Jul-2008 13:09:16] <SniZ|work> laemon running!
[01-Jul-2008 13:14:38] <SniZ|work> daemon ^)
[01-Jul-2008 13:16:33] <realmelancon> Anybody on the channel ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:17:01] <SniZ|work> no
[01-Jul-2008 13:17:52] <realmelancon> Hi SniZ
[01-Jul-2008 13:18:07] <realmelancon> are you familiar with ZenOss 2.2 ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:03] <SniZ|work> i need help to...
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:14] <TBKdan> MS + 2k3 + AD = me going insane... -_-*
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:40] <realmelancon> oups... sorry about that :(
[01-Jul-2008 13:19:49] <TBKdan> Might as well watch a monkey screw a football...
[01-Jul-2008 13:20:14] <realmelancon> Im a Unix admin. cant help with AD stuff.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:00] <realmelancon> i've spent all day yesterday, trying to get zenoss to get the Event logs from a Windows box.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:07] <TBKdan> I think it's just a bug with AD. When you enable a setting via AD, it greys it out locally to prevent changes. When you disable that setting, it keeps it greyed out.
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:30] <TBKdan> realmelancon: How are you trying to get it to retrieve them? WMI?
[01-Jul-2008 13:21:43] <realmelancon> yeah. WMI.
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:02] <TBKdan> Are you getting WMI errors for that machine?
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:49] <SniZ|work> why zenping, zensyslog, zentrap doesnt start?
[01-Jul-2008 13:22:59] <realmelancon> I tried using wmic tool. but it doesnt work. authentication works fine. but i cant get any values.
[01-Jul-2008 13:23:34] <TBKdan> Is this on a 2k3 sp1+ box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:23:37] <realmelancon> when i try from another windows box (using wbemtest ?) it works. i can run any WMI query.
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:12] <realmelancon> TBKdan: I think its 2k3 sp2. i will have to validate though. does it make a difference ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:42] <realmelancon> or does 2k3 sp2 even exists ? (sorry im a unix guy)
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:45] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Is the WMI user a local/domain admin on the box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:24:48] <TBKdan> Yes, that's what I have too.
[01-Jul-2008 13:25:18] <realmelancon> TBKdan. No its not a local user. It uses an AD account.
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:02] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Is that AD account a domain admin, or is it a local admin on the box?
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:28] <TBKdan> Or neither
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:37] <realmelancon> TBKdan: Its a domain admin.
[01-Jul-2008 13:26:42] <TBKdan> ok
[01-Jul-2008 13:27:01] <TBKdan> What command are you using that doesn't give you any results? (minus user/pw :P)
[01-Jul-2008 13:27:53] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Hold on. Let me check.
[01-Jul-2008 13:29:51] <TBKdan> omfg. Resetting the entire security db didn't even do the trick... *bangs head*
[01-Jul-2008 13:30:00] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Unfortunately. I have to VPN in our corp. network, but I will loose the IRC channel. :(
[01-Jul-2008 13:30:31] <TBKdan> I'll be here..
[01-Jul-2008 13:33:23] <realmelancon> TBKDan: but command was something like: cd $ZENHOME/bin; ./wmic -U domain/user //machine "select * from Win32_NTLogEvent"
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:31] <TBKdan> Wait
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:41] <realmelancon> TBKDan: Let me login. And I will rejoin the IRC channel in a couple pf minutes with more info.
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:43] <TBKdan> Are there any strange characters in the pass?
[01-Jul-2008 13:34:50] <TBKdan> ", %, $, etc
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:18] <realmelancon> TBKDan: No only numeric, lower and uppercase chars.
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:21] <TBKdan> k
[01-Jul-2008 13:35:43] <TBKdan> I just ran that command on my machine and it worked fine...
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:13] MoreDakka_ is now known as MoreDakka
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:17] <realmelancon> cool. is there anything I could trace on the Windows box ? any security settings regarding WMI ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:36:35] <MoreDakka> Freakin' hell...AC has been off in the office all weekend...29.5 C in here gahh..sooo hot.
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:08] <TBKdan> realmelancon: You can enable verbose logging for the WMI stuff or just check the logs as is
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:14] <TBKdan> C:\Windows\System32\wbem\Logs
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:42] <TBKdan> I would clear the logs out, then run the command to see if it gives you anything
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:50] <realmelancon> TBKdan: Thanks for the tip. I will look at it.
[01-Jul-2008 13:37:54] <TBKdan> Np
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:04] <TBKdan> I just had a hell of a time fighting with it, so I know the feeling :P
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:30] <realmelancon> TBKdan: and you use Zenoss 2.2 ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:38:46] <cgibbons> WMI improvements are a high priority for 2.3 so xfingers there
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:42] <TBKdan> realmelancon: Yeah, although the VM app.
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:48] <TBKdan> It's up to 2.2.2 there.
[01-Jul-2008 13:39:56] <TBKdan> Latest update clobbered network though :(
[01-Jul-2008 13:40:06] <realmelancon> Is there any differences between Zenoss Core (vs) Enterprise redarding WMI stuff ?
[01-Jul-2008 13:40:45] <TBKdan> I think enterprise has a bit more functionality out of the box, but it should still work in core (it does for me)
[01-Jul-2008 13:41:36] <TBKdan> I can't say for sure though
[01-Jul-2008 13:41:52] <realmelancon> TBKdan: ok thanks. just wanted to confirm.
[01-Jul-2008 14:28:57] TBKdan is now known as TBKDan-away
[01-Jul-2008 14:32:03] <duncan> hey guys, I've installed the zenplugin.py on my server and added the zencommand.linux.* plugins, configured the zencommand username and password and verified that account can run zenplugin.py... but it doesn't want to use it to collect
[01-Jul-2008 14:32:39] <duncan> if I run zenmodeler from the command line I get this: INFO:zen.ZenModeler:no cmd plugins found for cwlms-host51.remotelabs.com
[01-Jul-2008 14:34:33] <duncan> is there documentation on using zenplugin.py anywhere? I can't find anything except how to install it on the target host
[01-Jul-2008 14:55:55] <duncan> nevermind, I believe I found what I needed in the admin guide ;D
[01-Jul-2008 16:14:56] folke is now known as afk_away
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:25] <locohost> is this the best explination of the warning colors?
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> blue - warn
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> green - good
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> grey - no data
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> orange - severe
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:26] <locohost> purple - minor
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:28] <locohost> red - critical
[01-Jul-2008 16:22:29] <locohost> yellow - major
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> or in order....
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> grey - no data
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> green - good
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> blue - warn
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> purple - minor
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:24] <locohost> yellow - major
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:27] <locohost> orange - severe
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:28] <locohost> red - critical
[01-Jul-2008 16:23:36] <locohost> that sound right to you folks?
[01-Jul-2008 16:34:54] <magnachef> yes
[01-Jul-2008 16:39:55] <locohost> THANKS!
[01-Jul-2008 16:59:30] TBKdan1 is now known as TBKDan
[01-Jul-2008 17:41:15] <TBKDan> So, anybody aware of the latest VM app killing networking? I realize that it deletes the vmware-tools in favor of open-vm-tools, but I don't see any evidence that it actually installed
[01-Jul-2008 17:51:53] <ccesario> Hey, I downloaded one file and I see in Grpah interface ....
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:16] <ccesario> and I see 2MB of outbound and 500kbps inbound
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:27] <magnachef> am I able to use percentage thresholds with Min/Max Threshold?
[01-Jul-2008 17:52:38] <ccesario> and I think the correct is 2MB inbound and 500kbps outbound...
[01-Jul-2008 17:53:44] <Mosburn_mobile> has anyone managed to get full Tru64 monitoring in zenoss?
[01-Jul-2008 17:54:34] <magnachef> not I
[01-Jul-2008 17:54:35] <MoreDakka> ccesario - Make sure you are looking at the proper interface to justdge that graph (example switch port 1 has 1.5/640 ADSL, that port will show 1.5in and 640out. port 2 has a computer on it. that port will show 1.5 out and 640 in, make sense?)
[01-Jul-2008 17:56:12] <ccesario> MoreDakka, yes I'm lokink the interface with adsl port
[01-Jul-2008 17:57:50] <ccesario> and I see ... 2MB outbound and 500Kb inbound O_o
[01-Jul-2008 17:58:46] <locohost> ccesario, is this a router or a fw?
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:19] <locohost> ahh, well, it sounds like there is an inside interface and an ouside interface
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:27] <locohost> they will be mirrors of each other.
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:39] <ccesario> FW/ROUTER connected in ADSL Modem :)
[01-Jul-2008 17:59:56] <locohost> the outside interface will have 2mb inbound, while on the inside interface, that same 2mb will be outbound
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:02] <locohost> like what moredakka said
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:24] <ccesario> yes.... ETH1 (WAN) 2Mb outbound... and ETH0(lan) 2Mb inbound
[01-Jul-2008 18:01:39] <ccesario> but this is correct ?
[01-Jul-2008 18:02:32] <locohost> Traffic going OUT of your computer will go IN to the eth0 then OUT eth1
[01-Jul-2008 18:03:30] <locohost> when is say eth0 and 1 in that sentence, i only mean the router, i didnt label the if on your pc
[01-Jul-2008 18:04:08] <locohost> sooo, the direction of the traffic is kinda relative...that make sence?
[01-Jul-2008 18:05:03] <ccesario> hmmmm
[01-Jul-2008 18:05:05] <ccesario> yes locohost
[01-Jul-2008 18:06:32] <ccesario> make sence .... eheheh
[01-Jul-2008 20:03:27] <cgibbons> hmmm
[01-Jul-2008 20:43:32] <duncan> Help! I'm having problems getting disk io graphed in Zenoss... I have installed the zenplugin.py on the server to be monitored, added the ssh username/password in the zProperties for the node, and modified the collector plugins.. but nothing is being collected, and my performance template is setup for snmp.
[01-Jul-2008 20:44:29] <duncan> I have remodeled the device but it says: no cmd plugins found
[01-Jul-2008 21:09:29] <Larve_Q> hi
[01-Jul-2008 21:16:42] <Larve_Q> anybody 2.2.0 problems with windows event/service?
[01-Jul-2008 21:17:07] <Larve_Q> Miss the startmode, en failures aren't detected
[01-Jul-2008 21:17:18] <Larve_Q> worked fine earlier verion...
[01-Jul-2008 22:06:15] <Larve_Q> anybody?
