IRC December 2007

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[01-Dec-2007 00:10:15] <rchrch> Can anyone help me with __of__()? Where is this defined for RRDDataSource?
[01-Dec-2007 00:10:34] <rchrch> I have tracked it down as far as RelationshipManager but I get lost in the inheritance hierarchy past that point.
[01-Dec-2007 00:15:26] <rchrch> Is there a general inheritance diagram for the Zenoss classes?
[01-Dec-2007 00:27:49] <rchrch> Hmm, thought I'd tracked it down to PropertySheets.py but guess not
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[01-Dec-2007 04:50:50] <murphys_law> so i challenge anyone to tell me they've compiled 2.1.1 themselves and got it to work
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[01-Dec-2007 14:24:11] <Bulwinkle> murphys_law: define compiled
[01-Dec-2007 15:29:41] <murphys_law> bullwinkle: well as in "tar xzf zenoss-2.1.1-0.tar.gz; cd zenoss-2.1.1; ./install; cd /usr/local/zenoss; bin/zenoss start"
[01-Dec-2007 15:30:34] <murphys_law> with a few answers needed when running ./install of course
[01-Dec-2007 15:38:16] <murphys_law> it does compile, but python errors importing snmp when starting zenmodeler and one other of the binaries
[01-Dec-2007 15:38:29] <murphys_law> error is consistent across platforms
[01-Dec-2007 16:35:43] <Bulwinkle> murphys_law: I'm running fine on openSUSE 10.2
[01-Dec-2007 17:01:17] <murphys_law> bulwinkle: self-compiled 2.1.1 with no alterations?
[01-Dec-2007 17:04:39] <murphys_law> i'll download opensuse 10.2 and give it a try. thanks!
[01-Dec-2007 17:12:35] <Bulwinkle> murphys_law: have a look in the forums... I put up a HOWTO
[01-Dec-2007 20:33:22] <dan__t> I tried rebuilding the SRPM the other day, didn't go over too well.
[01-Dec-2007 20:33:36] <dan__t> ZENOSS_HOME is not respected from the spec, into the subsequent build and configuration.
[01-Dec-2007 20:34:29] <dan__t> Gotta run some errands, I'll bbl and elaborate.
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[02-Dec-2007 18:54:06] <nated> Does anyone know how to monitor a Cisco VPN concentrator? I'd like it to know about the lan-to-lan tunnels we have for dependancy resolution
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[02-Dec-2007 23:56:18] <darkhorse> I know zenping builds a "network tree" to determing what devices depend on each other... And say i have zenoss -> router a -> router b -> server x
[02-Dec-2007 23:56:55] <darkhorse> if the link between router a and router b goes down then it doesnt report that server x is down (which is good) however it does alert me to all the services on server x being down
[02-Dec-2007 23:57:19] <darkhorse> is this how it was intended or is there a way to make thoes supressed until the link between routers is resolved
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[03-Dec-2007 03:49:52] <dishwasher> hello everybody
[03-Dec-2007 04:03:13] <dishwasher> Southron: hi, you are developer or admin?
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[03-Dec-2007 14:13:30] <nated> anyone add a cisco vpn 3005 to zenoss?
[03-Dec-2007 14:13:51] <nated> I'm trying out zenoss core and it seems to not see the interfaces
[03-Dec-2007 14:14:36] <Bulwinkle> nated: I've gotten it to work in a previous life
[03-Dec-2007 14:15:58] <nated> anything special required?
[03-Dec-2007 14:16:22] <nated> the docs say it presents standard MIB-II, but...
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[03-Dec-2007 15:25:37] <nated> here's a dumb question... Is there an easy way to graph ping time for a device? Maybe even have an alert threshold?
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[03-Dec-2007 18:43:33] <fiXXXerMet> Does anyone know where I can find a .mib file for a Dell PowerEdge 860?
[03-Dec-2007 18:48:14] <PerlStalker> fiXXXerMet: Dell's website?
[03-Dec-2007 18:57:42] adelhier is now known as Gamekiller
[03-Dec-2007 18:57:57] <Gamekiller> good morning Zenoss people
[03-Dec-2007 18:58:18] <Gamekiller> i installing 2.1.1 via the tar ball and i am getting an error at the end of the ./install.sh
[03-Dec-2007 18:58:29] <Gamekiller> error 2 pywmi - installer
[03-Dec-2007 18:58:35] <Gamekiller> any help to get around this
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[03-Dec-2007 19:00:28] <Gamekiller> o wait it is swig
[03-Dec-2007 19:16:36] <rchrch> Has anyone ever seen an error like: "AttributeError: 'OtmUrlDataSource' object has no attribute '__of__'
[03-Dec-2007 19:16:36] <rchrch> " in ZenHub.log?
[03-Dec-2007 19:17:02] <rchrch> Full stacktrace is here: http://rchrch.pastebin.com/m2e5ec39e and source to the datasource FWIW is here: http://rchrch.pastebin.com/d6ef361b3
[03-Dec-2007 19:17:10] <adytum-bot> Title: rchrch private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at rchrch.pastebin.com)
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[03-Dec-2007 19:20:42] <rchrch> I can't quite track down where the __of__() method is defined in the RRDDataSource inheritance tree
[03-Dec-2007 19:35:06] <tuxero> hi!. how are you ?
[03-Dec-2007 19:35:41] <tuxero> any body wake up ?
[03-Dec-2007 19:37:37] <tuxero> i have a question about the Throughput graph in a cisco router
[03-Dec-2007 19:39:49] <tuxero> Mrtg graphic of correct values for example 30 meg traffic in
[03-Dec-2007 19:40:05] <tuxero> and 20 traffic out but zenoss it deforms incorrect chart
[03-Dec-2007 19:40:22] <tuxero> showing graphic equivalent 3 mb OUT IN 2 mb
[03-Dec-2007 19:40:59] <tuxero> the Threshold max value is here.speed*100 / 8 * .75
[03-Dec-2007 19:41:07] <tuxero> here.speed / 8 * .75
[03-Dec-2007 19:41:31] <tuxero> how i can put the correct values ??
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[03-Dec-2007 20:57:16] <rchrch> I figured out that __of__() method problem I've been having for a few days
[03-Dec-2007 20:57:57] <rchrch> It wasn't in the datasource at all... the code is fine. I can install the Zenpack and it will work, just as long as I delete the zenbuh.zec and zeo.zec files from /opt/zenoss/var/ ....
[03-Dec-2007 20:58:15] <rchrch> Anyone know what those zec files are and why they might cause that problem with __of__()?
[03-Dec-2007 21:19:50] <davetoo> The .zec files are zope cache files
[03-Dec-2007 21:50:40] <bts3685> planning on upgrading from 1.1.2 to 2.0.x (not 2.1.x). anyone know of any bugs or issues or things to worry about during the upgrade?
[03-Dec-2007 22:07:18] <rchrch> Are class definitions cached in the zope cache?
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[04-Dec-2007 12:14:14] <shibby_laptop> 2.0
[04-Dec-2007 14:11:22] <klinstifen> greetings all
[04-Dec-2007 14:11:38] <klinstifen> i have a custom command that isn't being picked up by zencommand
[04-Dec-2007 14:11:46] <klinstifen> if i run zencommand -run -d mydevice -v10
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:02] <klinstifen> it is shown "shcedule has 1 commands" and everything looks to run fine
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:14] <klinstifen> but if i go to the zencommand daemon it doesn't show up
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:31] <klinstifen> how does a custom command get registered with zencommand?
[04-Dec-2007 14:12:39] <klinstifen> with the zencommand scheduler
[04-Dec-2007 14:38:30] <klinstifen> anyone know why a custom command wouldn't be added to the zencommand scheduler?
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[04-Dec-2007 15:37:00] <jamesc> trying to get my locations to show up in the Google portlet. All have addresses associated with them and have worked in the past, but for reason(s) unknown suddenly disappeared and haven't been seen on the portal in some time.
[04-Dec-2007 15:40:06] <klinstifen> did you delete the geocache?
[04-Dec-2007 15:40:40] <klinstifen> jamesc, i think if you delete the geocache it will recreate it and get rid of any corruption
[04-Dec-2007 15:48:18] <mot> question
[04-Dec-2007 15:48:24] <mot> i've got snmpd/snmptrapd running on a host system
[04-Dec-2007 15:48:32] <mot> but zenoos is saying that the snmpd agent is down on that system - any ideas?
[04-Dec-2007 15:51:39] <klinstifen> perhaps the zSnmpCommunity is not properly set in the zProperties?
[04-Dec-2007 15:51:48] <klinstifen> so it can't communicate with the host
[04-Dec-2007 15:52:02] <klinstifen> or the zSnmpVer isn't right
[04-Dec-2007 15:52:19] <mot> where do i go to check both of those?
[04-Dec-2007 15:54:18] <jamesc> I can never remember how to clear the geocache
[04-Dec-2007 15:54:45] <jamesc> ah, don't bother - finally found it
[04-Dec-2007 15:54:50] <klinstifen> mot, go to your device/host
[04-Dec-2007 15:55:02] <klinstifen> click the down arrow - more - zproperties
[04-Dec-2007 15:55:33] <mot> thanks
[04-Dec-2007 15:56:13] <klinstifen> jamesc, mine is located at http://zenoss-server/zport/dmd/Devices/manage
[04-Dec-2007 15:56:18] <klinstifen> then click on the properties tab
[04-Dec-2007 15:56:33] <klinstifen> and find the geocache text box, delete what's in there and click Save Changes
[04-Dec-2007 15:57:20] <mot> what do i want to change my zCommunity to?
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:08] <klinstifen> whatever you specified on the host
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:12] <klinstifen> what os is your host?
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:31] <klinstifen> public is the industry default community name
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:34] <klinstifen> you could try that
[04-Dec-2007 15:58:44] <klinstifen> but you need to specify it on the host as well
[04-Dec-2007 15:59:43] <mot> os is linux
[04-Dec-2007 15:59:51] <mot> where would that be on the host, snmpd.conf?
[04-Dec-2007 16:00:11] <jamesc> seems OK now, thanks
[04-Dec-2007 16:00:45] <klinstifen> jamesc, welcome
[04-Dec-2007 16:00:48] <klinstifen> mot, yeah
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:06] <mot> damnit
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:10] <mot> the community is right
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:18] <mot> i still can't run a snmpwalk on the system remotely though
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:23] <mot> i hate this shit. snmpd is the biggest piece of shit ever.
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:53] <klinstifen> : ) dude, i totally feel your pain
[04-Dec-2007 16:01:58] <klinstifen> took me a while to get it working
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:25] <mot> i don't know what else to change
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:33] <mot> there's very little docs on what everything means and how to configure it
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:33] <klinstifen> i think you may need a line like this in your config
[04-Dec-2007 16:02:51] <klinstifen> errr do you have a line like this: com2sec local localhost public
[04-Dec-2007 16:03:18] <mot> com2sec paranoid default public
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:14] <jamesc> klistifen: sorted - found out that google maps didn't like one of my locations addresses.
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:24] <klinstifen> comment that line out (put a # at the beginning)
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:35] <jamesc> bit annoying that this seems to break maps for all the other locations.
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:36] <klinstifen> jamesc, ah ok cool
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:43] <klinstifen> mot, then change it to:
[04-Dec-2007 16:04:50] <klinstifen> com2sec local localhost public
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:00] <klinstifen> with tabs, not spaces in between each word
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:20] <mot> is whitespace important?
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:21] <klinstifen> and also add
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:38] <dball> mot,klinstifen: have you tried using the snmpconf utility to setup snmp on linux using a console menu?
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:42] <klinstifen> com2sec localNet <your zenoss server ip> public
[04-Dec-2007 16:05:56] <mot> dball: no because i don't know what half of the stuff means
[04-Dec-2007 16:06:00] <klinstifen> dball, i suggested that to him yesterday
[04-Dec-2007 16:06:22] <dball> if you just want basic snmp, setup with communities, location name, and contact name, there's only 2 menus you need to use.
