IRC Jul 2006

[03-Jul-2006 02:10:43] <oubiwann> probably a permissions error
[03-Jul-2006 02:12:04] <oubiwann> yeah, that was it. No logging for over half of last month and the last few days due to incorrect permissions.
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[03-Jul-2006 02:55:07] <praktikant> hello everybody :-) i still have a problem with the "Zenoss VMWare Virtual Appliance"... when I start with '$ZENHOME/bin/zendisc run --net=192.168.1.0' it runs into a keyerror, saying something about '192.168.0.0' :-( wwho is able to help?
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[03-Jul-2006 04:35:43] <aurel> hello
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[03-Jul-2006 08:21:47] <aurel> hello
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[03-Jul-2006 09:31:23] <aurel> hello
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:35] <ecn> hello
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:49] <aurel> my old name was root_ ^^
[03-Jul-2006 09:31:54] <aurel> tell me ecn
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:02] <aurel> all seems to be ok now
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:08] <aurel> how can i monitor
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:09] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:21] <aurel> i go
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:27] <aurel> to the device i want to monitor
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:32] <aurel> click on perf
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:42] <aurel> as one of your team told me yesterday
[03-Jul-2006 09:32:51] <aurel> i wait for 10min
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:00] <aurel> but nothing appears on my screen
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:10] <ecn> is zenperfsnmp running?
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:23] <ecn> run:
[03-Jul-2006 09:33:27] <ecn> zenoss status
[03-Jul-2006 09:37:43] <aurel> k
[03-Jul-2006 09:37:47] <aurel> now it is running
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:20] <aurel> so now i have to go in perf menu
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:26] <aurel> and wait for 10 minutes ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:51] <ecn> no, you should see a graph in there now
[03-Jul-2006 09:38:58] <ecn> no data, but you should have a graph
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[03-Jul-2006 09:40:08] <aurel> i am in /devices/discovered/dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:16] <aurel> in perf menu
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:21] <aurel> but blank screen
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:23] <aurel> :/
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:26] <aurel> no graph
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:38] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:49] <ecn> move dsi13 to some other category
[03-Jul-2006 09:40:54] <ecn> what kind of a device is it?
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:02] <aurel> my computer
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:04] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:05] <aurel> celeron
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:10] <aurel> windows xp
[03-Jul-2006 09:41:34] <ecn> move it to /server/windows
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:17] <ecn> You can move it using the "Manage" tab
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:29] <aurel> i made it
[03-Jul-2006 09:42:58] <aurel> sdf
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:02] <aurel> i put it
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:04] <aurel> in
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:38] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:42] <ecn> now re-run collection on it
[03-Jul-2006 09:43:47] <aurel> a /devices/server/windows/dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:00] <ecn> Same manage tab, "Collect Configuration"
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:12] <ecn> when that completes restart zenperfsnmp:
[03-Jul-2006 09:44:21] <ecn> zenperfsnmp restart
[03-Jul-2006 09:45:47] <aurel> i got the informations
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:01] <aurel> when i clicked on collect configuration
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:09] <aurel> i restarted zenmperfsnmp
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:15] <aurel> but still nothing
[03-Jul-2006 09:46:19] <aurel> in perf :/
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:00] <aurel> why ? :(
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:09] <ecn> good question
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:16] <ecn> I'm trying to think of reasons why
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:28] <aurel> in collection log
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:32] <aurel> i have all the things
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:36] <aurel> good :)
[03-Jul-2006 09:50:59] <ecn> are there any errors in zenperfsnmp.log?
[03-Jul-2006 09:51:31] <aurel> where is this file located ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:51:40] <ecn> $ZENHOME/log
[03-Jul-2006 09:52:41] <aurel> logsave ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:52:55] <aurel> i do have warning
[03-Jul-2006 09:53:00] <aurel> when i launched
[03-Jul-2006 09:53:11] <aurel> zensmpcollect
[03-Jul-2006 09:54:19] <ecn> I'm thinking
[03-Jul-2006 09:54:47] <ecn> so you don't see any warnings/errors in $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log ?
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:41] <aurel> i have no log directory
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:46] <aurel> at zenhome
[03-Jul-2006 09:55:48] <aurel> :(
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:09] <edahl> aurel:
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:15] <edahl> are you running on the vmware image?
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:20] <aurel> yes
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:22] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:43] <edahl> what does echo $ZENHOME give you?
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:50] <aurel> i have
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:52] <aurel> bin
[03-Jul-2006 09:56:59] <aurel> (when i do ls)
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:03] <aurel> ifconfig
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:05] <aurel> mbox
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:07] <aurel> sbin
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:10] <aurel> zenossinst
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:19] <edahl> what is the output of \
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:23] <edahl> echo $ZENHOME
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:46] <edahl> are you user zenoss?
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:48] <aurel> i have nothing written
[03-Jul-2006 09:57:53] <edahl> are you root?
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:12] <edahl> you need to be user zenoss
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:21] <aurel> stai was user zenoss
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:24] <aurel> i was
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:37] <edahl> i'm stumpped
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:51] <edahl> try running
[03-Jul-2006 09:58:53] <edahl> cdz
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:13] <edahl> need to jump to a meeting
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:20] <edahl> cdz should take you to ZENHOME
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:26] <edahl> there will be a log dir there
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:49] <aurel> yes
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:51] <aurel> edahl
[03-Jul-2006 09:59:54] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 10:03:28] <aurel> file seems to be blank :/
[03-Jul-2006 10:04:34] <aurel> oh no
[03-Jul-2006 10:04:39] <aurel> i have many many errors
[03-Jul-2006 10:05:12] <aurel> 1000 ligns for 3 %
[03-Jul-2006 10:05:39] <ecn> which file?
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:40] <aurel> zenperfsnmp.log
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:45] <aurel> but it is becayse
[03-Jul-2006 10:06:59] <aurel> it took me some time to get zenoss work correctly
[03-Jul-2006 10:07:08] <ecn> ok, move the file to a new name and restart zenperfsnmp
[03-Jul-2006 10:07:16] <ecn> and that will give you a fresh set of errors
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:12] <aurel> i have
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:16] <aurel> 2 big warnings
[03-Jul-2006 10:12:26] <aurel> but it is not on my computer
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:35] <aurel> it is for this peripherial
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:36] <aurel> HP ETHERNET MULTI-ENVIRONMENT,ROM F.08.08,JETDIRECT EX,JD40,EEPROM F.08.20
[03-Jul-2006 10:13:48] <aurel> well the ip correspond to it
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:18] <aurel> but the snmp status is down
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:24] <aurel> so i think it is normal
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:27] <aurel> ^^
[03-Jul-2006 10:14:44] <ecn> I do not know why you would not get graphs
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:06] <aurel> i put it on /Devices /server /windows
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:11] <aurel> is it correct ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:13] <ecn> yes
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:35] <ecn> have you turned snmp on in windows?
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:50] <aurel> yep it is green nox
[03-Jul-2006 10:16:51] <aurel> now
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:04] <aurel> ping up snmp up
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:18] <ecn> then I do not know
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:29] <aurel> in fact
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:41] <aurel> i only have to click on collect configuration
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:48] <aurel> and after zensnmp restart
[03-Jul-2006 10:17:58] <aurel> and i should be able to see the graph ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:12] <ecn> yes
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:17] <ecn> it will not have performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:18:39] <ecn> but graphs should show up
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:21] <aurel> what is the difference between zenperfsnmp start and zenperfsnmp start
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:22] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:28] <aurel> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:33] <aurel> and zenperfsnmp run ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:21:57] <ecn> "start" -> runs in the background forever
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:06] <ecn> "run" -> run once in the foreground
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:58] <aurel> is it possible to run or start it only for my device
[03-Jul-2006 10:22:59] <aurel> .
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:00] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:22] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device "your device name"
[03-Jul-2006 10:23:36] <ecn> zenperfsnmp help # <- shows all options
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:18] <aurel> arf
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:20] <aurel> i get
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:25] <aurel> no devices found
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:30] <aurel> keeping existing list
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:40] <ecn> oh
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:53] <aurel> but maybe i shouild tell him the path to go
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:56] <aurel> to dsi13
[03-Jul-2006 10:24:57] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:02] <ecn> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:15] <ecn> is dsi13 the device name in Zenoss?
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:33] <aurel> SNMP sysName DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:42] <aurel> Ping Up
[03-Jul-2006 10:25:46] <aurel> SNMP Up
[03-Jul-2006 10:26:07] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:26:46] <aurel> it worked
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:08] <ecn> did it say something about creating files?