[01-Jul-2008 22:27:31] <locohost> can you get the disk io info in an snmpwalk?
[01-Jul-2008 22:33:26] <Larve_Q> yep, i think so...go to settings -> commands and copy/edit snmpwalk as you like
[01-Jul-2008 22:35:01] <duncan> Help! I'm having problems getting disk io graphed in Zenoss... I have installed the zenplugin.py on the server to be monitored, added the ssh username/password in the zProperties for the node, and modified the collector plugins.. but nothing is being collected, and my performance template is setup for snmp.
[01-Jul-2008 22:35:02] <duncan> I have remodeled the device but it says: no cmd plugins found
[01-Jul-2008 22:36:24] <neil__> ssh is for running remote commands
[01-Jul-2008 22:37:43] <neil__> i havent looked into it, but it sounds wrong the perf template is set to use snmp
[01-Jul-2008 22:38:29] <duncan> so I need to make a new template that has command datasources?
[01-Jul-2008 22:39:28] <neil__> really not too sure, i do everything snmp, dont want to use ssh
[01-Jul-2008 22:44:49] <duncan> unfortunately net-snmp doesn't support disk io unless I recompile it from source.. which is a pain
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:13] <neil__> i didnt notice
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:18] <neil__> but thats for the tip
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:32] <neil__> cant you just rebuild the src rpms with a script / add it to you repo ?
[01-Jul-2008 22:45:58] <neil__> i am guessing thats what i will have to do
[01-Jul-2008 22:46:21] <neil__> for me its security
[01-Jul-2008 22:46:38] <neil__> people complain about me snmp connecting
[01-Jul-2008 22:52:02] <locohost> nah, you can get disk io info from the udc mibs
[01-Jul-2008 22:52:32] <locohost> you might be thinking of DISMAN-EVEN
[01-Jul-2008 22:54:39] <locohost> T
[01-Jul-2008 23:01:07] <locohost> niel, duncan, what does `snmpwalk -v1 localhost -c public .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.15.1.1`
[01-Jul-2008 23:01:16] <locohost> yield on this box?
[01-Jul-2008 23:13:19] <duncan> http://pastebin.com/m72146bfb
[01-Jul-2008 23:17:18] <locohost> ewwww, thats ugly
[01-Jul-2008 23:18:00] <locohost> what if you do 1.3?
[01-Jul-2008 23:19:13] <locohost> it should look like t his
[01-Jul-2008 23:19:13] <locohost> http://pastebin.com/m4267dcb2
[01-Jul-2008 23:26:28] <neil__> [root@black ~]# snmpwalk -v1 localhost -c public .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.15.1.1
[01-Jul-2008 23:26:28] <neil__> End of MIB
[01-Jul-2008 23:37:20] <locohost> well, you might have better luck in #net-snmp, your not having a zenoss issue, your having a net-snmp issue
[01-Jul-2008 23:37:40] <locohost> love to stay and help, but i got to get going. been working too long
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[02-Jul-2008 13:23:42] <Guest18337> When will zenoss maintain layer 2 map and discovery?
[02-Jul-2008 13:58:55] <EekZ`> zenoss rocks!
[02-Jul-2008 14:04:09] <TBKdan> Well that was interesting..
[02-Jul-2008 14:07:23] <nemo_> at least he didnt sit repasting in his question that is on the first page of the admin guide ;p
[02-Jul-2008 14:15:18] <TBKdan> True
[02-Jul-2008 14:17:52] <TBKdan> Playing around with network statistics, and it doesn't appear to like the ethernetCsmacd template that came with Zenoss (it was crashing until I took off the threshold, now it's saying oids are bad). Are there any other net performance templates out there?
[02-Jul-2008 14:30:46] <Comradin> moin, moin
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:02] <nemo_> TBKdan, if you read the bug list, the ethernetCsmacd is buggy on early
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:08] <nemo_> versions*
[02-Jul-2008 14:32:36] <TBKdan> nemo_: I'm using 2.2.2...
[02-Jul-2008 14:33:35] <TBKdan> Wait, early versions of Zenoss or SNMP?
[02-Jul-2008 14:34:58] <nemo_> zenoss
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:00] <nemo_> 2.1.x
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:43] <MoreDakka> ha...2.1.x isn't that early ;-)
[02-Jul-2008 14:35:48] <MoreDakka> we are still running 1.1.1
[02-Jul-2008 14:36:25] <TBKdan> lol
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:22] <Comradin> some days ago I had to delete the Data.fs file, as it was 9G of size and had reduced the remaining space on the device close to a few megs..
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:39] <Comradin> two days ago I started the zenoss server again
[02-Jul-2008 14:39:56] <Comradin> today I watched the Data.fs file and its just 1.8M in size..
[02-Jul-2008 14:40:31] <Comradin> but, when accessing the servers webpage I got a message, that there are some zope users missing for the zenoss access
[02-Jul-2008 14:40:45] <Comradin> looks like I managed to kill the service
[02-Jul-2008 14:41:26] <Comradin> is it difficult to create the missing user?
[02-Jul-2008 14:43:00] <Comradin> if not, the server wasnt configured very much, so I could do a reinstall of the whole zenoss package
[02-Jul-2008 14:48:07] <TBKdan> I just realized that there are already performance graphs per interface if I just go to the OS tab... kind of annoying to look at two tabs for performance, but w/e, I guess it works...
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:34] <nemo_> pewr is different to OS
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:37] <nemo_> perf*
[02-Jul-2008 14:54:47] <nemo_> os is disks, interfaces, etc
[02-Jul-2008 14:55:02] <nemo_> perf = uptime, memory and so on, generated by the perf template
[02-Jul-2008 14:55:09] <nemo_> not by the snmp collectors
[02-Jul-2008 16:51:37] * locohost playes with the sand in his mini zenoss zen garden
[02-Jul-2008 16:52:54] <TBKdan> lol
[02-Jul-2008 16:53:05] * TBKdan eats his baby carrots
[02-Jul-2008 17:51:17] <duncan> I ran zenperfsnmp from the command line on a single host to debug collection for a new template... now every time I start zenperfsnmp it only scans that single node?! how do I get it to scan everything else again?
[02-Jul-2008 17:53:56] <duncan> this is what I get when I type zenperfsnmp run: ERROR:zen.zenperfsnmp:Error loading devices: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): exceptions.TypeError: iteration over non-sequence]
[02-Jul-2008 17:55:57] <neil__> were you not the guy who lost his data.fs
[02-Jul-2008 17:55:58] <neil__> ?
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:11] <duncan> neil__: nope not me
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:11] <neil__> if so, thats where the devices were stored ...
[02-Jul-2008 17:56:20] <neil__> oh thats good for you then :)
[02-Jul-2008 17:58:50] <duncan> neil__: my $ZENHOME/var/Data.fs file is 1.9gb
[02-Jul-2008 18:03:25] <duncan> hmm looks like deleting my pickles might fix it
[02-Jul-2008 18:04:34] <neil__> zenpack the db is the way
[02-Jul-2008 18:04:44] <neil__> the pickle files are just temp cache i believe
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:30] <duncan> hmm yep, deleting the pickles didn't do squad
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:36] <duncan> squat rather
[02-Jul-2008 18:07:51] <duncan> zenpack the db? not sure what you mean
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:10] <neil__> google it ;p
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:18] <__adytum-bot__> http://www.itp.edu/
[02-Jul-2008 18:13:42] <neil__> whatever __adytum-bot__
[02-Jul-2008 18:24:45] <duncan> well, I tried removing all my zenpacks but that doesn't seem to work, I can manually scan single nodes with zenperfsnmp but it won't pull the list from zenhub -- I googled for "zenpack zenperfsnmp non-sequence" and didn't find anything relevant
[02-Jul-2008 18:28:27] <cluther> duncan: How did you come to the conclusion that it has something to do with zenpacks?
[02-Jul-2008 18:28:43] <cluther> I may have missed some context.
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:32] <duncan> cluther: neil__ suggested that I "zenpack the db" and "google it" when I asked what that meant... the only results I found were related to removing packages to fix the iteration of non-sequence errors I'm getting in zenperfsnmp
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:46] <cluther> ah, got it.
[02-Jul-2008 18:29:48] <cluther> Do this..
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:03] <cluther> Stop all of Zenoss, then do "zeoctl start" to only start ZEO.
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:06] <duncan> I'm noticing now, with zenperfsnmp, that each time it starts a new cycle it seems to have added 1 or 2 nodes to the list... it's up to 6 now out of what used to be 650+
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:22] <cluther> Then start zenhub in one terminal with "zenhub run -v 10"
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:31] <cluther> Then in another terminal run "zenperfsnmp run"
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:38] <duncan> cluther: allright, I'll try that
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:42] <cluther> Watch the zenhub Window and let me know what stack trace eventually appears.
[02-Jul-2008 18:30:53] <cluther> Pastebin it if you would.
[02-Jul-2008 18:33:22] <duncan> http://pastebin.com/m1c644f2
[02-Jul-2008 18:33:55] <cluther> duncan: Thanks.
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:07] <cluther> You have the ethernetCsmacd template bound to a device somewhere. Any idea where?
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:10] <cluther> This should never be done..
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:22] <cluther> Check out http://www.zenoss.com/Members/cluther/how-zenoss-chooses-templates
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:26] <cluther> for an explanation of why
[02-Jul-2008 18:34:37] <__adytum-bot__> Title: How Zenoss Chooses Templates - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[02-Jul-2008 18:35:47] <duncan> cluther: I'm not sure where that would be, but I bet I know who did it...!
[02-Jul-2008 18:36:02] <duncan> cluther: is there a way to trace this down from the exception?
[02-Jul-2008 18:38:34] <cluther> sure.. fire up zendmd.
[02-Jul-2008 18:39:05] <cluther> http://pastebin.com/maa49b36
[02-Jul-2008 18:40:27] <duncan> cluther: I pasted that data into zendmd, do I need to do something to tell it to run?
[02-Jul-2008 18:40:50] <cluther> an extra hit of enter will do it.
[02-Jul-2008 18:41:58] <duncan> excellent.. thanks! I'll unbind those devices
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:27] <duncan> I have the oreilly learning python book, I should have known that! =)
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:48] <cluther> heh.. if you say so. :)
[02-Jul-2008 18:51:50] <duncan> well, I restarted zenperfsnmp and it polled 145 nodes.. so it's getting better
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[02-Jul-2008 19:33:45] <magnachef> do I need to stop zenoss before running the zenbackup?