[04-Dec-2007 16:06:35] <mot> which are?
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:04] <dball> mot: the access control seutp, and system information agent. want me to walk you through it?
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:06] <klinstifen> mot, i think one of those links explained those two menus as well
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:13] <klinstifen> yeah those..
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:15] <mot> hang on let me fire it up
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:18] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:20] <dball> oh,
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:27] <klinstifen> nice
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:30] <dball> when you run it. you need to use a flag so thatit copies to the right location.
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:36] <dball> i think it's -o..but lemme check.
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:49] <mot> -i
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:51] <dball> yep
[04-Dec-2007 16:07:56] <dball> just found it.
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:04] <dball> ok. lemme know when you're ready.
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:18] <mot> my config is in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:22] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:34] <mot> alright i'm ready
[04-Dec-2007 16:08:45] <dball> ok. go to option 1 (access control setup)
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:01] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:13] <dball> then select option 3 to create a snmpv2c read-only comm.
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:22] <mot> okay
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:29] <dball> type the name of the community, and press enter.
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:41] <mot> does it matter what name?
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:43] <mot> can i just do "public" ?
[04-Dec-2007 16:09:58] <dball> if you're worried about security, i wouldn't use public.
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:04] <dball> you can make up any name you want. just remember it. :P
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:36] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:42] <mot> hostname is the ip of my zenoss host yea?
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:43] <dball> after you type in the community name and press enter, just press enter through the next two questions it asks.
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:49] <mot> ah
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:51] <dball> it'll return you to the access control menu. lemme know when you're there.
[04-Dec-2007 16:10:58] <mot> there
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:00] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:09] <dball> type 'f' to return to the main menu.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:37] <dball> then go to option 5 to setup the location and contact info.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:39] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:47] <dball> type 1 to set the location.
[04-Dec-2007 16:11:58] <dball> just type in whatever location name you want,a nd press enter.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:10] <dball> then type 2 to set the contact, and then type the contact name and press enter.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:17] <mot> alright, and i tossed in my email for the contact info
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:20] <mot> what about sysServices?
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:22] <dball> type 'f' to return to the main menu again.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:31] <mot> okay
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:32] <dball> don't worry about it. not needed to just get snmp working.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:46] <dball> that's about all the basic info needed. press f again.
[04-Dec-2007 16:12:50] <dball> then q to quit.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:04] <dball> i normally overwrite my existing snmpd.conf file, but you do as you need.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:08] <mot> hmm
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:13] <mot> hang on, i ran snmpconf -i
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:19] <dball> yeah.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:24] <mot> and it wrote to /usr/share/snmp
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:28] <dball> yeah.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:30] <dball> that's fine too.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:32] <mot> but i have config files in /etc/snmp/
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:39] <dball> yeah. i have config files in BOTH.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:49] <dball> but i think it uses the /usr/share/snmp one by default. i might be wrong on that.
[04-Dec-2007 16:13:59] <dball> now, all you need to do is restart snmp
[04-Dec-2007 16:14:18] <mot> should i just delete the one in /etc/snmp/ and symlink the one from /usr/share that i just created?
[04-Dec-2007 16:14:26] <dball> i don't think you need to.
[04-Dec-2007 16:14:42] <dball> i would just leave it in /usr/share/snmp and restart snmpd and test it.
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:05] <mot> hmmm
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:16] <mot> if i do /etc/init./snmpd start like normal
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:27] <mot> it just says: Starting network management services:.
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:31] <dball> yeah. if it's already started, do "restart" instead of "start"
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:36] <mot> then `px -aus |grep snmpd` yields nothing..
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:41] <dball> hmm..
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:52] <dball> sorry.
[04-Dec-2007 16:15:58] <dball> you need to do sudo /etc/init.d/snmpd
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:04] <dball> forgot to put the sudo
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:07] <mot> im already root.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:09] <dball> oh.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:11] <dball> hmm.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:12] <mot> =\
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:17] <dball> what's /var/log/messages say?
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:31] <mot> nothing relevant
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:45] <dball> is it already started?
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:50] <dball> wait.
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:55] <mot> it won't start
[04-Dec-2007 16:16:58] <dball> you already checked that. :P
[04-Dec-2007 16:17:04] <mot> it was at least starting before i reconfigured.
[04-Dec-2007 16:17:19] <dball> what distro are you using?
[04-Dec-2007 16:17:52] <mot> got it
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:03] <mot> snmpd looks for snmpd.conf in /etc/snmp/
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:06] <mot> (debian etch)
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:13] <mot> i just copied it over from /usr/share and it started
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:14] <dball> gotcha.
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:19] <dball> i'm on SuSE.
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:20] <mot> snmp 3089 1.4 0.7 8000 3916 ? S 07:24 0:00 /usr/sbin/snmpd -Lsd -Lf /dev/null -u snmp -I -smux -p /var/run/snmpd.pid 127.0.0.1
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:49] <dball> cool.
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:49] <mot> gah, snmpwalk still won't work =\
[04-Dec-2007 16:18:54] <dball> ARG.
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:09] <dball> yo did copy the right one over right? :P
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:13] <mot> yea
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:16] <dball> ok.
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:25] <mot> on hang on
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:26] <dball> are you walking it on he local machine, or on another machine?
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:32] <mot> i need to change my zCommunity yes?
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:38] <dball> yeah.
[04-Dec-2007 16:19:49] <dball> the zsnmpcommunity to whatever you set the snmpd community to.
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:34] <mot> grr
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:39] <dball> nothing still?
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:47] <dball> do you have a firewall on that debian box?
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:50] <dball> is snmp allowed?
[04-Dec-2007 16:21:57] <mot> nope, they're both virtual hosts on the same host
[04-Dec-2007 16:22:11] <mot> snmpwalk won't worked from zenoss, still, though
[04-Dec-2007 16:22:58] <dball> i dont' know how, but do ou know how to do an snmpwalk on that box to see if a) snmp isn't working or b) it won't work from zenoss remotely.
[04-Dec-2007 16:23:18] <mot> i just a snmpwalk on the box locally and it works
[04-Dec-2007 16:23:22] <mot> it just won't work from zenoss
[04-Dec-2007 16:23:59] <dball> hmmm...
[04-Dec-2007 16:25:11] <mot> =\
[04-Dec-2007 16:26:26] <dball> is it outputting anything to logs now?
[04-Dec-2007 16:26:33] <mot> nadda
[04-Dec-2007 16:27:14] <dball> well...this sucks.
[04-Dec-2007 16:27:56] <mot> yea
[04-Dec-2007 16:27:58] <dball> ok. so if it works locally, then snmpd is working...
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:03] <mot> right
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:14] <dball> and you have no firewall on that debian vm...
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:20] <mot> nope
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:30] <dball> is the zenperfsnmp service working on zenoss?
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:35] <mot> ?
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:37] <dball> i'm actually having a problem with that one myself.
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:49] <dball> zenperfsnmp is the service that handles snmp queries from zenoss.
[04-Dec-2007 16:28:53] <dball> (I think)
[04-Dec-2007 16:29:08] <mot> where's it located?
[04-Dec-2007 16:29:17] <dball> in zenoss, under settings, daemons, yu can see if zenperfsnmp is running, and view it's logs.
[04-Dec-2007 16:32:26] <mot> mkay
[04-Dec-2007 16:33:42] <mot> 2007-12-04 17:11:15 ERROR zen.zenperfsnmp: Failed to collect on 35.9.11.205 (twisted.python.failure.Failure: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.TimeoutError: User timeout caused connection failure.
[04-Dec-2007 16:33:42] <mot> ])
[04-Dec-2007 16:33:47] <mot> does that make any sense to you?
[04-Dec-2007 16:56:51] <Gamekiller77> ok i must be missing something here as i am not sure how enter in my network subnets for auto detect
[04-Dec-2007 16:56:57] <Gamekiller77> is there is a setting for this
[04-Dec-2007 16:58:13] <Gamekiller77> or am i missing something for Zendes to work
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:04] <Gamekiller77> ok am i in the wrong room for community support
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:14] <klinstifen> nah right room
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:17] <klinstifen> but its quiet
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:24] <klinstifen> ...a lot
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:41] <klinstifen> so you want to do network autodetect?
[04-Dec-2007 17:21:48] <Gamekiller77> ok i have a new install of zenoss what eles do i need to do to make sure i have a good install
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:00] <klinstifen> have you tried to add a device?
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:06] <Gamekiller77> well not really i know the subnets i want to enter them in so the can detect on them
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:10] <Gamekiller77> yah did not work
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:20] <Gamekiller77> where do i put the IP what field
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:30] <klinstifen> to add a device or a network?
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:42] <Gamekiller77> both
[04-Dec-2007 17:22:47] <klinstifen> to add a device
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:00] <Gamekiller77> sorry an ip to the device
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:00] <klinstifen> click add device at bottom left
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:21] <klinstifen> then in the Device Name enter the ip or hostname
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:26] <Gamekiller77> yah i tried that but i was not clear where the IP of the device should go
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:28] <Gamekiller77> ooo ok
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:30] <Gamekiller77> go it
[04-Dec-2007 17:23:57] <klinstifen> if snmp is enabled on the device then leave discovery protocol set to snmp otherwise set it to none
[04-Dec-2007 17:24:10] <Gamekiller77> and the add a subnet for auto detect is easy i hope
[04-Dec-2007 17:24:18] <Gamekiller77> ok
[04-Dec-2007 17:25:00] <Gamekiller77> let see if i can add my router
[04-Dec-2007 17:26:35] <Gamekiller77> ok i got my core switch/router to go
[04-Dec-2007 17:27:10] <klinstifen> cool
[04-Dec-2007 17:27:42] <Gamekiller77> now how do i get it to detect the rest of my snmp devices
[04-Dec-2007 17:27:50] <Gamekiller77> auto detect
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:24] <klinstifen> you would go to Networks on the left hand side
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:32] <klinstifen> then click the drop down for the correct subnetwork
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:36] <klinstifen> and select auto-detect
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:53] <klinstifen> but that will detect everything not just snmp
[04-Dec-2007 17:28:56] <Gamekiller77> see i did not see any subnets
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:11] <klinstifen> what do you see in networks
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:29] <Gamekiller77> now i do
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:31] <Gamekiller77> lol
[04-Dec-2007 17:29:33] <Gamekiller77> cool
[04-Dec-2007 17:30:12] <Gamekiller77> and i am off
[04-Dec-2007 17:30:22] <Gamekiller77> thank you so much
[04-Dec-2007 17:30:55] <klinstifen> welcome
[04-Dec-2007 17:31:11] <klinstifen> i got a q about custom commands
[04-Dec-2007 17:31:22] <klinstifen> anyone available for some q and a?
[04-Dec-2007 17:32:08] <Gamekiller77> i would not mind watching that chat i want to learn as much as i can about this
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:18] <klinstifen> well my command runs successfully from everywhere except by zencommand on a regular basis
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:31] <Gamekiller77> that is odd
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:35] <klinstifen> if i test from my command line everything is great
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:37] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 17:34:54] <Gamekiller77> logged in as the zenoss user
[04-Dec-2007 17:35:04] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:17] <Gamekiller77> so it dose not run under zenoss?
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:36] <klinstifen> well it doesn't run as a part of the scheduler...least that's how it looks
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:51] <Gamekiller77> you checked the PID
[04-Dec-2007 17:36:57] <klinstifen> i let it sit there for about an hour and nothing happened
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:08] <Gamekiller77> odd
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:10] <klinstifen> then i run zencommand run -d mydevice -v10 and poof it worked
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:31] <Gamekiller77> i have not worked with the scheduler yet
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:34] <klinstifen> how would i check the PID?
