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[01-Aug-2008 11:31:43] <SniZ|work_> hi, i wanna add to template for "Devices/Server/Windows/" to monitor not only http
[01-Aug-2008 11:31:49] <SniZ|work_> and others i wanna
[01-Aug-2008 11:31:51] <SniZ|work_> what i must do?
[01-Aug-2008 11:33:38] <SniZ|work_> in "/Services /IpService /Registered" i add monitor=true ms-sql-s
[01-Aug-2008 11:34:01] <SniZ|work_> but after i add new device - it cannot be monitored!
[01-Aug-2008 11:52:30] <SniZ|work_> RPC_S_CALL_FAILED: The remote procedure call failed. (1726)
[01-Aug-2008 11:52:30] <SniZ|work_> wtf&
[01-Aug-2008 12:59:17] <Quadro> mmm
[01-Aug-2008 13:00:02] <Quadro> why i can't alert by mail AND paging in the same alerting rule, i wonder
[01-Aug-2008 13:21:57] <IoNu|z> anyone monitoring voice over ip ports with zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 13:22:32] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "T1 0" on host (oid 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.8 is bad)
[01-Aug-2008 13:22:39] <IoNu|z> i`m keep getting these errors...
[01-Aug-2008 14:05:54] <malbon> IoNu|z: that is IF-MIB::ifOutErrors.8 (so port 8 in the table ifOutErrors
[01-Aug-2008 14:05:55] <malbon> )
[01-Aug-2008 14:06:42] <IoNu|z> i have like 800 like that...
[01-Aug-2008 14:07:12] <malbon> IoNu|z: probably not a valid type for that port, what type of port does T1 0 say under Type?
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:02] <malbon> there any zenoss devs here btw? I have a problem/question I'd like a hand with relating to RRD graph points and ObjectMap
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:11] <IoNu|z> IpInterface
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:33] <malbon> IoNu|z: then your problem is easy to solve. :)
[01-Aug-2008 14:08:48] <IoNu|z> really?
[01-Aug-2008 14:09:03] <malbon> IoNu|z: what you do is clone the ethernetCsmacd and call it IpInterface
[01-Aug-2008 14:09:54] <malbon> IoNu|z: you then take out the datapoints for ifOutErrors (and other oid families that are not present) and all the points on the graphs and thresholds.
[01-Aug-2008 14:10:26] <malbon> to get the name of the oid do 'snmptranslate <oid>'
[01-Aug-2008 14:11:53] <malbon> IoNu|z: this also works for propVirtual interfaces too. :)
[01-Aug-2008 14:14:39] <malbon> SniZ|work_: You need to put the login details of an account that can access WMI into the zProperties of the device or it's class.
[01-Aug-2008 14:19:55] <IoNu|z> where do i clone ethernetCsmacd ?
[01-Aug-2008 14:20:21] <IoNu|z> oh lol.. found it
[01-Aug-2008 14:26:48] <malbon> I tend to use /Devices /Network
[01-Aug-2008 15:44:10] <SEJeff> I'm trying to take a bogus warning event and automatically send it to history
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:09] <SEJeff> So I've created an event class and when selecting "Map Events to Class", and selecting the class, it says, "1 event is not class /Unknown"
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:27] <SEJeff> Not sure exactly I'm doing wrong
[01-Aug-2008 15:45:51] <SEJeff> *what
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:16] <rmull> Hello, I'm coming from Nagios - zenoss.com mentions that the Enterprise version has "Enhanced Windows Support." What does that mean? With Nagios, I could write a custom script to execute on remote hosts. Can I do this with Zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:35] <SEJeff> rmull, Zenoss uses wmi to run commands
[01-Aug-2008 15:52:53] <SEJeff> rmull, So you can get anything in the windows performance monitor and trend / alert on it. It is pretty cool
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:06] <rmull> SEJeff: Thanks - this is only for the Enterprise version?
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:17] <maxamillion> where might a good resource be on how to apply a SSL certificate to zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 15:53:48] <SEJeff> rmull, There are open source windows tools for zenoss, but they aren't as polished or integrated as the version in Enterprise
[01-Aug-2008 15:54:55] <rmull> Okay. Last question - Nagios has a user-contrib site where you can get all types of contributed plugins. Does Zenoss have a contrib site or similar?
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:04] <SEJeff> Yeah just a sec
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:41] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/ , http://www.zenoss.com/community/wiki
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Wiki - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:50] <malbon> rmull: Zenpacks are Zenoss Plugins, but you can also use nagios ones without too much effort
[01-Aug-2008 15:55:53] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Community Home - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 15:56:13] <rmull> SEJeff: Great, thanks. I'll be idling here for a while to learn more.
[01-Aug-2008 15:56:38] <malbon> rmull: also commercal zenoss has WinPerf datasources too which are quite handy.
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:03] <rmull> malbon: Is there a remote chance of those features ever working their way into the core release?
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:23] <rmull> I don't know jack about windows machines, but the boss wants to support a good number of them.
[01-Aug-2008 15:57:27] <SEJeff> rmull, You can get similar features with community zenpacks
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:08] <rmull> SEJeff: Fantastic. And the reason I'm considering switching is because I understand Zenoss is supposed to scale better than a Nagios/Munin combo, is that true?
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:16] <malbon> rmull: no idea to be honest. I am only a customer.
[01-Aug-2008 15:58:28] <rmull> malbon: Fair enough, appreciate the info.
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:02] <SEJeff> rmull, Depends on how you set it up. Enterprise certainly scales better than core because it has the distributed collectors
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:23] <SEJeff> Both can scale perfectly fine if they are setup properly
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:28] <malbon> actually distributed collectors can be done with core too. it's in the book. :)
[01-Aug-2008 15:59:54] <SEJeff> I've been on a team that scaled nagios to 10000+ service checks on ~4000 hosts
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:13] <rmull> Did you have a graphing solution?
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:24] <SEJeff> Anyone who uses nagios also uses cacti
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:36] <SEJeff> There isn't any other decent alternative. Zenoss does it all in 1
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:41] <SEJeff> Which is much better
[01-Aug-2008 16:00:58] <rmull> SEJeff: You seem to have plenty of experience in the field - I believe you.
[01-Aug-2008 16:01:08] <SEJeff> rmull, It is my job :)
[01-Aug-2008 16:01:31] <SEJeff> They pay me to look like I know what I'm doing. It works well
[01-Aug-2008 16:02:59] <rmull> Yeah, I'm just getting into it, so I want to make sure I have a solid infrastructure in place before I start scaling it.
[01-Aug-2008 16:03:43] <rmull> By the way, for monitoring hosts behind NAT/firewalling, I'm using OpenVPN. I don't suppose Zenoss can handle something like this without extra tools either?
[01-Aug-2008 16:03:48] <SEJeff> rmull, Look into the distributed collectors, they are schmexy
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:08] <rmull> I suppose that means I should look into the "book" mentioned earlier as well.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:11] <SEJeff> rmull, Just put the vpn client on the zenoss server and setup a tunnle. Seem slike a no brainer
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:21] <SEJeff> This keyboard is weird
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:26] <rmull> Okay, that's what I'm doing for Nagios.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:30] <rmull> So that should be portable enough.
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:43] <SEJeff> There doesn't seem like any other clean way to do it
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:53] <SEJeff> So long as the route is there, zenoss should be able to monitor it
[01-Aug-2008 16:04:57] <malbon> rmull: the Packt book is worth getting, while all the info in it is freely available it does pull it all together quite nicely
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:06] <rmull> I think Red Hat makes you license a Satellite server so they can monitor through NAT.
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:10] <rmull> Heh
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:25] <SEJeff> rmull, So setup spacewalk and forget about sat server
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:31] <SEJeff> spacewalk is open source now
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:31] <malbon> rmull: I use mrepo for my redhat distribution :)
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:41] <rmull> I don't want to pay Red Hat, and we're moving to CentOS anyway :D
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:44] <rmull> Man, I am so cheap.
[01-Aug-2008 16:05:58] <rmull> I checked out Spacewalk a while back
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:05] <SEJeff> malbon, You should really look into cobbler. yum repo + kickstart management / config with a pretty web ui
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:17] <SEJeff> Yeah it doesn't support anything but oracle ATM
[01-Aug-2008 16:06:43] <malbon> SEJeff: I use HP RDP, aka Altiris Deployment Solution
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:01] <SEJeff> Oh I'm sorry
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:07] <malbon> sadly I have to do windows as well.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:27] <rmull> Bah.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:29] <SEJeff> malbon, cobbler will soon support image based installs for windows
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:33] <malbon> actually I quite like altiris, I have automated my entire install now, including kerberos integration etc.
[01-Aug-2008 16:07:59] <malbon> rmull: the book is here: http://www.amazon.com/Zenoss-Core-Network-System-Monitoring/dp/1847194281/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217606774&sr=8-1
[01-Aug-2008 16:08:42] <malbon> rmull: of course you can choose your own perferred book vendor if you like.
[01-Aug-2008 16:08:42] <rmull> malbon: Great, thank you. And SEJeff, cobbler looks pretty cool.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:01] <SEJeff> http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Cobbler: Provisioning Made Simple (at cobbler.et.redhat.com)
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:12] <rmull> Wow, this is very recently published.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:20] <rmull> Nice.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:23] <malbon> SEJeff: I got mrepo/altiris playing quite nicely, and I don't like image based windows deployments.
[01-Aug-2008 16:09:45] <SEJeff> malbon, disk iso is not image based. it is though you put the cd in and booted from it
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:07] <SEJeff> So you could use RIS or something like that. Whatever the windows deployment thingy is
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:22] <SEJeff> But thats good you have something that works for you
[01-Aug-2008 16:10:52] <malbon> SEJeff: RIS is appauling, Iso based would be more interesting. I'll keep my eye open incase we have to flee the comforts of using HP stuff.
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:29] <SEJeff> malbon, The cobbler team is working on windows deployment mainly for the ovirt team (http://ovirt.org). It is all cool tech
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:46] <__adytum-bot__> Title: oVirt (at ovirt.org)
[01-Aug-2008 16:11:49] <malbon> SEJeff: have you written a modeler for a zenpack as part of what you've been doing?
[01-Aug-2008 16:12:17] <SEJeff> No, I'm working on a custom collector for sucking stuff from ganglia and shoving it into zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 16:13:08] <malbon> ok, shame.
[01-Aug-2008 16:13:56] <rmull> Blah, Ganglia, another monitoring solution. Is it something I should look at as well, or is Zenoss "the best there is."
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:16] <SEJeff> No ganglia is a very very different purpose. It is for HPC style clusters
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:27] <SEJeff> If you aren't familar with why you need it there is a good chance you don't
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:33] <SEJeff> It isn't that great
[01-Aug-2008 16:14:39] <rmull> Oh, yeah, just checked it out, definitely not what I want, heh.
[01-Aug-2008 16:23:30] <rmull> So how about those "fine grained ACLs" that the enterprise version offers?
[01-Aug-2008 16:23:51] <rmull> Can I get read-only for specific host groups with the community version?
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:31] <SEJeff> No
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:34] <SEJeff> Only enterprise
[01-Aug-2008 16:25:37] <SEJeff> From my understanding
[01-Aug-2008 16:26:18] <malbon> to be honest I haven't played with the ACL stuff yet.
[01-Aug-2008 17:40:02] <cciewu> hello?