[02-Jul-2008 19:51:20] <cluther> magnachef: You don't need to.
[02-Jul-2008 19:52:54] <magnachef> I assumed it was just recommended, but not necessary
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[02-Jul-2008 20:33:25] <teletype> is there anything special i need to do in order to get zenmodeler to attempt to process the hrSWInstalled map for a device?
[02-Jul-2008 20:35:01] <teletype> nevermind, figured it out
[02-Jul-2008 20:36:15] <teletype> huzzah! i have the software tab populated via snmp for debian. =) wrote a perl snmpd extension implementing the hrswinstalled mib table
[02-Jul-2008 20:37:46] <neil__> curious, it just worked for me ..
[02-Jul-2008 20:38:53] <cluther> neil__: On Debian? I saw one of their developers posting somewhat recently that he was planning on adding this, but I didn't think it was part of the system yet.
[02-Jul-2008 20:39:31] <neil__> centos5 here
[02-Jul-2008 20:39:47] <neil__> i did load lots of mibs might have made a difference
[02-Jul-2008 20:41:52] <magnachef> when doing zenbackup is there anyway to have the /tmp/XXXX dir not be in /tmp? it's filling my root partition
[02-Jul-2008 20:42:37] <cluther> --temp-dir=/wherever
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:19] <cluther> neil__: RPM distributions do work just fine with the installed software. It's the apt based ones that don't.
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:21] <magnachef> nice, thx
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:29] <cluther> telexicon: That's very cool.. feel like sharing your extension?
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:33] <neil__> cluther, kool 4 me :)
[02-Jul-2008 20:43:44] <cluther> Doh.. teletype left.
[02-Jul-2008 21:52:55] <warwick> greetings zenoss people
[02-Jul-2008 21:53:42] <warwick> anyone know why installing zenpacks from the web GUI borks with: /bin/sh: zenpack: command not found
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:12] <warwick> something doesnt have the correct path? or env variables? ($ZENHOME?)
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:30] <warwick> installing zenpacks from the shell works fine
[02-Jul-2008 21:54:58] <warwick> zenoss 2.2.0
[02-Jul-2008 21:55:50] <cluther> Sounds like it'd have something to do with the way that Zope was started..
[02-Jul-2008 21:55:58] <cluther> su - zenoss
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:00] <cluther> zopectl restart
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:03] <cluther> Then try again
[02-Jul-2008 21:56:54] <warwick> cluther: thanks i will try that
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:09] <warwick> cluther: thanks. i was missing export PATH=$ZENHOME/bin:$PATH in .bashrc and then needed to restart zenoss. working now
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:32] <cluther> Sometimes it's the simple things..
[02-Jul-2008 22:06:52] <warwick> right ;)
[02-Jul-2008 22:07:03] <cluther> Source install?
[02-Jul-2008 22:07:56] <warwick> using the source, luke
[02-Jul-2008 23:08:43] <warwick> cluther: do you work for Zenoss?
[02-Jul-2008 23:08:49] <warwick> anyone here work for Zenoss?
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[03-Jul-2008 00:21:26] <magnachef> mrayzenoss does
[03-Jul-2008 03:17:32] <cgibbons> hmmm
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[03-Jul-2008 13:32:39] <alanjds_> Hi
[03-Jul-2008 13:34:47] <alanjds_> I have some trouble using XML-RPC interface
[03-Jul-2008 13:35:09] <alanjds_> and I already read the fancy manual
[03-Jul-2008 13:39:20] <alanjds_> ??
[03-Jul-2008 13:39:33] <alanjds_> is someone awake?
[03-Jul-2008 13:40:27] <cgibbons> sure, just not able to help ;)
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:19] <TBKdan> awake is a subjective term.
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:21] <alanjds_> right :)
[03-Jul-2008 13:50:43] <alanjds_> ok, ok... is someone reading and able to reply?
[03-Jul-2008 13:51:12] <TBKdan> Possibly
[03-Jul-2008 13:51:45] <TBKdan> Whether or not I can help is a different story :P
[03-Jul-2008 13:54:07] <alanjds_> i'm trying to add 39 networks. So, why not use a script? Because I can't find how!
[03-Jul-2008 13:54:30] <alanjds_> even with Devel Guide and API Reference
[03-Jul-2008 13:55:12] <alanjds_> to me API Ref. seems broken
[03-Jul-2008 13:56:06] <alanjds_> described objects have not their described methods (exposed?)
[03-Jul-2008 13:56:22] <cluther> Which method on which object are you trying to call?
[03-Jul-2008 13:57:26] <alanjds_> ZenModel.IpNetwork.manage_addIpNetwork()
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:03] <alanjds_> but see:
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:40] <alanjds_> >>> net = dmd.getDmdRoot("Networks")
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:46] <alanjds_> >>> net
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:51] <alanjds_> <IpNetwork at /zport/dmd/Networks>
[03-Jul-2008 13:58:56] <alanjds_> >>> net.manage_addIpNetwork()
[03-Jul-2008 13:59:08] <alanjds_> AttributeError: manage_addIpNetwork
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:17] <cluther> I think the API states clearly that manage_addIpNetwork is a static method that is part of the IpNetwork module, not an object method.
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:35] <alanjds_> hum...
[03-Jul-2008 14:00:46] <cluther> use the createNet(CIDR) method instead
[03-Jul-2008 14:01:13] <kop__> there's a thread in the forums about "OID lookup in event transform", but there has been no resolution to that. anyone familiar with the problem?
[03-Jul-2008 14:01:25] <alanjds_> at API, addIpNetwork is not marked as @staticmethod
[03-Jul-2008 14:02:29] <kop__> I receive a trap where, in this case, upsAlarmDescr is "(1, 3, 6, 1, 2, 1, 33, 1, 6, 3, 2)"
[03-Jul-2008 14:02:47] <cluther> alanjds_: Fair enough, but you see that is in the module and not the class, right?
[03-Jul-2008 14:03:01] <kop__> clearly that (....) is supposed to be an OID, but it looks like a literal tuple to me
[03-Jul-2008 14:03:03] <cluther> alanjds_: Doesn't really matter.. createNet will work when called on an IpNetwork object.. manage_addIpNetwork won't.
[03-Jul-2008 14:04:07] <kop__> in other words: I need to resolve parameters of a trap while inside an event transform
[03-Jul-2008 14:04:44] <cluther> kop__: Zenoss won't try to decode the values in varbinds, only the names.. so I think that makes the answer to your question yes.
[03-Jul-2008 14:05:51] <cluther> kop__: See this ticket for an open enhancement request related to this: http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/2778
[03-Jul-2008 14:05:58] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #2778 (Use MIB to decode value of trap varbinds) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[03-Jul-2008 14:08:06] <alanjds_> I'm back
[03-Jul-2008 14:09:47] <kop__> cluther: yeah, that is one instance is the problem
[03-Jul-2008 14:10:19] <cluther> kop__: I suppose a transform is the easiest way in that case. It sounds like the varbind is formatted weirdly anyway.
[03-Jul-2008 14:10:25] <cluther> kop__: I've never seen one like that before.
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:02] <kop__> cluther: in my example, I don't get it what happened - but as can see the OID in not in the format of a typical string representation for an OID.. but like, tuple-like
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:13] <kop__> yeah, exactly
[03-Jul-2008 14:11:28] <cluther> I've definitely seen OIDs come in as values and they didn't look like that.
[03-Jul-2008 14:13:01] <cluther> If you haven't already figured it out you can transform it to the normal OID string with this..
[03-Jul-2008 14:13:37] <cluther> evt.upsAlarmDescr = '.'.join(map(str, eval(evt.upsAlarmDescr)))
[03-Jul-2008 14:15:29] <alanjds_> cluther: can you send this script to me?
[03-Jul-2008 14:17:11] <cluther> alanjds_: Which script?
[03-Jul-2008 14:17:55] <kop__> cluther: figured that one out myself... but that leaves you still having to resolve them manually some other way to understand what's going on
[03-Jul-2008 14:18:11] <kop__> resolve <- as in oid2name
[03-Jul-2008 14:18:20] <kop__> or "google it"
[03-Jul-2008 14:19:21] <alanjds_> cluther: You said me to use createNet(CIDR). Have you an example?
[03-Jul-2008 14:19:50] <alanjds_> or better: where to find it at API?
[03-Jul-2008 14:20:13] <alanjds_> I know that is it there, but where?
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:03] <cluther> alanjds_: You're already looking at the IpNetwork module. Click into the IpNetwork class within there. createNet is a method on that class.
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:13] <cluther> kop__: oid2name would definitely be the nice way.
[03-Jul-2008 14:21:45] <cluther> evt.upsAlarmDescr = device.dmd.Mibs.oid2name('.'.join(map(str, eval(evt.upsAlarmDescr))))
[03-Jul-2008 14:22:45] <alanjds_> cluther: ok. Is there. Tks
[03-Jul-2008 14:22:58] <kop__> hmm so it's available under device dot ..
[03-Jul-2008 14:23:22] <kop__> how the heck are you supposed to know what namespaces are available where :-)
[03-Jul-2008 14:23:50] <cluther> kop__: Osmosis.
[03-Jul-2008 14:24:26] <cluther> kop__: You print out the source code and sleep with it under your pillow every night for 30 days.
[03-Jul-2008 14:25:51] <cluther> kop__: If you look at the applyTransform method of EventClassInst (Products/ZenEvents/EventClassInst.py) you'll see what objects it loads into the context for transforms.
[03-Jul-2008 14:30:55] <kop__> ah, that's a good hint
[03-Jul-2008 14:32:34] <TBKdan> Hopefully bash likes it too :)
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[03-Jul-2008 22:16:41] <ralfWORK> hello, I just installed zenoss-stack_2.2.0-0_i386.deb and am curious where I should access my admin panel
[03-Jul-2008 22:17:00] <ralfWORK> I tried http://host:8080/zport/dmd
[03-Jul-2008 22:17:07] <ralfWORK> but I get a tomcat 404
[03-Jul-2008 22:46:17] <ralfWORK> oh. sorry I'm a tard
[03-Jul-2008 22:46:34] <ralfWORK> firewall was pushing :8080 to another box :P
[03-Jul-2008 23:36:39] <Tripsev> Am I connected?