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:51] <Gamekiller77> well zencommand status
[04-Dec-2007 17:37:58] <Gamekiller77> see what it running as
[04-Dec-2007 17:38:31] <klinstifen> ok got that
[04-Dec-2007 17:38:54] <klinstifen> it's running as zenoss
[04-Dec-2007 17:41:28] <Gamekiller77> then what dose it run in the scheduler
[04-Dec-2007 17:41:49] <Gamekiller77> i am new but the status thing i got familar
[04-Dec-2007 17:43:13] <klinstifen> i'm pretty sure it runs the same thing
[04-Dec-2007 17:43:26] <klinstifen> but the file doesn't update
[04-Dec-2007 17:43:30] <klinstifen> unless i do it manually
[04-Dec-2007 17:45:13] <Gamekiller77> yah that odd
[04-Dec-2007 17:51:14] <Gamekiller77> now is there any big problem with the snmp windows app
[04-Dec-2007 17:51:18] <Gamekiller77> for got what it is called
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:00] <klinstifen> like security concerns?
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:04] <klinstifen> snmp informant
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:06] <klinstifen> is the name
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:10] <Gamekiller77> yes
[04-Dec-2007 17:53:17] <Gamekiller77> security is my concern
[04-Dec-2007 17:55:21] <dball> mot: sorry i was away. that's the same problem i'm having. I have no idea what it means. I was told i need to update pynetsnmp, but i don't have subversion installed, and i'm having problem with it.
[04-Dec-2007 17:57:41] <klinstifen> dball, i am having trouble with a custom command i've implemented in one of templates...are you familiar with custom commands?
[04-Dec-2007 17:58:09] <dball> klinstifen: no, sorry. I haven't started working on that yet.
[04-Dec-2007 17:59:53] <Gamekiller77> what soe the snmp informent offer
[04-Dec-2007 17:59:56] <Gamekiller77> dose*
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:10] <klinstifen> access to device information on a windows box
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:20] <klinstifen> hardware information
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:23] <Gamekiller77> oo ok
[04-Dec-2007 18:01:37] <Gamekiller77> so above the normal snmp stuff windows would send
[04-Dec-2007 18:02:14] <Gamekiller77> i may run that on a couple of servers
[04-Dec-2007 18:04:22] <Gamekiller77> ok this is so going to help me map my network out
[04-Dec-2007 18:04:32] <Gamekiller77> i have missing wifi access points
[04-Dec-2007 18:25:31] <synic> I've put a custom command to check the status of a software raid device in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf .. I can see the results of the command via snmpwalk, how do I see it from zenoss?
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[04-Dec-2007 18:26:51] <klinstifen> create a datasource that has the proper OID
[04-Dec-2007 18:27:01] <klinstifen> the one you see when you snmpwalk
[04-Dec-2007 18:27:06] <synic> ok
[04-Dec-2007 18:28:29] <synic> like .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8 ?
[04-Dec-2007 18:29:17] <klinstifen> yeah but you might want to drop the leading period and add a .0 to the end
[04-Dec-2007 18:30:55] <klinstifen> then add a datapoint
[04-Dec-2007 18:30:59] <klinstifen> and then create a graph
[04-Dec-2007 18:31:10] <klinstifen> attach that template to your device and away you go
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[04-Dec-2007 19:18:19] <nws> hola
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:07] <synic> klinstifen: ok, I'm having quite the time trying to figure out where to add this datasource and associate it with one of my servers
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:16] <klinstifen> ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:21] <klinstifen> no prob
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:22] <klinstifen> click on your device
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:33] <klinstifen> then click the drop down arrow and go to more - templates
[04-Dec-2007 19:23:50] <synic> k
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:36] <klinstifen> click the drop down next to Performance...
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:39] <klinstifen> and select Add
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:53] <klinstifen> put in a name
[04-Dec-2007 19:24:57] <klinstifen> then click ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:25:01] <klinstifen> then click the name that you typed
[04-Dec-2007 19:25:59] <synic> ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:02] <synic> I see
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:26] <klinstifen> cool
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:45] <synic> now, why did I need to drop the leading . and add a .0 on the end of the OID?
[04-Dec-2007 19:26:54] <klinstifen> if you were to apply this template to many devices then you would create it on a higher level
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:01] <klinstifen> like /devices/servers/windows
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:04] <klinstifen> or something like that
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:15] <synic> I see
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:18] <klinstifen> because that's the way Zenoss likes it
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:27] <klinstifen> especially the .0
[04-Dec-2007 19:27:52] <klinstifen> i'm not sure about the leading period but i know that if you omit the .0 then sometimes it won't give you the right info
[04-Dec-2007 19:29:08] <synic> hrmm, do I need to do anything with the "datapoint" info?
[04-Dec-2007 19:30:19] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 19:30:43] <klinstifen> add a datapoint
[04-Dec-2007 19:30:52] <klinstifen> what are you collecting?
[04-Dec-2007 19:31:26] <synic> software raid status information
[04-Dec-2007 19:32:59] <klinstifen> ok well the datapoint name would be something that makes sense
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:08] <klinstifen> if you were getting read/write info
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:27] <klinstifen> the datasource name could be hdd_reads
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:34] <klinstifen> and the datapoint name would be count
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:37] <klinstifen> or something like that
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:52] <klinstifen> but typically you can just make the datapoint name the same as the datasourcename
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:56] <synic> ok
[04-Dec-2007 19:33:59] <klinstifen> and thats what you'll want to do
[04-Dec-2007 19:34:04] <klinstifen> since you are collecting via snmp
[04-Dec-2007 19:53:37] <nws> does anyone have an idea what might happen if i install an rpm for RHEL5 on to a Debian system?
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[04-Dec-2007 19:58:35] <nws> it would be better to create an rpm from the debian source tarball, correct?
[04-Dec-2007 20:03:50] <lorth> hello anyone in here for zenoss questions?
[04-Dec-2007 20:04:52] <lorth> hello?
[04-Dec-2007 20:06:14] <klinstifen> yeah
[04-Dec-2007 20:06:32] <lorth> hi i am having a issue here
[04-Dec-2007 20:07:42] <klinstifen> k
[04-Dec-2007 20:08:07] <nws> hahah
[04-Dec-2007 20:08:47] <klinstifen> ...
[04-Dec-2007 20:08:50] <klinstifen> what's the issue?
[04-Dec-2007 20:09:02] <lorth> I uploaded the dell open manage mibs, and want to pull open manage performance stats. How do i add these to existing performance template so i can see some graphs for cooling fans - power etc...
[04-Dec-2007 20:10:43] <klinstifen> you have to manually confgirue performance templates based on the OIDs
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:00] <lorth> ok can you walk me through a quick test please?
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:05] <klinstifen> but I think there is a Dell zenpack that might work too
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:18] <nws> lol
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:29] <lorth> well i downloaded the 2950 zenpack but have had no luck with it
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:37] <nws> "i can't be bothered to read the docs, please have someone do my job for me"
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:43] <lorth> not at all
[04-Dec-2007 20:11:50] <lorth> i have read the docs
[04-Dec-2007 20:12:30] <nws> yea...
[04-Dec-2007 20:17:46] <klinstifen> lorth, do you have an OID for the fan you want to monitor?
[04-Dec-2007 20:18:24] <lorth> well i have a 2950 and i assumed the ones from the zenpack were prob the ones to use.
[04-Dec-2007 20:18:48] <lorth> i have tried binding that template with my default but no luck
[04-Dec-2007 20:19:15] <lorth> it shows up binded but no performance graphs coming up
[04-Dec-2007 20:21:56] <klinstifen> is snmp enabled on the device?
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:04] <lorth> yes of course
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:13] <lorth> it works for the standard template
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:21] <klinstifen> can you snmpwalk the device?
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:22] <lorth> i want to add 2 graphs
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:29] <lorth> to performance tab
[04-Dec-2007 20:22:35] <lorth> yes
[04-Dec-2007 20:24:25] <klinstifen> can you do a snmpget on the oid you are interested in?
[04-Dec-2007 20:24:50] <lorth> never tried an snmpget
[04-Dec-2007 20:24:55] <lorth> i do have a mibbrowser tho
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:06] <lorth> and pointed that at the server
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:16] <lorth> i know my question is a bit broad
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:20] <lorth> sorry about that
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:23] <nws> lorth: are you running windows?
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:26] <lorth> yes
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:35] <lorth> zenoss 2.11
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:44] <lorth> on ubuntu 7.04
[04-Dec-2007 20:25:51] <klinstifen> from the console on your zenoss server
[04-Dec-2007 20:26:06] <lorth> im there
[04-Dec-2007 20:26:37] <klinstifen> do snmpget -v<version -c<communityname> <server> <oid>
[04-Dec-2007 20:26:52] <lorth> ok
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:05] <lorth> so if it is able to get that it should work?
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:12] <lorth> maybe my oids are wrong?
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:58] <nws> lorth: how about you take one step at a time and follow klinstifen's instructions
[04-Dec-2007 20:27:58] <klinstifen> yes and seems logical to me
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:05] <nws> since the docs didn't help
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:36] <lorth> nws why dont you be nice karma gonna get ya buddy
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:47] <lorth> jk ;)
[04-Dec-2007 20:28:53] <nws> i am being nice
[04-Dec-2007 20:29:10] <klinstifen> did the snmpget work?
[04-Dec-2007 20:30:17] <lorth> trying now
[04-Dec-2007 20:38:48] <lorth> snmpget -v 2c -c publicomm 172.19.7.8 1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.700.12.1.6.1.1
[04-Dec-2007 20:38:54] <lorth> is that right syntax?
[04-Dec-2007 20:47:07] <lorth> hey thanks
[04-Dec-2007 20:47:15] <lorth> thats got me in right direction
[04-Dec-2007 20:58:03] <lorth> hey i got it added to the graph
[04-Dec-2007 20:58:07] <lorth> another question guys
[04-Dec-2007 20:58:11] <lorth> you all around?
[04-Dec-2007 21:03:04] <klinstifen> i am back
[04-Dec-2007 21:03:07] <klinstifen> nice to see it's working
[04-Dec-2007 21:50:27] <lorth> hello anyone in here?
[04-Dec-2007 21:55:50] <lorth> yooooo
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[05-Dec-2007 00:15:16] <mrhinkle> Hey I'm mark the Zenoss community dude, I am in need of a favor, and would be very grateful for anyone that is willing to help me out (in other words I have some good Zenoss swag to trade)
[05-Dec-2007 00:15:48] <mrhinkle> I am looking for a couple of people monitoring that are using Zenoss Core who are monitoring 100+ devices
[05-Dec-2007 00:16:11] <monrad> mrhinkle: what do you need?
[05-Dec-2007 00:17:34] <mrhinkle> I am looking for some people who are willing to be a reference for Zenoss Core to a couple of bankers
[05-Dec-2007 00:18:15] <mrhinkle> monrad, just why you like it and why its useful to you
[05-Dec-2007 00:19:30] <monrad> we are monitoring 1433 devices right now, i guess thats 100+ :)
[05-Dec-2007 00:19:47] <monrad> just a sec just got a call on my duty cellphone
[05-Dec-2007 00:22:16] <mrhinkle> no worries, monrad
[05-Dec-2007 00:26:16] <mrhinkle> Monrad, Just email mrhinkle@zenoss.com with your contact information (email/phone) description of how you are using it (what types of things are you monitoring, what kind of organization you are using Zenoss Core in) plus shirt sizes and mailing address so I can send you some swag
[05-Dec-2007 00:27:22] <mrhinkle> The same offer goes for anyone else that's lurking and wakes up later
[05-Dec-2007 00:27:47] <monrad> mrhinkle: no need for swag, i am all the way on the other side of the pond but send you something anyway :)
[05-Dec-2007 00:28:27] <mrhinkle> thanks monrad I really appreciate it
[05-Dec-2007 00:33:37] <monrad> np reminded me that i should write a nice mail to sales@zenoss.com anyway :)
[05-Dec-2007 00:37:06] <monrad> too late :)
[05-Dec-2007 01:44:34] <rchrch> Any suggestions for fixing: "2007-12-04T17:28:31 INFO ZODB.Conflict database conflict error (oid 0x2d, class Products.ZenUtils.PObjectCache.PObjectCache) at /zport/RenderServer/render (4 conflicts, of which 0 were unresolved, since startup at Tue Dec 4 17:23:54 2007)"
[05-Dec-2007 01:44:44] <rchrch> Prevents all graphs from rendering.