[01-Aug-2008 17:47:46] <cciewu> i need some zenoss help
[01-Aug-2008 18:02:45] <cciewu> hello
[01-Aug-2008 18:02:59] <cciewu> are you running zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 18:03:03] <cciewu> 2.2.3?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:32] <daMaestro> anyone have syslogging working?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:41] <cciewu> syslog yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:50] <daMaestro> as I read it, the messages are supposed to show up in events for the given device?
[01-Aug-2008 18:06:51] <cciewu> what is your problem with zenoss and syslog?
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:07] <cciewu> if you've modeled it with snmp yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:19] <daMaestro> yes, it's been modeled with snmp
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:29] <daMaestro> and i set: local5.crit @zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:39] <daMaestro> then: logger -p local5.crit testing
[01-Aug-2008 18:07:49] <daMaestro> however, nothing shows up in the device's events log
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:10] <cciewu> does your snmpd.conf point to your zenoss server?
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:41] <daMaestro> for traps?
[01-Aug-2008 18:08:48] <cciewu> yes
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:00] <daMaestro> not yet, now
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:01] <daMaestro> no*
[01-Aug-2008 18:09:32] <daMaestro> i thought that the syslogging was separate from anything snmp
[01-Aug-2008 18:13:54] <cciewu> sorry stepped away
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:12] <cciewu> well you still will want all info sent there
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:20] <cciewu> and local5.* is more accurate
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:25] <cciewu> otherwise you won't see much
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:33] <cciewu> unless is a crit
[01-Aug-2008 18:14:35] <cciewu> event
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> ./zenmigrate
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Database going to version Zenoss 2.2.1
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing EvenMoreBettererStandardErrorMessage (2.2.1)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> INFO:zen.migrate:Installing HappierZenPackRels (2.2.1)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> Recovering
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:00] <cciewu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:02] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/zenmigrate.py", line 21, in ?
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:04] <cciewu> main()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:06] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/zenmigrate.py", line 18, in main
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:08] <cciewu> m.main()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:10] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 426, in main
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:12] <cciewu> self.cutover()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:14] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 306, in cutover
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:16] <cciewu> self.migrate()
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:18] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/Migrate.py", line 282, in migrate
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:20] <cciewu> m.cutover(self.dmd)
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:22] <cciewu> File "/opt/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/migrate/happierZenPackRels.py", line 22, in cutover
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:24] <cciewu> for p in dmd.ZenPackManager.packs():
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:26] <cciewu> AttributeError: ZenPackManager
[01-Aug-2008 18:17:28] <cciewu> anybody can help with that?
[01-Aug-2008 18:18:00] <daMaestro> cciewu, i'm trying to just manually test this is working
[01-Aug-2008 18:18:28] <cciewu> if you can i'd probably down the eth0 or something and see if that registers
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:02] <daMaestro> lol, i think i found it
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:10] <daMaestro> iptables mis-configuration
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:21] <cciewu> oh yeah that would definitely do it
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:31] <jb> anyone know the mysql password to the stack installer?
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:39] <jb> im trying to run zenbackup..
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:45] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~/backup$ zenbackup --save-mysql-access --file ~/zenoss-2.2.0-backup.tgz
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:45] <jb> mysqldump: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'zenoss'@'localhost' (using password: NO) when trying to connect
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:54] <cciewu> umm that would be something you need to ask your dba
[01-Aug-2008 18:19:58] <jb> uh
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:04] <jb> no?
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:14] <cciewu> otherwise set one and then use it
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:17] <jb> the stack installer includes its own copy of mysqld, and it obviously sets a default password
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:24] <jb> :)
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <daMaestro> you can change it via the UI
[01-Aug-2008 18:20:27] <cciewu> oh ok then i'm not sure
[01-Aug-2008 18:21:24] <jb> daM: will that actually update the password via mysql? or just the password that zope tries to use?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:06] <cciewu> anybody have any problems with zenmigrate?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:16] <cciewu> also i've lost /home/zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:22] <jb> of course..
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:29] <jb> what version are you upgrading from/to?
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:37] <cciewu> 212 to 223
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:39] <jb> oh
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:44] <jb> good luck.
[01-Aug-2008 18:22:47] <jb> :(
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:00] <cciewu> well burned that bridge already
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:21] <cciewu> sadly looking back to the side when my performance data still worked
[01-Aug-2008 18:23:41] <cciewu> ok brb
[01-Aug-2008 18:24:08] <jb> btw the default pw is "zenoss"
[01-Aug-2008 18:25:14] <jb> but it doesn't look there is any easy way to change the zenbackup script
[01-Aug-2008 18:26:37] <jb> other than manually editing it and adding a "-pzenoss" :)
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:33] <cciewu> ok i'm back
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:38] <cciewu> yeah -p zenoss
[01-Aug-2008 18:37:48] <cciewu> awfully annoying when you have to cron a mysqldump
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:38] <jb> wow
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:40] <jb> zenbackup is so busted.
[01-Aug-2008 19:00:53] <jb> i dont know what its doing to eat up so much space
[01-Aug-2008 19:03:28] <daMaestro> how do i set the snmp trap community?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:02] <daMaestro> /zport/About/editDaemonConfig?daemon=zentrap ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:08] <daMaestro> if so, what do i set?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:12] <cciewu> ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:23] <cciewu> no let me get it from the correct place
[01-Aug-2008 19:05:50] <cciewu> jb: don't forget it's also gathering all the performance data
[01-Aug-2008 19:06:01] <cciewu> yeah i blew up my tmp also
[01-Aug-2008 19:06:15] <cciewu> i'm considering mounting a nas mount behind tmp
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:02] <cciewu> maestro: look in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:08] <cciewu> trap2sink: A SNMPv2c trap receiver
[01-Aug-2008 19:07:21] <cciewu> arguments: host [community] [portnum]
[01-Aug-2008 19:11:52] <daMaestro> cciewu, for zenoss?
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:11] <daMaestro> cciewu, i need to set the community name(s) that zenoss will actually honor
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:27] <cciewu> ok i think you set that in snmp right?
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:33] <cciewu> every device uses the same
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:37] <daMaestro> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-api-docs/2.1/ZenEvents.zentrap-pysrc.html#ZenTrap.doHandleRequest doesn't seem to show a community string is actually ever checked
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:44] <jb> its annoyign that I have to make /tmp 13GB to support zenbackup's tmp files ;P
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:51] <__adytum-bot__> Title: ZenEvents.zentrap (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:12:57] <daMaestro> cciewu, i mean for the zentrapd community settings
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:12] <cciewu> i don't know about that setting
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:14] <cciewu> sorry
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:41] <daMaestro> sok, thanks.
[01-Aug-2008 19:13:59] <cciewu> have you looked in the forum?
[01-Aug-2008 19:32:27] <KBA-USA> Hey all
[01-Aug-2008 19:32:38] <KBA-USA> Is there a way to make zenoss play a sound when an event occurs?
[01-Aug-2008 19:35:37] <KBA-USA> Anyone?
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:45] <cciewu> a sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:48] <cciewu> ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:36:50] <cciewu> hm
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:05] <cciewu> yeah i think so in alerting rules maybe
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:52] <cciewu> nope no sound just checked
[01-Aug-2008 19:37:53] <cciewu> sorry
[01-Aug-2008 19:38:17] <cciewu> you could probably associate the sound with a command
[01-Aug-2008 19:38:31] <cciewu> and then when the even occurs execute the command that will play the sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:30] <KBA-USA> Yeah, that is over my head
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:34] <KBA-USA> how would I go about doing that
[01-Aug-2008 19:39:44] <KBA-USA> basically I need zenoss to play a sound when a critical alert occurs
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:09] <cciewu> do you have a cell?
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:16] <KBA-USA> a cell phone yes
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:19] <cciewu> have it send an sms to cell and have the cell ring you
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:26] <cciewu> find out your cell email address
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:33] <cciewu> put it into the alertig rule
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:46] <KBA-USA> Yeah, but there are 5 of us in the office, and Id like it to play via the zenoss kiosk we have set up
[01-Aug-2008 19:40:48] <cciewu> have the alert look for the event and then page you about it
[01-Aug-2008 19:41:23] <cciewu> i think you can schedule which pager gets the alert also
[01-Aug-2008 19:41:29] <cciewu> can put in multiple ones
[01-Aug-2008 19:42:07] <KBA-USA> Yeah but we have this nice and pretty zenoss kiosk set up in the office
[01-Aug-2008 19:42:19] <KBA-USA> it would be very useful if that kiosk played the sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:43:04] <cciewu> ok here you go setup a simple outlook client of some kind that'll receive the email in the background and play a wav file
[01-Aug-2008 19:44:51] <KBA-USA> Ok, and how would i set zenoss to email to this client ?
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:14] <cciewu> setup an alertr
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:28] <KBA-USA> where do I do that?
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:31] <cciewu> add a filter to look for the particular event
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:34] <cciewu> settings
[01-Aug-2008 19:45:58] <malbon> KBA-USA: the manual explains it very nicely.
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:15] <KBA-USA> I have looked though it, there is nothing about sounds
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:32] <malbon> nope because it doesn't do sounds by default.
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:42] <KBA-USA> exactly
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:46] <cciewu> right nothing about sounds, but like i said stick a email client on machine and email it, client will play sound
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <KBA-USA> so thats why I am asking for help
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <malbon> you need to call a script to do that on the device
[01-Aug-2008 19:46:47] <rmull> There's no way to run a script when an event happens?
[01-Aug-2008 19:48:13] <cciewu> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/ch11s14.html
[01-Aug-2008 19:48:27] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:13] <malbon> KBA-USA: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/zenoss-guide/2.2.3/ch20s04.html
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:18] <malbon> it's even in the index
[01-Aug-2008 19:49:29] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Admin Guide - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Aug-2008 19:50:43] <cciewu> malbon: can you help with my zenmigrate problem?
[01-Aug-2008 19:50:49] <malbon> cciewu: no
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:11] <malbon> cciewu: I don't have enough knowledge to debug that one, sorry.
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:19] <cciewu> did you see it?
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:46] <malbon> yeah
[01-Aug-2008 19:51:52] <cciewu> ok
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:07] <cciewu> any zenoss devs hang out here?
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:12] <malbon> the 2.1.3 to 2.2.x transition was huge
[01-Aug-2008 19:52:49] <cciewu> i know, i avoided 2.2.1 and i thought they worked everything out by 2.2.3
[01-Aug-2008 19:53:48] <malbon> got a backup of your system before upgrading?
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:19] <cciewu> couldn't tmp blew up on zenbackup
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:25] <cciewu> not enough space
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:34] <malbon> oh well.
[01-Aug-2008 19:54:43] <malbon> you're knackered then probably.
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:09] <cciewu> do you know if there is a way to do zenbackup without all the perf data?
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:15] <cciewu> that'll save a lot of space
[01-Aug-2008 19:55:34] <malbon> I backup the lot.
[01-Aug-2008 19:56:04] <malbon> you could try going into var and removing the pid and zec files, after stopping
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:03] <malbon> then start zeodb and try the zenmigrate again, however the zenpacks changed a lot, so what would probably be better is putting the old zip zenpacks back, then upgrading then one at a time.
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:22] <malbon> after taking a full backup at each step.
[01-Aug-2008 19:57:27] <cciewu> hmm interesting
[01-Aug-2008 19:58:38] <malbon> but before you do anything, backup, then backup again for good measure
[01-Aug-2008 19:58:56] <malbon> afterall disk is cheap
[01-Aug-2008 21:40:38] <cciewu> does anybody know how to downgrade?