[03-Jul-2008 23:37:21] <Tripsev> Anybody available to assist me with Zenoss? I'm a beginner.
[03-Jul-2008 23:39:35] <Tripsev> Hello?
[03-Jul-2008 23:42:20] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[03-Jul-2008 23:52:58] <ralfWORK> yea I'm back
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:06] <Tripsev> oh, hi
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:11] <ralfWORK> hai!
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:23] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[03-Jul-2008 23:53:57] <ralfWORK> I installed zenoss from the zenoss-stack Debian package... and it worked for a few minutes and then the web interface just kind astopped responding
[03-Jul-2008 23:54:00] <ralfWORK> any clues on this?
[03-Jul-2008 23:55:03] <Tripsev> Don't know. I have only run Zenoss for approximately 10 minutes successfully so far.
[03-Jul-2008 23:55:37] <Tripsev> Then the weekend hit. I'm thinking about installing Ubuntu on my 2k8 box tonight for further testing though.
[03-Jul-2008 23:58:53] <Tripsev> What I want to find out is whether I can remote control PCs on my monitored network with an integrated remote desktop client.
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[04-Jul-2008 00:00:50] <ralfWORK> I have no idea if that's possible, but it sounds far fetched to me
[04-Jul-2008 00:01:01] <ralfWORK> but don't listen to me, I'm more of a newb than you :)
[04-Jul-2008 00:02:53] <Tripsev> The company I work for monitors large networks. We currently use N-Able to do this at great cost. N-Able has an integrated remote control agent, as well as a 'help desk' login on a page that allows an Admin to VNC into unmanaged laptops.
[04-Jul-2008 00:03:40] <Tripsev> Zenoss already does at least 80% of what N-Able can do.
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[04-Jul-2008 04:41:52] <troy42> evening
[04-Jul-2008 13:40:42] <nemo_> weird one
[04-Jul-2008 13:40:54] <nemo_> trying to give admin privs to a user from AD
[04-Jul-2008 13:41:10] <nemo_> says it cant find him, but it so obviously does ...
[04-Jul-2008 14:00:26] <Tripsev> I would like to know if there is a feature that allows for remote management via VNC or somesuch thing.
[04-Jul-2008 14:00:45] <nemo_> ???
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:02] <nemo_> it runs on unix
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:02] <Tripsev> Remote Desktop....
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:15] <nemo_> use , vnc , ssh , whatever you like
[04-Jul-2008 14:01:35] <Tripsev> I need it integrated into Zenoss
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:03] <Tripsev> I don't want to have to manually create a VNC session for each of the 1000's of monitored PCs.
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:20] <nemo_> FAIL
[04-Jul-2008 14:02:35] <Tripsev> Our current monitoring platfor "N-Able" already does this.
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:16] <Tripsev> *platform
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:16] <nemo_> scarp zenoss and use that then
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:21] <nemo_> scrap *
[04-Jul-2008 14:03:45] <Tripsev> Zenoss is free - N-Able is hellishly expensive.
[04-Jul-2008 15:22:10] <cy_`> hello
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:19] <cy_`> on a fresh installed "Ubuntu 8.04 - zenoss-stack-2.2.0-linux.bin" installation.. i get the same error like he does: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=21733 .. when doing "zendeviceload"
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:36] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Migrate only device entries (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Jul-2008 15:23:39] <cy_`> what could possibly be wrong?
[04-Jul-2008 15:29:17] <cy_`> ping
[04-Jul-2008 18:17:57] <kso512> Tripsev: that sounds like a great idea for a ZenPack. Zenoss could detect port 5800 (or whichever port your est. uses) and make a link on the Summary page to load the HTTP/Java VNC connection pretty easily. Not sure how you'd launch the VNC Viewer executable from the Zenoss page, though. ActiveX maybe?
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[05-Jul-2008 05:42:02] <Tripsev> --> KSO512 Yes, I've seen it done using ActiveX with another web-based network monitoring system. Any given user visits a page and enters their credentials, as well as an Access Code.
[05-Jul-2008 05:44:00] <Tripsev> Once they've submitted the form a new page appears prompting them to download necessary software. Once they begin the installation the whole process of installing the VNC server is automated and controlled by the management server. The request for assistance prompts an Administrator logged into the web interface of the management server, allowing them to accept the connection and begin aiding the client.
[05-Jul-2008 05:45:13] <Tripsev> There are additional features I like about our current web based server from N-Able.
[05-Jul-2008 05:46:21] <Tripsev> The server basically listens for communication sent out port 80 (to bypass firewalls) and collects data that way. You set up a probe on a given network that performs all collection tasks and reports back to the server.
[05-Jul-2008 05:46:52] <Tripsev> You also have the option of installing "agents" by way of the already-present
[05-Jul-2008 05:47:23] <Tripsev> 'probe', which allows for more throrough monitoring and reporting of even deeper activity.
[05-Jul-2008 05:48:57] <Tripsev> With the agent installed on a given PC, you have the option of installing a "remote services manager" or RSM. This software allows for almost-instantaneous remote control though the web managment console of the RSM-installed agent.
[05-Jul-2008 05:50:32] <Tripsev> The RSM agent allows for VNC connection for viewing the screen (even without prompts to the user if you desire), controlling the mouse/keyboard, command prompt access, and live statistics of CPU/Disk or other performance metrics.
[05-Jul-2008 05:52:06] <Tripsev> The key to RSM is that the connection is basically a switch in the management console that alerts the Agent (which phones home to the server every minute or so for such things) that it wishes to establish said connection. This allows the connection to occur in almost any type of network setting.
[05-Jul-2008 05:55:33] <Tripsev> I would be more than happy to help Dev such a thing... but I'm not a coder. Although I do believe that if such features could be integrated into Zenoss, it would be extremely powerful.
[05-Jul-2008 06:56:07] <neil__> lol
[05-Jul-2008 07:15:17] <neil__> so code it yourself
[05-Jul-2008 07:15:22] <neil__> this is open source
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[06-Jul-2008 00:30:10] <MajereDB8> hi there, i'm currently testing out zenoss through the vmware appliance, and had a question about its modeling capability. i am attempting to monitor a network appliance using snmp, and can confirm that snmp is properly configured by walking the snmp tree through a different utility. however, i'm a bit lost in how to monitor certain system resources through zenoss
[06-Jul-2008 00:31:36] <MajereDB8> i've got the mibs loaded, and most of the oids that i need are in the standard host-resources mib. using a mib browser i can read data like the file systems, but zenoss doesn't appear to detect that information simply by modeling. could anyone point me in the right direction?
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[07-Jul-2008 06:52:15] <Ozux> I have a problem, I'm installing new ZenOSS, but after installing and Adding Networks to it and pressing "Discover Devices" (in that subnetwork) it do no thing, any idead? (it's on debian)
[07-Jul-2008 06:52:59] <Ozux> Note: I installed 2 others in our IDC and they work perfect on debian, even on Virtuozzo, but this one .. I don't know what should I du!
[07-Jul-2008 07:24:02] <nemo_> u shud learn 2 right
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[07-Jul-2008 10:01:33] <SniZ|work__> hi,. i add device to devices list. and when i try see graphs - i see MISSING RRD FILE
[07-Jul-2008 10:01:52] <SniZ|work__> how many time i must wait for see normal graps?
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[07-Jul-2008 11:36:32] <flo_> can somebody give me a hint on how2 monitor porcesses on SuSE and Windows machines?
[07-Jul-2008 12:13:49] <Ozux> flo__: I think you shoud use SNMP, it have some OID and MIB for this
[07-Jul-2008 12:18:19] <Ozux> flo__: snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost hrSWRunParameters
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[07-Jul-2008 12:34:28] <flo__> that's clear, but how or where can i configure them in zenoss and also tell the system to just check them during office hours (7am-7pm)
[07-Jul-2008 13:46:55] <teknoprep> hi all
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:02] <teknoprep> have a few problems with zenoss that i don't know how to work out
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:08] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work__> hi,. i add device to devices list. and when i try see graphs - i see MISSING RRD FILE
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:09] <SniZ|work> <SniZ|work__> how many time i must wait for see normal graps?
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:26] <teknoprep> Error reading value for "memBuffer" on voip.keystonesoftware.com (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.4.14.0 is bad)
[07-Jul-2008 13:47:32] <teknoprep> what exactly does this mean ?
[07-Jul-2008 13:55:53] <teknoprep> nvm i fixed it
[07-Jul-2008 13:57:18] <flo__> how did you fix it?
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:29] <teknoprep> it was a linux server
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:33] <teknoprep> i fixed up the snmpd.conf
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:44] <teknoprep> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/FAQ#HowdoImakesurethefullSNMPtreeisbeingpublished
[07-Jul-2008 14:16:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: FAQ - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Jul-2008 15:53:15] <teknoprep> how do i monitor a servers temperature with Zenoss ?
[07-Jul-2008 15:53:21] <teknoprep> windows servers
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:25] <Bulwinkle> teknoprep: find the OID and poll it
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:38] <teknoprep> how will it graph it ?
[07-Jul-2008 15:54:58] <Bulwinkle> teknoprep: create a graph
[07-Jul-2008 15:57:43] <teknoprep> how do i find the OID
[07-Jul-2008 15:57:47] <teknoprep> i see how to make the graph
[07-Jul-2008 18:13:35] <ckrough> How Now Brown Cow
[07-Jul-2008 18:21:00] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell zenoss to "just monitor everything" about a device?
[07-Jul-2008 18:21:49] <daMaestro> i have set "view all included .1" for the community, yet zenoss is monitoring very little
[07-Jul-2008 18:22:16] <kgoedtel> it is all dependent on your templates being used
[07-Jul-2008 18:22:29] <kgoedtel> zenoss needs to know what 'everything' is
[07-Jul-2008 18:23:51] <daMaestro> ok, so i need to apply more templates?
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:20] <ckrough> when the devices are discovered they will end up in /devices/discovered
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:48] <ckrough> you need to move the devices to the proper subclass of /devices so that zenoss can make assumptions on what they are and what should be monitored
[07-Jul-2008 18:24:52] <kgoedtel> if you place the server in a proper location, default templates will work automatically
[07-Jul-2008 18:25:19] <ckrough> ie, move network devices to the appropriate grouping under /devices/network , etc...
[07-Jul-2008 18:25:55] <daMaestro> yeah, well i put the device in a the linux server class.. but i'd really like to see everything monitored; so... it seems i need to create a template for what i want monitored and then bind the device to that template?