[05-Dec-2007 01:45:11] <rchrch> I restarted, removed the cache file, even tried removing the RenderServer.pyc file
[05-Dec-2007 02:03:34] <nated> anyone have tips on seeing why zenoss is ignoring a bunch of MIBs from a cisco VPN?
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[07-Dec-2007 21:01:13] <agelwarg> does anyone know if zenoss will support MYISAM as storage engine for mysql ?
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[07-Dec-2007 21:49:41] <MoreDakka> If snmpmonitor ignore == true then zenmodeler shouldn't even be looking at those devices anymore, right?
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[10-Dec-2007 01:27:05] <davetoo> bah.
[10-Dec-2007 01:34:10] <davetoo> net-snmp is ... finicky
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[10-Dec-2007 15:04:17] <MoreDakka> If snmpmonitor ignore == true then zenmodeler shouldn't even be looking at those devices anymore, right?
[10-Dec-2007 17:02:15] <nelcab> hi to all
[10-Dec-2007 17:02:53] <nelcab> does any1 has tried Zenoss on a fresh Fedora 6 installation.
[10-Dec-2007 17:03:10] <nelcab> I'm having problems... try to search on the forums...
[10-Dec-2007 17:09:59] <nelcab> i'm starting the first-boot initialization....but it stays forever on the part that is "Loading Zenoss Objects into the Zeo Database" ... MySQL root passwd is in blank so it should not have problems with that at least
[10-Dec-2007 17:10:16] <nelcab> I don't know if any of you have the same problem or something alike
[10-Dec-2007 17:16:30] <aaahhh> hi
[10-Dec-2007 17:16:58] <nelcab> hi
[10-Dec-2007 17:19:57] <aaahhh> zope fails to start when i upgraded to centos 5.1
[10-Dec-2007 17:20:21] <aaahhh> raise ValueError("corrupted record, oid")
[10-Dec-2007 17:21:57] <aaahhh> http://pastebin.com/d2e9ecbb6
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[10-Dec-2007 17:31:37] <aaahhh> nvm figured it out
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[10-Dec-2007 18:56:45] <MoreDakka> If snmpmonitor ignore == true then zenmodeler shouldn't even be looking at those devices anymore, right?
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[10-Dec-2007 19:38:41] <Gamekiller> is there any good tut pages on snmpd setup files
[10-Dec-2007 19:51:08] <Gamekiller> ok
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[10-Dec-2007 20:18:54] <DesertWanderer> Greetings all.
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[10-Dec-2007 20:34:46] <eurowerke> hello Desert
[10-Dec-2007 20:37:49] <Gamekiller> ok not sure why but i can not get snmp on my linux servers to talk to zenoss got windows to do it fine
[10-Dec-2007 20:51:07] <klinstifen> Game, did you configure snmpd?
[10-Dec-2007 20:53:58] <klinstifen> snmpd is probably not configured to allow remote hosts to read snmp info
[10-Dec-2007 20:56:19] <exkev> is there a way to map ifIndex from an snmp linkDown trap to the actual interface, instead of classifying the component as the index number?
[10-Dec-2007 20:56:28] <exkev> non-cisco, doesn't provide ifDescr
[10-Dec-2007 21:01:43] <klinstifen> dunno, myself...but that looks interesting
[10-Dec-2007 21:01:50] <klinstifen> post it to the forums if you figure it out, will ya?
[10-Dec-2007 21:12:00] <exkev> k
[10-Dec-2007 21:12:25] <exkev> the zeo db has the info, just need to probably write a patch to use4 it
[10-Dec-2007 21:20:54] <exkev> evt.component = getattr(evt, 'ifIndex', 0)
[10-Dec-2007 21:21:04] <exkev> evt.component = getattr(evt ,'ifDescr', evt.component)
[10-Dec-2007 21:21:12] <exkev> ^seems as if that should already handle the lookup
[10-Dec-2007 21:21:45] <exkev> erm, no it's looking in the event itself for ifDescr
[10-Dec-2007 21:34:19] <Gamekiller> ok if i getting some traps that are unkown what is the best way to find the trap true maining
[10-Dec-2007 21:37:40] <exkev> read the mib
[10-Dec-2007 21:37:44] <exkev> google the oid
[10-Dec-2007 22:14:41] <Balo1> hey all
[10-Dec-2007 22:14:56] <Balo1> can somebody help with running a nagios command over ssh?
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[10-Dec-2007 22:22:29] <Balo1> ?
[10-Dec-2007 22:23:27] <PerlStalker> How does one go about fixing a KeyError?
[10-Dec-2007 22:32:07] <Gamekiller> exkev yah i found the cisco traps OIDs thanks
[10-Dec-2007 22:32:22] <Gamekiller> now to get my linux machines added to zenoss
[10-Dec-2007 22:37:15] <exkev> I slerped v1.tar.gz from ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/v1 (or something like that) and imported most of em
[10-Dec-2007 22:37:46] <exkev> that's a total waste to add them all, but I have a lot of varying gear (various cisco, nortel, asa/pix, whatnot)
[10-Dec-2007 22:38:29] <exkev> also I may have a solution for mapping ifIndex -> component when ifDescr is not in the trap
[10-Dec-2007 22:38:50] <exkev> 16 line transform script, will test
[10-Dec-2007 22:41:24] <exkev> Error transforming EventClassInst snmp_linkDown (name 'find' is not defined)
[10-Dec-2007 22:41:25] <exkev> AGH
[10-Dec-2007 23:10:38] <Balo1> anybody around?
[10-Dec-2007 23:18:16] <exkev> I figured it out
[10-Dec-2007 23:19:17] <exkev> 11 lines of transform now
[10-Dec-2007 23:19:20] <exkev> will post to forum
[10-Dec-2007 23:19:33] <exkev> where'd be the best place to drop that?
[10-Dec-2007 23:59:02] <exkev> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14184
[11-Dec-2007 00:00:10] <Gamekiller> ok got one for those out there is any other way of adding some other icons to the Network Map part of zenoss so like linux and cisco and printers have icon to match there device locatoin
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[11-Dec-2007 00:21:46] <Gamekiller> hmm
[11-Dec-2007 00:22:08] <Gamekiller> my internet is spose to be down but i am still in the irc room must be very flacky
[11-Dec-2007 01:03:28] <balo2> hey all, is there anyway to get Zenoss to do SNMP & SSH monitoring on the same host?
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[11-Dec-2007 17:00:20] <eurowerke> annoying...
[11-Dec-2007 17:00:50] <MoreDakka> sorry
[11-Dec-2007 17:01:26] <eurowerke> I have a few websites set up to check that internet access is working... so I set up yahoo.com and google.com as devices with a timeout of 1 minute, and alert status of critical. I get messages every here and there that say "socket timeout after 10 seconds"... i didn't set it for 10 seconds!
[11-Dec-2007 17:04:12] <eurowerke> and these dang messages for everything that say "threshold of 75% exceeded.." I don't even have those thresholds enabled on those devices
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[11-Dec-2007 19:36:58] <DesertWanderer> I'm trying to figure out how to disable the /Status/Wmi/Conn Event. It's causing a rather annoying ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT. I do not have WMI enabled for SNMP, nor do I wish to write anything to the device I am monitoring.
[11-Dec-2007 19:37:10] <DesertWanderer> Any suggestions?
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[12-Dec-2007 03:13:26] <chowmeined> Because you need to provide a valid password for WMI
[12-Dec-2007 03:13:30] <chowmeined> username/password
[12-Dec-2007 03:13:49] <chowmeined> WMI isnt really related to SNMP
[12-Dec-2007 03:13:55] <chowmeined> they sort of do similar things
[12-Dec-2007 03:14:40] <chowmeined> if you want it disabled make sure you disable both WMI monitoring and Windows Event Log (not syslog)
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[12-Dec-2007 08:28:59] <rosscav> greetings helpful community... I'm new to zenoss and have just setup the server, but I want to restrict global access, so the webpage can only be seen from one IP address. This is probably something really easy, but any assistance would be great for how to do this.
[12-Dec-2007 13:33:18] <RedShift> sup all
[12-Dec-2007 13:33:33] <RedShift> this is going to sound very stupid, but how do I let zenoss mail me when something goes down?
[12-Dec-2007 13:35:32] <RedShift> I see events and stuff but nothing about alerting
[12-Dec-2007 14:42:57] <Bulwinkle> anyone know where the 75% line of the graphs are drawn for network utilization?
[12-Dec-2007 14:59:42] <klinstifen> like how you get the line to draw or not draw?
[12-Dec-2007 15:00:01] <klinstifen> or how the value is calculated?
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:36] <MoreDakka_> RedShift, you still around?
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[12-Dec-2007 15:11:46] <RedShift> MoreDakka: hi
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:51] <RedShift> yes I found it
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:55] <RedShift> it was under preferences
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:56] <MoreDakka> Good good
[12-Dec-2007 15:11:59] <RedShift> for the user itself
[12-Dec-2007 15:12:09] <RedShift> I was searching like mad how to create an alert on a device
[12-Dec-2007 15:12:19] <MoreDakka> hehe ;-)
[12-Dec-2007 15:12:30] <MoreDakka> Nope, alerts are on a per user basis
[12-Dec-2007 15:15:51] <RedShift> go figure :D
[12-Dec-2007 15:22:22] <klinstifen> MoreDakka, you ever get your custom command to work?
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[12-Dec-2007 16:31:01] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: how it is calculated. I can see where it is drawn on the graph, I just want to change it to 90%
[12-Dec-2007 16:32:25] <klinstifen> go to /Devices/Templates/ethernetCsmacd
[12-Dec-2007 16:32:45] <klinstifen> click on the Utilization 75 perc threshold
[12-Dec-2007 16:32:59] <klinstifen> and change the max value from here.speed / 8 * .75
[12-Dec-2007 16:33:13] <klinstifen> to here.speed / 8 * .9
[12-Dec-2007 16:33:25] <klinstifen> i'd think that would do it
[12-Dec-2007 16:33:41] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: that sets the threshhold but does it change the graph too?
[12-Dec-2007 16:34:04] <klinstifen> what do you mean?
[12-Dec-2007 16:34:24] <klinstifen> do you want the existing 75% to be on the graph and then a 90% alert?
[12-Dec-2007 16:34:45] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: I want the line to match the threshhold
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:13] <klinstifen> the line is drawn because the threshold is a part of the graph definition
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:22] <klinstifen> so if you change the threshold then the line will change
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:25] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: then I don't need to worry about it :)
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:26] <Bulwinkle> thanks
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:28] <klinstifen> you should probably change the name too
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:34] <Bulwinkle> did that
[12-Dec-2007 16:35:35] <klinstifen> Utilization 90 perc
[12-Dec-2007 16:37:50] <klinstifen> cool
[12-Dec-2007 18:08:18] <telexicon> Where can I find info on adding information to device pages?
[12-Dec-2007 18:10:57] <klinstifen> what kind of info?