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[02-Aug-2008 04:18:01] <daMaestro> someone @ ZenOSS should make sure to chime in with this thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-July/msg00143.html
[02-Aug-2008 04:18:14] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Server Monitoring - A replacement for Nagios? (at www.redhat.com)
[02-Aug-2008 04:18:25] <daMaestro> I've already commented on the situation here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435470#c8
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[02-Aug-2008 17:57:58] <BuFF> hello, what is a default username/passwd for zenoss ?
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:41] <BuFF> i used this installation guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Install_the_Zenoss_stack
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:47] <BuFF> anyone ?
[02-Aug-2008 17:58:56] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Ubuntu:Hardy - (at ubuntuguide.org)
[02-Aug-2008 18:01:30] <BuFF> __adytum-bot: what do u mean ?
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[03-Aug-2008 22:54:51] <[Yatta]> is there a problem with zenmib in the VM of 2.2.3 ??
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:11] <[Yatta]> i have somemibs loaded... but I'm trying to load another mib....
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:41] <[Yatta]> in loading the other mib it is saying INFO:zen.zenmib:Unable to find a file providing the MIB SCTE-HMS-ROOTS
[03-Aug-2008 22:56:54] <[Yatta]> I have SCTE-HMS-ROOTS loaded already... :-(
[03-Aug-2008 23:10:12] <[Yatta]> I thnk i understand now.....
[03-Aug-2008 23:13:31] <[Yatta]> After I put all the mibs in the correct dependency order and run zenmib... the mibs are loaded with Nodes and Notifications...
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[04-Aug-2008 10:05:31] <DarkMats> I'm having a strange problem. zenhub doesn't start with the rest of zenoss. "service zenoss status" says that zenhub is not running, so I ran "zenhub run -v 8" and it runs just fine. Can't find anything in the logs or anything. Any advice?
[04-Aug-2008 10:06:32] <DarkMats> Oh, and when I run "zenhub run -v8" it still doesn't register with zenoss in some way. service zenoss status still says that zenhub is down and so does the zenoss page
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[04-Aug-2008 13:08:58] <KBA-USA> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up zenoss so that it will monitor my VPN connections
[04-Aug-2008 13:09:28] <KBA-USA> The problem is... the main office is on a 10.11 address and the sattilite offices are all on 192.168 addresses
[04-Aug-2008 13:09:44] <KBA-USA> Does anyone know how to make zenoss monitor this?
[04-Aug-2008 13:22:06] <Ozux> hi, I just installed ZenOSS 2.3 but unfortunately AddDevice can't find interfaces (eth0,1,2) and other OS performances, is there any Idea? I have pilot Zenoss (2.2) in same network with same condition that shows every thing related to server,
[04-Aug-2008 13:22:38] <Ozux> And .. there is no problem with Windows servers I have problem just with our LinuxServer!
[04-Aug-2008 13:59:39] <nemo_> zenoss 2.2 for enterprise
[04-Aug-2008 13:59:44] <nemo_> where is it ?
[04-Aug-2008 14:06:48] <Drognan> Are templates stored in text files? I need to make 160 graphs and I'd rather use perl than click 1200 or so times
[04-Aug-2008 14:18:21] <nemo_> werd
[04-Aug-2008 14:20:28] <Bulwinkle> Drognan: put all of the devices in one group and apply the template to the group....
[04-Aug-2008 14:21:06] <Drognan> I'm looking to make the template.
[04-Aug-2008 14:48:47] <KBA-USA> Hey everyone, I am trying to set up zenoss so that it will monitor my VPN connections. The problem is... the main office is on a 10.11 address and the sattilite offices are all on 192.168 addresses. Does anyone know how to make zenoss monitor this?
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:00] <malbon> KBA-USA: Add a network, then discover it. (This info is in the manual)
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:25] <KBA-USA> I did that Malbon, but accoring to the maunal it will only draw the links if its on the same network
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:39] <KBA-USA> and my VPN is accross 2 networks
[04-Aug-2008 14:50:48] <KBA-USA> 192.168.75.1 and 10.11.1.1
[04-Aug-2008 14:53:00] <Ozux> Do ZenOSS have Cache? I Addedd one device to ZenOSS and Deleted that, but even after restarting ZenOSS shows exactly what shows befor I Delete it!
[04-Aug-2008 14:54:53] <malbon> KBA-USA: monitoring and drawing the links in the flash applet are 2 totally different things.
[04-Aug-2008 14:55:47] <KBA-USA> Ok, well I really need the lines to draw within the flash applet. Trying to justify purchasing the "full" version
[04-Aug-2008 14:56:47] <malbon> Raise a ticket, I don't know anything about that. It would help if you asked the right question.
[04-Aug-2008 14:57:01] <malbon> Can you see the devices in the device tree ok?
[04-Aug-2008 14:57:12] <KBA-USA> Within the device list? yes
[04-Aug-2008 14:58:09] <KBA-USA> And I added static routes between the VPN devices
[04-Aug-2008 14:58:10] <malbon> ok, make sure that in the flash applet you set the start device to be your vpn router
[04-Aug-2008 15:02:35] <KBA-USA> Malbon, what do you mean by that?
[04-Aug-2008 15:02:35] <cciewu> good morning
[04-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <malbon> KBA-USA: in the 'selected device or network' box, put the IP of your vpn router.
[04-Aug-2008 15:05:48] <KBA-USA> Oh Malbon, you think I am talking about the Network Map, I mean I want it to draw the connections between the VPN routers on the Google map
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:13] <cciewu> are any of you good with graphing commands?
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:24] <cciewu> like a dns response time command?
[04-Aug-2008 15:23:50] <malbon> KBA-USA: I think you need to go and think about the exact question you want to ask, so far you've not mentioned google map at all.
[04-Aug-2008 15:24:07] <malbon> KBA-USA: A good re-read of the manual probably wouldn't do any harm either.
[04-Aug-2008 15:25:16] <cciewu> malbon have you worked with setting up datapoints with the command as a data source?
[04-Aug-2008 15:25:47] <malbon> cciewu: nope, sorry, I only use SNMP and wmi
[04-Aug-2008 15:26:27] <cciewu> do you know about the graphic ability in zenoss?
[04-Aug-2008 15:31:10] <malbon> cciewu: sorry, I don't understand what you are asking for.
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:03] <cciewu> i'm trying to create a graph with a command as a datasource
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:19] <cciewu> i was trying to gauge how much you knew
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:28] <cciewu> see if you had more than me
[04-Aug-2008 15:33:32] <cciewu> give me a few pointers
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:15] <cciewu> but i think i might have found the answer anyway here:
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:22] <cciewu> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5467&highlight=datapoint+data+source+command
[04-Aug-2008 15:36:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Command data sources - how? (at community.zenoss.com)
[04-Aug-2008 15:58:11] <maxamillion> semi-random question: anyone know how to apply a ssl cert on zenoss?
[04-Aug-2008 15:59:35] <cciewu> not me, but i'm interested , is this to authenticate to zenoss? or are you looking at perf/monitor ssl access somewhere else?
[04-Aug-2008 16:03:29] <malbon> maxamillion: there is a ticket about that. check the trac
[04-Aug-2008 16:04:14] <maxamillion> malbon: awesome, thank you
[04-Aug-2008 16:27:14] <maxamillion> malbon: so stunnel is the only way as of right now?
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:13] <thedude42> maxamillion: i've only seen guides that tell you how to use stunnel to do zope over ssl
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:42] <thedude42> technically it's a zope issue they need to add if i understand the issue correctly
[04-Aug-2008 17:01:58] <maxamillion> thedude42: yeah, i also found one that shows how to through apache ... just wondering if there was a built in somewhere that others might know about
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:09] <thedude42> nope
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:12] <thedude42> you are not alone
[04-Aug-2008 17:02:13] <maxamillion> thedude42: yeah, i don't doubt that zope is the one lacking in the scenario
[04-Aug-2008 17:08:39] <malbon> maxamillion: I would guess so.
[04-Aug-2008 17:09:10] <malbon> maxamillion: you could probably use apache or squid to do it.
[04-Aug-2008 18:03:57] <IoNu|z> anyone monitoring cisco devices with Zenoss core 2.2.3? I am getting all kind of unknown OIDs and stuff like that
[04-Aug-2008 18:04:08] <IoNu|z> so i was wodnering if anyone has it working
[04-Aug-2008 18:09:40] <densone> anyone know where I can get a xen image for zenoss? Zenoss has a VMWare image. Wishing they had one for Xen
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[04-Aug-2008 20:43:30] <densone> zen.ZenDisc no portscan plugins found for web01. Anyone have any insight into this error. Im running ubuntu.
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[04-Aug-2008 22:24:10] <malbon> IoNu|z: did you make the propVirtual template? or is this for the VOIP Encap interfaces?
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:35] <IoNu|z> i didn`t make any template
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:47] <IoNu|z> default settings for everything
[04-Aug-2008 22:24:58] <malbon> ok, that'll be why.
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:17] <IoNu|z> so what do i need to do?
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:20] <malbon> some types of interfaces only expose certain oid's (or datapoints)
[04-Aug-2008 22:25:56] <malbon> best thing to do is get a list of the types of interface you need.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:21] <malbon> propVirtual / ds2 / VOIP Encap etc and what oid's are missing for each.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:36] <malbon> ignore the last digit it is the snmp index.
[04-Aug-2008 22:26:50] <malbon> so usually it'll be .10 .11 .16 or .17 missing.
[04-Aug-2008 22:27:18] <malbon> you can then copy the ethernetCSMACD template and remove the corresponding datapoints.
[04-Aug-2008 22:28:00] <malbon> or the other option is to add something like Serial0\0\0* to zInterfaceIgnore (or whatever it is called)
[04-Aug-2008 22:30:58] <malbon> or the other option is you can send me a PM with your interface types as I am going to be working on our router templates tomorrow now I have got the switches clean,
[04-Aug-2008 22:32:12] <malbon> I can then zenpack them up and pop them onto the wiki
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:21] <IoNu|z> nice
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:27] <IoNu|z> well i`m not at work right now
[04-Aug-2008 22:33:39] <IoNu|z> but.. are you going to be available tomorow morning?
[04-Aug-2008 22:34:05] <malbon> I'm on UK time, best thing is to PM mikea on the forum.
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:49] <IoNu|z> ok
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:49] <IoNu|z> cool
[04-Aug-2008 22:38:51] <IoNu|z> thank you
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[05-Aug-2008 13:58:28] <IoNu|z> malbon you online?
[05-Aug-2008 14:07:41] <cciewu> if you would like i might be able to help if i can
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:14] <IoNu|z> cool
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:29] <IoNu|z> he was saying something about a vocie encapsulation template yesterday
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:33] <IoNu|z> for ciscos
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:47] <cciewu> ok that was sadly beyond me
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:57] <IoNu|z> dang
[05-Aug-2008 14:08:58] <IoNu|z> ok
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:00] <cciewu> sorry
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:14] <IoNu|z> maybe you can help me with soemthign else
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:20] <IoNu|z> you monitor interfaces on switches?
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:38] <cciewu> shouldn't be too hard
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:47] <IoNu|z> yes.. they are in there
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:49] <cciewu> have they been identified by snmp?
[05-Aug-2008 14:09:59] <IoNu|z> but when they change to down... zenoss still shows them up
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:33] <cciewu> i'm guessing here but maybe you need the cisco zenpack? maybe?
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:40] <cciewu> i'm assuming cisco switches
[05-Aug-2008 14:10:43] <IoNu|z> cisco sla?