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:03] <kgoedtel> you keep saying 'everything'
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:15] <kgoedtel> everything is meaningless
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:23] <kgoedtel> net-snmp oid set is HUGE
[07-Jul-2008 18:28:59] <ckrough> it monitors a reasonable sane number of OIDs by default when the device is in a correct class
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:04] <ckrough> what type of device is it
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:18] <daMaestro> a linux server
[07-Jul-2008 18:29:32] <kgoedtel> so, what sort of data are you missing that you feel you should have?
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:44] <ckrough> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/configuration-of-netsnmp-for-use-with-zenoss/
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:52] <ckrough> read through that if you havent
[07-Jul-2008 18:30:58] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Configuration of NetSnmp for use with Zenoss - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Jul-2008 18:31:48] <daMaestro> i have the above howto already implemented
[07-Jul-2008 18:38:23] <ckrough> what type of data are you missing
[07-Jul-2008 18:52:55] <daMaestro> for example, it doesn't correctly detect ethernet devices
[07-Jul-2008 18:54:20] <daMaestro> i'd like it to automatically acquire all ethernet devices and it's IP addresses
[07-Jul-2008 18:55:13] <daMaestro> also, it's miscalculating our ~65TB mounts
[07-Jul-2008 18:55:41] <daMaestro> and now, all of the perf graphs are reporting "nan%"
[07-Jul-2008 18:56:44] <daMaestro> another thing, why doesn't it know what to look for when wanting "uptime"
[07-Jul-2008 18:56:56] <daMaestro> "Uptime Unknown"
[07-Jul-2008 18:57:49] <kgoedtel> snmp definitely doesn't seem to be working properly for you
[07-Jul-2008 18:57:58] <kgoedtel> uptime is one of the most basic templates
[07-Jul-2008 19:05:58] <krphop> /opt/tier20 249.1GB 46.2TB -45.9TB 18981
[07-Jul-2008 19:06:35] <krphop> i'm assuming there is a limitation on how large a filesystem will be for zenoss to display it properly?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:05] <warwick> does anyone has any good advice on using hierarchy organization in Zenoss?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:07] <warwick> given 1,000+ servers of a few OS variants, with many different hardware configs, in multiple datacenters, split among many different functions (web, db, mail, dns, dev, storage etc etc) any suggestions for using hierarchy in Devices, Groups, Systems for best results in setting up monitoring?
[07-Jul-2008 19:23:28] <warwick> How have you created your hierarchy in Devices? and how are you using Groups and Systems?
[07-Jul-2008 19:47:48] <kgoedtel> we use groups do describe physical locations and systems to model virtualized systems
[07-Jul-2008 19:47:53] <kgoedtel> to describe*
[07-Jul-2008 19:48:09] <kgoedtel> any given system may belong to multiple groups
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:00] <kgoedtel> device classes are only used for organizing templates and their bindings
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:39] <warwick> kgoedtel: interesting. so you are not using Locations?
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:39] <kgoedtel> which results in classifying system by model, type, or function
[07-Jul-2008 19:49:59] <kgoedtel> yeah we use that too
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:46] <kgoedtel> actually now that i think of it, yeah locations for address of datacenter
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:53] <warwick> so device classes, i am still undecided on how to create the devices tree
[07-Jul-2008 19:50:56] <kgoedtel> we have 3 locations
[07-Jul-2008 19:51:20] <kgoedtel> i think the main function of groups for us is to place servers in each cluster together
[07-Jul-2008 19:51:24] <warwick> whether to use hardware type, server function or OS to form the Devices hierachy
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:01] <warwick> how have you created your Devices classes?
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:11] <kgoedtel> i started doing hardware but it got too complicated
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:27] <kgoedtel> i resorted to mostly focusing on function of device
[07-Jul-2008 19:52:44] <warwick> ok
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:11] <kgoedtel> i have placed a lot of templates in server that 'could' work on devices in a sub class - but only bind to the ones i want modeled
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:21] <kgoedtel> err server class
[07-Jul-2008 19:53:57] <warwick> so you retained the default classes that ship with zenoss? messing with those seemed to produce Bad Things :)
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:07] <warwick> device classes that is
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:29] <kgoedtel> yeah it gets messy if you want to add zenpacks and such
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:30] <warwick> especially with Zenpacks that expected to find a Server class
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:35] <warwick> ;)
[07-Jul-2008 19:54:50] <kgoedtel> i have created a bunch myself and don't care to change it again :]
[07-Jul-2008 19:55:01] <warwick> i hear you
[07-Jul-2008 19:55:44] <kgoedtel> fortunately we have really homogenized our devices/network here so things are fairly simple
[07-Jul-2008 19:56:55] <kgoedtel> i have found that systems and groups are only really useful for running reports
[07-Jul-2008 19:57:06] <kgoedtel> i don't use them for anything else really
[07-Jul-2008 19:58:35] <warwick> right, and they are arbitrary anyway, since zenoss doesnt appear to use Systems or Groups internally for anything. you could rename them anything you want probably?
[07-Jul-2008 19:58:47] <warwick> would be interesting to see more examples submitted to http://blog.zenoss.com/2008/06/06/show-us-your-zenoss-install/
[07-Jul-2008 19:59:02] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Show us your Zenoss Install! | Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[07-Jul-2008 19:59:07] <warwick> to see how people have decided to setup zenoss
[07-Jul-2008 20:00:33] <kgoedtel> ours is pretty vanilla
[07-Jul-2008 20:00:57] <kgoedtel> i just take advantage of the extensibility of it
[07-Jul-2008 20:01:16] <kgoedtel> through net-snmp pass scripts, zenpacks, and custom templates
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:02] <kgoedtel> otherwise the defaults are relatively intact
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:25] <warwick> are you using any nagios check scripts or plugins? we are considering zenoss as a replacement for nagios+munin
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:46] <kgoedtel> yeah through zenpacks only though
[07-Jul-2008 20:02:54] <kgoedtel> i dislike the raw commands
[07-Jul-2008 20:03:57] <kgoedtel> we used nagios for a while, but i like zenoss wayyyy more
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:25] <kgoedtel> and i think i would love it even more if i was actually good at python
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:49] <warwick> are any of your zenpacks available for d/l? ;)
[07-Jul-2008 20:04:58] <kgoedtel> nope :\
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:19] <kgoedtel> most of them are custom to our setup so they wouldnt be much use to anyone
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:27] <warwick> gotcha
[07-Jul-2008 20:05:46] <kgoedtel> although i should contribute back my changes to the apache zenpack that they provide
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:06] <kgoedtel> theirs is crap :x
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:18] <warwick> last question, kgoedtel are you using different collectors in each location?
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:35] <kgoedtel> no but we have considered it
[07-Jul-2008 20:06:57] <kgoedtel> it is annoying when the wan goes down between them
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:11] <warwick> how many devices do you have in zenoss, and do you see any performance issues on the zenoss server?
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:17] <kgoedtel> and due to the vpn stuff the dependencies dont resolve properly
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:23] <kgoedtel> so they all fail remotely
[07-Jul-2008 20:07:56] <kgoedtel> a few hundred, and zenoss is a huge memory hog
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:10] <kgoedtel> cpu wise it is pretty negligible
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:50] <warwick> yeah i dont think we would be able to handle 1000 devices with a single zenoss collector, based on what it looks like with 30 test devices right now
[07-Jul-2008 20:08:58] <kgoedtel> right now we have 3 gigs for zenoss which isn't really enough
[07-Jul-2008 20:09:09] <warwick> hey thanks for the info, interesting
[07-Jul-2008 20:09:30] <kgoedtel> np
[07-Jul-2008 20:18:51] <MajereDB8> hi, quick question for anyone out there - i'm testing out the zenoss vmware image, and i have an e-mail alert rule set up. it's going to send over SMS, so i'd like zenoss to acknowledge the alert when the receipient replies to the e-mail. can anyone point me in the right direction for where i could find some directions?
[07-Jul-2008 20:19:51] <MajereDB8> unfortunately the administrator guide and the forums didn't seem to cover something like that
[07-Jul-2008 20:26:58] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, are you running 32bit or 64bit?
[07-Jul-2008 20:30:01] <ckrough> \
[07-Jul-2008 20:40:39] <kgoedtel> 64bit rhel5
[07-Jul-2008 20:43:42] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, i'd recommend looking at using 32bit. zope (really, python 2.4) eats amazing amounts of RAM with a 64bit platform
[07-Jul-2008 20:43:53] <daMaestro> kgoedtel, with 32bit.. the ram usage is much more sensible
[07-Jul-2008 20:45:24] <kgoedtel> i run it under xen and would rather not run 32bit virtuals :] memory is cheap anyhow
[07-Jul-2008 20:45:43] <kgoedtel> i am satisfied with the responsiveness otherwise
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:02] <krphop> i just wish i could get the friggin thing to wrok
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:04] <krphop> lol
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:26] <kgoedtel> where are you stuck?
[07-Jul-2008 20:46:46] <daMaestro> yeah, what species of animal are we needing to sacrifice to get zenoss to automatically enumerate the networking interfaces ?
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:04] <krphop> 1. none of my interface graphs work
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:08] <kgoedtel> i dunno, my interfaces work fine :\
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:13] <krphop> 2. i cant add IP's to a eth interface
[07-Jul-2008 20:47:34] <krphop> 3. graphs are borked for one of my hosts, even after deleting and re-creating the device
[07-Jul-2008 20:48:33] <krphop> 4. there's no real howto guide to create devices, templates, etc. just a bunch of documentation on what it all can do, not how to use it
[07-Jul-2008 20:48:47] <krphop> thats about where i'm stuck so far ;-)
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:10] <kgoedtel> yeah i dunno
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:37] <kgoedtel> out of the box everything worked for me, and my tech-intuition usually helps me a bit to figure things out
[07-Jul-2008 20:50:45] <kgoedtel> i haven't read much of any documentation
[07-Jul-2008 20:54:51] <kgoedtel> the stuff available now is far better than what they had when i started using it though
[07-Jul-2008 20:55:05] <kgoedtel> i started with 1.x
[07-Jul-2008 22:21:08] <daMaestro> is there any way to tell zenoss to re-try auto-detecting stuff like filesystems, ethernet devices, etc?
[07-Jul-2008 23:03:15] <kso512> daMaestro: Zenoss will re-model every device every 24 hours by default, AFAIK...