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:08] <aurel> collected 1 on 1 device
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:27] <aurel> i have new mail
[03-Jul-2006 10:27:57] <aurel> zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 1 of 1 device in 0.13
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:26] <aurel> but still nothing in perf
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:33] <aurel> is perf really useful ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:28:41] <ecn> yes, yes it is
[03-Jul-2006 10:29:01] <aurel> i can t see it
[03-Jul-2006 10:29:14] <ecn> what do you see in $ZENHOME/perf/Devices ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:14] <aurel> 40 devices
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:19] <aurel> including
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:20] <ecn> great!
[03-Jul-2006 10:30:21] <aurel> DSI13
[03-Jul-2006 10:31:38] <ecn> try looking at the interfaces:
[03-Jul-2006 10:31:56] <ecn> DSI13 -> OS tab -> click on an interface
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:28] <aurel> correct
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:31] <aurel> see a graph :)
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:34] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:32:54] <ecn> windows doesn't publish performance data in their SNMP
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:02] <ecn> no CPU stats
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:06] <aurel> i have installed
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:12] <aurel> snmp-informant
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:16] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:21] <ecn> then you should see that
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:29] <ecn> now i'm stumped 8-)
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:38] <aurel> :(
[03-Jul-2006 10:33:57] <ecn> perhaps stop/start snmp on windows?
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:04] <ecn> or reboot ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:36] <aurel> you know
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:45] <aurel> it is not really important for me to see the graph
[03-Jul-2006 10:34:59] <aurel> i want the informations
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:03] <aurel> cpu usage
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:04] <aurel> memory
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:05] <aurel> disk
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:09] <aurel> etc..
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:15] <aurel> no pb
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:21] <aurel> if i get it on the interface
[03-Jul-2006 10:35:24] <aurel> :p
[03-Jul-2006 10:39:59] <aurel> ecn, if you could tell me how to do that
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:11] <aurel> it would be really great
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:22] <ecn> you would like to get the snmp numbers?
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <aurel> i don t really understand
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:33] <ecn> the raw snmp data?
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:35] <aurel> snmp
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:38] <aurel> in fact
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:38] <ecn> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:46] <aurel> i know it is a service
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:48] <ecn> Simple Network Monitoring Protocol
[03-Jul-2006 10:40:54] <aurel> which always monitoring
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:01] <aurel> using a comunity
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:10] <aurel> rights
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:15] <aurel> but after
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:24] <aurel> all i want to do is to monitor
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:30] <aurel> please help
[03-Jul-2006 10:41:34] <aurel> i !!m
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:18] <ecn> right now Zenoss does performance monitoring using SNMP
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:34] <ecn> if SNMP is not working for the performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:42:51] <ecn> Zenoss cannot help you
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:17] <ecn> Zenoss does have some tools to monitor windows using WMI
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:35] <ecn> but that is not part of the VMWare image
[03-Jul-2006 10:43:41] <ecn> since it requires a windows box
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:12] <aurel> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:36] <aurel> in my cas
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:37] <aurel> e
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:44] <aurel> you think that performance data
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:47] <aurel> is not working
[03-Jul-2006 10:48:48] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:49:51] <ecn> try this to test:
[03-Jul-2006 10:50:10] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public dsi13 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0
[03-Jul-2006 10:50:58] <aurel> i had no error while doing it
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:07] <ecn> did it print out a number?
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:10] <aurel> no
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:16] <ecn> that's the problem
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:23] <ecn> my results:
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:29] <ecn> UCD-SNMP-MIB::ssCpuRawUser.0 = Counter32: 158856
[03-Jul-2006 10:51:52] <ecn> snmp-informant is not working
[03-Jul-2006 10:52:20] <aurel> ok
[03-Jul-2006 10:52:31] <aurel> my next mission is to make it work then
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:18] <aurel> i have installed the std
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:21] <aurel> is it good N
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:22] <aurel> ?
[03-Jul-2006 10:53:58] <ecn> yes
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[04-Jul-2006 08:08:40] <MAIGAUR> hello
[04-Jul-2006 08:16:10] <ecn> hello
[04-Jul-2006 08:18:59] <MAIGAUR> ecn
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:08] <MAIGAUR> my old name was aurel yesterday
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:10] <MAIGAUR> so
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:12] <MAIGAUR> i have run
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:18] <MAIGAUR> the following commands
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:21] <MAIGAUR> on my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:25] <MAIGAUR> and they workds
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:28] <MAIGAUR> workes
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:30] <MAIGAUR> worked
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:39] <MAIGAUR> but i still can t do perf
[04-Jul-2006 08:19:53] <MAIGAUR> snmpgetnext -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:01] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.2.4.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:05] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v1 -c public DSI13 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.3.1.3
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:11] <MAIGAUR> snmpget -v 1 -c public DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:17] <MAIGAUR> snmpget -v 1 -c public DSI13 .system.sysUpTime.0
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:22] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -OX -c public -v 1 DSI13 .1.3.6.1.2.1.2
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:34] <MAIGAUR> but this one doesn t work
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:41] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[04-Jul-2006 08:20:43] <MAIGAUR> :(
[04-Jul-2006 08:21:15] <ecn> right... that's the one that should be covered by snmp-informant
[04-Jul-2006 08:21:58] <ecn> well, the syntax I gave yesterday...
[04-Jul-2006 08:25:03] <ecn> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost ssCpuRawUser
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:16] <MAIGAUR> damn
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:26] <MAIGAUR> but this is working for my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:34] <MAIGAUR> so it is not snmp perf
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:47] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:27:50] <ecn> question:
[04-Jul-2006 08:28:04] <ecn> you don't see perf graphs for suse AND windows?
[04-Jul-2006 08:28:15] <ecn> that is, you don't have perf graphs for anything
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:08] <MAIGAUR> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost ssCpuRawUser
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:16] <MAIGAUR> works for my suse box
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:20] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:29:52] <ecn> ok, good
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:04] <ecn> then it is simply snmp-informant not working
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:20] <ecn> which is strange because nobody else has had a problem with it
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:26] <MAIGAUR> linux includes an equivalent to snmp-informant ?
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:28] <ecn> including me, and I don't know anything about windows 8-)
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:32] <MAIGAUR> lool
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:41] <ecn> yes, linux publishes those values
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:44] <MAIGAUR> k
[04-Jul-2006 08:30:52] <ecn> windows does not, without an extension
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:11] <ecn> this is one of a million reasons why I don't know anything about windows
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:21] <MAIGAUR> :/
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:48] <MAIGAUR> i don t understand why
[04-Jul-2006 08:31:54] <MAIGAUR> performant doesn t work
[04-Jul-2006 08:32:00] <ecn> me, either
[04-Jul-2006 08:32:12] <ecn> how old is your windows?
[04-Jul-2006 08:33:37] <MAIGAUR> you think i should reinstall ?
[04-Jul-2006 08:33:55] <ecn> this is not my area of expertise
[04-Jul-2006 08:34:27] <ecn> it should work, and has worked for everyone else I know who has used it, so something strange is going on
[04-Jul-2006 08:37:48] <MAIGAUR> i am happy for them
[04-Jul-2006 08:37:53] <MAIGAUR> ^^
[04-Jul-2006 08:38:08] <MAIGAUR> snmp is working dmn
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:23] <ecn> maigaur... today is a US holiday... i'm going to go out and enjoy the sweltering heat 8-)
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:34] <MAIGAUR> ok
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:36] <MAIGAUR> no pb
[04-Jul-2006 08:39:51] <MAIGAUR> have a nice day
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[05-Jul-2006 09:55:22] <maigaur> hello
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:32] <ecn> hello
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:55] <maigaur> did you have a nice day yesterday ?
[05-Jul-2006 09:55:57] <maigaur> :p
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:12] <ecn> yes, very nice... thunderstorms blew through and cooled things down
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:19] <ecn> just in time for fireworks
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:47] <maigaur> oki
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:51] <maigaur> i made tests
[05-Jul-2006 09:56:56] <maigaur> for snmp-informant
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:04] <maigaur> on 3 different windows
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:04] <maigaur> xp
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:11] <maigaur> machines
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:22] <maigaur> snmp is always up
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:48] <maigaur> but commands to check if informant is working never work
[05-Jul-2006 09:57:52] <maigaur> :(
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:00] <maigaur> when i install informant
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:08] <maigaur> are there anything else i have to do
[05-Jul-2006 09:58:17] <maigaur> after having read the readme file ?