[05-Aug-2008 14:11:57] <cciewu> maybe
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:28] <IoNu|z> hwo about last collection
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:34] <IoNu|z> it still shows as yesterday?
[05-Aug-2008 14:12:53] <cciewu> i don't know about when the collections are run sorry
[05-Aug-2008 14:13:02] <cciewu> i guess i'm not very good with zenoss yet
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:18] <IoNu|z> that`s cool
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:20] <IoNu|z> i`m not eather
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:23] <IoNu|z> we all learn
[05-Aug-2008 14:29:43] <cciewu> i'm actually learning from a setup that was not mine :(
[05-Aug-2008 14:36:11] <Gamekiller77> dude my zenoss is not working as it use ti any more
[05-Aug-2008 14:36:59] <Gamekiller77> it take so long for my portlet to load and i turned off zenmolder
[05-Aug-2008 14:38:34] <Gamekiller77> every time i try to click device list it get lost connection to the server
[05-Aug-2008 14:39:08] <Gamekiller77> also i have upgraded to 2.2.3
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:18] <IoNu|z> you have allot of routes in your config/
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:19] <IoNu|z> ?
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:34] <Gamekiller77> i have noticed mysqld.bin is using a lot of cpu %
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:49] <Gamekiller77> well i have all my servers all 20
[05-Aug-2008 14:41:57] <Gamekiller77> and the 6 switchs
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:06] <IoNu|z> i bet it`s teh first run and it`s trying to remodel everything
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:11] <IoNu|z> check by networks
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:18] <IoNu|z> see how many networks you have in there
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:31] <IoNu|z> i experienced the same problem when i had allot of networks
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:33] <Gamekiller77> in the Zenoss issues all the services have seconds listed
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:44] <Gamekiller77> yah i have like 30
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:46] <Gamekiller77> subnets
[05-Aug-2008 14:42:53] <Gamekiller77> but i turned off the modeler
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:15] <Gamekiller77> and i can not click on anthing
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:42] <Gamekiller77> every time i do the cpu load on mysql.bin jumps it at 190% now
[05-Aug-2008 14:43:45] <Gamekiller77> i have 2 cpu
[05-Aug-2008 14:44:45] <Gamekiller77> i just tried to click over to networks and nothing
[05-Aug-2008 14:44:57] <IoNu|z> did you try to restart the box?
[05-Aug-2008 14:45:17] <Gamekiller77> localhost zenmodeler 2836704 i have that in the zenoss issues
[05-Aug-2008 14:45:26] <Gamekiller77> yah done that already
[05-Aug-2008 14:46:05] <Gamekiller77> i am almost sure it the mysql that the stack uses
[05-Aug-2008 14:46:20] <Gamekiller77> why would it be at 125% usage
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:18] <IoNu|z> i have no ideea
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:37] <IoNu|z> is this teh first time taht you started with 2.2.3
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:38] <IoNu|z> ?
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:40] <Gamekiller77> my network stuff just came up
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:45] <Gamekiller77> yes
[05-Aug-2008 14:47:57] <IoNu|z> how many networks do you have in there?
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:11] <Gamekiller77> 31
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:35] <Gamekiller77> subnets
[05-Aug-2008 14:48:56] <IoNu|z> then.. that`s not your problem
[05-Aug-2008 14:49:20] <Gamekiller77> it mysql i looking at top right now on the console as i work
[05-Aug-2008 14:49:25] <Gamekiller77> and it pegged
[05-Aug-2008 14:50:35] <Gamekiller77> this was so fast then it started to get slower and slower
[05-Aug-2008 14:51:45] <Gamekiller77> with 20 servers i do not see why the database would be getting hit so hard
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:13] <IoNu|z> did you try searching for an answer on the forums?
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:26] <Gamekiller77> i going there now
[05-Aug-2008 14:52:48] <Gamekiller77> i like the more human system of IRC
[05-Aug-2008 14:56:52] <Gamekiller77> that just super odd it sits at 120 - 150% cpu usage by mysqld.bin
[05-Aug-2008 15:03:43] <cciewu> do you have anything flooding your events?
[05-Aug-2008 15:03:55] <Gamekiller77> use to not any more
[05-Aug-2008 15:04:30] <Gamekiller77> now i have a ton of RED in windows devices great
[05-Aug-2008 15:04:54] <Gamekiller77> it finaly desided to get all the service i ask it to watch on my windows boxes
[05-Aug-2008 15:06:25] <Gamekiller77> am i correct in thinking that 2.2.3 has it own mysql engine right
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:38] <Gamekiller77> ok i had mysql still running from the old install i had
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:45] <Gamekiller77> rebooting to see if that fixes stuff
[05-Aug-2008 15:08:53] <nemo_> ;/
[05-Aug-2008 15:09:51] <cciewu> might want to run some tuning on your mysql as well
[05-Aug-2008 15:10:35] <Gamekiller77> but in 2.2.X stack it has it own mysql instance
[05-Aug-2008 15:10:47] <Gamekiller77> i have to find out how to get to it
[05-Aug-2008 15:33:36] <Gamekiller77> so idle zenoss is fine
[05-Aug-2008 15:33:49] <Gamekiller77> the second i start the website it pegs mysql
[05-Aug-2008 15:39:41] <cciewu> hmm
[05-Aug-2008 15:39:59] <cciewu> what do you mean start the website?
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:20] <Gamekiller77> gui
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:24] <Gamekiller77> the dmd
[05-Aug-2008 15:44:57] <cciewu> but i thought when you start the zenoss services the website is started already
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:10] <cciewu> do mean the first time you visit the page?
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:14] <Gamekiller77> when i log in to the site
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:26] <Gamekiller77> to display the protlets
[05-Aug-2008 15:45:29] <Gamekiller77> portlets
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:04] <Gamekiller77> i think zenwin is what is killing me hmm
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:37] <cciewu> check the log in the log directory for zenwin
[05-Aug-2008 15:46:47] <cciewu> also sec the logseverity for zenwin to 10
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:11] <Gamekiller77> is that the lowest
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:37] <cciewu> i was told it ws the highest by my predessor maybe he was wrong
[05-Aug-2008 15:47:40] <cciewu> not sure
[05-Aug-2008 15:48:03] <Gamekiller77> you know what i ask not i set my self as a admin for one server and unplugged it but i never got an e-mail and the e-mail test worked fine in my account profile
[05-Aug-2008 15:49:52] <cciewu> did you set an alert rule?
[05-Aug-2008 15:49:53] <Gamekiller77> yup i think it was zenwin now i have a ton of service that are red but are not running on the system
[05-Aug-2008 15:50:49] <cciewu> can you send screenshots?
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[05-Aug-2008 16:21:07] <cciewu> gamekiller any luck?
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:19] <Gamekiller77> i cleared out the events
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:25] <Gamekiller77> and going a bit faster
[05-Aug-2008 16:46:56] <Gamekiller77> still got massive timeouts on my zenoss issues porlet
[05-Aug-2008 16:47:41] <Gamekiller77> pretty much every daemon in the zenoss suit
[05-Aug-2008 16:55:55] <Gamekiller77> zenhub was not running odd
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:22] <Gamekiller77> ok rtfm for me
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:28] <Gamekiller77> i just looked at the logs
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:32] <Gamekiller77> what an idea
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:33] <Gamekiller77> 2008-08-04 11:45:44 ERROR zen.ZenModeler: Unable to fill collection slots: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.spread.pb.PBConnectionLost: [Failure instance: Traceback (failure with no frames): twisted.internet.error.ConnectionLost: Connection to the other side was lost in a non-clean fashion: Connection lost.
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:42] <Gamekiller77> no hell if ik now what that means
[05-Aug-2008 16:58:50] <Gamekiller77> now*
[05-Aug-2008 17:00:17] <Gamekiller77> i have aht error in half the daemons in zenoss
[05-Aug-2008 17:01:44] <cciewu> sorry i wasn't watching
[05-Aug-2008 17:02:55] <Gamekiller77> i have a lot of PBConnectionLost errors
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:42] <cciewu> what are those pbconnectlost?
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:50] <cciewu> bad cable?
[05-Aug-2008 17:04:54] <Gamekiller77> no
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:01] <Gamekiller77> there in the logs of the daemons
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:12] <cciewu> all daemons or just one?
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:23] <Gamekiller77> almost all of them
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:34] <Gamekiller77> zenwin zeneventlog
[05-Aug-2008 17:05:40] <Gamekiller77> all the main stuff to tracks
[05-Aug-2008 17:06:11] <Gamekiller77> look like it is a zenhub problem
[05-Aug-2008 17:21:24] <malbon> IoNu|z: Sorry, looks like I am gonig to take a bit longer for these templates.
[05-Aug-2008 17:21:32] <malbon> IoNu|z: I found a bug in core :(
[05-Aug-2008 17:22:32] <IoNu|z> oh :(
[05-Aug-2008 17:22:41] <IoNu|z> that`s fine take your time
[05-Aug-2008 17:39:44] <IoNu|z> how do i make zenoss to do checks more offten?
[05-Aug-2008 17:40:14] <IoNu|z> it says that the last check is over an hour ago... :(
[05-Aug-2008 17:47:54] <cciewu> what check are you talk about ion?
[05-Aug-2008 17:47:58] <cciewu> alert checks?
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:29] <IoNu|z> yes
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:36] <IoNu|z> like when you go to the device
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:44] <IoNu|z> it says when it was added
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:46] <IoNu|z> checked
[05-Aug-2008 17:54:51] <IoNu|z> and last change
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:46] <cciewu> hey ion
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:50] <cciewu> http://lists.zenoss.org/pipermail/zenoss-users/2007/004706.html
[05-Aug-2008 18:10:54] <cciewu> maybe that will help
[05-Aug-2008 18:27:36] <IoNu|z> isn`t that only for ping?
[05-Aug-2008 18:31:37] <IoNu|z> oh i don`t need to change it
[05-Aug-2008 18:31:44] <IoNu|z> it checks every 5 minutes by default
[05-Aug-2008 18:32:10] <IoNu|z> but i don`t understand why it checks only when i restart zen moddeler
[05-Aug-2008 19:57:51] <cciewu> from what i know zenmodeler is what finds and queueries machines.
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[05-Aug-2008 21:13:36] <malbon> IoNu|z: did you collect up what device types you have producing bad oid reports?
[05-Aug-2008 21:31:39] <IoNu|z> cisco 5300s
[05-Aug-2008 21:34:09] <malbon> nope, not the cisco model, but if you go into your device under the OS tab you have all the interfaces.
[05-Aug-2008 21:34:29] <malbon> choose one which is erroring (eg Voice Peer: 8) and see what type it is
[05-Aug-2008 21:37:44] <IoNu|z> i have "VLAN88" on host (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.28 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:38:24] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "T1 0" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.5 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:38:44] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "Voice Over IP Peer: 4444" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20.139 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:13] <IoNu|z> Error reading value for "Voice Over IP Peer: 500999" on (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.16.161 is bad)
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:17] <IoNu|z> they are like 625
[05-Aug-2008 21:39:47] <malbon> yes but in "T1 0" what type does it say it is?
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:25] <IoNu|z> that one is under IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:34] <IoNu|z> teh others are under Other :(
[05-Aug-2008 21:40:50] <malbon> hmm.
[05-Aug-2008 21:41:03] <malbon> My E1 0 is a 'ds2'
[05-Aug-2008 21:41:21] <malbon> what is your GigabitEthernet type?
[05-Aug-2008 21:42:06] <IoNu|z> what do you mean?