[07-Jul-2008 23:03:40] <daMaestro> yeah, i found how to force it to re-model.. but it didn't pick up all the automagic i expected
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[08-Jul-2008 00:27:29] <daMaestro> http://fpaste.org/paste/3337
[08-Jul-2008 00:27:38] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #3337 (at fpaste.org)
[08-Jul-2008 00:28:13] * daMaestro blah, i really don't want to debug any template issues today
[08-Jul-2008 00:30:58] <daMaestro> http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/ticket/3425
[08-Jul-2008 00:31:05] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3425 (AttributeError when trying to render viewDevicePerformance) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[08-Jul-2008 00:46:32] <explody> anyone know how to configure zenoss to monitor a device or service only during a certain time period?
[08-Jul-2008 00:48:57] <explody> oh I see, maintenance windows
[08-Jul-2008 01:06:22] <explody> I may be stuck in nagios-land, but if I fix a problem and I want zenoss to reflect the fix immediately, is there a way to force a check of a service or host?
[08-Jul-2008 01:08:24] <explody> aaaan last but not least, why, following what appears to be a clean restart, amd I getting this in events: 18:07:14.000 helium.gemstone.com zenwin heartbeat failure
[08-Jul-2008 01:08:47] <explody> while I'm getting this in the zenwin log: 18:03:19 WARNING zen.zenwin: Reconnected to ZenHub
[08-Jul-2008 01:09:10] <explody> someone is wrong, methinks....
[08-Jul-2008 01:55:58] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[08-Jul-2008 02:00:10] <imperfect-> Anyone about?
[08-Jul-2008 04:13:54] <__adytum-bot__> New Blog/News Feed: Advogato blog for oubiwann - Native LoadBalancing for Twisted Apps - 05 Jul, 10:04PM
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[08-Jul-2008 12:10:34] <imperfect-> Morning, anyone around?
[08-Jul-2008 13:23:40] warwick_lap is now known as warwick
[08-Jul-2008 13:34:34] <duncan> is it possible to duplicate a performance template? I have one created in /Devices/Server and when I try to copy it to the same folder it does nothing
[08-Jul-2008 14:12:11] <linash> duncan, no problem here: the template is copied with a 'copy_of_' prefix.
[08-Jul-2008 14:34:35] <imperfect-> Howdy.
[08-Jul-2008 14:34:57] <imperfect-> I'm using core and it's listing the same device twice on the dashboard... anyone know why?
[08-Jul-2008 15:00:49] <magnachef> what version?
[08-Jul-2008 15:11:43] <imperfect-> 2.1
[08-Jul-2008 15:12:09] <magnachef> and you're not seeing duplicates in the device list?
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:52] <imperfect-> Correction here
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:56] <imperfect-> I'm using 2.2
[08-Jul-2008 15:29:57] <imperfect-> And no
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> Starting Zope Object Database
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> . daemon process started, pid=7256
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> Loading initial Zenoss objects into the Zeo database
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:00] <n0c> (this can take a few minutes)
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:01] <imperfect-> I'm nots eeing duplicates in the device list
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:05] <n0c> any thoughts?
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:10] <n0c> this is hanging
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:11] <imperfect-> just in the dashboard notifications
[08-Jul-2008 15:30:30] <n0c> this is from ./install.sh
[08-Jul-2008 17:12:20] <MajereDB8> hi, i'm currently testing the zenoss vmware image, and am trying to set up an e-mail alert rule that can be acknowledged via an e-mail response, rather than by visiting the web site listed in the default rule. essentially, i'd like to be able to respond to an e-mail with one of two messages, one that will acknowledge the event and one that will tell zenoss to e-mail another technician.
[08-Jul-2008 17:12:21] <MajereDB8> i haven't been able to find much documentation on the admin guide or the web boards for something like that, and wondered if someone point me in the right direction
[08-Jul-2008 17:34:23] <magnachef> I've never heard of that, actually...but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist
[08-Jul-2008 17:34:39] <magnachef> documentation is generally pretty thin
[08-Jul-2008 17:36:45] <MajereDB8> yeah... i'm guessing that the alert rule chaining to e-mail a second technician wouldn't be that complicated. the acknowledge by e-mail one is a bit over my head, but i'd think it would be a pretty common request
[08-Jul-2008 17:37:27] <MajereDB8> a lot of people use e-mail to SMS gateways instead of pagers and you may not be able to hit a web site over SMS
[08-Jul-2008 17:37:35] <MajereDB8> well, over a device with SMS
[08-Jul-2008 17:38:01] <MajereDB8> obviously you can't surf the web via text :)
[08-Jul-2008 17:39:33] <magnachef> indeed
[08-Jul-2008 17:39:42] <magnachef> have you posted to the zenoss-dev forum?
[08-Jul-2008 17:40:32] <magnachef> you may get a better response there - and from one of the devs
[08-Jul-2008 17:41:49] <MajereDB8> i haven't. i'm a bit sheepish about posting what comes even close to resembling a feature request, but hey it's worth a shot
[08-Jul-2008 17:45:53] <magnachef> eh, someone's gotta do it
[08-Jul-2008 17:46:08] <magnachef> otherwise, they may not feel it's that important
[08-Jul-2008 18:32:35] <imperfect-> Anyone know if there is a way to get an interactive session using a user command?
[08-Jul-2008 18:32:43] <imperfect-> i.e. could i somehow get it to spawn telnet or ssh ?
[08-Jul-2008 19:14:44] <explody> any ideas why my zenoss box has heartbeat failures for zenwin, zenprocess and zeventlog, although all 3 are up and running fine and report themselves as connected to the hub?
[08-Jul-2008 19:15:10] <explody> I seem to remember this having happened the last time I tried out zenoss as well. but I can't remember if I found the cause
[08-Jul-2008 19:20:27] <imperfect-> explody: You done much w/ ZenOSS?
[08-Jul-2008 19:21:49] <explody> a fair amount
[08-Jul-2008 19:22:16] <explody> it's been a while since I last looked into it
[08-Jul-2008 19:23:48] <telexicon_> explody, that always happens whenever i try zenoss
[08-Jul-2008 19:24:11] <telexicon_> along with a few other random failures.. eventually i just give up trying to make it work
[08-Jul-2008 19:24:29] <explody> hah, that's what happened to me last time
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:07] <telexicon_> like it was scanning my servers, and then it said all of my server's http services had failed, even though they were running fine.. and i couldnt figure out how to clear the events
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:22] <explody> yeah I remember that too
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:23] <telexicon_> and then it started flooding all these other events for computers that i never told it to watch (workstations.. i dont care about those)
[08-Jul-2008 19:25:34] <explody> this new ver seems easier, you can move events to history
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:22] <telexicon_> hmm, ill have to give it a try again sometime
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:31] <imperfect-> It's behaving very weird, this ZenOSS is.
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:34] <telexicon_> we still haven't found any other monitoring solutions
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:37] <imperfect-> I've got a process class created for dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:51] <imperfect-> and it works on one box, find the process and all is well
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:57] <imperfect-> but reports it down on a TWIN sister box
[08-Jul-2008 19:27:59] <telexicon_> i tried hyperic, but it fell apart after a little bit
[08-Jul-2008 19:31:44] <explody> telexicon_: there's always nagios
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:10] indradg is now known as idg|dinner
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:25] <imperfect-> Man this just doesn't make sense
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:29] <imperfect-> I've got 2 identical boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:35] <imperfect-> which were working fine all day monitoring dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:41] <imperfect-> now suddenly one of them is showing down
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:45] <imperfect-> for no apparent reason
[08-Jul-2008 19:34:52] <telexicon_> explody, *sighs* .. i suppose
[08-Jul-2008 19:39:35] <explody> telexicon_: nagios+monarch isn't bad, it's what we're using now
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:14] <magnachef> what is the full process name?
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:29] <imperfect-> /usr/bin/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:44] idg|dinner is now known as indradg
[08-Jul-2008 19:51:51] <magnachef> and are you ignoring parameters?
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:03] <imperfect-> I am
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:05] <imperfect-> Like I said
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:08] <imperfect-> it was working all flipping day
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:10] <imperfect-> both boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:11] <imperfect-> nothing different
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:12] <imperfect-> nothing changed
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:14] <imperfect-> and RANDOMLY
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:19] <imperfect-> it just stopped working on one
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:20] <magnachef> oh yeah, come to think of it, you probably are timing out
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:21] <imperfect-> threw an error
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:32] <imperfect-> What causes that?
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:35] <magnachef> I had this issue, and I bumped up my zSNMPTimeout
[08-Jul-2008 19:52:48] <magnachef> (or something like that in zProperties)
[08-Jul-2008 19:53:31] <magnachef> just that SNMP can hang when walking the processes, and just alerts because of it that it isn't running
[08-Jul-2008 19:54:37] <magnachef> so under the /Devices class, click on zProperties, then change zSnmpTimeout
[08-Jul-2008 19:54:57] <magnachef> I actually have it bumped up to 15.0
[08-Jul-2008 19:55:43] <magnachef> so was the one that randomly stopped working the primary of the two?
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:07] <imperfect-> Uhm
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:12] <imperfect-> I dont ahve them in there as primary and secondary
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:16] <imperfect-> I jsut have two boxes
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:19] <imperfect-> they're identical
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:22] <imperfect-> one worked and one didnt
[08-Jul-2008 19:57:36] <magnachef> ok, jw
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:05] <imperfect-> magnachef: the wrid this is, I deleted the osProcess from the host
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:08] <imperfect-> and it re-added itself!
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:10] <imperfect-> and now it's fine
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:32] <magnachef> yeah, if you remodel the device it will find it an add it
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:43] <imperfect-> But how does it know that's what I'm looking for?
[08-Jul-2008 20:01:45] <magnachef> so now lock it from being removed
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:01] <magnachef> because you defined the regex in Processes
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:18] <imperfect-> Right, but I deleted the process from the host?
[08-Jul-2008 20:02:32] <magnachef> you did that before remodeling though, right?
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:37] <magnachef> so everytime you model it, or zenmodeler runs and remodels the device, it checks your processes on the machine against the regexp's you defined. If it matches one, it'll add it to your host, unless you specify otherwise
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:48] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:51] <imperfect-> I never remodeled.
[08-Jul-2008 20:04:56] <imperfect-> Maybe that's the step I'm missing.