[05-Jul-2006 09:59:26] <ecn> try this test:
[05-Jul-2006 09:59:56] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[05-Jul-2006 10:01:35] <ecn> where hostname is your Windows box name
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[05-Jul-2006 11:08:24] <stokvis> Anyone there?
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[05-Jul-2006 11:22:04] <ecn> test test test
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[05-Jul-2006 12:31:06] <stokvis> +v
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[05-Jul-2006 14:07:16] <creiht> edahl: Is there a way to send alerts for Infrastructure issues?
[05-Jul-2006 14:08:50] <edahl> not today
[05-Jul-2006 14:09:11] <edahl> let me find the bug number I think we will get this for 0.21 which is Friday
[05-Jul-2006 14:10:02] <edahl> #159
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[05-Jul-2006 15:06:56] <zaf> is there a way to add devices from the command line, or some other batch means
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[05-Jul-2006 15:15:30] <edahl> there once was.... let me look
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:05] <edahl> the batch loading stuff looks pretty old and crunchy
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:23] <edahl> you can use Device.py's manage_createDevice
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:30] <edahl> to load devices from zendmd
[05-Jul-2006 15:20:57] <edahl> let me put a bug in for this
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:11] <edahl> bug #168
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:27] <edahl> we are planning release on Friday
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:34] <zaf> cool
[05-Jul-2006 15:22:44] <edahl> so it won't be until next release most likely
[05-Jul-2006 15:24:32] <zaf> i've got a bunch of the same model managed switch on different networks, so it's like 10.20.n.5, so it would be nice to enter the info for it once and have it fill every switch
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:26] <edahl> got it we should auto discover the model etc are they cisco?
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:49] <zaf> dell powerconnect
[05-Jul-2006 15:27:59] <edahl> hum interesting
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:34] <zaf> for auto discovering, is there a place to put in community strings to try
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:48] <edahl> yep
[05-Jul-2006 15:28:59] <edahl> zSnmpCommunities
[05-Jul-2006 15:29:11] <edahl> in /Devices
[05-Jul-2006 15:29:37] <zaf> ah, thanks
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[05-Jul-2006 18:40:57] <creiht> oubiwann: Are you around?
[05-Jul-2006 18:43:17] <oubiwann> yup
[05-Jul-2006 18:45:59] <creiht> oubiwann: Have you started work on the HTTP polling improvements yet?
[05-Jul-2006 18:46:56] <oubiwann> yeah, I've started on it. But that translates to: "I've started digging into the ZenStatus code and am exploring the best near-term solution for adding this feature"
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:05] <creiht> hehe
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:30] <b_52Free> what does zenoos have more than tools like nagions
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:31] <b_52Free> ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:34] <b_52Free> nagios
[05-Jul-2006 18:47:54] <b_52Free> zenoss sorry....
[05-Jul-2006 18:48:48] <creiht> oubiwann: Is it planned to record performance of the service polling (response time) this time aroung or is that later?
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:08] <creiht> b_52Free: I haven't really used nagios so I'm not sure
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:11] <oubiwann> creiht: I'm also going to be using divmod's Combinator tool for branch management, so what you'll be looking for won't be developed at "regular speed"
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:24] <oubiwann> since it's my first time using Combinator
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:31] <creiht> hmmm
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:35] <creiht> What is Combinator
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:35] <b_52Free> creiht, hm ok
[05-Jul-2006 18:49:41] <oubiwann> creiht: it's in the tracker item for this round
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:17] <oubiwann> b_52Free: the last time I used Nagios was in disgust... in 2001 I think
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:32] <oubiwann> b_52Free: that's why I started the pymon project
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:54] <creiht> hmmm Combinator looks interesting
[05-Jul-2006 18:50:59] <creiht> I need to look at that closer
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:11] <oubiwann> b_52Free: I had used it and liked it both as NetSaint and Nagios... but
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:27] <creiht> We are trying to figure out a better way to do branching with SVN here
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:32] <oubiwann> when I had to start digging and writing my own stuff, I was faced with an architecture that I did not like
[05-Jul-2006 18:51:57] <oubiwann> creiht: I'm going to be writing up procedures for using Combinator with Zenoss
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:06] <creiht> cool
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:08] <oubiwann> probably sometime in the next month or so
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:40] <b_52Free> hm ok
[05-Jul-2006 18:52:47] <oubiwann> yeah, so that will be really useful -- a contextual example that you could use as inspiration for your own stuff
[05-Jul-2006 18:53:32] <b_52Free> oubiwann, but nagios / zenoss offer the same feature ; just the way they that they are doing the work is not the same ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:53:52] <oubiwann> b_52Free: Zenoss and I share a very similar philosophy WRT development and architecture, and we've got some exciting things planned
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:15] <b_52Free> WRT = ?
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:24] <korozion> I came from a large Nagios setup, and from what I've seen, Zenoss is MUCH easier to set up initially, and MUCH easier to keep things going and up to date.
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:25] <oubiwann> b_52Free: "With Regard To"
[05-Jul-2006 18:54:35] <oubiwann> korozion: exactly
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:07] <creiht> b_52Free: Nagios also does not scale
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:09] <oubiwann> korozion: that was the biggest problem we had with Nagios: setup/configuration in a timely, consistent manner and maintenance of the software
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:34] <korozion> I just stumbled on zenoss the other day from an article in LinuxWorld. We run zope and django and lots of python. So Zenoss just fit in perfectly :D
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:43] <b_52Free> oubiwann, but the most atracive thing in zenoss ; it's PYTHON AND ZOPE :)
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:46] <oubiwann> korozion: sweet :-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:51] <korozion> heh, very
[05-Jul-2006 18:55:57] <korozion> I was SO happy when I found it
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:41] <oubiwann> b_52Free: for me, the most attractive part of Zenoss is Twisted and Python ;-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:44] <korozion> I'm having dinner with Adrian Holovaty next month, I'll bring it up :)
[05-Jul-2006 18:56:56] <oubiwann> korozion: nice!
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:05] <korozion> yep, can't wait to meet him
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:18] <b_52Free> oubiwann, i didn't touch Twisted yet :^
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:39] <oubiwann> b_52Free: yeah, I live and breathe twisted these days :-)
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:47] <oubiwann> b_52Free: it's my sanity
[05-Jul-2006 18:57:52] <b_52Free> :)
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:07] <korozion> I registered on the zenoss site, and made a note that I'd help with the Debian install side of things, looking forward to hearing back
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:30] <korozion> I'd like to jump ahead an put zenoss into production on one of my Debian servers soon
[05-Jul-2006 18:58:56] <creiht> korozion: I installed on Ubuntu with no problems
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:01] <korozion> nice
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:04] <creiht> Someone was working on making an Ubuntu package
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:11] <creiht> I'm not sure what happened to that
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:15] <oubiwann> creiht: yeah, I think that was Spec
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:16] <korozion> I'm sure it's easy, but I read something about needing certification of the install or something
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:20] <oubiwann> haven't heard from him in a while
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:27] <korozion> hell, I'll document everything I do, and build a deb if need be
[05-Jul-2006 18:59:43] <oubiwann> korozion: that'd be great
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:16] <korozion> great, I'll keep you updated. bbiab
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:24] <oubiwann> I was hoping Spec would continue, because he was talking about breaking out Zenoss into individual packages, based on dependency
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:32] <creiht> Yeah
[05-Jul-2006 19:00:36] <oubiwann> and I think that's a great direction to move in
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[06-Jul-2006 03:17:48] <stokvis> is anyone there?
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[06-Jul-2006 04:21:52] <koroded> heya, it'
[06-Jul-2006 04:22:05] <koroded> it's korozion. No need to panic :)
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[06-Jul-2006 14:08:27] <deezthugs> i am evaluating zenoss for deployment at work and was wondering if any unit testing is being done during development? I notice test directories but they seem to contain some informal functional tests
[06-Jul-2006 14:09:55] <ecn> testing is lagging at this time
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:02] <ecn> we know it needs to be fixed
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:16] <ecn> the software is used every day in an operational way
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:23] <deezthugs> ok. any plans to use a harness and UnitTest or nose or py.test?
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:43] <ecn> I don't know what harness will be used
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:45] <deezthugs> or mock objects, etc?
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:50] <deezthugs> ok
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:51] <deezthugs> cool
[06-Jul-2006 14:10:58] <ecn> I think that's less important than just sitting down and pounding out tests
[06-Jul-2006 14:11:07] <deezthugs> indeed
[06-Jul-2006 14:11:26] <deezthugs> py.test and nose do not require any special classes to bewritten, just functions
[06-Jul-2006 14:24:33] <creiht> Does anyone have any experience pulling SNMP information from DELL DRAC cards?