[12-Dec-2007 18:25:13] <telexicon> I have a zenpack that monitors some snmp values for RAID status.. I want to display the disk arrays under Hardware
[12-Dec-2007 18:25:17] <telexicon> and show their status
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[12-Dec-2007 19:33:15] <telexicon> What should I check when a graph won't show up? Most of my graphs work but some of them stay empty
[12-Dec-2007 19:33:31] <telexicon> As in the grid doesnt even show up, all I see is the arrows
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[12-Dec-2007 19:59:46] <Bulwinkle> telexicon: probably the wrong snmp oids
[12-Dec-2007 20:00:39] <telexicon> snmpwalk works though
[12-Dec-2007 20:01:05] <telexicon> maybe im not waiting long enough
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[12-Dec-2007 23:55:17] <johns55> why is it recommended that python 2.4.4 is installed instead of the newer 2.5.1?
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[13-Dec-2007 02:05:37] <johns55> anyone here?
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[13-Dec-2007 13:53:01] <Bulwinkle> anyone have an idea why some of my threshholds I changed (from 75% to 90%) still say threshhold of 75% exceeded and some of them report 90%?
[13-Dec-2007 13:53:16] <Bulwinkle> do I need to restart a service for it to figure things correctly
[13-Dec-2007 14:00:43] <Bulwinkle> how about why ZenOSS reports all of my T1 links as 1.0Mbps?
[13-Dec-2007 14:01:35] <monrad> Bulwinkle: they have made a fix for that, i think its in the next version
[13-Dec-2007 14:02:08] <Bulwinkle> monrad: thanks for the info.
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[13-Dec-2007 16:54:39] <Bulwinkle> anyone know about the graph DEF commands?
[13-Dec-2007 17:02:56] <Bulwinkle> it looks like if you leave the consolidation option blank in the graph point tab the graph options still appends a : to the end of the DEF line in the RRD graph commands
[13-Dec-2007 17:11:42] <Bulwinkle> anyone know how to clear the google map cache?
[13-Dec-2007 17:12:33] <MoreDakka> http://zenoss.domain.com:8080/zport/dmd/manage_propertiesForm
[13-Dec-2007 17:18:05] <iotaion9> i've got a question for the zenoss team; we are a web hosting company with ~130 servers and a handful of other devices like managed power, switches, PIX. we use bigbrother now but it's becoming overwhelming to separate the real issues from the day-to-day rollercoaster of server loads, etc with so many servers being polled. the one feature we do like about bigbrother is that it will accept huge amounts of text from the plugins we have written for it -- for
[13-Dec-2007 17:21:07] <iotaion9> i know that zenoss will work with nagios plugins, and nagios 3 api allows for multi-line text, just not sure if zenoss will handle the output from a nagios plugin if we were to write one that sent a big block of text back
[13-Dec-2007 17:34:18] <Bulwinkle> damn, now my zeoctl process isn't starting
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:15] <klinstifen> bulwinkle: i have odd probs like that too sometimes
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:22] <klinstifen> i think it may be my box and not zenoss tho
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:32] <klinstifen> all the daemons will fail
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:34] <Bulwinkle> I'm rebooting now.... (shouldn't have to but I am)
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:35] <klinstifen> and then i have to reboot
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:41] <klinstifen> starting/stoping doesn't bring them back
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:44] <klinstifen> and ssh dies too
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:47] <Bulwinkle> thats some BS IMHO
[13-Dec-2007 17:35:52] <klinstifen> so i think it is the box freezing or something
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:15] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: I think somehow my ZEO database got locked and
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:37] <Bulwinkle> all of the other processes started, just no zeoctl
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:47] <klinstifen> can you zeoctl start?
[13-Dec-2007 17:36:48] <Bulwinkle> I know it can't be my hardware
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:06] <Bulwinkle> klinstifen: nope. I just get . . . . . . . . . . . . .
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:43] <klinstifen> bummers
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:45] <klinstifen> that sucks
[13-Dec-2007 17:37:54] <klinstifen> is the process currently running
[13-Dec-2007 17:39:06] <Bulwinkle> nope... just rebooted and it started first try... (SHAKES FIST AT ZENOSS)
[13-Dec-2007 17:40:12] <klinstifen> lol
[13-Dec-2007 18:02:39] <johns55> hi all, im getting an error unable to create the initial Zenoss object database
[13-Dec-2007 18:02:43] <johns55> when trying to install
[13-Dec-2007 18:02:47] <johns55> anyone have a clue?
[13-Dec-2007 18:03:08] <johns55> the last line in zenbuild.log is ValueError: The permission <em>Change Settings</em> is invalid.
[13-Dec-2007 18:19:59] <klinstifen> johns55: maybe you set a password? zenoss expects the password to be blank
[13-Dec-2007 18:21:16] <johns55> password for what? this is a fresh install
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:21] <klinstifen> when you set up the mysql db
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:27] <klinstifen> did you set a password ?
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:36] <johns55> yes for root
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:44] <klinstifen> that password
[13-Dec-2007 18:22:45] <johns55> but i specified that during the install.sh
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:18] <klinstifen> hmm well i know people have reported problems
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:25] <klinstifen> when the password is set and not blank
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:33] <johns55> should i make the root pw empty?
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:51] <klinstifen> that's what i did
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:55] <johns55> hrm
[13-Dec-2007 18:23:58] <johns55> ok lemme give that a shot
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:12] <johns55> do you recommend that i install the latest tar from the site? or the latest SVN checkout?
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:24] <klinstifen> i did mine from source
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:43] <klinstifen> so i don't have experience with the other two
[13-Dec-2007 18:24:58] <johns55> yes source is the tar'ed file
[13-Dec-2007 18:25:57] <klinstifen> sry i read rpm when i read what you wrote
[13-Dec-2007 18:26:14] <klinstifen> so uhh....tar
[13-Dec-2007 18:28:44] <johns55> heh no worries
[13-Dec-2007 18:29:07] <johns55> did you install the latest 2.1.1?
[13-Dec-2007 18:29:11] <johns55> which distro?
[13-Dec-2007 18:35:24] <Bulwinkle> I'm on opensuse and it worked great
[13-Dec-2007 18:36:12] <johns55> hrm ok, im installing it with no zenoss pass, no root mysql pass, and no mysql zenoss user pass
[13-Dec-2007 18:36:16] <johns55> hopefully this will work
[13-Dec-2007 18:36:18] <johns55> i can set the pw later
[13-Dec-2007 18:38:35] <klinstifen> yeah 2.1.1 for debian
[13-Dec-2007 18:38:39] <klinstifen> err ubuntu
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:11] <klinstifen> johns55: i only meant change pass for mysql acct
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:15] <klinstifen> but heh this all works
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:22] <klinstifen> zenoss runs as zenoss user anyways
[13-Dec-2007 18:39:27] <klinstifen> so root pass wont' make a diff
[13-Dec-2007 18:46:12] <johns55> yes it works w/o passwords
[13-Dec-2007 18:46:20] <johns55> i wonder what could be the problem
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:21] <klinstifen> not sure
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:29] <klinstifen> but there's more than one post about it in the forum
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:38] <klinstifen> solution is always to make mysql zenoss pass blank
[13-Dec-2007 18:47:55] <johns55> o geez
[13-Dec-2007 18:48:07] <johns55> ok im gonna re-install and only have mysql root blank
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[13-Dec-2007 19:04:54] <klinstifen> k
[13-Dec-2007 19:13:23] <ke4qqq> hey guys - I have a really stupid user question - I have looked through the documentation, and don't see a good answer to this. I downloaded and installed one of the community zenpacks, and want to begin using it (it's the Dell PE 2950 zenpack) but what remains unclear to me is how one tells a device to begin grabbing that data. I have tried remodeling my devices, but that doesn't appear to...
[13-Dec-2007 19:13:25] <ke4qqq> ...change anything.
[13-Dec-2007 19:17:47] <davetoo> At least two things to consider:
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:11] <davetoo> First, you have to associate the new template(s) with that device somehow.
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:23] <davetoo> Did it create a new device group?
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:47] <ke4qqq> I don't think so - don't see a new device group when I look in devices
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:55] <davetoo> Second, you have to get zenoss to run the appropriate data collector when you remodel it.
[13-Dec-2007 19:18:55] <ke4qqq> and no I didn't assocaites the new template
[13-Dec-2007 19:19:12] <ke4qqq> right, I tried looking at collector plugins, but don't see anything different in the list
[13-Dec-2007 19:19:15] <davetoo> I don't know how zenpacks do new datacollector plugins, to be honest.
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:09] <davetoo> On the server there will be a new directory in $ZENHOME/Products,
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:12] <davetoo> with the name of the zenpack.
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:15] <klinstifen> i think you just need to associate the template with your device
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:22] <ke4qqq> k
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:26] <klinstifen> that's what i did with the apache zenpack
[13-Dec-2007 19:20:33] <klinstifen> just bind that new template to your device or class
[13-Dec-2007 19:21:38] <ke4qqq> ahh ok thanks! I think that will work.....do I need to remodel or will it just collect stuff on next snmp run?
[13-Dec-2007 19:21:58] <davetoo> you need to remodel
[13-Dec-2007 19:22:21] <davetoo> do DellCPUMap, DellDeviceMap, and DellPCIMap show up in your datacollector plugin list?
[13-Dec-2007 19:22:24] <jdiaz> hello, whenever anyone can, i'm in need of a bit of help :D
[13-Dec-2007 19:23:01] <ke4qqq> davetoo: yes
[13-Dec-2007 19:23:34] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: remodel won't hurt
[13-Dec-2007 19:24:53] <klinstifen> jdiaz: ?
[13-Dec-2007 19:25:32] <jdiaz> we are studying at the company moving fron nagios to zenoss, so far I have to say it goes with all we are looking for in a software =)
[13-Dec-2007 19:26:08] <jdiaz> however, due some weird policies here, snmp is currently not an option, thus we are using zenplugins through SSH
[13-Dec-2007 19:26:30] <jdiaz> modeling a new device, goes pretty well, finds mount points, route tables etc etc etc
[13-Dec-2007 19:27:12] <jdiaz> performance however gives and error, and actually no graphic is being shown anywhere, and zencommand has 0 scheduled things
[13-Dec-2007 19:27:39] <jdiaz> i have found in zenhub an error that ends with: KeyError: 'mount'
[13-Dec-2007 19:28:07] <jdiaz> reading forums and checking the templates for the device class, seems the zenplugin dies on the {here/mount}
[13-Dec-2007 19:28:18] <jdiaz> i have no idea why though, considering modeling the device works fine
[13-Dec-2007 19:28:43] <jdiaz> this is zenoss 2.1.1 on slackware
[13-Dec-2007 19:29:42] <jdiaz> the error on zenhub log shows up when i restart zencommand only
[13-Dec-2007 19:29:58] <jdiaz> this leaves us with o information on the OS tab for all devices, and no graphs at all =(
[13-Dec-2007 19:35:46] <klinstifen> i don't have any experience with the zenpluggins through ssh
[13-Dec-2007 19:35:58] <klinstifen> but the default graphs are based on snmp
[13-Dec-2007 19:36:05] <klinstifen> have you bound your pluggin to your device?
[13-Dec-2007 19:36:54] <jdiaz> i have, i know the defaults are on snmp, yet the default install comes with a series of templates in /devices/linux/cmd made for ssh using zenplugins
[13-Dec-2007 19:37:59] <klinstifen> sry man, i don't know
[13-Dec-2007 19:38:05] <jdiaz> it's ok
[13-Dec-2007 19:38:07] <klinstifen> i haven't added our nix boxes yet
[13-Dec-2007 19:38:10] <klinstifen> for monitoring
[13-Dec-2007 19:39:04] <johns55> it looks like majority of the zen packs are made for redhat EL, has anyone able to install it on fedora?