[05-Aug-2008 21:42:16] <IoNu|z> i have a T1 connected to it
[05-Aug-2008 21:44:22] <malbon> what I am trying to do is understand what type of template you need. So can you go into your T1 0 interface and see 3 broken graphs?
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[05-Aug-2008 21:45:56] <IoNu|z> i have 462 bad oids
[05-Aug-2008 21:46:38] <malbon> yes, I know you have 462 bad oid's but unless we get the types I can't help you really. so we have to do some prep work to get rid of these issues.
[05-Aug-2008 21:46:51] <IoNu|z> yes i have 3 broken graphs under the t1
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:07] <malbon> on that page at the top there is a table
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:21] <malbon> on the left hand column there is a field called type
[05-Aug-2008 21:47:26] <malbon> what is it's value?
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:12] <IoNu|z> componnet type?
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:30] <IoNu|z> for voice incapsulation is other
[05-Aug-2008 21:48:42] <IoNu|z> and for the t1 is IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:49:02] <IoNu|z> is this what you need?
[05-Aug-2008 21:50:07] <malbon> hang on a tick. let me find a picture in the manual, I don't have zenoss at home.
[05-Aug-2008 21:55:31] <IoNu|z> are you going to be online in 20 minutes?
[05-Aug-2008 21:55:56] <IoNu|z> i wan`t to go home and do teh rest from there
[05-Aug-2008 21:56:52] <malbon> nope
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:06] <IoNu|z> ok.. i`ll stay then :D
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:12] <IoNu|z> do you still have time to help me out?
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:50] <malbon> 4th row down left column in IpInterface
[05-Aug-2008 21:57:55] <malbon> called Type
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:08] <IoNu|z> oh
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:10] <IoNu|z> now i got you
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:11] <IoNu|z> ds1
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:44] <IoNu|z> and Voice Encapulation for the voice over ip
[05-Aug-2008 21:59:46] <malbon> collect all those, and PM me them on the forum.
[05-Aug-2008 22:00:27] <IoNu|z> ok
[05-Aug-2008 22:00:33] <IoNu|z> what`s your id on the forum?
[05-Aug-2008 22:01:37] <malbon> mikea
[05-Aug-2008 22:01:54] <malbon> anyhow gotta go. need some sleep.
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[06-Aug-2008 14:53:55] <IoNu|z> malbon you on?
[06-Aug-2008 14:58:07] <duncan> good morning Zenossians... question, I'm running 2.1.2 in production and we're moving to a newer server, should I be able to use zenbackup and zenrestore onto 2.2.3?
[06-Aug-2008 15:00:58] <cciewu> NOOOOOOOO
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:12] <cciewu> i just went through with this on my production 2.1.2
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:13] <cciewu> trust me
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:25] <cciewu> zenmigrate will fail miserably
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:33] <cciewu> check the forums for more info
[06-Aug-2008 15:01:50] <cciewu> i did this upgrade and then had to downgrade
[06-Aug-2008 15:02:05] <cciewu> the downgrade will break three zen services.
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:07] <duncan> cciewu: doh! glad I asked... is there a way to upgrade a fully populated and customized zen install to 2.2.3?
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:11] * nemo_ is glad he waits for you brave hears to do upgrades first !
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:15] <nemo_> hearts*
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:33] <cciewu> bastards :)
[06-Aug-2008 15:03:58] <cciewu> i'd probably setup some kind of duplicate of your prod env first
[06-Aug-2008 15:04:02] <cciewu> and do a test with it
[06-Aug-2008 15:04:04] * nemo_ nods
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:27] <cciewu> if you can't i'd setup maybe a smaller env with 2 machines snmp to zen test server
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:38] <cciewu> i know when i upgraded zenhub died and went to heaven
[06-Aug-2008 15:05:53] <cciewu> and nothing i did brought it back
[06-Aug-2008 15:07:21] <duncan> cciewu: are the developers aware of this bug? i'm greping through the forums now for more info
[06-Aug-2008 15:08:36] <cciewu> i'm guessing no because each env is so different
[06-Aug-2008 15:08:45] <cciewu> like i'm running on a remote mysql
[06-Aug-2008 15:10:19] <cciewu> that may not be the answer to why zenmigrate didn't work, but 2.1.2 zenbackup, be aware will kill your tmp directory
[06-Aug-2008 15:10:28] <cciewu> it'll try to get all your perf data into there
[06-Aug-2008 15:11:05] <cciewu> so make sure you have room or am mounting it somewhere else
[06-Aug-2008 15:14:29] <duncan> cciewu: I've run into that issue before, I just told zenbackup to not use the tmp folder and rather to use a folder with much more free space... the issue I'm concerned about is database structure changes..
[06-Aug-2008 15:15:15] <cciewu> did you edit the mysqldump statement in backup.py?
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:10] <cciewu> /duncan yeah i'd investigate whether zenmigrate will actually work first before going down that path
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:43] <duncan> cciewu: well since I'm moving to a different server, I'll have a hot spare =)
[06-Aug-2008 15:16:55] <cciewu> good idea
[06-Aug-2008 15:18:28] <nate187> hey guys, i have a quick question that i can't find an answer for in the docs
[06-Aug-2008 15:19:25] <nate187> I'm making a custom command template, what variable do i need to use to pass an interface's snmp index number?
[06-Aug-2008 15:23:02] <cciewu> you mean OID number?
[06-Aug-2008 15:25:33] <nate187> kinda, the interface index number - what it would tag on the end of the oid
[06-Aug-2008 15:25:52] <duncan> cciewu: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[06-Aug-2008 15:26:06] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:02] <cciewu> you can probably do a search for it
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:16] <cciewu> http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?objectInput=1.3.6.1.6.3.1.1.5.3&translate=Translate&submitValue=SUBMIT&submitClicked=true
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:32] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Cisco SNMP Object Navigator (at tools.cisco.com)
[06-Aug-2008 15:28:47] <cciewu> you'll see cisco's tree and just move on up and change the numbers that you need
[06-Aug-2008 15:29:55] <cciewu> duncan: i know those look easy and are great, but from a person that followed that document it needs to be re-written with a lot of warning and possible death signs
[06-Aug-2008 16:08:16] <C_Kode> How do I monitor a process on a machine other than the Zenoss server?
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:29] <malbon> IoNu|z: hi
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:47] <IoNu|z> good morning
[06-Aug-2008 16:15:58] <malbon> good afternoon. :)
[06-Aug-2008 16:16:02] <IoNu|z> :)
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:07] <IoNu|z> i tried to do some templates by7 myself
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:13] <malbon> and?
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:18] <IoNu|z> i copied the original template
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:25] <IoNu|z> renamed it ds1 for example
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:29] <IoNu|z> it took it
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:34] <IoNu|z> but i still don`t see any graphs
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:51] <IoNu|z> so i`m guessing that i need to change some oid`s?
[06-Aug-2008 16:17:57] <IoNu|z> in teh actual template?
[06-Aug-2008 16:18:48] <malbon> well actually you can't have graphs on those interfaces, as there is no performance data in ifMib
[06-Aug-2008 16:20:15] <IoNu|z> so i can`t have graph for the t1?
[06-Aug-2008 16:21:57] <IoNu|z> oh i c there is no ifindex for that
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:06] <IoNu|z> so it can`t check it
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:35] <malbon> indeed.
[06-Aug-2008 16:22:58] <malbon> well there probably is, but I haven't had time to look at the cisco specific mibs yet.
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:20] <IoNu|z> i have it in front of me and there isn`t
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:21] <IoNu|z> :))
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:39] <malbon> this change set is useful too as it gets rid of all the problem of the & in the template name http://dev.zenoss.com/trac/changeset/9821
[06-Aug-2008 16:23:46] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Changeset 9821 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:12] <malbon> you have *all* the cisco mibs loaded in your net-snmp?
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:34] <IoNu|z> nice
[06-Aug-2008 16:24:38] <IoNu|z> yes
[06-Aug-2008 16:25:56] <malbon> so I guess your doing a snmpwalk on enterprises to see that?
[06-Aug-2008 16:26:06] <IoNu|z> yes
[06-Aug-2008 16:26:21] <IoNu|z> i have a browser
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:03] <malbon> in windows or linux?
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:37] <IoNu|z> windows
[06-Aug-2008 16:27:59] <malbon> bah!
[06-Aug-2008 16:28:41] <IoNu|z> yeah i know
[06-Aug-2008 16:34:01] <nate187> Anyone know what variable to use in order to pass an interface's index number to a command? something like ${device/ifindex} ?
[06-Aug-2008 16:53:59] <IoNu|z> so malbon that should be it?
[06-Aug-2008 16:55:57] <IoNu|z> i have an another concern...
[06-Aug-2008 16:56:09] <IoNu|z> how do i make it check if the interface goes down?
[06-Aug-2008 17:00:49] <malbon> yeah that's a good question.
[06-Aug-2008 17:00:55] <malbon> you could use syslog :)
[06-Aug-2008 17:01:26] <IoNu|z> what are you using?
[06-Aug-2008 17:09:02] <malbon> we use snmp and syslog for up-down messages
[06-Aug-2008 17:09:18] <malbon> snmp for stats, and syslog for other stuff.
[06-Aug-2008 18:20:00] <IoNu|z> can you give me some hints on how to config some alarms for up/down?
[06-Aug-2008 18:32:25] <IoNu|z> malbon you still online?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:03] <duncan> whats the default username / password for the stack installer?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:06] <baffle> Is it only me that have problems installing ZenPacks or is this a "gernal" problem?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:12] <baffle> duncan: admin/zenoss I think?
[06-Aug-2008 19:16:20] <baffle> general
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:07] <duncan> baffle: thanks...
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:34] <baffle> I.e. the mib_utils .egg is "stuck", can't unisntall. (http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23402#23402). I try to install the CiscoIPSLA zenpack, and it complains "ValueError: Not a registered directory: /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/CiscoIPSLA/skins"... Gaaaah..
[06-Aug-2008 19:17:49] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Can't uninstall ZenPacks.community.mib_utils-1.04-py2.4.egg (at community.zenoss.com)
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:11] <IoNu|z> i have 2 types of interfaces named the same ... ethernetCsmacd
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:15] <IoNu|z> the ethernet
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:20] <IoNu|z> and the vlans....
[06-Aug-2008 19:28:48] <IoNu|z> so how do i make a separate template and make teh vlans use it?
[06-Aug-2008 19:40:17] <locohost> anyone monitor time?
[06-Aug-2008 19:40:23] <locohost> like, to make sure its in sync..
[06-Aug-2008 19:41:02] <IoNu|z> ntp?
[06-Aug-2008 19:41:30] <locohost> yeah, im using ntp. But something to actually check the time on everything and verify that it is in sync
[06-Aug-2008 19:42:25] <duncan> I just have snmpd check local processes I need to monitor with proc, should alert if they are absent
[06-Aug-2008 19:47:12] <BMDan> Okay, what's the Zenoss-y way to handle this? I've got an OID through which I publish a string, which is either "OK" or something else. I want to know if that OID is anything other than "OK". It represents the state of a RAID card, and it's a custom-rolled "pass" script in net-snmp, not something that has a MIB associated with it, so I can't just drop in a MIB from some vendor's website.
[06-Aug-2008 19:55:07] <npmccallum> Does the author of the improved linux zenpack hang out in here?
[06-Aug-2008 20:17:33] <baffle> locohost: No, I don't monitor that, but sounds like a good idea. But how would it work? Something like "if reportedtime <> 1 second from localtime, generate event"? :)
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:39] <BMDan> Should be (1 second + .5 * ping-reported RTT), no?
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:42] <baffle> BMDan: I was thinking about something simmilar, but more along the lines of "generate a trap from the client when this happens".. But then again, then the alerts are initated from the Client, so you never know if it is polled properly..
[06-Aug-2008 20:18:56] <locohost> yeah, something like that baffle
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:13] <locohost> vms seem to have time issues a lot
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:14] <BMDan> @baffle: Right. I'd much rather do direct polling rather than mess around with traps.
[06-Aug-2008 20:19:14] <__adytum-bot__> BMDan: Error: 'baffle:' is not a valid command.
[06-Aug-2008 20:20:45] <baffle> BMDan: We've started mucking around with modelling etc, but not for those kind of things. Only "solution" I've seen in the forums earlier, is to report "0" if it's OK, and "1" if it's not, and have a graph with treshold.. But that's so ugly I want to cry.
[06-Aug-2008 20:22:55] <baffle> What I'd really like to see, are *small* SNMP servers (that you can proxy requests to via net-snmp) from all major RAID vendors.
[06-Aug-2008 20:23:15] <baffle> Also, someone writing an SNMP->IPMI proxy would really be great too.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:24] <BMDan> baffle: SNMP->IPMI seems easy enough, depending on exactly what you want to expose.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:44] <BMDan> But all I want to do is something that I used to be able to do with a 2-line Bash plugin in Nagios.
[06-Aug-2008 20:26:53] <BMDan> I was vaguely under the impression Zenoss could use Nagios plugins...?
[06-Aug-2008 20:31:21] <duncan> my server has a limited amount of space in the /usr tree, so I have a 250gb raid0 partition to use for collecting performance data.. when I create a symbolic link to the perf folder, zenrestore gets rid of the link and tries to use the physical volume which isn't big enough.. argh
[06-Aug-2008 20:32:56] <baffle> BMDan: Yes, you can execute Nagios plugins on the (zenoss) server or on the client (via SSH).
[06-Aug-2008 20:33:05] <baffle> BMDan: So that kinda works.
[06-Aug-2008 20:33:39] <baffle> BMDan: We've written some Nagios-style checks for lots of stuff, actually. But I find it extremly ugly to allow SSH to the server + storing the password in ZenOss.
[06-Aug-2008 20:34:11] <baffle> duncan: Mount it there instead? :)
[06-Aug-2008 20:37:19] <baffle> BMDan: Well, sure, you can do something like "If I get polled on this OID, run ipmitool <some sensor> | awk | sed | cut".. But I want a small snmp-deamon/proxy that will poll all sensors, and generate a nice tree that fits a standard MIB (standard as in "IPMI.mib" or something).. And wich will poll all the interesting values on regular intervals and pushing them to a table, so that you don't have to do the poll when you get an SNMP GET; ipmi is dead slo
[06-Aug-2008 20:46:34] <BMDan> baffle: w/r/t Nagios-style checks, all I want is to wrap snmpget with an "if [ $(snmpget ...) == "OK" ]; then exit 0; else exit 1; fi
[06-Aug-2008 20:46:57] <BMDan> baffle: No ssh'ing involved.
[06-Aug-2008 20:48:27] <duncan> baffle: good one, man.. I suck at linux today lol
[06-Aug-2008 20:52:22] <baffle> BMDan: Well, write a Nagios plugin that does the snmpget, then. :)
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[07-Aug-2008 01:33:46] <crashdummyMCH> is it possible to set up an event when a new device is "auto-discovered"?
[07-Aug-2008 01:51:21] <IoNu|z> you mean setting the device for an template?
[07-Aug-2008 01:51:22] <IoNu|z> or?
[07-Aug-2008 01:56:38] <crashdummyMCH> no once a device is "auto-discovered" I would like to create an event to send an email
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[07-Aug-2008 05:10:11] <mistat> Anyone alive?
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:23] <mistat> On the dashboard, I'm seeing some errors for Zenoss Issues
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:30] <mistat> server zenhub -36576
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:36] <mistat> server zenmodeler -36591
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:44] <mistat> server zenactions -36532
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:50] <mistat> server zenstatus -36535
[07-Aug-2008 05:10:56] <mistat> Can anyone advise what this means?
[07-Aug-2008 11:57:55] troy_ is now known as troy
[07-Aug-2008 13:02:49] <C_Kode> Why do processes just disappear off the OS Process list?
[07-Aug-2008 13:04:37] <C_Kode> While I like Zenoss, it has to many issues. Installing a ZenPack is pretty much a prelude to errors.
[07-Aug-2008 13:40:58] nate is now known as nate187
[07-Aug-2008 15:17:59] <garn32> I have some Juniper SA-4000 that i am attempting to monitor with Zenoss 2.1.3 I have added the mib, created the datapoints, graphs, and verified that the box running zenoss is able to access the devices in question via snmp but zenoss is telling me:
[07-Aug-2008 15:18:19] <garn32> XXXXXXXXX|iveConcurrentUsers|/Perf/Snmp||2|Error reading value for \"iveConcurrentUsers\" on XXXXXXXXX (oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.12532.12 is bad)
[07-Aug-2008 15:19:09] <C_Kode> Im no Zenoss master, but are you using the correct snmp version?
[07-Aug-2008 15:19:30] <garn32> pertty sure sure both are running v2c
[07-Aug-2008 15:20:00] <C_Kode> Does everything look ok when you call snmpwalk with -v 2c?
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:35] <garn32> I just realized that i forgot to add the .0 to the end of the OID in zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:46] <C_Kode> Great.
[07-Aug-2008 15:21:52] <C_Kode> Hopefully that fixed your issue
[07-Aug-2008 15:23:48] <nate187> Where would I find where the <body> tag is being generated on pages? in order to add a javascript onload attribute
[07-Aug-2008 15:28:35] <shyru> hi all!
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:05] <shyru> anybody here!
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:13] <C_Kode> Nope
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:32] <garn32> not at all
[07-Aug-2008 15:29:56] <shyru> :(
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:36] <shyru> anybody know how to migrate from zenoss 2.13 to 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:54] <C_Kode> I think there is documentation about it
[07-Aug-2008 15:31:58] <C_Kode> On their website
[07-Aug-2008 15:32:29] <shyru> C_Kode, yeah i read, but its does not work for me :S
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:03] <C_Kode> Sorry. I know nothing about it, but if you ask I might magically know something that could help :)
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:35] <shyru> thanks :D
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:44] <C_Kode> Though I must say. I've been to this channel several times and have never received replies to problems I've had.
[07-Aug-2008 15:33:58] <C_Kode> Very dead channel
[07-Aug-2008 15:34:40] <shyru> C_Kode, uhhh
[07-Aug-2008 15:44:15] <shyru> C_Kode, i have 2 servers, rukia box had zenoss 2.1.3 and shinigami box had 2.2.3, but i need to shut off rukia and wake up shinigami like production, but rukia had all conf and i need to migrate conf to rukia from shinigami.
[07-Aug-2008 15:45:04] <shyru> do you understand me? Well i think, if i update rukia and restore her conf to shinigami box.
[07-Aug-2008 15:46:18] <SEJeff> Are you doing this on redhat/centos?
[07-Aug-2008 15:46:41] <shyru> SEJeff, centos
[07-Aug-2008 15:47:45] <SEJeff> http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/zenoss-upgrade-instructions/
[07-Aug-2008 15:47:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Upgrade Instructions - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 15:48:20] <shyru> :D thanks SEJeff i'm reading it!
[07-Aug-2008 15:48:34] <SEJeff> Basicly just make sure zenoss is running and install the new rpms
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:04] <SEJeff> There is a zenmigrate.py script if you were using the svn or installing zenoss from source
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:09] <SEJeff> The rpms should do that for you thought
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:26] <shyru> ok!
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:38] <shyru> let me check SEJeff!!!
[07-Aug-2008 15:49:39] <shyru> :D
[07-Aug-2008 16:18:38] <ToM-> Evening
[07-Aug-2008 16:20:12] <ToM-> I'd like to ask how is the Zenoss Agent progressing? As I don't want to loose any performance data or events even when the network is down. So a agent on target machines is needed to cache all the data zenoss wants to monitor
[07-Aug-2008 16:39:57] <jb> is anyone experiencing gaps in their graphs after upgrading to 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 16:59:29] <SEJeff> jb, Losing data in graphs is generally caused by system bottlenecks.
[07-Aug-2008 16:59:44] <SEJeff> jb, I've been tuning zenoss quite a bit and could help you with this if you are interested
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:44] <jb> well
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:48] <jb> the system is not under any stress at all
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:51] <jb> no iowait
[07-Aug-2008 17:01:56] <jb> no heavy cpu load
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:16] <jb> avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:16] <jb> 0.50 0.00 0.50 0.00 0.00 99.00
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:21] <jb> avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:22] <jb> 2.50 0.00 6.00 0.00 0.00 91.50
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:51] <SEJeff> With 1 second polling, I was seeing low io wait, <= 5 % with an 8 disk raid 10
[07-Aug-2008 17:02:56] <SEJeff> hmmm that looks pretty nice
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:04] <SEJeff> So could it be the network perhaps?
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:23] <SEJeff> Also, depending on how aggressively you are polling or how busy the devices are, some devices will drop snmp data
[07-Aug-2008 17:03:29] <SEJeff> s/data/requests/
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:17] <jb> hrm, well it worked fine with 2.2.0
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:23] <jb> no additional devices added with 2.2.3
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:25] <SEJeff> We noticed that foundry switches would drop snmp requests when they were overloaded
[07-Aug-2008 17:04:59] <jb> hm, when you run zenperfsnmp from the CLI, does it exit normally?
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:02] <jb> i notice that it hangs
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:14] <SEJeff> Perhaps you should strace it and see what it is blocking on
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:24] <SEJeff> Just do something like this:
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:37] <SEJeff> strace -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:05:57] <SEJeff> It will run a lot slower under strace just so you know
[07-Aug-2008 17:07:45] <jb> ok yeah thats the problem
[07-Aug-2008 17:07:51] <jb> it doesn't stop like that on my old box.
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:45] <SEJeff> Exactly why you should strace it
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:54] <SEJeff> Because you can tail the log and see where it is hanging
[07-Aug-2008 17:08:56] <jb> yep, doing that now.
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:00] <SEJeff> Probably on a poll, or select
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:08] <SEJeff> My guess is a select waiting for io. Maybe network?
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:21] <jb> i doubt it, but we will see :)
[07-Aug-2008 17:09:43] <SEJeff> Alright
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:00] <SEJeff> If you are ok with doing it, pastebin the strace log
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:06] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:10:10] <jb> its running now..
[07-Aug-2008 17:11:40] <jb> yeah it hangs periodically
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:27] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094894
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:32] <jb> theres an example..
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:35] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1094894 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:13:38] <jb> it was stuck there for about a minute
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:09] <SEJeff> The select... exactly. Waiting on a socket probably. Lets look
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:30] <jb> yep, everytime it stalls, its on a SELECT
[07-Aug-2008 17:14:54] <SEJeff> Thats common
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:02] <jb> how would you further diagnose it
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:02] <SEJeff> Ok so can you pastebin the whole thing?
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:07] <jb> not done yet :)
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:09] <jb> its gonna be quite large
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:23] <SEJeff> Line 206: 21708 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {86, 492990}
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:31] <SEJeff> Ok how about this
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:35] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:39] <SEJeff> break out of that and rm strace.log
[07-Aug-2008 17:15:49] <jb> K
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:05] <SEJeff> Then try this
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:15] <SEJeff> strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:26] <SEJeff> Then let it go to the first time it hangs and then break out
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:30] <SEJeff> pastebin that log
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:31] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:16:42] <SEJeff> In the previous one I couldn't see what file descriptor it was hanging on
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:02] <SEJeff> the select said fd 5, but you didn't include enough of the log to see what fd 5 was. Make sense?
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:18] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:42] <SEJeff> Just "man select" to see how it is being called. All of those functions have man pages
[07-Aug-2008 17:17:43] <BMDan> Just grep the strace: grep -E 'open.*= 5$'
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:14] <SEJeff> BMDan, I think it is a socket, not a file. We'll find out in a minute
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:15] <BMDan> Actually FD 5 is the notify FD there.
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:23] <SEJeff> You're right
[07-Aug-2008 17:18:37] <BMDan> You probably want 3 and 4.
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:00] <BMDan> I've never seen the [3 4] syntax in strace before; is that how it represents arrays?
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:05] <SEJeff> jb, You can also find out what those fds are with lsof while the process is running
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:09] <BMDan> well, not technically "arrays"...
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:10] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yup
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:21] <BMDan> struct fd_set *readfds
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:31] * BMDan slinks back into his corner.
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:35] <jb> ok hm
[07-Aug-2008 17:19:39] <SEJeff> heh
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:05] <SEJeff> You could also freeze the process while it is running and beat on it with lsof to see what it is doing
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:15] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094899
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:17] <SEJeff> With that + strace you should be able to mostly reverse engineer what is happening
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:19] <jb> it was stuck here for a bit..
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:24] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 1094899 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:42] <SEJeff> Is it still running?
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:45] <jb> yes
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:46] <SEJeff> If so CTRL Z
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:50] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:20:53] <SEJeff> That freezes the process
[07-Aug-2008 17:21:28] <SEJeff> "ps -efH" to show a treeview of the process table. Then find the strace and the python instance with zenperfsnmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:21:51] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:09] <SEJeff> hmmmm can you paste the entire log please?
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:32] <jb> its 19MB
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:46] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:47] <SEJeff> Ok nevermind :)
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:51] <jb> i can if you would like? :)
[07-Aug-2008 17:22:58] <SEJeff> Ok here is what I'd like you to do
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:04] <BMDan> Or ls -l /proc/$(pidof <processname>)/fd
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:18] <SEJeff> lsof hides that all from you though :)
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:20] <BMDan> Easier than lsof, and gives you the fd numbers (not sure if lsof does that, does it?)
[07-Aug-2008 17:23:58] <SEJeff> BMDan, yes it does
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:36] <SEJeff> Shameless plug to a blog I wrote on lsof: http://digitalprognosis.com/blog/2008/02/14/troubleshooting-running-systems-with-lsof/
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:50] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Troubleshooting running systems with lsof - Open Source Awareness (at digitalprognosis.com)
[07-Aug-2008 17:24:52] <SEJeff> Look towards the bottom of the lsof of init
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:06] <SEJeff> init 1 root 10u FIFO 0,13 1108 /dev/initctl
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:17] <SEJeff> It has /dev/initctl open at fd10
[07-Aug-2008 17:25:55] <BMDan> Bah, but I can't budge around in /proc if I use a fancy-schmancy tool like lsof, now can I? ;)
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:16] <SEJeff> BMDan, And notice the very last trick which is a poor mans lsof in that blog posting
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:17] <BMDan> Back in mah day, we loaded a kernel module if we wanted to see open descriptors. And we liked it!
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:24] <SEJeff> awk '/\//{print $NF}' /proc/1/maps | sort -u
[07-Aug-2008 17:26:50] <SEJeff> And wrote binary straight to stdin, we know :)
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:00] <SEJeff> jb, So anyways, here is the gameplan...
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:25] <SEJeff> Run strace until it hangs. Since it is hanging on select, it is waiting on io somewhere
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:33] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:34] <SEJeff> As soon as it hangs, CTRL Z to freeze the process
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:51] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:53] <jb> did that
[07-Aug-2008 17:27:58] <jb> 22880 12:27:24 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {234, 888653}
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:00] <SEJeff> Then you can find the pid and ls -l /proc/<pid>/fd or lsof -p <pid>
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:20] <jb> the pid of zenperfsnmp?
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:26] <SEJeff> We are trying to find out what fd 3 and fd4 are. BMDan is just showing the old peopel way to do it :)
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:34] <SEJeff> jb the pid of what is being strace'd
[07-Aug-2008 17:28:38] <BMDan> Is it bas that I can type this off the top of my head? /bin/echo -e '\033[1;1H\033[2J' #poor man's clear
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:00] <SEJeff> I don't have 2.2.3 up right now but something in the changelog I recall was switching from python snmp to net-snmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:15] <SEJeff> Thats why we did strace -f, I think it forks off snmpget or snmpwalk and we need to see
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:28] <SEJeff> lol @ BMDan. That is impressive
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:52] <SEJeff> jb, So after zenperfsnmp is frozen, run "ps -efH" to get a tree view process listing
[07-Aug-2008 17:29:57] <BMDan> Last one, I promise: strace -fF might give you even more info, if you're in the mood for pain. Now, lemme see if I can craft some Perl for you...
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:02] <SEJeff> Find zenperfsnmp
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:12] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yeah, but that is pretty nuts
[07-Aug-2008 17:30:37] <SEJeff> jb, find zenperfsnmp and then see if their are any child processes. Do you see anything? If so, can you paste the output of ps?
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:05] <jb> 22128
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:06] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22127 21687 3 12:16 pts/1 00:00:24 strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22128 22127 1 12:16 pts/1 00:00:13 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:15] <jb> zenoss 22879 21687 11 12:26 pts/1 00:00:28 strace -t -f -o strace.log zenperfsnmp run -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:16] <jb> zenoss 22880 22879 6 12:26 pts/1 00:00:17 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:19] <jb> ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:31:59] <SEJeff> jb, You compiled this yourself?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:02] <jb> nope
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:08] <jb> stack installer uses /usr/local/zenoss
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:20] <SEJeff> uggg. Debian?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:22] <jb> nope
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:24] <jb> cent5
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:29] <SEJeff> Why not use the rpms?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:34] <SEJeff> Much easier to manage that way
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:43] <jb> the stack is the preferred method?
[07-Aug-2008 17:32:50] <jb> i did use RPM's, but switched to the Stack installer
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:10] <SEJeff> I don't work for zenoss. From a management perspective rpms are much easier. It doesn't matter though
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:16] <jb> yeah :(
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:18] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:30] <SEJeff> Can you paste that in pastebin or something
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:40] <SEJeff> Sorry it is hard to look at in irc with messed up linebreaks
[07-Aug-2008 17:33:55] <jb> sure
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:00] <jb> http://pastebin.ca/1094908
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 1094908 (at pastebin.ca)
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:12] <jb> hrm.. two straces
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:32] <SEJeff> Ok so you have two
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:35] <SEJeff> Type jobs
[07-Aug-2008 17:34:44] <SEJeff> You probably have two frozen ones, no biggy
[07-Aug-2008 17:35:30] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:35:50] <SEJeff> Kill the top one
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:00] <SEJeff> As the second one likely overwrote the log from the first
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:16] <jb> Ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:36:57] <SEJeff> then run lsof -p 22880 | less
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:10] <jb> k
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:20] <SEJeff> In the FD column, you are looking for the fds in the second argument in the select statement from the strace
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:24] <SEJeff> Do you understand why we are doing this?
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:48] <jb> to match the FDs
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:52] <jb> and see what that FD was doing
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:55] <jb> at the time that it hung?
[07-Aug-2008 17:37:57] <SEJeff> ok good
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:11] <jb> 22880 12:27:24 select(5, [3 4], [], [], {234, 888653}
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:12] <SEJeff> Well you froze it at the exact time it hung, so it should be in the same state
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:12] <SEJeff> Yes
[07-Aug-2008 17:38:18] <SEJeff> So fd3 and fd4
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:37] <jb> .python.b 22880 zenoss 3u IPv4 55106070 TCP localhost.localdomain:36961->localhost.localdomain:8789 (ESTABLISHED)
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:37] <jb> .python.b 22880 zenoss 4r FIFO 0,6 55106060 pipe
[07-Aug-2008 17:39:41] <jb> i think thats it?
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:02] <SEJeff> Ok that is 3, what about 4
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:10] <SEJeff> Oh wait, yeah that is it
[07-Aug-2008 17:40:53] <jb> hm
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:44] <jb> so its TCP related
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:49] <jb> that one anyways
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:50] <SEJeff> Yup
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:57] <SEJeff> Likely something zenoss internal
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:58] <jb> but its connecting to its self?
[07-Aug-2008 17:41:59] <jb> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:16] <SEJeff> Might be something like zenperfsnmp talking to zenhub or something like that
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:25] <jb> ok
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:27] <SEJeff> now look through $ZENHOME/logs and see if you can find anything crazy
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:32] <jb> will do
[07-Aug-2008 17:42:32] <SEJeff> This might take some time to track down
[07-Aug-2008 17:47:56] <SEJeff> Can you do: ps -efH | egrep '[2]2880'
[07-Aug-2008 17:48:17] <SEJeff> It will probably be zenperfsnmp, but just it might not be
[07-Aug-2008 17:49:06] <jb> zenoss@fc-zenoss01:~$ ps -efH | egrep '[2]2880'
[07-Aug-2008 17:49:06] <jb> zenoss 22880 22879 1 12:26 pts/1 00:00:17 /usr/local/zenoss/python/bin/.python.bin /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/Products/ZenRRD/zenperfsnmp.py --configfile /usr/local/zenoss/zenoss/etc/zenperfsnmp.conf -v1
[07-Aug-2008 17:50:01] <SEJeff> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 17:50:41] <SEJeff> hmmmmm. This is a zenoss internal issue. You should probably file a bug and / or shoot an email to the list
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:06] <BMDan> If you attach gdb to the process, you can see the call stack.
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:11] <BMDan> That might illuminate the issue a bit further.
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:38] <SEJeff> BMDan, Yes, but gdb of python is a bit extreme when a zenoss dev should be able to figure it out, right?
[07-Aug-2008 17:56:39] <BMDan> Admittedly, it'll be a call stack rooted in bytecode, but the bytecode comes back out and calls "real" functions, so you'll still be pulling good data.
[07-Aug-2008 17:57:44] <BMDan> SEJeff: *everything* I do is "a bit extreme". There is no systems administration problem that cannot be resolved by the direct application of thermonuclear weaponry.
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:37] <SEJeff> Or a really big hammer
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:49] <BMDan> Old story, but a goodie:
[07-Aug-2008 17:58:58] <BMDan> Large IBM machine was malfunctioning.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:03] <BMDan> On-site developers tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:08] <BMDan> On-site sysadmins tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:15] <BMDan> Contractors tried to fix.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:30] <SEJeff> all failed /me assumes
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:35] <BMDan> Yep.
[07-Aug-2008 17:59:56] <BMDan> Finally, they had to call IBM, even though their support contract had expired. They bought a 1-incident on-site support contract for $10,000.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:11] <BMDan> The IBM guy flew out, listened to each of the groups explain the problem and what they'd done to try to solve it.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:29] <BMDan> Approached the malfunctioning part in question, reared back, and gave it a mighty kick.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:34] <BMDan> The system immediately began working.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:47] <BMDan> He then asked for the check to be sent, and prepared to leave.
[07-Aug-2008 18:00:55] <BMDan> The owners stopped him.
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:07] <BMDan> "But all you did is kick the box!" they protested.
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:27] <BMDan> "Yes," he replied. "But you didn't pay me $10,000 to kick the box. You paid me $10,000 to know WHERE to kick the box."
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:46] <SEJeff> Thats why we get paid
[07-Aug-2008 18:01:52] <SEJeff> Do you work for zenoss?
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:11] <BMDan> Nope. We're evaluating Zenoss right now. Gotta say, as compared to Nagios, I'm not impressed thus far.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:20] <SEJeff> How come?
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:31] <BMDan> Lots of extra features, as long as you do *exactly* what the Zenoss developers envisioned you doing.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:47] <BMDan> As soon as you branch outside of that framework, things become obtuse as hell.
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:50] <SEJeff> It does things VERY differently. My initial thought was to roll out nagios + cacti and be done with it
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:54] <SEJeff> But you can script it all...
[07-Aug-2008 18:02:59] <SEJeff> zendmd is the holy grail of monitoring
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:01] <BMDan> I don't want to define a MIB just to monitor a single OID.
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:09] <SEJeff> What are you talking about?
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:12] <SEJeff> You dont have to
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:14] <BMDan> I just want to execute a @#($$ snmpget.
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:17] <BMDan> orly?
[07-Aug-2008 18:03:28] <BMDan> Tell me more, I was trying to get this answer yesterday and they told me, "Tough luck."
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:16] <SEJeff> for monitoring or for trending
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:26] <SEJeff> And if you prefer the nagios way, you can call snmpget directly
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:29] <SEJeff> fyi
[07-Aug-2008 18:04:34] <C_Kode> Why do OS Processes that you are moniting just disappear sometimes?
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:18] <BMDan> I just want to know whether a certain OID reads "OK". It's a custom "pass" script from net-snmp's snmpd.conf, so there is no associated MIB, or documentation, or anything else, it's just something I threw together on top of the vendor's RAID controller CLI.
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:47] <SEJeff> Let me guess, MegaCLI
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:54] <nate187> Has anyone tried adding a radar image overlay to the maps?
[07-Aug-2008 18:05:59] <BMDan> SEJeff: ??? No.
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:04] <SEJeff> Ok nvm
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:24] <Nolar> anybody know if remote collectors are avail in Core, or just enterprise edition?
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:25] <SEJeff> You could create a /Cmd/Fail event and have it run the check exactly like you would do in nagios
[07-Aug-2008 18:06:33] <BMDan> SEJeff: Google "tw_bm cacti".
[07-Aug-2008 18:07:55] <SEJeff> gotcha
[07-Aug-2008 18:08:29] <jatindergiri> Hello, I am new zenoss, I installed net-snmp on fedora and zenoss is already picking up all the system status, now I am trying to figure out how to graph bandwidth usage?
[07-Aug-2008 18:10:45] <mrayzenoss> Nolar: you can do remote collectors like this: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/setting-up-multiple-zenperfsnmp-collectors-across-different-hosts
[07-Aug-2008 18:10:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Setting up multiple zenperfsnmp collectors across different hosts - Commercial Open Source Network, Systems and Application Monitoring - Zenoss (at www.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 18:11:49] <Nolar> mrayzenoss huzzah! thanks
[07-Aug-2008 18:12:15] <mrayzenoss> jatindergiri: Does your router expose bandwidth info via SNMP? That's a way
[07-Aug-2008 18:13:21] <jatindergiri> well it's fedora
[07-Aug-2008 18:15:06] <mrayzenoss> so you want to monitor what exactly?
[07-Aug-2008 18:15:13] <mrayzenoss> current bandwidth usage?
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:07] <jatindergiri> yeah
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:17] <jatindergiri> in and out
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:48] <jatindergiri> I guess i can do it from switch , but i was wondering if i could directly form OS
[07-Aug-2008 18:16:53] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, I'm the annoying Jeff guy that emails you. Hi :)
[07-Aug-2008 18:18:41] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: greetings. I realized I hadn't checked in here enough, there's always too much to do
[07-Aug-2008 18:19:47] <mrayzenoss> jatindergiri: It seems like there should already be a solution for this, you could probably configure your snmpd to expose the information. But the switch is easier
[07-Aug-2008 18:20:42] <mrayzenoss> SEJeff: I'm looking for a good answer to why you can't make a Trac account
[07-Aug-2008 18:20:53] <mrayzenoss> that seems dumb, I thought you could
[07-Aug-2008 18:21:50] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, I've asked chet about it also during our enterprise eval
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:12] <SEJeff> They want a shared zenoss user, but that is silly. Did the reason in that email make sense why?
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:14] <mrayzenoss> did he have an answer?
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:25] <mrayzenoss> I agree that the shared Zenoss user is silly
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:33] <SEJeff> It was a fleeting comment made during another problem he did an excellent job fixing
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:43] <SEJeff> Probably just forgot. That guy is overworked
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:48] <mrayzenoss> it's not like we don't know who everyone in the company is
[07-Aug-2008 18:22:54] <mrayzenoss> yeah, Chet's got a new baby
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:05] <SEJeff> Oh wow. Well even moreso
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:17] <mrayzenoss> and he's been given more responsibility recently
[07-Aug-2008 18:23:39] <mrayzenoss> those Client Services guys work hard, I hope Nathaniel says he's enjoying it :)
[07-Aug-2008 18:25:51] <SEJeff> yeah he is
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:06] <monrad> anyone seen 10g interfaces being reported as 1.410Gbps in 2.2.3?
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:44] <monrad> snmp version is v2c
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:53] <mrayzenoss> monrad: yeah, I can't remember if the fix is for 2.2.4
[07-Aug-2008 18:31:59] <mrayzenoss> monrad: there's a ticket somewhere for that
[07-Aug-2008 18:32:31] <monrad> mrayzenoss: thanks
[07-Aug-2008 18:32:48] <monrad> i finally got myself a test server to try stuff on
[07-Aug-2008 18:33:01] <monrad> so now i can test stuff before upgrading :)
[07-Aug-2008 18:35:02] <MajereDB8> hi, i just wanted to drop by and see if anyone had made any progress on the zenpop3 module. i remember from the last dev chat that it was not a high priority, but it never hurts to ask :-)
[07-Aug-2008 18:36:09] <mrayzenoss> MajereDB8: I don't believe I've seen anything on that
[07-Aug-2008 18:39:20] <MajereDB8> mrayzenoss: i had made a post on the dev board a few weeks ago. pjp13 posted a working fix a while ago for one of the problems i encountered, but it the rest are still up in the air. see here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6677
[07-Aug-2008 18:39:40] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Forums :: View topic - Zenpop3 errors - unable to generate e-mail event (at community.zenoss.com)
[07-Aug-2008 18:41:36] <monrad> mrayzenoss: is there any plans for rrdtool 1.3 yet?
[07-Aug-2008 18:42:06] <MajereDB8> i'm sure that you all have plenty on your plate, but i'm pretty excited about this program because if combined with the zenackevents module that edahl posted on trac, it would allow me to monitor and acknowledge events via my cell phone
[07-Aug-2008 18:42:55] <mrayzenoss> monrad: I believe it's still listed for 2.3
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:03] <monrad> nice
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:14] <mrayzenoss> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/ticket/3341
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:23] <__adytum-bot__> Title: #3341 (upgrade to new version of RRDtool) - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:30] <monrad> at least 4 and 8 gb ram sticks are getting cheap :)
[07-Aug-2008 18:43:42] <mrayzenoss> monrad: it hasn't been reviewed yet, but I don't know why we wouldn't upgrade
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:20] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, whoa please link me on that one
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:38] <monrad> we found out 4 gb of ram was not enough for monitoring around 1K switches
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:41] <monrad> lots of oids
[07-Aug-2008 18:44:43] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: it's actually not that complicated. most telcos provide smtp to sms gateways
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:32] <MajereDB8> the zenackevents program is on trac - revision 8250. it's just a python program that you can use to acknowledge a given zenoss event. so you can write an event transform to acknowledge an e-mail
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:39] <jb> Ok, sorry had to run out for a bit.
[07-Aug-2008 18:45:51] <MajereDB8> the problem is that zenpop3, which does event transforms upon receiving an e-mail, needs some work.
[07-Aug-2008 18:46:08] <jb> mrayzenoss: hey, did you happen to see the issue that I (and some others have had) with zenperfsnmp?
[07-Aug-2008 18:47:10] <mrayzenoss> jb: possibly. I'm still catching up from vacation. Is it the one about ZenHub stopping monitoring?
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:35] <jb> mrayzenoss: well, it stemmed from me having large gaps in my perfgraphs.. when I run zenperfsnmp it randomly hangs
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:40] <jb> which I assume is making the gaps
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:50] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, You can't do that with evt._action = ...
[07-Aug-2008 18:48:51] <jb> and it hangs on a TCP connection to its self
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:05] <mrayzenoss> jb: thread?
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:09] <mrayzenoss> O
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:20] <SEJeff> Just a sec
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:21] <mrayzenoss> I'm looking at 260 unread posts in Zenoss-Users
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:23] <jb> sec
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:25] <SEJeff> We did a lot of troubleshooting here on irc
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:29] <jb> im still doing some diagnosing
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:34] <jb> but most of it is on irc, yeah
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:37] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Want me to copy / paste it to you somewhere?
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:45] <jb> there is a thread in the forums though
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:50] <jb> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23452#23452
[07-Aug-2008 18:49:55] <SEJeff> Or are the #zenoss logs from zenoss-logger public?
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:10] <mrayzenoss> the logs usually show up a month late
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:30] <mrayzenoss> another thing to fix on the community website :)
[07-Aug-2008 18:50:52] <jb> along with the horrendus speed? :)
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:02] <mrayzenoss> no doubt, it's acting slow
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:04] <telexicon> im considering trying zenoss again, has the stability improved lately?
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:13] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: what can't you do with evt.action? sorry, i'm not following you
[07-Aug-2008 18:51:49] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Why do you need a new daemon. Can't you do something like evt._action = "acknowledged" or something?
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:07] <SEJeff> That isn't exact. I use evt._action = "drop" on a bunch of whitenoise
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:29] <mrayzenoss> jb: I'll get this looked at, I think there was some discussion around it at the bug review this morning
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:36] <jb> ah good
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:40] <jb> im doing more diagnostics now
[07-Aug-2008 18:52:46] <jb> and I will post my results in that thread
[07-Aug-2008 18:53:22] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: oh, sure. zenackevents can acknowledge any event id, which makes it easier.
[07-Aug-2008 18:54:52] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Can you give me an example of how it can do something a normal transform can't? Sorry
[07-Aug-2008 18:54:56] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, http://www.digitalprognosis.com/zenoss-chat-log-with-jb.txt
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:25] <MajereDB8> SEJeff: it's also a way to acknowledge events from the command line. i think that's the main reason he wrote the app, it was just timely when i brought up the point
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:28] <SEJeff> mrayzenoss, Save that off if you want to look at it. It will be deleted in ~10 minutes
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:43] <SEJeff> MajereDB8, Yeah that is a pretty big deal
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> SEJeff: did it again..
[07-Aug-2008 18:55:45] <jb> .python.b 28167 zenoss 3u IPv4 55161055 TCP localhost.localdomain:39052->localhost.localdomain:8789 (ESTABLISHED