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:18] <ecn> ya, I think Erik does
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:28] <ecn> which is why there's a /server/linux/dell category
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:32] <creiht> Ahhh cool
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:36] <creiht> I need to poke him :)
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:39] <ecn> but that's a guess
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:50] <ecn> he's at a customer site today
[06-Jul-2006 14:25:57] <creiht> ok
[06-Jul-2006 14:26:27] <ecn> if you have the Mib and can snmp walk it, you can probably do a template yourself
[06-Jul-2006 14:27:03] <creiht> Cool... I wanted to see if anyone has any experience with it
[06-Jul-2006 14:27:13] <creiht> I need to get a DRAC installed on our box first
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[06-Jul-2006 16:28:54] <deezthugs> i finally got zenoss running on os x, but I cannot actually log in to zenoss or view the /zport/dmd screen... i think some configuration must have failed after this:
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <deezthugs> Restoring backup
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:55] <deezthugs> Starting Zope Object Database
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> . . Unlinking stale socket /usr/local/zenoss/etc/zeo.zdsock; sleep 1
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> . daemon process started, pid=5792
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:56] <deezthugs> Migrating data
[06-Jul-2006 16:28:58] <deezthugs> Data migration failed
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:15] <deezthugs> is there a way to start that install over from this point?
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:20] <ecn> yep
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:24] <ecn> delete $ZENHOME
[06-Jul-2006 16:29:54] <deezthugs> oh so i have to start over from scratch?
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:00] <ecn> make sure zope and friends are not running
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:15] <ecn> kill anything that looks like python and "z"-something
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:25] <ecn> no, it's all built in the build directory
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:29] <ecn> just not installed
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:33] <ecn> it will go much quicker
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:53] <deezthugs> nice
[06-Jul-2006 16:30:55] <deezthugs> thx
[06-Jul-2006 16:31:39] <ecn> that's not to say it isn't time to get some coffee
[06-Jul-2006 16:33:16] <deezthugs> indeed
[06-Jul-2006 16:34:00] <deezthugs> btw: zenoss seems to build and run everything ok if you build python from source on an intel mac
[06-Jul-2006 16:34:32] <deezthugs> MacPython seems to be no good with zenoss
[06-Jul-2006 16:38:12] <Nitros> you probably got further than i did with my zenoss on ubuntu
[06-Jul-2006 16:38:43] <deezthugs> it all installed but died during data migration. i dont know why i said yes
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:35] <Nitros> does anyone know of a hold-your-hand faq for ubuntu?
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:46] <Nitros> [on installing zenoss]?
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:46] <amodlin> what kind of FAQ
[06-Jul-2006 16:39:56] <amodlin> I can help you out on that, I did that a few weeks ago
[06-Jul-2006 16:40:11] <Nitros> sweet. i'm starting off with a blank dapper server box
[06-Jul-2006 16:40:20] <amodlin> ok, one sec
[06-Jul-2006 16:41:34] <amodlin> first things to check are do you have current versions of python/mysql/gcc and python-devel, mysql-server
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:03] <amodlin> if not, you need to get updated versions from the repository
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:13] <Nitros> converted into ubuntu-speak, that would be build-essential, python-2.4, mysql5-blah-blah
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:27] <amodlin> yes i believe so
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:27] <Nitros> yeah, my repository is up2date
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:30] <amodlin> ok
[06-Jul-2006 16:43:44] <amodlin> have you configured mysql yet?
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:02] <Nitros> yes, i already have a zenoss user and database, login and password waiting on it
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:14] <Nitros> user in mysql that is
[06-Jul-2006 16:44:30] <Nitros> i ran the install.sh script ...
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[06-Jul-2006 16:44:51] <amodlin> ah, and something exploded?
[06-Jul-2006 16:45:00] <Nitros> and it is trying to untar CMF-1.5.6 and its getting no such file or directory
[06-Jul-2006 16:46:16] <amodlin> Hm, I've never seen that problem and I'm not the install guy, if you want I can have them send you an email when they get a chance to look at your problem
[06-Jul-2006 16:47:48] <Nitros> that's cool, could you describe the steps you did to install it, maybe i missed something
[06-Jul-2006 16:47:57] <Nitros> packages - check
[06-Jul-2006 16:48:01] <Nitros> configure mysql - check
[06-Jul-2006 16:50:49] <amodlin> ok
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:09] <amodlin> I'll definately let them know, can I get your email to send to them?
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:22] <Nitros> redhatnick@gmail.com
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:32] <ecn> you could CMF-1.5.6 should be in zenossinst/externallibs
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:37] <ecn> that is:
[06-Jul-2006 16:51:44] <ecn> CMF-1.5.6 should be in zenossinst/externallibs
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:05] <ecn> and the install.sh/GNUmakefile should find it in there
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:13] <ecn> make sure ZENHOME is set
[06-Jul-2006 16:52:56] <Nitros> i have ZENHOME set to /usr/local/zenoss
[06-Jul-2006 16:53:20] <ecn> the install script is pretty good about checking the env vars now
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:24] <Nitros> http://blueheron.livejournal.com/145996.html
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:28] <Nitros> do you think that is a good guide?
[06-Jul-2006 16:54:41] <adytum-bot> Title: blueheron: Zenoss (at blueheron.livejournal.com)
[06-Jul-2006 16:55:05] <Nitros> good bot. good bot.
[06-Jul-2006 16:55:16] * Nitros throws the bot a bone.
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[07-Jul-2006 03:16:50] <stokvis> anyone there?
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[07-Jul-2006 04:49:14] <stokvis> Anyone there? :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:01:08] <oubiwann> yup
[07-Jul-2006 05:11:30] <stokvis> great
[07-Jul-2006 05:11:49] <stokvis> I have been trying for a few days now to get this working :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:12:05] <stokvis> shows you how bad I am
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[07-Jul-2006 05:33:12] <oubiwann> stokvis: heh, no prob :-)
[07-Jul-2006 05:36:36] <stokvis> I have a problem installing zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 05:36:42] <stokvis> can I discuss this here?
[07-Jul-2006 05:38:23] <maigaur_> yes you can
[07-Jul-2006 05:41:27] <stokvis> I get an error when I run install.sh
[07-Jul-2006 05:41:45] <stokvis> just after the command installing zope
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:33] <stokvis> I looked in the zenbuild.log
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:36] <stokvis> and found this
[07-Jul-2006 05:42:38] <stokvis> error: must supply either home or prefix/exec-prefix -- not both
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[07-Jul-2006 05:58:45] <maigaur_> i think you have to choose
[07-Jul-2006 05:58:48] <maigaur_> home
[07-Jul-2006 05:59:26] <stokvis> where would I set this option?
[07-Jul-2006 06:00:03] <stokvis> or do I haver to do it when running install.sh /home=
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[07-Jul-2006 06:24:05] <oubiwann> stokvis: what is the exact command you are using to install zenoss?
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:15] <oubiwann> stokvis: are you just typeing
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:19] <oubiwann> "install.sh"
[07-Jul-2006 06:24:25] <oubiwann> or something else, too?
[07-Jul-2006 06:31:28] <stokvis> no just ./install.sh
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[07-Jul-2006 07:57:09] <maigaur_> hello
[07-Jul-2006 07:57:15] <ecn> hello
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:39] <maigaur_> ecn, I still have the same problem
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:40] <maigaur_> :(
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:46] <maigaur_> do you know
[07-Jul-2006 07:59:51] <maigaur_> if there are other things
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:03] <maigaur_> to do when snmp informant is installe
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:03] <maigaur_> d
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:13] <maigaur_> to configure it or whatever
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:13] <ecn> no, I'm sorry I don't
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:31] <ecn> Like I said, I have installed it exactly once and it worked right away
[07-Jul-2006 08:00:49] <maigaur_> which version are you using ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:05] <maigaur_> i have windows sp service pack 2
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:17] <maigaur_> maybe i need another version of snmp-informant
[07-Jul-2006 08:01:58] <ecn> I am also running windows xp sp2
[07-Jul-2006 08:02:59] <ecn> did you try this:
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:01] <ecn> snmpwalk -v1 -c public hostname 1.3.6.1.4.1.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:40] <maigaur_> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.9600.1.1.5.1.5.6.95.84.111.116.97.108 = Gauge32: 0
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:45] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:03:48] <ecn> that's good
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:07] <maigaur_> but that s not informant you told me, right ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:18] <ecn> is your windows box organized under /servers/windows
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:19] <ecn> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:30] <maigaur_> i have a suse box in fact
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:32] <maigaur_> :/
[07-Jul-2006 08:04:34] <ecn> actually, I think that is what informant publishes
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:41] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:53] <maigaur_> but you know, i have a suse bo
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:54] <maigaur_> w
[07-Jul-2006 08:05:55] <maigaur_> x
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:11] <ecn> you have 2 machines, right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:16] <ecn> one that is windows: not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:17] <maigaur_> yep
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:21] <maigaur_> one on linux
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:21] <ecn> one that is suse: not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:25] <maigaur_> with zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:30] <maigaur_> the other with windows
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:38] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:44] <maigaur_> and snmp-informant (normally) installed
[07-Jul-2006 08:06:49] <ecn> is the windows server organized under /servers/windows?
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:03] <ecn> you can change it with the manage tab when you view the device
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:15] <maigaur_> the server is the computer with snmp-informant installed
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:16] <maigaur_> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:07:43] <maigaur_> if yes, he is in it
[07-Jul-2006 08:08:13] <ecn> the suse box is organized under /servers/linux, right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:12] <maigaur_> windows server in /Devices /servers /windows /DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:24] <ecn> good
[07-Jul-2006 08:11:46] <maigaur_> suse on /Devices /servers /linux /zenoss
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:23] <maigaur_> i have to do collect configuration
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:37] <maigaur_> and after zenperfsnmp
[07-Jul-2006 08:14:43] <maigaur_> restart ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:07] <ecn> no
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:20] <ecn> just restart zenperfsnmp to make sure it's reading the current setup
[07-Jul-2006 08:15:40] <ecn> and look for errors in $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:04] <ecn> zenperfsnmp restart
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:26] <ecn> tail -f $ZENHOME/log/zenperfsnmp.log &
[07-Jul-2006 08:17:41] <ecn> any errors?
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> 2006-07-03 10:07:39 WARNING twsnmp.protocol: Bad response from ('172.29.1.242', 161): '0\x81\x9d\x02\x01\x00\x04\x06public\xa2\x81\x8f\x02\x02\x01\xbd\x02\x01\x00\x02\x01\x000\x81\x820\x10\x06\x08+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x01\x03\x00C\x04\x81j\x8dr0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\n\x01A\x04T\xea=h0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0b\x01A\x03\rR\xc40\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0e\x01A\x01f0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> \x10\x01A\x04\x02\x1b\x15\x9c0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x11\x01A\x03\x07\t\x970\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x14\x01A\x01\x00'
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:36] <maigaur_> 2006-07-03 10:07:44 WARNING twsnmp.protocol: Bad response from ('172.29.1.242', 161): '0\x81\x9d\x02\x01\x00\x04\x06public\xa2\x81\x8f\x02\x02\x02`\x02\x01\x00\x02\x01\x000\x81\x820\x10\x06\x08+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x01\x03\x00C\x04\x81j\x8f\xac0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\n\x01A\x04T\xeaC\xca0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0b\x01A\x03\rR\xc50\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x0e\x01A\x01f0\x12\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:39] <maigaur_> x01\x10\x01A\x04\x02\x1b\x16r0\x11\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x11\x01A\x03\x07\t\x980\x0f\x06\n+\x06\x01\x02\x01\x02\x02\x01\x14\x01A\x01\x00'
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:49] <maigaur_> but it is not for my ip
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:54] <maigaur_> for another computer
[07-Jul-2006 08:25:59] <maigaur_> for mine no erri
[07-Jul-2006 08:26:01] <maigaur_> error
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[07-Jul-2006 08:27:51] <ecn> ok
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:15] <ecn> when you look at DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:18] <maigaur_> i restart
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:26] <maigaur_> zenperfsnmp
[07-Jul-2006 08:28:37] <ecn> you see graphs for your interfaces, but not for performance, still?
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT008064173992.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A8A5B.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641900FE.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A662D.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device dsi18.chrobinson.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:00] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806411BDB5.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:02] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806418903D.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:04] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device DSI2
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:06] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806417A607.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:08] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806418F331.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:10] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806417396A.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:12] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT008064189020.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:15] <maigaur_> INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 34 of 47 devices in 24.67
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:17] <maigaur_> WARNING:zen.zenperfsnmp:snmp agent down on device WBT00806419F614.chreurope.com
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:19] <maigaur_> new errors
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:20] <maigaur_> but still not for mine :/
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:25] <ecn> right
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:45] <maigaur_> yes
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:47] <ecn> those are boxes not running snmp, or for which you do not have a community string, or are behind firewalls
[07-Jul-2006 08:29:47] <maigaur_> i have graphs
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:01] <maigaur_> for interface
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:05] <maigaur_> i have graphs
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:07] <maigaur_> but
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:10] <maigaur_> it is strange
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:14] <maigaur_> it is a vertical bar
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:17] <maigaur_> green
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:21] <ecn> 8-)
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:30] <ecn> way over on the right?
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:44] <maigaur_> correct
[07-Jul-2006 08:30:56] <ecn> good!
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:09] <ecn> that's the current value
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:32] <ecn> it will fill right to left
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:36] <ecn> as time goes on
[07-Jul-2006 08:31:56] <maigaur_> but thas has nothing to do with snmp informant :(
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:19] <ecn> you are looking at the interface graphs or the performance graph?
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:28] <maigaur_> interface
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:31] <maigaur_> is working
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:37] <maigaur_> perf not
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:38] <maigaur_> :(
[07-Jul-2006 08:32:43] <ecn> no graphs under perf?
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:08] <maigaur_> no
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:08] <maigaur_> :(
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:24] <ecn> try running this:
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:30] <maigaur_> don t know why snmp informant doesn t work for me
[07-Jul-2006 08:33:35] <ecn> zenperfsnmp run --device DSI13 -v 10
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Updated snmpCycleInterval config to 60
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Gathering performance data for DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Configured 1 devices
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:received config for DSI13
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:getting device ping issues
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:15] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Unresponsive devices: []
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:17] <maigaur_> INFO:zen.zenperfsnmp:collected 1 of 1 devices in 0.11
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:19] <maigaur_> DEBUG:zen.zenperfsnmp:Sent 7 SNMP OID requests
[07-Jul-2006 08:34:44] <ecn> that's perfect
[07-Jul-2006 08:35:05] <maigaur_> perf ect ^^
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:15] <ecn> I think it should have asked for more OIDs than it did
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:30] <maigaur_> :(
[07-Jul-2006 08:36:47] <ecn> a scan of my linux box asks for 34 OIDs
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:01] <ecn> but I presently have 5 or 6 network interfaces
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:24] <maigaur_> lol
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:27] <ecn> I don't have a windows box to mess with right now, but I'll be booting over to The Dark Side in a little while
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:40] <maigaur_> loooooooolk
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:48] <ecn> just don't tell anyone
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:52] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:53] <maigaur_> no b
[07-Jul-2006 08:37:55] <maigaur_> pb
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:27] <maigaur_> on my suse box
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:35] <maigaur_> it also returned me 7 oid
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:45] <maigaur_> it is almost the same machine
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:48] <maigaur_> i think it is good
[07-Jul-2006 08:38:54] <maigaur_> but you know
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:15] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v1 -c public dsi13 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.11.50.0
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:26] <ecn> ya, that was wrong
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:31] <maigaur_> and snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory is not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:39:39] <ecn> snmp-informant publishes under a different OID
[07-Jul-2006 08:40:23] <maigaur_> okio
[07-Jul-2006 08:41:14] <ecn> if you look at the templates you can see the OID values being used for each category
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[07-Jul-2006 08:44:16] <maigaur_> where are the templates please ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:10] <maigaur_> ?
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:36] <ecn> PerfConf tab
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:54] <maigaur_> good
[07-Jul-2006 08:48:55] <maigaur_> 1.3.6.1.2.1.1.3.0
[07-Jul-2006 08:49:09] <maigaur_> sysUpTime
[07-Jul-2006 08:49:55] <maigaur_> type gauge
[07-Jul-2006 08:50:09] <maigaur_> damn why is it not working
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:07] <ecn> will you be online much longer?
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:14] <maigaur_> yes
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:17] <ecn> I have some customer issues to look into
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:17] <maigaur_> for 2 hours
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:24] <maigaur_> oki
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:26] <maigaur_> no pb
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:30] <ecn> then I will boot to windows and will have more things to compare
[07-Jul-2006 08:53:37] <maigaur_> :)
[07-Jul-2006 08:54:08] <maigaur_> this is drving me crazy, i just can't sleep
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[07-Jul-2006 10:04:44] <maigaur_> ecn, tell me when you have rebooted :p
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[07-Jul-2006 11:14:02] <zaf> we still expecting a new version today?
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[07-Jul-2006 11:15:29] <ecn> yes, that's the plan
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[07-Jul-2006 11:27:35] <ecn> zaf is prolly gonna turn blue
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:05] * creiht laughs
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:09] <creiht> edahl!
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:43] <creiht> edahl: Do you have any experience monitoring Dell machines through a DRAC?
[07-Jul-2006 11:28:58] <edahl> we were just working on that at a client site yesterday
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:06] <creiht> cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:18] <edahl> new trap stuff processes traps from the DRAC
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:24] <creiht> Very cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:29:41] <creiht> I need to set traps for RAID problems
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:34] <creiht> I'm really looking forward to the new version
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <zaf> you can get all that from the drac interface?
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:42] <creiht> It should open up a lot of new possibilities for us
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:48] <edahl> traps and process monitoring are very cool
[07-Jul-2006 11:31:53] <creiht> Theoretically yes
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:08] <zaf> ooh, i thought it was just for console type stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:10] <zaf> nice :)
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:38] <edahl> we had some issues finding the mibs for the DRAC (its not in the current version of OpenManage)
[07-Jul-2006 11:32:40] <creiht> With the Dell Open Manage software you can have the DRAC send SNMP traps for all sorts of stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:33:15] <zaf> and it comes from the ip of the drac, and not the regular ethernet?
[07-Jul-2006 11:33:43] <creiht> zaf: I believe so... The DRAC has its own nic
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:08] <edahl> yes from the DRAC ip
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:20] <edahl> we have DRACS in as separate devices
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:41] <zaf> yeah, i've been trying to figure out where to put them, heh
[07-Jul-2006 11:35:55] <edahl> we made a new device class
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:08] <edahl> /Server/Manager
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:15] <edahl> or something like that
[07-Jul-2006 11:36:22] <edahl> maybe /Server/DRAC
[07-Jul-2006 11:40:02] * zaf resumes holding his breath
[07-Jul-2006 11:42:29] <mooey> howdy
[07-Jul-2006 11:42:41] <mooey> i have some questions about zenoss, and now seems like a suitable time to ask them ^_^
[07-Jul-2006 11:43:50] <mooey> we have a bunch of dell poweredge servers, which i understand i can monitor with zenoss. can zenoss obtain and generate bandwidth graphs for ports on a dell switch, and can it obtain and generate graphs for things like temperature of a poweredge?
[07-Jul-2006 11:45:22] <zaf> i've got it running on some dell powerconnect 3424s and 3448s. it pulls traffic from the interfaces. i think i need to do more tweaking on it though
[07-Jul-2006 11:46:54] <mooey> hm o_O what about temperatures and such forth, do i need to install an smnp server on the machines or does openmanage do that?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:16] <zaf> does it have a drac?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:29] <mooey> nah
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:39] <creiht> mooey: Are they running Windows or Linux?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:44] <mooey> a mixture :}
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:53] <edahl> does dell mib publish temp?
[07-Jul-2006 11:47:54] <mooey> mostly windows tho
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:20] <mooey> i'm not sure. temperature was just an example, things like cpu / memory usage is whats most important
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:44] <mooey> im just trying to understand exactly what zenoss really is, and what information it can report from dell machines with openmanage
[07-Jul-2006 11:48:48] <edahl> install free agent from snmp-informant.com for windows cpu/memory
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:00] <edahl> on linux run net-snmp
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:24] <mooey> we have that already on the linux machines
[07-Jul-2006 11:49:27] <creiht> mooey: snmp-informant.com also has a motherboard monitor agent that can pull CPU temperature, but I have not used it
[07-Jul-2006 11:50:35] <edahl> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/2.0/en/SNMP/snmpc9.htm#wp1039152
[07-Jul-2006 11:50:36] <edahl> dell has lots of type stuff
[07-Jul-2006 11:51:15] <mooey> does openmanage expose them?
[07-Jul-2006 11:51:21] <mooey> excuse my ignorance :(
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:07] <edahl> yes
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:21] <mooey> excellent
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:28] <mooey> thank you all =) i will go have a play
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:47] <mooey> the vmware player demo thingy... thats sweet
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:49] <mooey> really useful
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:49] <edahl> take a look at that link
[07-Jul-2006 11:52:57] <edahl> cool
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[10-Jul-2006 06:12:09] <deflowjo> hello
[10-Jul-2006 06:14:25] <deflowjo> help:i've just installed zenoss 0.20.1 on vmware desktop, it doesn't discover devices
[10-Jul-2006 06:15:25] <deflowjo> failed to parse host unreachable packet; any idea?
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[10-Jul-2006 08:06:11] <maigaur_> ecn anhello
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[10-Jul-2006 08:38:53] <maigaur_> hell
[10-Jul-2006 08:38:55] <maigaur_> o
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[10-Jul-2006 08:41:24] <ecn> hello
[10-Jul-2006 08:41:38] <ecn> sorry about friday: we were very busy with the release
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:02] <maigaur_> no pb
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:38] <maigaur_> so
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:43] <maigaur_> the following commands
[10-Jul-2006 08:46:47] <maigaur_> work on my pc
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/svradmin/2.0/en/SNMP/snmpc9.htm#wp1039152
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .disc
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .processor
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:06] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .ip
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .time
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .network
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .internet
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .os
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:07] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .find
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:08] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .connection
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:10] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .route
[10-Jul-2006 08:47:59] <maigaur_> when i do collect configuration i have
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 WARNING zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:00] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:02 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMap
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:05] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:07] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources storage device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:09] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing interfaces for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:11] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['172.29.1.85/24']' on object Intel_R_ PRO_100 M Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:14] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['127.0.0.1/8']' on object MS TCP Loopback interface
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:17] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:06 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources software for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:19] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing system info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:21] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell cpu for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:23] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell pci cards for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:25] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing routes for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:27] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing hp cpu info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:31] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing informant hard disks for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:33] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing Ip Services for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:35] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap changes applied
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:37] <maigaur_> 2006-07-10 05:47:07 INFO zen.Device collected snmp information for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 08:48:39] <maigaur_> :/
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:15] <maigaur_> those don't
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 08:49:16] <maigaur_> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
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[10-Jul-2006 09:05:12] <maigaur_> ecn are you still there ?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:00:02] <maigaur> ecn
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:08] <maigaur> are you back ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:10] <maigaur> :p
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:16] <maigaur> to help me a little
[10-Jul-2006 10:00:34] <maigaur> if you don t have time no problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:01:19] <ecn> sorry... got some monday problems
[10-Jul-2006 10:01:28] <ecn> should never make a release on a friday 8-)
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[10-Jul-2006 10:04:32] <maigaur> lool
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:35] <maigaur> so
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:50] <maigaur> on my windows box
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .disc
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .processor
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .ip
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .time
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:51] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .network
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:52] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .internet
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:55] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .os
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:57] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .find
[10-Jul-2006 10:04:59] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .connection
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:03] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .route
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:04] <maigaur> this is working
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:07] <maigaur> but not this
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[10-Jul-2006 10:05:09] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:11] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:13] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:15] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:34] <maigaur> also
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .get
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> SNMPv2-MIB::snmpInGetResponses.0 = Counter32: 0
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost .processor
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:35] <maigaur> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrProcessorFrwID.768 = OID: SNMPv2-SMI::zeroDotZero
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:46] <maigaur> i think this is my problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:52] <maigaur> localhost is the suse box
[10-Jul-2006 10:05:57] <maigaur> dsi13
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:00] <maigaur> windows server
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:05] <maigaur> you see it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:19] <maigaur> don"t know if it comes from snmp-informant
[10-Jul-2006 10:06:20] <maigaur> or npt
[10-Jul-2006 10:07:21] <ecn> try this:
[10-Jul-2006 10:07:41] <ecn> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrMemorySize.0
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[10-Jul-2006 10:10:22] <maigaur> HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrMemorySize.0 = INTEGER: 522228 KBytes
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:29] <ecn> great
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:43] <ecn> that means your snmp-informat is working
[10-Jul-2006 10:10:49] <maigaur> :)
[10-Jul-2006 10:11:16] <ecn> try to delete and add the device in zenoss
[10-Jul-2006 10:11:33] <ecn> (Manage tab to delete)
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[10-Jul-2006 10:25:33] <creiht> ecn: How much do you know about the ping monitoring?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:26:01] <ecn> I did the last re-write
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:15] <creiht> I'm runing .20 and I got some alerts last night, that some devices were down
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:25] <creiht> When I look at the events, there is just one ping event
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:34] <ecn> count = 1?