[13-Dec-2007 19:40:43] <kgoedtel> the zenoss team zenpacks have some issues
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:07] <kgoedtel> i totally modified the apache monitor because it was 50% useless
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:36] <kgoedtel> like requests and bytes were graphic the average for the current generation/uptime
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:41] <kgoedtel> graphing*
[13-Dec-2007 19:41:56] <kgoedtel> so basically. a flat line
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:02] <kgoedtel> useful!
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:08] <klinstifen> kgoedtel! you must share
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:15] <klinstifen> i think the same thing of the Apache monitor
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:18] <kgoedtel> im still working on it
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:24] <klinstifen> I installed it and was like, "oh..."
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:35] <klinstifen> are site gets some activity, but the graphs make it look like none
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:40] <kgoedtel> the last one that is a bit tricky is to get the bytes per request to work
[13-Dec-2007 19:42:48] <kgoedtel> since that has to be done by RRD using a CDEF
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:13] <kgoedtel> yah my graphs are already much much nicer
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:17] <johns55> do you guys recommend that I monitor my nix box using the zenplugin.py or just an SNMP agent?
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:24] <johns55> are there any security issues with SNMP?
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:26] <klinstifen> nice, yeah please share
[13-Dec-2007 19:43:47] <kgoedtel> also i modified sys-netapp because the way it was written was completely wrong
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:23] <klinstifen> kgoedtel: i uploaded a zenpack that monitored Exchange via SNMP but it was never posted on their zenpack page
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:30] <kgoedtel> :[
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:34] <kgoedtel> that sucks
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:37] <klinstifen> i'm guessing it's because they offer the same thing for Enterprise users and din't want to give it away
[13-Dec-2007 19:44:49] <kgoedtel> ahhh
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:04] <kgoedtel> well that is still annoying
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:07] <klinstifen> yeah
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:15] <klinstifen> how am i suppossed to get my free t-shirt?
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:18] <kgoedtel> haha
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:18] <klinstifen> jk
[13-Dec-2007 19:45:53] <kgoedtel> one thing i hate about zenpacks is upgrading them is a nightmare
[13-Dec-2007 19:46:22] <kgoedtel> if you add new datapoints i cant find a way to make them appear without restarting zenoss, then go into the template datasource and click save
[13-Dec-2007 19:46:51] <kgoedtel> gets old fast when testing changes often
[13-Dec-2007 19:46:53] <klinstifen> what kind of datasource is it?
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:26] <klinstifen> johns55: i used the apache monitor on ubuntu so it at least works on some diff nix flavors even if it is advertised as EL4/5
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:30] <kgoedtel> well this was when i was adding stuff to apache monitor and i created 2 counter dps, and they didnt appear until i did that
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:52] <kgoedtel> im pretty sure apache monitor should work on any distros
[13-Dec-2007 19:47:58] <klinstifen> jons55: snmp has security risk in that anyone who knows the community name can get info and if that community as write abilities they could change info
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:04] <kgoedtel> all it does is parse the server-status?auto page
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:08] <kgoedtel> and it is very very basic
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:32] <klinstifen> but that's just surface risks...i don't know about holes or flaws in snmp
[13-Dec-2007 19:48:40] <johns55> klinstifen: if I set my community name to soemthing really cryptic would that be okay? It seems like it is easier to run an SNMP agent than to go into each machine and install the zenplugin
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:05] <klinstifen> yeah kgoedtel i agree i looked long and hard at that zenpack and there is nothing to it...just py files and xml
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:12] <kgoedtel> makking the snmp community ro and changing it to something other than public is more than adequate in my opinion
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:35] <klinstifen> true
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:44] <kgoedtel> i wish i could make zenpacks in perl... i hate python
[13-Dec-2007 19:49:58] <kgoedtel> type casting stuff, im lazy
[13-Dec-2007 19:50:34] <kgoedtel> when changing apache monitor i forgot to typecast a value i multiplied by 1024... needless to say the string got very large O-o
[13-Dec-2007 19:50:57] <kgoedtel> now int() is my friend
[13-Dec-2007 19:52:40] <klinstifen> my zenpacks are in bash ; )
[13-Dec-2007 19:53:29] <kgoedtel> ohh that would be so painful
[13-Dec-2007 19:53:51] <kgoedtel> i wrote a clone script for xen in bash... i am totally regretting it
[13-Dec-2007 19:54:29] <klinstifen> painful? nah...wmic is my friend for getting Win info...and then i just echo back the results
[13-Dec-2007 19:54:33] <klinstifen> easy
[13-Dec-2007 19:55:09] <kgoedtel> we only have 1 official windows server here, so i havent even bothered with it
[13-Dec-2007 19:55:32] <kgoedtel> everything else is solaris 10 and centos 5
[13-Dec-2007 19:55:46] <klinstifen> ah
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:08] <kgoedtel> lots and lots of web servers
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:20] <klinstifen> is that your business? web hosting?
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:37] <kgoedtel> well indirectly maybe
[13-Dec-2007 19:56:54] <klinstifen> well then that's lots of stuff to graph for sure
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:06] <kgoedtel> we charge fees for use of a web app, we do our own hosting
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:14] <klinstifen> gotcha
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:42] <klinstifen> you know a way to get nic perf graphs to appear on the perf tab?
[13-Dec-2007 19:57:48] <klinstifen> be nice to see all graphs in one place
[13-Dec-2007 19:58:13] <kgoedtel> dunno
[13-Dec-2007 19:58:37] <kgoedtel> we used to use mrtg, but now i just use graph reports in zenoss
[13-Dec-2007 19:58:50] <klinstifen> yeah
[13-Dec-2007 19:59:03] <klinstifen> well time to go
[13-Dec-2007 19:59:14] <klinstifen> later good luck with the apache mods
[13-Dec-2007 20:01:23] <Bulwinkle> if you like MRTG you're going to LOVE cacti
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[13-Dec-2007 21:00:10] <johns55> hey guys, if i want to set up a device on zenoss to monitor itself, would i just add a device localhost?
[13-Dec-2007 21:06:41] <johns55> im actually getting a sendto error when doin this
[13-Dec-2007 22:30:18] <jsm> weird.. i'm trying to add a device, and zenoss is telling me that "Ip x.x.x.x exists on"
[13-Dec-2007 22:30:22] <jsm> and that's all
[13-Dec-2007 22:30:26] <jsm> doesn't say where it exists
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[13-Dec-2007 23:39:42] <ciggy_jr> Hi! I've just started to use zenoss and was wondering if it's possible to supress alerts in case of a network link flapping for example?
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[14-Dec-2007 01:32:34] <exkev> I'm having random issues rendering graphs on remote collectors (ala the howto)
[14-Dec-2007 01:32:42] <exkev> so I'm exploring zenrender. there's like 0 doc
[14-Dec-2007 01:33:01] <exkev> it seems to be a way to have the main server get values from the remotes
[14-Dec-2007 01:34:16] <exkev> if I did it like the howto, it didn't work at first (no image) then after some restarting and beating on it again the next day, magically started
[14-Dec-2007 01:34:52] <exkev> then I was collecting some counters as derive where rolls were causing huge negatives, so I nuked the related RRDs after redefining them as counter, and now those graphs won't draw
[14-Dec-2007 01:35:01] <exkev> (it is collecting, and the RRDs exist on the remotes)
[14-Dec-2007 01:35:16] <exkev> logs drop stuff about file not existing, they lie
[14-Dec-2007 01:36:17] <exkev> then I have some multigraph reports that I want to pull data from multiple remotes and agg them on one graph. that doesn't work if the render url points to those remote hosts, and corp security will have a cow if open the firewall into some of them
[14-Dec-2007 01:36:54] <exkev> so I chase zenrender. am I on the right track?
[14-Dec-2007 02:42:46] <madfactor> hey... ne1 here that can help?
[14-Dec-2007 03:59:12] <madfactor> ne1 here now?
[14-Dec-2007 04:06:44] <madfactor> this channel seems absolutely useless.
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[14-Dec-2007 05:24:31] <Snake-eyes> madfactor, whats your problem ?
[14-Dec-2007 14:40:55] <wam> Hi, anyone here? I'm installing zenoss with the instruction "install-on-ubuntu-7.04" on a linux-vserver. After I managed the nagios-plugins installation (which hang when pinging 127.0.0.1), the installer now hangs when importing initial zenoss objects into Zeo. It produces no load and zeo is bound to 0.0.0.0:8100. Can I interrupt this somehow and import the data later manually?
[14-Dec-2007 14:41:30] <wam> I could also upload my Data.fs which was created when I installed zenoss locally (which went great)
[14-Dec-2007 14:41:46] <wam> I'd just have to interrupt the process so that the installer continues ;)
[14-Dec-2007 14:44:07] <klinstifen> uhh I dunno...I ran the same install and it went without issue ; \
[14-Dec-2007 14:44:54] <wam> klinstifen: I just saw I don't have a /etc/hosts file which means I don't have the "localhost"... Maybe that'll fix it. I'll try.
[14-Dec-2007 14:45:11] <klinstifen> k
[14-Dec-2007 15:01:05] <wam> hah - works ;)
[14-Dec-2007 15:01:34] <ke4qqq> klinstifen: did you see my /msg?
[14-Dec-2007 15:01:47] <klinstifen> yeah i replied
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[14-Dec-2007 15:02:16] <ke4qqq> hmmm I must have dropped it, can you resend?
[14-Dec-2007 15:02:41] <klinstifen> yeppers
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:14] <klinstifen> did you get the one i just sent?
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:24] <ke4qqq> no....weird....
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:38] <ke4qqq> wonder if I reconnected to the server overnight and am not authed
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:45] <klinstifen> maybe my irc app
[14-Dec-2007 15:03:56] <ke4qqq> anything that can't be said in chan?
[14-Dec-2007 15:04:01] <klinstifen> totally : )
[14-Dec-2007 15:04:33] <klinstifen> i said, "Sure! Right now I am grabbing queue and message stats. Still working on it to make sure values aren't out of proportion...but Sure!"
[14-Dec-2007 15:06:51] <klinstifen> It works and looks pretty...anything in particular you are looking to gather info on?
[14-Dec-2007 15:09:00] <ke4qqq> queue, mainly, but at the same time, I need to really sit down and look and see what db perf options are out there
[14-Dec-2007 15:09:57] <ke4qqq> I'll gladly admit that I have tons of research that I need to do on what best to monitor.
[14-Dec-2007 15:11:46] <klinstifen> cool, well I am game to share...will help debug and tweak
[14-Dec-2007 15:11:57] <ke4qqq> great!
[14-Dec-2007 15:12:46] <klinstifen> how you want me to send it?
[14-Dec-2007 15:16:03] <ke4qqq> email or provide a link or??
[14-Dec-2007 15:20:09] <klinstifen> pm me your email addy
[14-Dec-2007 15:25:23] <klinstifen> nm i got it
[14-Dec-2007 15:25:40] <klinstifen> i'll send it later today
[14-Dec-2007 15:25:49] <klinstifen> early afternoon'ish
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:02] <ke4qqq> sorry, someone came in to my cube....
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:09] <ke4qqq> ok, davidn@keymarkinc.com just to confirm.
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:15] <wam> Hmm - I don't get the arrow top-right to open the menu. Other JS works... Any Ideas?
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:20] <ke4qqq> Thanks, I'll try and get it deployed today and start playing it.
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:24] <wam> s/top-right/top-left
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:31] <klinstifen> i got a diff one from zenoss formus?
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:38] <klinstifen> wam: what broswer/os?
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:52] <ke4qqq> david@gnsa.us
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:54] <wam> klinstifen: firefox/ubuntu. With a local install it works - just not on the server.
[14-Dec-2007 15:26:58] <ke4qqq> or david.nalley@fedoraproject.org
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:06] <ke4qqq> either will work
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:39] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: any of the three?
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:49] <ke4qqq> yep any of the three will work
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:53] <klinstifen> wam: what's the server os/browser?