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:10] <imperfect-> (I've been using Zen for like 5 hours, sorry)
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:30] <imperfect-> the googlemaps integration is cool but it's so darn slow ;(
[08-Jul-2008 20:05:45] <magnachef> heh, ok...then you still have a good amount of playing/tweaking to go :-)
[08-Jul-2008 20:07:19] <magnachef> I've never used it
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:23] <imperfect-> nod nod
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:35] <imperfect-> magnachef: well it's neat. I work for a large metropolitian school district
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:43] <imperfect-> I've got like 70 sites or so
[08-Jul-2008 20:14:52] <imperfect-> so Ig uess I'm mid sized.. anyway, with the gmaps addon
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:01] <imperfect-> I get dots all over thecity, it's pretty sweet ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:07] <magnachef> nice...I used to work for a bank, and I know that it could definitely come in handy
[08-Jul-2008 20:15:28] <magnachef> yeah, I don't have much use for it now unfortunately
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:07] <imperfect-> Yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:08] <imperfect-> But like I said
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:09] <imperfect-> it's slow
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:20] <imperfect-> I've got this setup on a quad core box w/ 8 gig of ram
[08-Jul-2008 20:17:37] <magnachef> yeah, unfortunately there's the internet and google's service that it's reliant on
[08-Jul-2008 20:18:50] <imperfect-> nod nod
[08-Jul-2008 20:18:55] <imperfect-> I wish it'd cache it or something
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:00] <imperfect-> take a snap show to show while it's loading
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:01] <imperfect-> something!
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:16] <imperfect-> anything other than an empty spot on my dashboard ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:23] <magnachef> it would be nice to download the data for a certain region
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:32] <imperfect-> Here's another question: what exactly is the 'use' of the network map?
[08-Jul-2008 20:19:47] <imperfect-> I mean it's a neat toy, but I'm having trouble figuring out how it can be useful
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:08] <magnachef> help visualize networks, subnets, connected devices, etc
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:27] <imperfect-> Well I guess my real question is: it's not very useful since it isn't static
[08-Jul-2008 20:20:42] <imperfect-> if it were like a visio drawing, that'd be helpful but as it stands you start fresh each time
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:07] <imperfect-> So where it could totally awesome as a GUI status map, it's not very helpful because it isn't static
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:20] <magnachef> well, I believe you can have your different network clouds and see high level status, then drill in accordingly
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:42] <magnachef> it seems kinda nagios-like, IIRC
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:54] <imperfect-> Yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:57] <imperfect-> I've added my core router
[08-Jul-2008 20:21:59] <imperfect-> (big mistake)
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:05] <magnachef> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:12] <imperfect-> and it does let me drill down
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:23] <imperfect-> but it'd be more useful, imo, if you could select a pre-configured map view
[08-Jul-2008 20:22:43] <magnachef> you can select the default setting and device/network
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:00] <imperfect-> Well
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:05] <imperfect-> What I need to get this adopted here
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:10] <imperfect-> is a map-overview
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:36] <imperfect-> something a CIO can stare at
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:39] <imperfect-> and know all is well ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:23:53] <magnachef> yeah, seems more like the Google map stuff than the network map stuff
[08-Jul-2008 20:24:43] <imperfect-> I'm printing out the manual as we speak
[08-Jul-2008 20:24:53] <imperfect-> So hopefully i can figure something out ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:32] <magnachef> yeah, it's a little bit of help, but also search through the forums for help
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:33] <imperfect-> LOL
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:35] <imperfect-> this is nuts!
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:39] <imperfect-> Now I"m getting errors on that host
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:45] <imperfect-> and yet under OS processes
[08-Jul-2008 20:25:51] <imperfect-> the status is green
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:09] <magnachef> what errors, and are you looking at the event list?
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:17] <imperfect-> at the dashboard
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:20] <imperfect-> and then event list
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:26] <imperfect-> it shows there being an error on the process
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:30] <imperfect-> i go in ack/history it
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:32] <imperfect-> minute later
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:33] <imperfect-> comes back
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:34] <magnachef> make sure you set the event list to "start" so that it refreshes
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:36] <imperfect-> go into os
[08-Jul-2008 20:26:53] <magnachef> well, you need to just ack it
[08-Jul-2008 20:27:09] <magnachef> if you move it to history, then it happens again, it'll show back up in the list
[08-Jul-2008 20:27:41] <imperfect-> well isnt that what I want to have happen?
[08-Jul-2008 20:30:47] <imperfect-> See something else is weird
[08-Jul-2008 20:30:59] <imperfect-> Because when I add the sister box, I've noticed the name of the process is /usr/sbin/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:31:06] <imperfect-> but on this main box, the name is set to dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:37:30] <imperfect-> See, another problem is, there's no way to get anything but a green dot
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:14] <magnachef> what is your regex?
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:46] <magnachef> I've seen taht before, because it goes off of the snmp HRSWRun mib variable, or one of those
[08-Jul-2008 20:39:57] <imperfect-> my regex is just dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:21] <magnachef> so you may need to include the path
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:25] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:27] <imperfect-> That's the thing
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:30] <imperfect-> the other one is _fine_
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:30] <imperfect-> ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:33] <imperfect-> has been all day
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:33] <magnachef> so make it /usr/sbin/dhcp
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:39] <imperfect-> I've done that too
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:47] <imperfect-> it escaped the /
[08-Jul-2008 20:40:53] <magnachef> I've had some issues with that too though
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:00] <imperfect-> so it'd hgave to be \/usr\/bin\/dhcpd
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:01] <imperfect-> prolly
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:03] <magnachef> with ldap though,
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:22] <magnachef> it may be a bug, myrayzenoss, you around?!
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:30] <imperfect-> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:39] <imperfect-> Well the big problem I'm seeing going forward is
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:40] <magnachef> I believe that's what they told me, you should do a quick search in the forums
[08-Jul-2008 20:41:45] <imperfect-> 70 dots ona city map aren't real useful ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:02] <magnachef> they don't change color?
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:07] <imperfect-> They do
[08-Jul-2008 20:42:11] <imperfect-> But I'm just playing CIo
[08-Jul-2008 20:43:29] <magnachef> well, it's high level...what are you thinking that a CIO will want
[08-Jul-2008 20:43:36] <magnachef> or your CIO more specifically
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:02] <imperfect-> well
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:03] <imperfect-> Honestly
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:10] <imperfect-> It's my direct boss who is used to larger icons
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:16] <imperfect-> big green bastards ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:33] <magnachef> heh, you may be able to change the actual images
[08-Jul-2008 20:44:45] <magnachef> just make them bigger...and greener too!
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:24] <imperfect-> Honestly
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:28] <imperfect-> That'd prolly work
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:29] <imperfect-> Tell me
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:32] <imperfect-> are you using core?
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:36] <magnachef> yeah
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:44] <imperfect-> any idea what the pricing model is?
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:49] <magnachef> per device
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:54] <imperfect-> oh guh
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:54] <imperfect-> ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:45:59] <imperfect-> I've got at least 1k switches ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:46:14] <magnachef> yeah, it depends on what level of service you want
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:12] <imperfect-> I'm not as interested in the service as I am in better device support ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:23] <magnachef> http://www.zenoss.com/product/enterprise
[08-Jul-2008 20:47:32] <imperfect-> Right now my 6513 catalyst has like 300 unrouted vlan interfaces that complain
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:11] <magnachef> This may answer your question better: http://www.zenoss.com/product/
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:31] <imperfect-> See
[08-Jul-2008 20:48:40] <imperfect-> that Global Dashboard is prolly what I want for the CIO
[08-Jul-2008 20:49:01] <magnachef> right
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:12] <imperfect-> them making rancid a pay feature
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:13] <imperfect-> is
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:15] <imperfect-> just well, rancid ;)
[08-Jul-2008 20:52:33] <magnachef> heh
[08-Jul-2008 20:53:01] <imperfect-> Though I'm thinking with a custom varible you could prolly get configs to live in Zen
[08-Jul-2008 20:53:34] <magnachef> well, it's open, so you can do anything, with the right skill set
[08-Jul-2008 20:54:51] <magnachef> that's the nice part
[08-Jul-2008 20:55:45] <warwick> hi everyone. if i am using only SSH and no SNMP, how can I troubleshoot why disk usage stats all remain "unknown" and performance charts dont work?
[08-Jul-2008 20:56:18] <warwick> manually running zenplugin.py via ssh on the monitored devices returns the data as expected
[08-Jul-2008 20:57:26] <magnachef> not sure, I only use snmp
[08-Jul-2008 21:01:21] <warwick> anyone hit this issue before? i see a bunch of discussions in the forums but they all seemed to revolve around snmp config issues
[08-Jul-2008 21:18:44] <imperfect-> The manual doesn't say much at all about the network map
[08-Jul-2008 21:18:49] <imperfect-> like where to set the default object
[08-Jul-2008 21:19:11] <magnachef> The manual is very thin...you can find that in the forum I think...
[08-Jul-2008 21:19:35] <imperfect-> kk
[08-Jul-2008 21:52:08] <ghettodev> anyone know where id start if I wanted to run through all my servers and pull out the mysql versions?
[08-Jul-2008 21:55:14] <magnachef> within zenoss? or actually going to each server?
[08-Jul-2008 21:59:44] <ghettodev> within zenoss. i'm hoping i can set up a regex product manufacturer or there is some way to do it in the reporting section
[08-Jul-2008 22:02:58] <ghettodev> magnachef: sorry, i always forget to quote usernames in my replies
[08-Jul-2008 22:07:01] <magnachef> is it being tracked via the software tab?
[08-Jul-2008 22:07:11] <ghettodev> yah
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[08-Jul-2008 23:02:40] <cdehaan> Hello! I added a router under the /network/router/cisco default template, but I want to remove some of the items that are monitored. I can delete them from the device OS tab, but they reappear at each remodel. What's the correct way to remove these from t
[08-Jul-2008 23:07:43] <cdehaan> *from being monitored on this device?
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[08-Jul-2008 23:16:14] <n0c> /eval say that's harsh
[08-Jul-2008 23:16:19] <n0c> haha
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[09-Jul-2008 00:57:17] <cdehaan> :/ Any advice?
[09-Jul-2008 01:03:35] <explody> not from me...
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:22] <cdehaan> haha
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:32] <cdehaan> Aaanyone else?