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:37] <creiht> And I can ping the devices now fine from the server
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:38] <creiht> yes
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:44] <ecn> ya... known problem
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:54] <creiht> I moved one of them to the history, and it is fine
[10-Jul-2006 10:27:54] <creiht> ahhh
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:35] <creiht> Is there a known fix? :)
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:41] <ecn> yep
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:46] <ecn> it's in the latest
[10-Jul-2006 10:28:55] <ecn> let me find the patch for you
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:16] <creiht> oh cool...l I just noticed that .21 was released
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:19] <creiht> is the fix in there?
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:26] <ecn> yep
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:43] <ecn> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/1801
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:47] <creiht> ok I plan on looking at that today
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:48] <creiht> cool
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:59] <creiht> I want to migrate to that as soon as possible anyway
[10-Jul-2006 10:29:59] <adytum-bot> Title: [1801] - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:17] <ecn> stupid 'bot
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:37] <ecn> this release has process monitoring
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:50] <ecn> so you can track cpu & memory for individual processes
[10-Jul-2006 10:30:56] <creiht> Yes... I'm very excited about this release :)
[10-Jul-2006 10:31:04] <ecn> tell all your friends
[10-Jul-2006 10:32:07] <creiht> hehe
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[10-Jul-2006 10:38:09] <maigaur> ecn
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:15] <maigaur> i have deleted
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:20] <maigaur> how can i add it
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:22] <maigaur> fastly
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:26] <ecn> Add Device
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:28] <ecn> on the left
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:32] <ecn> of the main page
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:42] <ecn> give it the IP addr of the machine as it's name
[10-Jul-2006 10:38:47] <ecn> it will discover it's real name
[10-Jul-2006 10:40:54] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:40:55] <maigaur> i made
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:00] <maigaur> collect configuration
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:12] <maigaur> and put it back to /devices/servers/windows
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:20] <maigaur> do i have to restart
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:22] <maigaur> zenperf
[10-Jul-2006 10:41:46] <ecn> no, but it doesn't hurt... but first, run "collect configuration" again now that you've moved it to /Servers/Windows
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:22] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler loading collector plugins from:/usr/local/zenoss/Products/DataCollector/plugins
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 WARNING zen.ZenModeler no cmd plugins found for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler snmp collection device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:47] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:41:55 INFO zen.ZenModeler plugins: zenoss.snmp.HRFileSystemMap, zenoss.snmp.InterfaceMap, zenoss.snmp.HRSWInstalledMap, zenoss.snmp.DellDeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DeviceMap, zenoss.snmp.DellCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.DellPCIMap, zenoss.snmp.RouteMap, zenoss.snmp.HPCPUMap, zenoss.snmp.InformantHardDiskMap, zenoss.snmp.IpServiceMap, zenoss.snmp.HPDeviceMap
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:50] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.SnmpClient snmp client finished collection for DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:51] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources storage device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:54] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing interfaces for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:56] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['172.29.1.85/24']' on object Intel_R_ PRO_100 M Network Connection - Packet Scheduler Miniport
[10-Jul-2006 10:42:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap calling function 'setIpAddresses' with '['127.0.0.1/8']' on object MS TCP Loopback interface
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:01] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing host resources software for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:04] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing system info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:05] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell cpu for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:10] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing dell pci cards for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:12] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing routes for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:14] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing hp cpu info for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:16] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing informant hard disks for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:18] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap processing Ip Services for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:20] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.ApplyDataMap changes applied
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:22] <maigaur> 2006-07-10 10:42:01 INFO zen.Device collected snmp information for device DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:24] <maigaur> i have also
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:26] <maigaur> seen that for dell computers
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:28] <maigaur> there are special files
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:31] <maigaur> that can be interesting
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:52] <maigaur> do you think my collect configuration is good ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:43:58] <ecn> looks good
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:04] <ecn> now restart zenperfsnmp
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:18] <maigaur> zenperfsnmp restart
[10-Jul-2006 10:44:20] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:45:16] <maigaur> i made it
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:01] <ecn> check out perf
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:05] <ecn> see if the graphs are there
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:14] <maigaur> nothing
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:17] <maigaur> it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:30] <maigaur> this doesn t work
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:37] <ecn> you see no graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:42] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:45] <maigaur> no graphs
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:46] <maigaur> :/
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:50] <ecn> or you see no labels for non-existent graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:46:56] <maigaur> i show you a screen capture
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:00] <ecn> great
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:01] <maigaur> if you want
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:08] <maigaur> give me a mail adress
[10-Jul-2006 10:47:13] <ecn> ecn at swcomplete dot com
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:12] <creiht> ecn: I'm also getting the following error in my zenperfsnmp.log:
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:13] <creiht> 2006-07-10 09:42:24 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: [Failure instance: Traceback: xmlrpclib.Fault, <Fault -1: "Unexpected Zope exception: Products.ZCTextIndex.ParseTree.ParseError - Token 'EOF' required, '(' found">
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:17] <creiht> ]
[10-Jul-2006 10:48:34] <creiht> Do you have any idea what would be causing that?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:49:26] <ecn> check your etc/zenperfsnmp.conf file for good username/password
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:18] <maigaur> mail sent
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:33] <creiht> ecn: That's fine... I'm still getting snmp performance data
[10-Jul-2006 10:50:49] <creiht> ecn: The ping issue had me looking at the logs
[10-Jul-2006 10:51:01] <creiht> And I noticed the message after each run
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:03] <ecn> do you see it once every config cycle, or only at shutdown?
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:07] <creiht> Right before I get this line:
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:07] <creiht> INFO zen.zenperfsnmp: collected 39 of 40 devices in 11.99
[10-Jul-2006 10:52:30] <creiht> Every cycle
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:17] <ecn> maigaur:
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:31] <ecn> ok... I noticed something very strange about the screen capture you sent
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:50] <ecn> your device is under "/Devices/server/windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:53:57] <ecn> on my computer they are under:
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:06] <ecn> "/Devices/Server/Windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <ecn> see the difference in capitalization?
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:16] <maigaur> do you think
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:22] <maigaur> it is case sensitive ?
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:32] <ecn> that's the thing:
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:43] <ecn> you should not have a "/server/windows"
[10-Jul-2006 10:54:59] <ecn> You should have the built-in "/Servers/Windows" only
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:22] <ecn> if I was you, I would drop your whole config and re-install
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:25] <ecn> this is very strange
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:42] <ecn> bonus: there's a new release!
[10-Jul-2006 10:55:57] <maigaur> now on /Devices /Servers /Windows /DSI13
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:06] <ecn> ok
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:08] <maigaur> no graphs :/
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:15] <ecn> do you see graphs?
[10-Jul-2006 10:56:46] <ecn> what do you seen in log/zenperfsnmp.log ?
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[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064173992.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806418F020.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A8A5B.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641900FE.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806416C683.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 10:59:59] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641BAA29.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:01] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641A662D.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:03] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device dsi18.chrobinson.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:04] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064112385.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:07] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT0080641BE323.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:08] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806414286F.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:11] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806411BDB5.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:13] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT00806418903D.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:15] <maigaur> 2006-07-09 04:02:46 WARNING zen.zenperfsnmp: snmp agent down on device WBT008064186F42.chreurope.com
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:19] <maigaur> but it is not
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:21] <maigaur> on my device you know
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:23] <maigaur> dsi13 is mine
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:50] <ecn> I don't know
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:54] <ecn> what the problem can be
[10-Jul-2006 11:00:55] <maigaur> i sent you a second screen capture by the way
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[10-Jul-2006 11:01:33] <maigaur> :(
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:36] <maigaur> it is strange
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:44] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .memory
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .cpu
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .temp
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:45] <maigaur> snmpwalk -v 1 -c public DSI13 .traffic
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:47] <ecn> ok...
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:49] <maigaur> not working :/
[10-Jul-2006 11:01:54] <ecn> something is wrong with your config
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:01] <ecn> because it is not trying to show you performance data
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:08] <ecn> for Server/Windows
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:37] <maigaur> :(
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:43] <ecn> That is, it is presently not configured to collect performance data for anything in the class "Server/Windows"
[10-Jul-2006 11:02:55] <ecn> somehow you have lost that built-in configuration
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:02] <maigaur> maybe
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:08] <maigaur> i don t know
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:13] <maigaur> how i have done that
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:25] <ecn> perhaps it never loaded properly on install?
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:51] <maigaur> when I installed zenoss you mean ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:03:54] <ecn> yes
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:04] <maigaur> how can i see that
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:10] <maigaur> you know
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:14] <maigaur> i have vmware server
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:19] <ecn> zenbuild.log may have errors in it
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:47] <maigaur> and vmare client running on a suse box
[10-Jul-2006 11:04:59] <maigaur> after
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:01] <maigaur> i launch
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:03] <maigaur> zenoss iage
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:05] <maigaur> image
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:11] <maigaur> and then
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:23] <maigaur> zenodisc --run netwoek
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:25] <ecn> oh, right
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:30] <ecn> you are running the VM iage
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:31] <ecn> image
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:35] <maigaur> yep
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:36] <ecn> you didn't install it
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:40] <maigaur> no
[10-Jul-2006 11:05:54] <ecn> oh, well, then there's a new VMWare image
[10-Jul-2006 11:06:45] <maigaur> ah yes ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:07:22] <maigaur> can you tell me where to download it please ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:07:59] <ecn> <a href="http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-vmware-0.21.0.zip">http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zenoss/zenoss-vmware-0.21.0.zip</a>
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:33] <maigaur> oki
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:38] <maigaur> do you think
[10-Jul-2006 11:08:47] <maigaur> that may solve my problem ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:13] <ecn> I hope so
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:30] <ecn> it will be a better place to start
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:38] <ecn> for me to fix it from here 8-)
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:51] <maigaur> ok
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:54] <maigaur> i believe you
[10-Jul-2006 11:09:56] <maigaur> :p
[10-Jul-2006 11:10:50] <maigaur> but you think
[10-Jul-2006 11:10:55] <maigaur> my windows server is working ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:02] <maigaur> why isn"t it collecting
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:03] <maigaur> perf
[10-Jul-2006 11:11:05] <maigaur> :(
[10-Jul-2006 11:12:52] <ecn> somehow you have lost the configuration at the level /Server/Windows that tells it what OIDs to collect and how to graph them
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:17] <maigaur> how is it possibl
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:19] <maigaur> e
[10-Jul-2006 11:14:28] <maigaur> how is the website built ?
[10-Jul-2006 11:25:40] <ecn> I don't know how it could have happend
[10-Jul-2006 11:26:01] <ecn> it was not that way in the original VMWare image
[10-Jul-2006 11:27:02] <ecn> (I'm checking that right now)
[10-Jul-2006 11:31:30] <ecn> nope, it's all good in the original image
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[10-Jul-2006 11:54:41] <creiht> edahl: So I'm trying out the new process monitoring
[10-Jul-2006 11:55:18] <creiht> If I add the process in Processes, should it automatically detect the process running on any devices that I have, or do I need to do something else?
[10-Jul-2006 11:55:55] <edahl> you need to run a model pass on the device to be monitored
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:03] <creiht> ok
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:08] <edahl> regex of process must match target
[10-Jul-2006 11:56:58] <creiht> hey that is pretty cool
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:15] <creiht> I just did something very simple for my first test
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:15] <creiht> httpd
[10-Jul-2006 11:57:53] <creiht> wow that looks very cool
[10-Jul-2006 11:59:51] <creiht> ok now for SNMP traps
[10-Jul-2006 12:00:11] <creiht> Do I need to send ZenOSS a test trap first?
[10-Jul-2006 12:04:35] <ecn> yes, that's the easiest way
[10-Jul-2006 12:10:09] <creiht> cool... I'll have to try that later
[10-Jul-2006 12:18:03] <creiht> ecn or edahl: So for the process monitoring, if I am monitoring something like httpd which will be multiple processes, is the memory and cpu usage the total across all the processes, or is it something else?
[10-Jul-2006 12:26:58] <ecn> it's something else
[10-Jul-2006 12:27:11] <ecn> you have a choice: monitor a single process' cpu & mem
[10-Jul-2006 12:27:19] <ecn> or monitor the count of processes
[10-Jul-2006 12:29:39] <creiht> oh
[10-Jul-2006 12:30:13] <creiht> What if I want to see how much memory and cpu all the processes are using? :)
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[10-Jul-2006 12:36:08] <ecn> ya, I know
[10-Jul-2006 12:36:47] <ecn> SNMP publishes the cpu/memory for each process
[10-Jul-2006 12:36:50] <ecn> which is good
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:04] <ecn> so we dynamically detect the processes
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:16] <ecn> and then set up RRD files for the process, by name
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:29] <ecn> we would have to track the stats by process ID
[10-Jul-2006 12:37:33] <ecn> and those are dynamic
[10-Jul-2006 12:38:02] <ecn> we can't get a total value for all the devices to store just that
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[10-Jul-2006 12:53:09] <creiht> hmm
[10-Jul-2006 12:57:37] <creiht> That is a bit of a difficult problem to solve
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[10-Jul-2006 16:40:27] <creiht> edahl: General question... Given the following hypothetical situation:
[10-Jul-2006 16:40:58] <creiht> 1. I were to use zenoss to discover a network that included several routers and switches and servers
[10-Jul-2006 16:42:31] <creiht> If a router goes down, would Zenoss be smart enough to alert me that the router is down, and not spam me with all the devices that are down behind it?
[10-Jul-2006 16:42:58] <edahl> yes it should
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:14] <edahl> assuming that your net layout is sane
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:14] <creiht> hmmm
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:17] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:20] <edahl> :)
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:24] <creiht> It should be mostly sane :)
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:40] <edahl> some people put all routers on one vlan
[10-Jul-2006 16:43:45] <creiht> hehe
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:00] <edahl> I think this messes us up... I haven't done extensive testing with this setup
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:10] <creiht> I don't think we do that
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:22] <edahl> can you test?
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:39] <creiht> I dunno... I have someone here poking me for some information
[10-Jul-2006 16:44:55] <creiht> Let me figure out where they are going :)
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:40] <creiht> I think we have networks set up where there are two routers (1 primary and 1 secondary) per vlan
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:42] <edahl> cool
[10-Jul-2006 16:45:45] <creiht> For the most part
[10-Jul-2006 16:47:38] <creiht> edahl: And for a totally off the wall question... What do you guys use for IP space management?
[10-Jul-2006 16:48:10] <edahl> hum what do you mean?
[10-Jul-2006 16:48:28] <edahl> we can ping sweep a net and list the free ips etc
[10-Jul-2006 16:49:31] <creiht> Well I'm talking more about managing IP blocks allocated from ARIN, sending justification reports to ARIN, managing which IP's get assigned to which devices, etc.
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:11] <edahl> we should be able to do that
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:27] <edahl> need to jump to a meeting maybe we should setup another phone conversation?
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:32] <edahl> I'm pretty free tomorrow
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:44] <creiht> hehe... well... I wasn't expecting it to be in the ZenOSS domain... was wondering what you have used personall for that type of thing
[10-Jul-2006 16:50:59] <edahl> ok
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:05] <edahl> well I think we can do it
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:08] <edahl> :)
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:28] <creiht> For example Cisco makes this:
[10-Jul-2006 16:51:56] <creiht> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/netmgtsw/ps1982/products_data_sheet0900aecd803f1ae8.html
[10-Jul-2006 16:52:04] <edahl> cool I will take a look
[10-Jul-2006 16:52:10] <edahl> let's talk more tomorrow
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[11-Jul-2006 08:58:51] <jaclu> Helo I have been trying out zenoss for some time. Now I am looking into more of the features and am a bit surprised, the Software/Hardware tabs dont have any "add" option, and for neither I cant find any docs except for in Admin Guide 6.8.3,6.8.4 and they dont say anything on how to use this feature
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[11-Jul-2006 09:09:21] <jaclu> is there any gui to enter soft/hard-ware entries, or must it be done directly in zope?
[11-Jul-2006 09:10:21] <edahl> zope is the GUI
[11-Jul-2006 09:11:55] <jaclu> Yes I now ;) What I ment was if there was any place in the zenoss pages, adding stuff directly in the zope manage gui isnt very apropriate for non techies
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[11-Jul-2006 09:13:23] <jaclu> Of course I guess I could hack a few forms for this, but it surprises me that this isnt already in there somewhere, somebody has after all taken the time to add the hard/soft-ware feature
[11-Jul-2006 09:14:13] <edahl> wait maybe I misunderstood there is a GUI that we make different from ZMI there is no need to see that
[11-Jul-2006 09:14:53] <edahl> http://yourbox:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/addDevice
[11-Jul-2006 09:15:07] <zaf> jaclu, it's in the add device page
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[11-Jul-2006 09:16:34] <jaclu> Yes an