[14-Dec-2007 15:27:58] <klinstifen> ke4qqq: k
[14-Dec-2007 15:28:05] <wam> klinstifen: server is ubuntu gutsy
[14-Dec-2007 15:28:36] <wam> klinstifen: the whole app works - only not this arrow.
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:03] <klinstifen> which arrow? do you mean top-left?
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:10] <wam> klinstifen: correct.
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:30] <wam> klinstifen: there are no 404s or so.
[14-Dec-2007 15:29:40] <klinstifen> what happens when you click it? or do you not see it?
[14-Dec-2007 15:30:08] <wam> I can't see it and when clicking where it should be, nothing happens.
[14-Dec-2007 15:30:32] <wam> klinstifen: the arrow above the menu works - so js seems to work.
[14-Dec-2007 15:30:33] <klinstifen> you try a diff browser?
[14-Dec-2007 15:31:30] <wam> klinstifen: galeon: same
[14-Dec-2007 15:31:52] <klinstifen> hmm
[14-Dec-2007 15:33:10] <klinstifen> wam: haven't heard or see this before
[14-Dec-2007 15:33:18] <klinstifen> *seen
[14-Dec-2007 15:35:58] <wam> klinstifen: does zenoss only work on localhost?
[14-Dec-2007 15:37:34] <klinstifen> what do you mean?
[14-Dec-2007 15:37:43] <klinstifen> the web interface?
[14-Dec-2007 15:38:47] <wam> klinstifen: no, the application
[14-Dec-2007 15:39:41] <klinstifen> i still don't understand your question
[14-Dec-2007 15:40:16] <wam> klinstifen: can't be - so forget it ;)
[14-Dec-2007 15:40:38] <wam> klinstifen: was wondering if I have to access the webinterface via "localhost" and not "myhost.com".
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:01] <klinstifen> you should be able to access it from anywhere
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:09] <klinstifen> in your network
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:22] <klinstifen> http://myhost.yourdomain:8080
[14-Dec-2007 15:41:29] <wam> klinstifen: yeah
[14-Dec-2007 15:42:32] <klinstifen> right
[14-Dec-2007 15:53:09] <wam> klinstifen: this must be something from my failed install-attempts. As menu_id is defined for each view, it has to be passed to the macros. So they seem not to be able to load the menu or something like that. I'll reinstall from scratch.
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:06] <exkev> klinstifen, tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:19] <exkev> it's bound to all, localhost:8080 should work
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:23] <exkev> unless you altered zope.conf
[14-Dec-2007 16:03:54] <exkev> <http-server>address 8080</http-server> is default
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:22] <klinstifen> exkev: yeah, i was explaining to wam that that address would get him to zenoss login screen form another pc
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:29] <exkev> erm, s/klinstifen/wam/
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:41] <exkev> 08:35 < wam> klinstifen: does zenoss only work on localhost?
[14-Dec-2007 16:04:43] <exkev> misread
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:00] <exkev> hey, since this channel has live bodies for once
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:05] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:05] <exkev> can anyone explain zenrender?
[14-Dec-2007 16:05:34] <exkev> I've got remote probes that don't reliably render graphs, lying about rrd not existing etc
[14-Dec-2007 16:06:15] <exkev> also need to make multigraphs from rrds that lie on multiple remotes
[14-Dec-2007 16:06:21] <exkev> is this what it's for?
[14-Dec-2007 16:07:20] <klinstifen> not sure about the first part, but isn't the multi-graph report what you need for your second question?
[14-Dec-2007 16:07:36] <exkev> it doesn't work when datasources are on disparate remotes
[14-Dec-2007 16:07:51] <exkev> I want to stack all bandwidth on various router ports, for example
[14-Dec-2007 16:08:09] <exkev> (I am using multi-graph)
[14-Dec-2007 16:08:41] <exkev> I might just have to go nfs mount a common perf directory
[14-Dec-2007 16:09:18] <klinstifen> that might work
[14-Dec-2007 16:10:00] <exkev> but we were recently pwned by an acquisition, and the overlords manage some firewalls now. I want to avoid dealing with the superfluous levels of stupid
[14-Dec-2007 16:10:42] <exkev> "nfs? random http ports? uh, I'll have to send that up to risk management for approval"
[14-Dec-2007 16:11:09] <exkev> the main thing I'm trying to avoid is any port open to the world, they'll drop a big no on that (e.g. remote renderserver)
[14-Dec-2007 16:13:15] <klinstifen> exkev: that sucks
[14-Dec-2007 16:14:15] <exkev> so any idea what zenrender actually is?
[14-Dec-2007 16:14:30] <exkev> the master has ports 8090/8091 open, remotes 8091 only
[14-Dec-2007 16:14:41] <exkev> supposed to take some sort of request for rrd values
[14-Dec-2007 16:15:13] <exkev> from RenderServer import RenderServer as OrigRenderServer
[14-Dec-2007 16:15:42] <exkev> ^imports renderserver, but throws 500 errs
[14-Dec-2007 16:16:35] <wam> Ok - I got an install error at the very last part: "ZentinelPortal loaded at zport \n unable to create the initial Zenoss object database".
[14-Dec-2007 16:16:55] <wam> But my Data.fs has about 2MB.
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:02] <klinstifen> wam: you probably specified a password for the mysql zenoss user
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:04] <klinstifen> don't do that
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:12] <wam> klinstifen: excuse me?
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:18] <wam> klinstifen: damn
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:32] <wam> klinstifen: ok - I'll try w/o - but I can't let this w/o password.
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:47] <exkev> uh
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:52] <exkev> that worked fine for me
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:54] <wam> klinstifen: should I use the default or a empty?
[14-Dec-2007 16:17:55] <exkev> many times
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:06] <exkev> as long as my root mysql creds were right
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:08] <klinstifen> wam: the forums are ripe with same msg...mysql zenoss user password should be blank during install or else you have to specify it (where i don't know)
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:16] <exkev> but object db != events mysql db
[14-Dec-2007 16:18:57] <wam> klinstifen: should I delete the db and the user from mysql before installing again?
[14-Dec-2007 16:19:46] <klinstifen> erm, i dunno. exkev?
[14-Dec-2007 16:19:58] <exkev> probably a good idea
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:07] <wam> done
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:09] <klinstifen> maybe just retry checking creds
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:21] <wam> trying with the default zenosspassword for mysql
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:22] <exkev> and rm -rf $ZENHOME
[14-Dec-2007 16:20:29] <wam> ok
[14-Dec-2007 16:21:04] <wam> can I later change the mysqlpassword for zenoss?
[14-Dec-2007 16:21:46] <klinstifen> i would think so you just need to update zenoss too with new pass
[14-Dec-2007 16:22:20] <exkev> /zport/dmd/ZenEventManager has sql creds in http form
[14-Dec-2007 16:22:53] <wam> exkev: cool
[14-Dec-2007 16:23:23] <wam> hmm - maybe I should simply upload my locally working instance.
[14-Dec-2007 16:23:36] <exkev> ya know, I tried copying /usr/local/zenoss, no love
[14-Dec-2007 16:23:43] <exkev> it seems to install deps outside its tree
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:09] <wam> exkev: I install it as user into the user's home - so it just can't install anything anywhere else than in its home.
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:27] <exkev> ah
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:46] <wam> same error
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:48] <wam> damn
[14-Dec-2007 16:25:49] <exkev> when it didn't work out for me, I re-ran the installer and it asked to preserve the db
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:09] <wam> yeah - even if I preserve it, it won't work.
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:13] <exkev> meh
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:43] <wam> ARGH
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:48] <wam> I stupid bastard
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:53] <wam> I should read LOGS!
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:57] <wam> Why are people writing them?
[14-Dec-2007 16:26:59] <exkev> ho ho
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:03] <wam> Yeah - so I can ignore them.
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:08] <wam> Damn
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:25] <wam> zope writes to /tmp, which happens to be a ramdisk with 16M in my installation. Nice.
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:33] <wam> "No space left on device"
[14-Dec-2007 16:27:53] <exkev> 16M of /tmp? you building this on a solid state box?
[14-Dec-2007 16:28:03] <wam> exkev: that's a default setting with linux-vserver.
[14-Dec-2007 16:28:09] <wam> exkev: I just forgot to remove it.
[14-Dec-2007 16:28:17] <exkev> hrm haven't used that
[14-Dec-2007 16:30:30] <klinstifen> least you fixed problem
[14-Dec-2007 16:31:41] <wam> I had 2 problems up to now which both weren't there on my local box: 1. There was no "localhost" entry in /etc/hosts and 2. Diskspace. The first one wasn't logged - I just found out by try/error. The second was actually logged, so the problem was between screen and chair.
[14-Dec-2007 16:33:24] <wam> But that's nothing compared to my nagios install yesterday.
[14-Dec-2007 16:35:36] <wam> DONE ;) Thanks guys ;)
[14-Dec-2007 16:37:28] <klinstifen> nice!
[14-Dec-2007 16:58:01] <klinstifen> exkev: have you imported any mibs for trap translation?
[14-Dec-2007 17:08:03] <exkev> yes, lots
[14-Dec-2007 17:08:15] <exkev> some errored, most imported fine
[14-Dec-2007 17:25:58] <klinstifen> exkev: when they translate do you still see the OID on the events page in the summary column?
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[14-Dec-2007 18:22:26] <kgoedtel> here is what my apache graphs look like now :]
[14-Dec-2007 18:22:27] <kgoedtel> http://the1goat.shackspace.com/apachefixed.jpg
[14-Dec-2007 18:23:08] <johns55> sweeet
[14-Dec-2007 18:23:20] <johns55> looks better than mrtg
[14-Dec-2007 18:23:45] <kgoedtel> i modified the apache monitor zenpack because it was graphing useless flat lines
[14-Dec-2007 18:27:54] <klinstifen> kgoedtel: that looks much better than the default!
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:13] <kgoedtel> oh thanks for your reply in forums i feel dump now! but at least it works
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:17] <kgoedtel> dumb*
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:34] <klinstifen> welcome, it's all good. it works that's what matters!
[14-Dec-2007 18:28:37] <klinstifen> looks very nice
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:18] <kgoedtel> i wish i had an example of an objects.xml that uses something other than ApacheMonitorDataSource
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:29] <kgoedtel> err
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:36] <kgoedtel> DataPointGraphPoint
[14-Dec-2007 18:29:57] <kgoedtel> im wondering if something like this is proper
[14-Dec-2007 18:30:01] <kgoedtel> <object id='bytesreq_gprint_last' module='Products.ZenModel.GprintGraphPoint' class='GprintGraphPoint'>
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:19] <johns55> kgoedtel, is this ready to be installed? if so, can you share?
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:21] <klinstifen> dunno
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:30] <kgoedtel> im very close i think
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:30] <klinstifen> was just gonna ask the same thing
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:37] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 18:31:40] <kgoedtel> right now mine is modified in my template
[14-Dec-2007 18:32:24] <kgoedtel> i will have to try to upgrade my zenpack with this new objects.xml to test it fully
[14-Dec-2007 18:32:53] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 18:36:55] <johns55> so i just finished install zenoss 2.1.1 and was wondering if I'm doin this snmpd.conf correctly
[14-Dec-2007 18:37:20] <johns55> i copied the snmpd.conf file from the zenoss install folder to the /etc/snmp/ folder in the server i want to monitor
[14-Dec-2007 18:37:46] <johns55> after that, i change public to a unique snmp community name
[14-Dec-2007 18:37:57] <johns55> so would this machine be ready to be monitored?
[14-Dec-2007 18:39:09] <kgoedtel> before testing it in zenoss i would suggest trying to to an snmpwalk from the machine running zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 18:39:34] <kgoedtel> if that works, it *should* work in zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:08] <johns55> the snmpd.conf file i just editted in on another machine i'd like zenoss to monitor
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:15] <kgoedtel> otherwise i have forgotten to open port 161 in my firewall
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:16] <klinstifen> yeah the only thing i could see would be that the file may be configured to only allow localhost to snmpwalk
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:49] <klinstifen> then the zenoss box wouldn't be able to get any info cuz it wouldn't be localhost
[14-Dec-2007 18:40:54] <johns55> ohhh, so zenoss made that file only for localhost?