[09-Jul-2008 01:04:33] <explody> hey, it's better than silence :)
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:46] <cdehaan> Undoubtedly.
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:54] <cdehaan> Well, at least in this case.
[09-Jul-2008 01:07:59] <cdehaan> So you're a Zenoss user?
[09-Jul-2008 01:09:47] <explody> mmm I'm a Zenoss evaluator
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:22] <cdehaan> Evaluator? Considering implementing it?
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:31] <explody> pretty much, yes
[09-Jul-2008 01:13:45] <explody> I've looked into it a few times
[09-Jul-2008 01:19:05] <cdehaan> What others are you comparing it against?
[09-Jul-2008 01:19:25] <cdehaan> I'm in a similar state -- my organization currently uses Nagios, is looking for upgrade paths, and I'm supposed to be implementing Zenoss for them as a test.
[09-Jul-2008 01:22:25] <explody> yeah we use nagios as well
[09-Jul-2008 01:25:18] <cdehaan> What other options are you looking at?
[09-Jul-2008 01:39:48] <kso512> cdehaan: I think you can Lock a device, so that it won't change on the next remodel...
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:26] <cdehaan> kso512: I saw that... is that the proper way to do it, or is the idea really to have each device have it's own "local" template?
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:32] <kso512> cdehaan: or even just parts of a device, like the filesystems, network interfaces, etc
[09-Jul-2008 01:40:52] <cdehaan> You can lock portions?
[09-Jul-2008 01:41:25] <kso512> cdehaan: let me check...
[09-Jul-2008 01:41:53] <cdehaan> You're right, you can
[09-Jul-2008 01:42:33] <kso512> cdehaan: :)
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:04] <cdehaan> So is that the method normally used?
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:24] <kso512> cdehaan: making a special template would help when/if adding new devices.
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:28] <cdehaan> I guess my idea was more that one should customize it and have a template that was customized for each device/set of devices that are the same, instead of just going through and locking
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:33] <kso512> cdehaan: I'm not sure...
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:41] <cdehaan> kso512: OK, so how can I see all templates that are affecting a devices?
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:46] <cdehaan> Does the "templates" tab of a device list them all/
[09-Jul-2008 01:44:50] <kso512> cdehaan: I think your thinking is right.
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:07] <kso512> cdehaan: yep - and it should say where it inherited it from as well
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:13] <cdehaan> OK.
[09-Jul-2008 01:45:22] <cdehaan> So where can I view everything that each template entails?
[09-Jul-2008 01:46:41] <kso512> cdehaan: go to the device class (i.e. /Devices/Server/Linux) and then click on the Templates tab
[09-Jul-2008 01:46:46] <cdehaan> For example, I have one Cisco router added at /Devices/Network/Routers/Cisco/ROUTERNAME. It only shows one template, /Devices/Network//Routers/Cisco. Does this mean that's the only template, nothing is inherited from /Devices or /Devices/Network/Router?
[09-Jul-2008 01:47:56] <kso512> cdehaan: Navigate to /Devices/Network/Router/Cisco, then click on the Templates tab
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:15] <kso512> cdehaan: I have 6 rows listed on my install of 2.2
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:32] <cdehaan> Ok, I do as well.
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:45] <kso512> cdehaan: Is that what you were looking for?
[09-Jul-2008 01:48:50] <cdehaan> So all of those templates apply, how would I disable a particular inherited template for a particular device?
[09-Jul-2008 01:49:44] <cdehaan> like, say there are a bunch of interfaces monitored on said ROUTERNAME, but many of them aren't hooked up to anything, so they are generating warning statements
[09-Jul-2008 01:50:46] <kso512> cdehaan: Hrmm.. Not sure how to make them not inherit certain templates - there are no check boxes...
[09-Jul-2008 01:51:08] <cdehaan> kso512: Haha, sorry, I've roped you in to helping me.
[09-Jul-2008 01:51:45] <kso512> cdehaan: A template would only make sense then if all the devices had the same ports in use... And any new additions would require changing the template. For that case I'd use the lock...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:00] <kso512> cdehaan: Hehehe - no prob...! I learn from this too... :)
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:35] <kso512> I'm also "evaluating" for our company...
[09-Jul-2008 01:52:54] <kso512> I just wish I had the time to really dive in and learn it all, not just dabble and patch...
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:15] <cdehaan> Ok, so a template should essentially contain all possibilities for a set of devices (in this example, Cisco Routers, an already created template), and then the things that that device does not need should be removed and the section locked?
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:27] <kso512> cdehaan: yep
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:40] <cdehaan> OK, I suppose that makes sense.
[09-Jul-2008 01:53:55] <cdehaan> The only issue I see is where a particular service should be added back in to a device, I'm not sure the logistics of that operation
[09-Jul-2008 01:54:01] <cdehaan> But I suppose I can cross that bridge when I come to it
[09-Jul-2008 01:54:59] <cdehaan> I'm no Nagios expert by any means, but I guess I'm used to that way of thinking -- explicitly adding items, whereas Zenoss seems more like a "here's everything we see, remove what you don't want."
[09-Jul-2008 01:55:02] <kso512> cdehaan: unlock, remodel, tidy, lock
[09-Jul-2008 01:55:03] <cdehaan> Which makes equally as much sense.
[09-Jul-2008 02:03:42] <cdehaan> I see.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:00] <cdehaan> Cool. That makes sense.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:04] <cdehaan> Thank you for your help kso512.
[09-Jul-2008 02:12:08] <cdehaan> I really appreciate it
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[09-Jul-2008 10:36:02] <flo_> All, can somebody explain me how I can define process monitoring via snmp during certain times during the day, or point me to a helpful docu/wiki/howto?
[09-Jul-2008 13:06:25] <TBKdan> Any easy ways to monitor an exchange cluster?
[09-Jul-2008 13:36:08] <flo_> nope, different porcesses
[09-Jul-2008 13:45:08] <Dockmaster> Hey all
[09-Jul-2008 13:45:27] <Dockmaster> I need some help configuring Zenwin, anyone help me?
[09-Jul-2008 13:47:00] <Dockmaster> Anyone?
[09-Jul-2008 13:47:21] <TBKdan> What are you trying to do?
[09-Jul-2008 13:51:06] <Dockmaster> I am trying to configure the "zeneventlogconfig", "zenwinconfig", "zenwinmodelerconfig" files, but I cannot find a guide on how to do so
[09-Jul-2008 13:53:13] <Dockmaster> ...any ideas?
[09-Jul-2008 13:56:04] <TBKdan> The only things I have for them are "monitor localhost"
[09-Jul-2008 13:56:18] <TBKdan> Don't know of any other options (never looked though)
[09-Jul-2008 14:00:54] <Dockmaster> Ok, thanks
[09-Jul-2008 14:31:53] <danny2> hi
[09-Jul-2008 14:34:35] <danny2> i'm trying to model a windows xp device. if i put the pc in the servers/windows device group i'm getting a list of installed software. if i put the pc in the discovered group i'm getting a "bad wmi state" error. has anyone an idea what i'm doing wrong ?
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[09-Jul-2008 15:38:39] <kso512> Hi all - Has anyone else seen an issue like this when saving changes to Alerting Rules...?
[09-Jul-2008 15:38:44] <kso512> Type: ConflictError
[09-Jul-2008 15:38:48] <kso512> Value: database conflict error (oid 0x6e27, class Products.ZenEvents.ActionRule.ActionRule)
[09-Jul-2008 15:54:25] <imperfect-> So is the svn verion working on making he google maps thing suck less?
[09-Jul-2008 15:54:26] <imperfect-> ;)
[09-Jul-2008 16:52:25] <TBKdan> What does "Domain Authentication Helper" plugin in zope provide?
[09-Jul-2008 16:52:44] <TBKdan> I mean, what kind of domain? AD? o.O
[09-Jul-2008 17:18:51] <cdehaan> hello! I could use some help. I have a ZenOSS install, and I'm trying to monitor a windows machine. I modeled it, and I get this error during modeling: WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler skipping CRDEHAAN has bad wmi state
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:12] <kso512> cdehaan: You have to make sure you've set up WMI on the device properly. There should be a Zenoss FAQ page regarding checking that...
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:38] <cdehaan> hello again kso512!
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:48] <kso512> cdehaan: also check the devices configuration in Zenoss to make sure you have the right user trying to authenticate
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:49] <cdehaan> OK, I'll take a look -- I couldn't find anything through Google search.
[09-Jul-2008 17:21:53] <kso512> :)
[09-Jul-2008 17:22:22] <duncan_> hey guys, quick question... I have set several nodes production level to maintenance and we still get snmp agent down events when they are turned off... did I miss something?
[09-Jul-2008 17:24:33] <kso512> cdehaan: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/faqs/faq-english#ZenwinMonitoringWindows
[09-Jul-2008 17:24:48] <adytum-bot^> Title: FAQ (English) - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:16] <cdehaan> kso512: When I run the query locally, it appears to be working fine, I get a whole list of services dumped out
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:18] <kso512> duncan_: Not sure
[09-Jul-2008 17:25:46] <kso512> cdehaan: can you connect from another windows machine? May be a firewall blocking it...
[09-Jul-2008 17:28:36] <cdehaan> Yup, works fine from a remote machine.
[09-Jul-2008 17:35:22] <cdehaan> is there a log somewhere in Zenoss that will tell me exactly why this is failing?
[09-Jul-2008 17:36:11] <cdehaan> I do see these in the zenwin log
[09-Jul-2008 17:36:11] <cdehaan> 2008-07-09 11:46:40 DEBUG zen.zenwin: WMI problems on CRDEHAAN: skipping
[09-Jul-2008 17:38:13] <kso512> cdehaan: I don't know any more than that... I'm still working on getting it to work right too :)
[09-Jul-2008 17:39:12] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Have you cleared the event for that device and then retried it?
[09-Jul-2008 17:39:52] <TBKdan> Anybody installed python-ldap on the VM App?
[09-Jul-2008 17:40:52] <cdehaan> TBKdan: I haven't... by "clear" do you mean acknowledge? or move to history? or both?
[09-Jul-2008 17:42:26] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Move to history. You will get that skipping due to WMI problems until you do so.
[09-Jul-2008 17:43:17] <cdehaan> TBKdan: Then remodel?
[09-Jul-2008 17:43:23] <TBKdan> cdehaan: Yup.
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:21] <cdehaan> Very nice.
[09-Jul-2008 17:44:27] <cdeh
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