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:03] <klinstifen> i dunno, don't know what the file looks like
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:08] <kgoedtel> me neither
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:15] <klinstifen> but i think out of the box snmp is configured for localhost
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:17] <klinstifen> at least mine was
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:36] <johns55> i found it in the zenoss install tree
[14-Dec-2007 18:41:55] <johns55> HOME/ZENOSS/ZENOSSINST/CONF/SNMPD.CONF
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:07] <klinstifen> easy way to find out : ) just try snmpwalk from the zenoss box
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:07] <johns55> opps sorry for the caps
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:22] <johns55> ok let me give it a shot
[14-Dec-2007 18:42:31] <klinstifen> snmpwalk -cpublic -v1 yourothercomputer
[14-Dec-2007 18:44:14] <johns55> thx
[14-Dec-2007 18:45:16] <johns55> how can u tell if its working?
[14-Dec-2007 18:45:27] <johns55> im getting a buncha cryptic things on screen
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:09] <kgoedtel> do
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:19] <kgoedtel> snmpwalk -cpublic -v1 yourothercomputer system
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:37] <kgoedtel> should be less crpytic OIDs
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:41] <kgoedtel> :]
[14-Dec-2007 18:48:58] <klinstifen> umm, if you get anything then it worked
[14-Dec-2007 18:49:09] <klinstifen> you'd see a clear error message if it didnt
[14-Dec-2007 18:49:19] <klinstifen> but kgoedtel's recommendation is good
[14-Dec-2007 18:50:06] <johns55> yes stuffs showing up
[14-Dec-2007 18:51:03] <klinstifen> cool, then you should be able to monitor that from zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 18:55:59] <johns55> hrm the autodiscovery panel changed
[14-Dec-2007 18:56:09] <johns55> documentation states it is under main views/networks
[14-Dec-2007 18:56:21] <johns55> theres only network maps now
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[14-Dec-2007 19:28:00] <johns55> ack did network maps replace network?
[14-Dec-2007 19:29:24] <klinstifen> wha?
[14-Dec-2007 19:29:41] <johns55> on main views, i only see network map
[14-Dec-2007 19:29:43] <johns55> no network
[14-Dec-2007 19:32:56] <klinstifen> is there a Networks under Browse By?
[14-Dec-2007 19:35:54] <johns55> oh yeah
[14-Dec-2007 19:36:08] <johns55> geez, something is wrong with me today, must be because its friday
[14-Dec-2007 19:38:33] <klinstifen> haha, i hear ya
[14-Dec-2007 19:38:55] <klinstifen> just took me 3 mins to realize i put a ' instead of a " and they were both right next to each other like this ' "
[14-Dec-2007 19:39:54] <johns55> im trying to add a network but it will only default to a 24 mask bit
[14-Dec-2007 19:43:23] <klinstifen> what mask bit do you want?
[14-Dec-2007 19:44:37] <johns55> 28
[14-Dec-2007 19:45:06] <johns55> my subnetmask is 255.255.255.240
[14-Dec-2007 19:46:46] <klinstifen> go into the zproperties for Networks
[14-Dec-2007 19:46:51] <klinstifen> and add 28 to the list
[14-Dec-2007 19:47:24] <Brixius> Hello
[14-Dec-2007 19:47:50] <Brixius> I have a question on using zenwin if anyone can help
[14-Dec-2007 19:47:54] <klinstifen> add it to the zDefaultNetworkTree
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:04] <klinstifen> johns55: you see it?
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:44] <johns55> yeah
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:55] <johns55> 24
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:56] <johns55> 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:48:59] <johns55> im not sure what that means
[14-Dec-2007 19:53:51] <klinstifen> those are the default subnets..24= 255.255.255.0
[14-Dec-2007 19:53:58] <klinstifen> it's CIDR notation the 24 and 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:05] <klinstifen> so add your 28 in between 24 and 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:09] <klinstifen> click save
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:14] <klinstifen> and then try to add your subnet
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:24] <klinstifen> 192.168.0.0/28 or whatever your IP is
[14-Dec-2007 19:54:31] <klinstifen> Brixius: zenwin?
[14-Dec-2007 19:55:20] <Brixius> I get a zenwin error on devices I add that are windows.
[14-Dec-2007 19:55:26] <Brixius> er event
[14-Dec-2007 19:56:59] <Brixius> I was looking in the manual for configuration of zenwin, but all it really says is read the readme on it, and I can't seem to find a readme for zenwin
[14-Dec-2007 19:58:35] <Brixius> I'm running the vmware zenoss appliance btw
[14-Dec-2007 19:59:29] <johns55> klinstifen: it's not making the changes if i put 28 in between 24 and 32
[14-Dec-2007 19:59:55] <klinstifen> jons55:when you add your network what are you entering?
[14-Dec-2007 20:00:12] <klinstifen> brixius: err i dunno...what's the zenwin error?
[14-Dec-2007 20:01:17] <Brixius> zenwin /Status/Wmi/Conn ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)
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[14-Dec-2007 20:03:11] <johns55> klinstifen, my network has a subnet mask of 255.255.255.240, im just entering the IP address of the 1st IP on my subnet
[14-Dec-2007 20:03:12] <klinstifen> brixius: did you specify domain credentials in the zProperties?
[14-Dec-2007 20:03:35] <klinstifen> brixius: specifically zwinpassword and zwinuser?
[14-Dec-2007 20:03:52] <klinstifen> johns55: enter that ip address with a /28
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:06] <klinstifen> like 172.16.1.1/28
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:15] <johns55> yes, ive tried however they dont give enough room for that
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:39] <klinstifen> in the ID?
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:42] <klinstifen> i just typed it and it fit
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:47] <johns55> o wait
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:49] <johns55> heh
[14-Dec-2007 20:04:50] <johns55> fits now
[14-Dec-2007 20:05:04] <klinstifen> cool
[14-Dec-2007 20:05:38] <Brixius> kminstifen: Yep, I've set them un zProperties, but I'm using domain creds, one question would be do I use domain\username domain\\username or domain/username
[14-Dec-2007 20:05:54] <johns55> sweet its trying to discover now
[14-Dec-2007 20:07:26] <johns55> ahh man it only discovered itself
[14-Dec-2007 20:07:37] <johns55> i have another box on that network running snmp too
[14-Dec-2007 20:09:57] <johns55> when autodiscovering boxes, is there a place to add the snmp community?
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:17] <klinstifen> domain\username
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:28] <klinstifen> unless using wmic then it's domain/username
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:53] <klinstifen> johns55:zProperties for Devices, I think
[14-Dec-2007 20:11:58] <johns55> nah theyre linux boxes
[14-Dec-2007 20:12:37] <Brixius> wmic?
[14-Dec-2007 20:13:56] <klinstifen> brixius: wmic is used to get data from windows using WMI
[14-Dec-2007 20:14:12] <klinstifen> johns55: the root /Device zProperties
[14-Dec-2007 20:15:48] <johns55> k
[14-Dec-2007 20:19:43] <johns55> strange, it will only discover if i set my community to public
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[14-Dec-2007 20:24:01] <MoreDakka> Are you setting it in Zenoss or on the device?
[14-Dec-2007 20:24:27] <klinstifen> johns55: that's not too strange...if the device you are trying to detect has a community set to public then it makes sense that zenoss only auto-discovers is the community is public
[14-Dec-2007 20:24:43] <MoreDakka> ^^QFT
[14-Dec-2007 20:24:50] <johns55> is it possible to set a default community for zenoss to discover?
[14-Dec-2007 20:26:32] <MoreDakka> under /Devices/zProperties -> zSnmpCommunities.
[14-Dec-2007 20:46:48] <johns55> great i got it
[14-Dec-2007 20:46:48] <johns55> what is the difference between trapcommunity and snmp comunnity
[14-Dec-2007 20:46:48] <johns55> if i change my snmp community name, would i also need to do the same for trapcommunity in the snmpd.conf file?
[14-Dec-2007 21:35:52] <johns55> aw geez, anyone know how to work this snmpd.conf file?
[14-Dec-2007 21:36:37] <johns55> im using the snmpd.conf that came with the install but when performing a snmpd -H, it gives me an error
[14-Dec-2007 21:36:46] <johns55> "/etc/snmp/snmpd.conf: line 49: Error: cannot create trapsink: default"
[14-Dec-2007 21:51:45] <ke4qqq> hey guys - playing with modifying some of the zenpacks - I am watching a few Dell boxes and adding power supply monitoring along with threshholds to alert if one or more fails. I am getting errors like this: Error reading value for "PowerSupplyStatus" on kmex01 (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.674.10892.1.200.10.1.9 is bad) When I snmpwalk it, I get the expected integer. Anyone know why?
[14-Dec-2007 21:54:59] <ke4qqq> johns55 instead of default specify your zenoss box for trapsink
[14-Dec-2007 21:57:38] <johns55> ok lets try this out
[14-Dec-2007 21:57:52] <johns55> how about trapcommunity?
[14-Dec-2007 21:58:43] <ke4qqq> you should be able to leave it out and it should use whatever community string you are using elsewhere (assuming only one) or the most recent (if multiple)
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:16] <ke4qqq> I lied
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:30] <ke4qqq> you have to have it first, and should use whatever community you are using for zenoss
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:35] <johns55> ok i set the trapsink to my zenoss server, and now im getting an alert about snmp coldstart
[14-Dec-2007 21:59:53] <johns55> ke4qqq: have to have what first?
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:06] <ke4qqq> trapcommunity
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:26] <johns55> is that a yum install?
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:36] <ke4qqq> no
[14-Dec-2007 22:00:57] <ke4qqq> in the conf file you'd do something like trapcommunity thenameofmycommunitystring
[14-Dec-2007 22:01:06] <johns55> yes
[14-Dec-2007 22:01:08] <johns55> what is that for?
[14-Dec-2007 22:01:18] <johns55> how is that difference from snmp community?
[14-Dec-2007 22:02:13] <ke4qqq> well remember snmpd listens for requests and responds to requests, traps are sent proactively when something happens. So they (in my mind) should be set to the same thing - but it's telling the traplistener on the other side what comm.
[14-Dec-2007 22:02:54] <johns55> so i should set my trapcommunity name the same as my snmp community name?
[14-Dec-2007 22:03:02] <johns55> is there something i need to set in zenoss also?
[14-Dec-2007 22:10:03] <johns55> hrm i get it now
[14-Dec-2007 22:25:43] <exkev> anyone using 'send string' and 'expect regex' for ip service port monitoring?
[14-Dec-2007 22:25:54] <exkev> it doesn't seem to do anything except cause failure
[14-Dec-2007 22:26:05] <exkev> tcpdump shows nothing but syn/syn-ack/ack exchange
[14-Dec-2007 22:33:17] <exkev> DEBUG zen.ZenTcpClient: sending: status
[14-Dec-2007 22:33:22] <exkev> ^seems to think it's sending something
[14-Dec-2007 22:40:22] <wam> exkev: I saw today that the ssh-service looks for incoming "SSH".
[14-Dec-2007 22:42:17] <exkev> I have to type something first to get a response
[14-Dec-2007 22:42:26] <exkev> I do see it reading those that offer a banner first
[14-Dec-2007 22:42:47] <exkev> looks like upon further inspection, it's not sending a newline and "status\n" in the field sends literal \n
[14-Dec-2007 22:43:13] <wam> exkev: maybe that should be a textarea ;)
[14-Dec-2007 22:43:39] <exkev> it should assume newline
[14-Dec-2007 22: