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[01-Apr-2008 00:04:08] <Ozux> damon, Sub interfaces? Is there and doc|man for this?
[01-Apr-2008 00:09:57] <damon> if you are running apache on a nix environment, you may want to create sub interfaces that you can attach each vhost too so that you can grab the traffic counters off of the interface
[01-Apr-2008 00:10:34] <damon> if its a windows box, you may be able to pull the information you are looking for right from wmi
[01-Apr-2008 00:12:36] <Ozux> damon, i use debian and centos, but unfortunately we use plesk and cpanel so i think using this method is not possible, is it?
[01-Apr-2008 00:15:12] <Ozux> and , do i need specific ip for eatch sub-interface?
[01-Apr-2008 00:17:00] <damon> ozux, i haven't dealt much with cpanel/plesk, but i would think that you would be able to rig something up. yes, you would need an ip for each sub interface
[01-Apr-2008 00:18:49] <damon> anyone know where a copmlete list of TALES device attributes could be found. i am looking specifically for the Tag attribute
[01-Apr-2008 00:21:07] <Ozux> damon, It's good solution, may be for Gold customers. But for 3000 custommers, writing new app is better than buying 3000 Valid IP ;-)
[01-Apr-2008 00:24:14] <damon> ozux - thats alot of sites - not sure on your infrastructure and application design etc, you might nat, vlan or share the ips
[01-Apr-2008 00:25:58] <damon> we have exclusivly a windows environment in our web farm (aside from my zenoss box), so if there is another way with apache i wouldn't be able to help
[01-Apr-2008 00:26:53] <Ozux> mmm, vlan is best, if i can't find software,script or solution i should dirty my hands with vlan and sub interfaces ;-)
[01-Apr-2008 00:26:56] <damon> ...so needless to say i am happy zenoss won't run on windows or i am sure management would force my hand to switch platforms
[01-Apr-2008 00:29:11] <damon> ok, well good luck with that -one nice thing about the whole virtual paradigm, - quick and easy to setup test labs and experiment
[01-Apr-2008 00:29:32] <damon> Ozux - are you doing any asset management with zenoss?
[01-Apr-2008 00:30:28] <Ozux> damon, in fact no, ZenOSS is Pilot project, We are testing ZenOSS, Zabbix and Nagios for our Nexet,Central solution
[01-Apr-2008 00:30:39] <Ozux> s/Nexet/next
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:12] <Ozux> mow we have lots of cacti and mrtg and home-made scripts and awstat
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:20] <Ozux> s/mow/now
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:30] <Ozux> and managing all of them is impossible!
[01-Apr-2008 00:31:40] <damon> i see. yeah i can imagine!
[01-Apr-2008 00:32:26] <damon> have you seen zenoss's httpmonitor zenpak?
[01-Apr-2008 00:51:14] <Ozux> it monitor whole http transfer _i think_
[01-Apr-2008 01:01:23] <damon> it works really nice for websites: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor
[01-Apr-2008 01:01:39] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Apr-2008 01:02:23] <damon> interesting little bot...
[01-Apr-2008 11:10:56] <hanthana> guys can we set alarms for zenoss?
[01-Apr-2008 11:12:43] <DarkMats> Under preferences there are alerting rules. Is that what you're after?
[01-Apr-2008 11:15:43] <sajithr> Is ZenOSS fail to monitor processes that has long command paths (i.e. java) using REGEX?
[01-Apr-2008 11:15:56] <sajithr> can somebody help me with this?
[01-Apr-2008 15:47:47] <Bulwinkle> does anyone know anything about creating a page with several graphs on it?
[01-Apr-2008 15:57:20] <sajithr> is anybody know why ZenOSS's regex used to monitor processes are not behave as same as regex used with grep?
[01-Apr-2008 15:58:37] <Bulwinkle> sajithr: because it is Python Regex
[01-Apr-2008 16:08:04] <sajithr> ok..thanks..
[01-Apr-2008 16:09:40] <sajithr> Bulwinkle, Is ZenOSS can't evaluate regex across long command name (i.e java processes) while monitoring processes?
[01-Apr-2008 16:10:15] <Bulwinkle> sajithr: it should be able to evaluate any expression
[01-Apr-2008 16:16:48] <jberry> Hey, can anybody give me pointers on setting up httpmonitor? I've looked through the howto, but keep running into brickwalls
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[01-Apr-2008 17:24:24] <Funky_> Anyone ever try to set up thresholds from JMX data sources?
[01-Apr-2008 17:29:30] <jberry> Man, I gotta say, I completely cringe every time I try to use zenoss. I find the interface completely non-intuitive. It's never clear what I need to change where to make something work. It's like poking in the mud with stick.
[01-Apr-2008 17:32:33] <Funky_> jberry, try using the zenpacks :/
[01-Apr-2008 17:33:40] <jberry> Funky_: I'm trying to use the httpmonitor zenpack, but unclear how to proceed. The howto talks itself in circles without saying what to do.
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:03] <jberry> Can you give me any clues?
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:25] <jberry> I'm stuck on the paragraph "Complications" http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/howtos/monitoring-websites-with-httpmonitor/
[01-Apr-2008 17:34:33] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Monitoring websites with HttpMonitor - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[01-Apr-2008 17:35:00] <jberry> thanks, adytum-bot: yup. that's the page alright ;)
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:07] <Funky_> jberry, i haven't used it sorry... I'm still trying to get the zenjmx pack to work
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:26] <jberry> ah, I see, another fellow sufferer.
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:42] <Funky_> just a warning
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:54] <jberry> And just to think that jmx was next on my list after I got the simple thing of trying to monitor http done.
[01-Apr-2008 17:36:55] <Funky_> there is hardly anyone in here that actually helps out much
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:05] <Funky_> and it takes days to get any kind of answer on the forums
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:15] <Funky_> that's IF you get an answer
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:26] <jberry> damn, maybe I should give up on zenoss
[01-Apr-2008 17:37:37] <Funky_> I'm trying to convince my boss of the same thing...
[01-Apr-2008 17:38:35] <Funky_> but in all honesty aside from the massive amounts of bugs zenoss is one of the more interesting monitoring apps
[01-Apr-2008 17:39:26] <jberry> Hmm. Too bad it's usage model is unpentrable by me and its documentation seems to suck so badly.
[01-Apr-2008 17:39:55] <jberry> Can you tell I'm frustrated? ;)
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:07] <Funky_> I'm just as frustrated I can assure you
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:18] <Funky_> I think the docs were written by someone who's first language isn't english
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:28] <Funky_> some sentances don't even make sense
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:37] <Funky_> but the model isn't too bad
[01-Apr-2008 17:40:44] <Funky_> it's an inheritence based model
[01-Apr-2008 17:41:12] <Funky_> I actually think that's one of the thigns zenoss does well (when it works)
[01-Apr-2008 17:41:27] <jberry> I get that feeling, but the interface doesn't really reflect the inheritence, so it's hard to figuure it out.
[01-Apr-2008 17:42:00] <Funky_> i agree
[01-Apr-2008 17:42:29] <Funky_> the correlation between events, classes and eventmappings etc are not very apparent
[01-Apr-2008 18:07:30] <Dittohead> Hi, I'm getting the following two errors in my ZenWinModeler log: "ERROR_NET_WRITE_FAULT: A write fault occurred on the network. (88)" & "WARNING zen.zenwinmodeler: skipping [$SERVER] has bad wmi state" The login details are correctly set in zProperties. Thanks!
[01-Apr-2008 18:49:50] <jp10558> jberry: what is the question on Complications for HTTPMonitor?
[01-Apr-2008 18:50:08] <jp10558> I recently started using that zenpack and have it working pretty well for *simple* monitoring
[01-Apr-2008 18:55:58] <jberry> jp10558: thanks for the reply. The how to for httpmonitor contains a section on "complications" (which I appear to fall into).
[01-Apr-2008 18:56:13] <jberry> But the suggestion on how to deal with the complications fly over my head, as a newbie.
[01-Apr-2008 18:56:57] <jberry> While it looks like I might be able to get through the howto in normal terms, I can't figure out how to approach the workarounds that are vaguely suggested in the howto.
[01-Apr-2008 18:57:20] <jberry> Any thoughts?
[01-Apr-2008 19:00:54] <jp10558> Well, I guess the first question is - what complication are you expecting to run into?
[01-Apr-2008 19:02:39] <jberry> That howto says that if I'm monitoring a website www.example.com, and if monitor that same server for other factors as foo.example.com, that I'll get errors, and that I need to take a completely different approach than what's described in the howto, which is where I get lost.
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:04] <jp10558> Oh
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:05] <jp10558> ok
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:16] <jp10558> that's actually dead easy to do, just mostly forget the HowTo
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:31] <jberry> and...do what?
[01-Apr-2008 19:04:51] <jp10558> Well, most of the how to is right, but really - the complications section seems wrong
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:00] <jp10558> all you have to do is install the zenpack
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:08] <jberry> okay, htat's done.
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:13] <jp10558> and figure out how you want to apply it to machines
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:20] <jberry> don't know how to do that.
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:20] <jp10558> this may be what they're trying to talk about
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:36] <jp10558> It comes down to what class (group) you want to use here
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:40] <jp10558> so if, you have for instance
[01-Apr-2008 19:05:58] <jp10558> Device/Server/Linux
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:05] <jp10558> right...
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:09] <jberry> sure
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:12] <jp10558> and not all the systems are web systems
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:17] <jp10558> you'd normally create a subclass
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:24] <jp10558> Device/Server/Linux/Web
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:25] <jp10558> say
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:34] <jp10558> but, if some you want to do HTTPMonitor on
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:37] <jp10558> and some you don't
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:45] <jp10558> you have to figure how you want the classes to match up
[01-Apr-2008 19:06:58] <jp10558> that is, I've done Device/Server/Linux/Web/HTTPmonitor
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:13] <jp10558> and put the ones that I want all monitoring PLUS HTTPMonitor in the subclass
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:33] <jp10558> but if every system in Device/Server/Linux/Web *should* have HTTPMonitor watching it
[01-Apr-2008 19:07:37] <jp10558> then you wouldn't need to do that
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[01-Apr-2008 19:07:53] <jp10558> I actually ended up doing subclasses for apache, but had HTTPMonitor apply to all web classes
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:04] <jp10558> Now the problem here, is I have to do it *again* for my Windows systems
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:22] <jp10558> I think that's OK, but you may not
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:41] <jberry> If I already have a device configured under Device/Server/Linux, how do I move it to Device/Server/Linux/Web?
[01-Apr-2008 19:08:45] <jp10558> however, there really isn't a good way to bunch Windows and Linux webservers together at a deeper monitoring level than *just* HTTPMonitor
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:01] <jberry> Guess they need multiple inheritance... ;)
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:03] <jp10558> Well, there's a dropdown
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:36] <jp10558> Let me find it
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:43] <jberry> Thanks for your help, btw
[01-Apr-2008 19:09:53] <jp10558> No problem
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:03] <jp10558> I'm not paying Zenoss so I figure I can help people out
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:08] <jp10558> so they can help me out when I get stuck
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:19] <jp10558> So, in the Device List
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:24] <jp10558> from the main management screen on the left
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:33] <jp10558> you can check the box on the left column next to the devices
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:49] <jp10558> There's the little down triangle just to the left of Device List in the blue header
[01-Apr-2008 19:10:55] <jp10558> that has Move To Class option
[01-Apr-2008 19:11:55] <jberry> Ah, yes, I think I see it.
[01-Apr-2008 19:12:03] <jberry> Thanks, I'll poke at this for a bit.
[01-Apr-2008 19:13:22] <jp10558> Does that clarify anything?
[01-Apr-2008 19:13:41] <jberry> yes, so far. I'll see if now I can follow the rest of the howto given that start.
[01-Apr-2008 19:15:41] <jp10558> The tricky part gets where you're binding the template, so feel free to ask if there's a question - well, it's a bugger with binding *any* template
[01-Apr-2008 19:22:49] <jberry> So I create a datasource of type httpmonitor, but I can just leave the parameterized hostname and ip address alone (${dev/id})?
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:31] <jp10558> Yea
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:44] <jp10558> You would set a variable for that
[01-Apr-2008 19:23:59] <jp10558> or specifically, I don't think you need to there
[01-Apr-2008 19:24:10] <jp10558> it get's pulled from the info when you add a device
[01-Apr-2008 19:24:21] <jberry> yeah, that's what I'd assume
[01-Apr-2008 19:26:26] <jberry> Okay, I think I created a performance template in the right place, and told it to bind.
[01-Apr-2008 19:26:53] <jberry> The howto says that any new devices added will get this template. But I've already got a device in that class. But it should inherit the template anyway?
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:30] <jp10558> Right
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:40] <jp10558> it doesn't matter if you already had a device there, it will get the template
[01-Apr-2008 19:32:50] <jp10558> but you do have to make sure you've bound it correctly
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:10] <jp10558> Does anything show up in the perf tab of the device?
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:19] <jberry> welll...
[01-Apr-2008 19:33:20] <jberry> no
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:05] <jberry> I do see something in history that makes me think it did a fetch on the device.
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:14] <jberry> maybe
[01-Apr-2008 19:34:41] <jberry> But I don't see a graph or anything else in Perf
[01-Apr-2008 19:37:45] <jp10558> Hmm
[01-Apr-2008 19:38:18] <jp10558> When you bound the template to the class, did you use the little pop-up dialog to Bind Templates, and use Ctrl-Click to highlight both Device and the HTTPMonitor?
[01-Apr-2008 19:38:48] <jberry> Oh, maybe not. Let me try that again.
[01-Apr-2008 19:39:33] <jberry> So what do I bind together?
[01-Apr-2008 19:40:18] <jberry> It says "Bind Performance Templates" and has a list of verious things, including my WebIndexCheck template. But not the particular device.
[01-Apr-2008 19:42:44] <jberry> Ah, it's working now.
[01-Apr-2008 19:42:55] <jberry> Maybe it just needed to roll over the 5 minute threshold
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[01-Apr-2008 19:51:57] <jp10558> That could be
[01-Apr-2008 19:52:04] <jberry> damn, now my other graphs stopped working.
[01-Apr-2008 19:52:13] <jberry> Maybe I unbound those?
[01-Apr-2008 19:56:56] <jp10558> Could be
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:08] <jp10558> Remember, you have to have everything you want highlighted in blue
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:10] <jp10558> in that dialog
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:24] <jp10558> So don't unselect Device for instance
[01-Apr-2008 19:57:40] <jberry> So which template supplies things like load average?
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:11] <jberry> Device, rigth?
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:17] <jp10558> YEa
[01-Apr-2008 19:58:20] <jp10558> I believe so
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[01-Apr-2008 20:50:41] <locohost> hmm, isnt there some way to run the collector manually for debugging or something, im getting a bunch of blank spots in all my reports, and pretty regular intervals
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[01-Apr-2008 21:01:46] <locohost> anyone?
[01-Apr-2008 21:08:35] <locohost> well, something to work on tomorrow, i guess, late
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:17] <Funky_> jberry, my zenjmx threshold problem was fixed :)
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:18] <Funky_> http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/changeset/8776
[01-Apr-2008 21:59:26] <adytum-bot> Title: Changeset 8776 - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:04] <jberry> Funky_: cool
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:14] <jberry> Funky_: thanks for the help earlier
[01-Apr-2008 22:07:43] <jberry> I decided things on my system were too messed up, so reset the database and am now trying to start from ground zero.
[01-Apr-2008 22:08:08] <jberry> Unfortunately I can't remember the workarounds for some of the things I did last time I set this stuff up.
[01-Apr-2008 22:15:48] <jberry> oh yeah, figured it out.
[01-Apr-2008 22:31:12] <Funky_> :)
[01-Apr-2008 23:15:37] <jberry> Anybody know how I get a graph of filesystem usage?
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:00] <Funky_> Create a graph based on the data point
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:01] <Funky_> ?
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:14] <jberry> I'm trying to figure out where I do that
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:47] <Funky_> in the template that has that SNMP datapoint
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:48] <jberry> The filesystem template has a graph in it, but I don't see the graph showing up, and if I bind the file system template, all hell breaks lose.
[01-Apr-2008 23:23:56] <Funky_> hm
[01-Apr-2008 23:24:11] <Funky_> No graph in the perf tab?
[01-Apr-2008 23:24:18] <jberry> nope
[01-Apr-2008 23:37:08] <jberry> Ah, graphs for filesystem usage are inside the OS tab, by clicking on the specific file system.
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[02-Apr-2008 09:22:28] <DarkMats> What can I have missed if I don't get network map at all on a fresh install on debian?
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[02-Apr-2008 14:32:13] <jp10558> I'm still trying to track down my issue with the MySQL Zenpack, and was wondering if anyone could provide any troubleshooting suggestions on that
[02-Apr-2008 16:43:27] <likuidkewl> Afternoon all: Anyone have any insight into this error:
[02-Apr-2008 16:43:27] <likuidkewl> 127.0.0.1 sendto error Host ws1-249 and ws1-249.peopleplaces.org are both using ip 127.0.0.1
[02-Apr-2008 17:19:05] <jberry> Funky_: any hints on jmx setup? My zenjmx.log just tells me "timeout occurred during request". I wonder if I've got some fields wrong.
[02-Apr-2008 17:30:30] <likuidkewl> aedaemoen - That didn't work so well.
[02-Apr-2008 17:35:38] <aedaemoen> likuidkewl: how so?
[02-Apr-2008 17:35:52] <aedaemoen> works fine for me :)
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:05] <likuidkewl> Are you running Zenoss on the localhost
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:12] <aedaemoen> yes.
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:18] <likuidkewl> and trying to monitor the local host
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:35] <aedaemoen> ... im monitoring like 20 - 30 devices total...
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:39] <aedaemoen> including the local machine, yes
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:44] <aedaemoen> why?
[02-Apr-2008 17:36:49] <likuidkewl> Argh! Ok I will look again.
[02-Apr-2008 17:39:51] <likuidkewl> The only way I can get mine to work even remotely is by running everything off of 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file. localhost ws1-249 and ws1-249.mydoman.com
[02-Apr-2008 17:40:37] <likuidkewl> If I remove any one of those the web interface is down for the count.
[02-Apr-2008 17:40:55] <likuidkewl> even after a full on 5 minute reboot
[02-Apr-2008 17:46:30] <aedaemoen> likuidkewl: you are setting them to the local LAN ip, right?
[02-Apr-2008 17:46:32] <aedaemoen> not the wan ip?
[02-Apr-2008 17:48:56] <likuidkewl> On the Zenoss box we are using 127.0.0.1 <tab> localhost <tab> ws1-249 <tab>ws1-249.ourdom.com as /etc/hosts
[02-Apr-2008 17:50:15] <likuidkewl> This "works" to allow us to get tot he box from the internal network and locally a the box.
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:06] <idea4gud> i am tryin to do snmpwalk on machine that is on the subnet as mine
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:12] <idea4gud> but i cant get resp
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:19] <idea4gud> i am able to do localhost
[02-Apr-2008 18:10:31] <idea4gud> i tracert
[02-Apr-2008 18:11:11] <idea4gud> its just talkin to other machine
[02-Apr-2008 18:26:26] <aedaemoen> idea4gud: do you have the snmp port open?
[02-Apr-2008 18:27:44] <idea4gud> 161 rite
[02-Apr-2008 18:29:55] <aedaemoen> believe so.
[02-Apr-2008 18:30:24] <aedaemoen> good to see you have te subnetting the same now at least
[02-Apr-2008 18:31:56] <idea4gud> yeah i hav just added them and tried
[02-Apr-2008 18:32:05] <idea4gud> failed
[02-Apr-2008 18:39:26] <Funky_> jberry, you probably have the ports set wrong
[02-Apr-2008 18:39:37] <Funky_> did you enable JMX support on your JVM?
[02-Apr-2008 18:43:34] <jberry> Funky_: yes, and I can use jconsole remotely to get to it with the same authentication information I'm passing
[02-Apr-2008 18:47:00] <jberry> through zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 18:50:28] <magnachef> does anyone know why a bonded interface of two 1 G interfaces (eth0 and eth1) would show up as 10 Mb in SNMP/Zenoss?
[02-Apr-2008 18:50:47] <magnachef> this is for a CentOS 4.5 server
[02-Apr-2008 18:54:51] <Funky_> jberry, I cannot get authentication to work with zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:02] <Funky_> I had no choice btu to disable authentication on my JVM
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:14] <jberry> hmm. ouch
[02-Apr-2008 18:55:43] <jberry> Funky_: I'll have to spend a bit of time to troubleshoot that for them I guess.
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:12] <Funky_> http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5401
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:22] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 18:56:24] <Funky_> here is my post on that if you are interested
[02-Apr-2008 18:57:53] <jberry> Hmm. That's not quite the same error I'm getting, but maybe it is the same.
[02-Apr-2008 18:57:58] <jberry> same issue.
[02-Apr-2008 19:00:10] <Funky_> I wish you good luck :)
[02-Apr-2008 19:01:03] <jberry> If nothing else maybe I'll add some more logging to the java app so I can see what it thinks it's trying to do.
[02-Apr-2008 19:01:49] <Funky_> I found another bug as well
[02-Apr-2008 19:02:47] <jberry> Ooch. They ship that jmx connector with a whole tomcat. I wonder if they're running it under tomcat.
[02-Apr-2008 19:03:02] <Funky_> once you patch zenoss to actually get jmx thresholds to be reported, the escalate count number has no bearing at all
[02-Apr-2008 19:05:49] <idea4gud> I am tryin to add a device windows box I can snmp thru console but when i do it usin zen.DeviceLoader it gives me snmp found for the that IP
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[02-Apr-2008 20:43:55] <KA> Hi all, I noticed that all ipService I set up manually yesterday was somehow removed, any suggestion?
[02-Apr-2008 20:45:51] <KA> it happens the same when I remodel the node manually, so I guess is something related to zenmodel running
[02-Apr-2008 21:15:17] <idea4gud> locohost are you here
[02-Apr-2008 21:16:29] <idea4gud> i added my network using cidr format
[02-Apr-2008 21:16:59] <idea4gud> now i want my discovered device to show in the netwok but it doesnt show up
[02-Apr-2008 21:17:16] <idea4gud> also i do discover devices but no devices are listed
[02-Apr-2008 21:47:14] <mray> Greetings all, my name is Matt Ray and I'm the new Zenoss Community Manager. I'll be hanging out here and forums and everywhere else to help the community.
[02-Apr-2008 21:48:35] <jberry> greatings mray
[02-Apr-2008 21:48:47] <jberry> ...if I could spell
[02-Apr-2008 21:49:59] <mray> jberry: Nice to meet you.
[02-Apr-2008 21:50:35] <jberry> thanks. I'm pretty new to zenoss, and struggle mightily at times.
[02-Apr-2008 21:51:12] <jberry> so it's nice to see an effort to reach out to the community, rather than to just try to collect fees from them, which is what I've surmised so far... ;)
[02-Apr-2008 21:51:41] <mray> Hopefully as I ramp up I'll be able to help out more. I'm actually new to Zenoss myself, today's my second day on the job. My last gig was at BMC, which really likes to collect fees :)
[02-Apr-2008 21:52:09] <jberry> heh
[02-Apr-2008 21:53:02] <jberry> right now I'm hacking on the source for the jmx collector, which I can't seem to get to work.
[02-Apr-2008 21:55:24] <mray> have you posted on the forum/mailing list?
[02-Apr-2008 21:55:52] <jberry> I haven't had real good response on the forum, so I'm staying away for now.
[02-Apr-2008 21:57:30] <mray> I would recommend posting a fairly detailed post, I know the developers are monitoring it, and if you have source up that'll help too. I know there are several java developers joining soon, so maybe I can point them at it
[02-Apr-2008 21:58:02] <Funky_> I'm glad to see Zenoss is picking up the pace :)
[02-Apr-2008 21:58:43] <mray> not that IRC isn't a good source of info, but at least the forums are more visible (and hopefully more responsive)
[02-Apr-2008 22:02:08] <mray> the forums and the mailing lists are supposed to be glued together with MailMan and Plone(?), so either one should be fine for following/subscribing
[02-Apr-2008 22:02:33] <mray> not Plone, phpBB
[02-Apr-2008 22:08:58] <lavermil> hello
[02-Apr-2008 22:09:04] <lavermil> I have a question with the isntall
[02-Apr-2008 22:09:11] <lavermil> on centos 5 via rpm
[02-Apr-2008 22:10:47] <lavermil> anyone alive?
[02-Apr-2008 22:11:48] <mray> I'm here, don't have a Centos install yet. But this was on the forum: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5358&highlight=centos
[02-Apr-2008 22:12:06] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - Install-problems on CentOS 5.1 (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 22:12:13] <mray> does that look similar?
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:29] <lavermil> umm
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:33] <lavermil> let me check it out
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:38] <lavermil> sorry was reading ht forum stuff
[02-Apr-2008 22:19:55] <lavermil> basically my problem is it looks to have installed correctly, but I don't know how to access the install
[02-Apr-2008 22:20:32] <lavermil> yeah, read that one already.
[02-Apr-2008 22:21:23] <lavermil> does zenoss install and create a mysql database? if so what DB?
[02-Apr-2008 22:22:07] <lavermil> aah found hte sql files.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:08] <Funky_> it does
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:14] <lavermil> interesting
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:14] <Funky_> it creates a db called events
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> events database created and loaded
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> WARNING:OFS.Application:Duplicate Product name
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> I skipped the one in '/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:16] <lavermil> 2008-04-02 14:16:46 WARNING OFS.Application Duplicate Product name
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:17] <lavermil> After loading Product 'Five' from '/opt/zenoss/Products',
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:19] <lavermil> I skipped the one in '/opt/zenoss/lib/python/Products'.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:21] <lavermil> WARNING:zen.Events:Failed to refresh conversions, db connection failed.
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:48] <lavermil> aah crap
[02-Apr-2008 22:23:52] <lavermil> I think i know hwat happened
[02-Apr-2008 22:24:02] <lavermil> bin/zenoss_init_post and bin/zenoss_init_pre both need to be updated with the root password
[02-Apr-2008 22:25:43] <mray> anyone have a recommendation for an OSX IRC client? Colloquy is killing my slow laptop
[02-Apr-2008 22:26:20] <lavermil> not sure is bitchx or scrollz is ported
[02-Apr-2008 22:26:24] <lavermil> those are good freebsd ones
[02-Apr-2008 22:27:07] <mray> I used xchat before, but my machine is on its knees
[02-Apr-2008 22:27:35] <lavermil> yikes. sounds like more ram is needed
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:33] <lavermil> --15:26:12-- http://172.20.17.71/
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:33] <lavermil> Connecting to 172.20.17.71:80... failed: Connection refused.
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:36] <lavermil> hmmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:43] <lavermil> no firewall running or anything
[02-Apr-2008 22:28:46] <lavermil> do I need ot have zope installed?
[02-Apr-2008 22:32:27] <lavermil> hmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:32:31] <lavermil> the mysql user is correct
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:17] <lavermil> mysql -u zenoss
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> mysql> show databases;
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> | Database |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:23] <lavermil> | information_schema |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:24] <lavermil> | events |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:26] <lavermil> | test |
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:28] <lavermil> +--------------------+
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:30] <lavermil> hmmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:36] <Funky_> try doing a zenoss status
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:48] <Funky_> and check to see if all the daemons are running
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:54] <lavermil> everythin returns except one.
[02-Apr-2008 22:33:59] <lavermil> Daemon: zopectl daemon manager not running
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:14] <lavermil> I DO NOT have zope installed
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:20] <lavermil> do I need to install zope manually?
[02-Apr-2008 22:34:33] <lavermil> or does it have a stipped down version a part of the package?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:07] <Funky_> I don't think so
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:17] <lavermil> are you on a redhat version?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:21] <Funky_> but i've had random problems like that before
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:24] <Funky_> rhel4
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:31] <lavermil> do you use yum?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:33] <Funky_> try doing a zenoss restart
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:39] <lavermil> or up2date?
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:42] <Funky_> I used the rpm and installed from source
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:42] <lavermil> or yast
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:47] <lavermil> hmm
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:50] <lavermil> maybe I should just do that.
[02-Apr-2008 22:35:54] <lavermil> I installed from the RPM
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:08] <lavermil> source = check for everything
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:15] <lavermil> rpm = check for only stuff told to check for
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:20] <Funky_> it's a simple install from source
[02-Apr-2008 22:36:51] <lavermil> I keep getting zopectl daemon manager not running
[02-Apr-2008 22:37:19] <lavermil> I just isntalled and start zope, lets see what happens now.
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:08] <lavermil> hmm what source did you build from
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:12] <lavermil> htere is only fedora
[02-Apr-2008 22:40:17] <Funky_> latest svn
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:15] <lavermil> :(
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:20] <lavermil> what is the svn directory?
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:24] <lavermil> err url
[02-Apr-2008 22:41:49] <Funky_> svn co http://dev.zenoss.org/svn/trunk/inst zenossinst
[02-Apr-2008 22:42:38] <adytum-bot> Title: Revision 8802: /trunk/inst (at dev.zenoss.org)
[02-Apr-2008 22:44:44] <lavermil> thx
[02-Apr-2008 22:44:47] <lavermil> I will try that
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:12] <Funky_> that version is better than 2.1.3 anyway :)
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:27] <lavermil> is that more current?
[02-Apr-2008 22:45:29] <lavermil> is it devel?
[02-Apr-2008 22:47:31] <lavermil> where is the default install for it?
[02-Apr-2008 22:52:11] <lavermil> Funky_ do you need to have httpd running or does zenoss use its own server?
[02-Apr-2008 22:52:59] <lavermil> starting up the vmware appliance
[02-Apr-2008 23:14:32] <lavermil> i will play with the appliance for now.
[02-Apr-2008 23:14:34] <lavermil> thx
[02-Apr-2008 23:16:08] <jberry> Funky_: got my jmx to go through. I had a firewall rule blocking access from the machine zenoss was running on, even though I could get to it from my development machine ;(
[02-Apr-2008 23:16:49] <jberry> Funky_: I too ran into the authentication issue. The authentication flag is never passed into the jmx code, and so it never uses the credentials.
[02-Apr-2008 23:27:28] <Funky_> jberry, i knew it :)
[02-Apr-2008 23:27:40] <Funky_> you're the only other person i know who's tried it :)
[02-Apr-2008 23:32:12] <jberry> mray: one upshot of the jmx problems I've been having is here: http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18044#18044. (I also had a separate problem which was of my own making).
[02-Apr-2008 23:32:45] <adytum-bot> Title: Forums :: View topic - ZenJMX with Authentication enabled. (at community.zenoss.com)
[02-Apr-2008 23:33:05] <jberry> Funky_: I rebuilt the java jar that the jmx collector uses, to patch around the problem.
[02-Apr-2008 23:33:44] <jberry> oh, mray is gone. so much for community involvement ;)
[02-Apr-2008 23:34:07] <Funky_> you patched the code?
[02-Apr-2008 23:34:11] <Funky_> heh
[02-Apr-2008 23:35:15] <Funky_> oh i see your post
[02-Apr-2008 23:35:17] <Funky_> interesting
[02-Apr-2008 23:53:00] <jberry> Funky_: actually I think the patch mentioned by the op in the forum is not applied in the released jmx code.
[02-Apr-2008 23:53:33] <Funky_> It's in the release notes...
[02-Apr-2008 23:54:54] <Funky_> Is it not in the actual code?
[02-Apr-2008 23:55:43] <jberry> It's not in the version of the jmx pack that I downloaded from here http://www.zenoss.com/community/projects/zenpacks/.
[02-Apr-2008 23:55:57] <Funky_> actually... I think I did check the code and the changes are there
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:01] <Funky_> yes I remember I dide
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:02] <Funky_> did
[02-Apr-2008 23:56:08] <jberry> It is represented in the source tree, however.
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:20] <jberry> The jmx pack on the server still says version 1.0. Don't know how old that is?
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:28] <Funky_> not sure
[02-Apr-2008 23:57:43] <jberry> But it doesn't incorporate that change.
[02-Apr-2008 23:58:08] <jberry> How long ago was 2.1.3 released?
[02-Apr-2008 23:58:52] <Funky_> couple weeks ago max
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:06] <jberry> Hmm. I don't think they updated that zenpack.
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:23] <Funky_> I can't check my installation now...
[02-Apr-2008 23:59:55] <jberry> Well, based on my comparison the fix isn't in.
[03-Apr-2008 00:00:15] <Funky_> strange...
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[03-Apr-2008 00:00:44] <Funky_> Hi zenoss-logger, thanks for logging me :)
[03-Apr-2008 00:01:13] <Funky_> I'll bbl
[03-Apr-2008 00:01:28] <jberry> bye
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[03-Apr-2008 15:39:50] <jp10558> Does anyone here know how to get a graph of how many pages were printed from a printer over the last 5 minutes from an OID that tells you how many pages have been printed so far on the printer/cartridge?
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:31] <jp10558> That is, if the first check of the OID is 5, and the second check is 6, I want a sort of fill graph or something @ 1
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:43] <jp10558> the next check is 10, that should be at 4
[03-Apr-2008 15:40:52] <jp10558> next is 10 again, so graph ought to be at 0
[03-Apr-2008 15:58:18] <garnica> hi people, I have successfully run zenoss on vmware, I've tried to install it on my Suse10.3 as a monitoring server on my lap top i goes well but I get this message : ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
[03-Apr-2008 15:58:38] <garnica> any idea of what can I do ??
[03-Apr-2008 16:28:22] <MoreDakka> Does anyone know if Zenoss requires a user to be pert of the Local Admin group on a Windows server to access WMI properly?
[03-Apr-2008 16:28:36] <MoreDakka> I don't really like giving Zenoss the ability to write to the servers...
[03-Apr-2008 16:31:42] <MoreDakka> Has anyone been able to get WMI to actually monitor services successfully? Like alert or even show a Red dot when the service is shutdown or disabled?
[03-Apr-2008 16:42:24] <jp10558> Yes, but the zenoss user MUST be an administrator
[03-Apr-2008 16:45:35] <MoreDakka> How would I do that with windows permissions? I've set the zenoss user in the local admin account but I'm pretty sure the only way I can think of is in the WMI Security settings to not allow the admin group write access...but that's the only way I know.
[03-Apr-2008 16:50:39] <jberry> Has anybody here used the apache monitor zenpack?
[03-Apr-2008 16:52:04] <jberry> There doesn't seem to be much documentation for it. I'm wondering if it allows me to specify authentication information so it can access a non-public status page?
[03-Apr-2008 17:12:02] <MoreDakka> Hm, zenoss is awesome. ZenWinMonitor noticed the service (example Windows Audio, had that set to True for "monitoring"), shut the service down...no alert, no red dot...I don't think Zenoss knows how to monitor services through WMI all that well.
[03-Apr-2008 17:38:13] <Funky-> jberry, still trying eh?
[03-Apr-2008 17:40:24] <jberry> Funky_: yeah.
[03-Apr-2008 17:40:39] <jberry> I've got things working pretty well.
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[03-Apr-2008 19:11:06] <magnachef> I've added monitoring of port 22 under IPService of a device, but I want to have it watching this port across an entire class. I can't find how to apply it to a whole class
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[03-Apr-2008 21:53:33] <magnachef> I added an IPService for port monitoring (ssh/22) on a device that for some reason wasn't showing as an instance for that device under "Classes"->"Services"->"IPService"->"Registered"->"ssh". Why did it not show up, and is there a way I can enable it across the entire class?
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[04-Apr-2008 11:47:36] <crazyminsc> good afternoon
[04-Apr-2008 12:56:06] <twm1010> morning !
[04-Apr-2008 13:40:31] <MoreDakka_> Morning. Do you use WMI for monitoring services and processes?
[04-Apr-2008 13:40:50] <MoreDakka_> and by you I mean anyone that is reading this ;-)
[04-Apr-2008 14:06:55] <jp10558> I do to some extent for services, I believe processes are monitored via SNMP in Zenoss
[04-Apr-2008 14:11:47] <MoreDakka_> I'm trying to get a service monitored for a client and WMI is the only way that I can find to monitor a service...zenoss and wmi don't like eachother or something on my server.
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:34] <jp10558> If your using Server 2008, then I think you're screwed, they are supposedly bug fixing for the new MS OSs
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:44] <MoreDakka_> Nope, 2003.
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:45] <jp10558> if it's Server 2003/XP you should be OK
[04-Apr-2008 14:22:59] <jp10558> Make sure the user account is specified correctly and has admin access to the box
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:06] <jp10558> that is by far the most common error
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:08] <twm1010> oh he's done that
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:09] <twm1010> :)
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:18] <jp10558> hmm
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:22] <MoreDakka_> "should". What happens is Zenoss will detect all the services and such. However when I bring down one of the monitored services zenoss does nothing.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:23] <jp10558> then I guess I can't help :(
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:32] <jp10558> Oh, yea
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:41] <jp10558> I've seen that recently - it's kind of weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:43] <twm1010> how did you add it
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:48] <twm1010> did you add it as a process or winservice
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:51] <MoreDakka_> no little red dot either.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:58] <MoreDakka_> Zenoss auto-detected.
[04-Apr-2008 14:23:59] <jp10558> For a while I thought it was related to being '/Device/Server/Windows/subclass'
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:21] <MoreDakka_> I have the box in as /Device/Server/Windows as well.
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:26] <jp10558> but now it is working for me on '/Device/Server/Windows/subclass' and not on '/Device/Server/Windows'
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:44] <jp10558> It started working after a zenoss restart - have you tried that (oddly enough)?
[04-Apr-2008 14:24:55] <MoreDakka_> So you are alerted when a Win Service drops?
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:04] <MoreDakka_> Yeah I've tried a zenoss reset :-|
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:32] <twm1010> I am, yes
[04-Apr-2008 14:25:34] <MoreDakka_> Lucky I'm listening to calming music or the zenoss box would be in pieces.
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[04-Apr-2008 14:26:00] <twm1010> the only issues i have with WMI are with Win2K NAS devices
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:16] <MoreDakka> :-/ I wish that was my only problem with WMI :-/
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:41] <twm1010> I'm curious, have you tried downloading the VMWare appliance, and starting that up and see if it has any issues doin the WMI?
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:44] <twm1010> wouldn't take you very long
[04-Apr-2008 14:26:53] <twm1010> that would rule out a problem with your zenbox or with your network/servers
[04-Apr-2008 14:30:23] <MoreDakka> Hmmm, nope haven't tried that yet. Might be worth a shot.
[04-Apr-2008 14:31:38] <jp10558> Hmm
[04-Apr-2008 14:31:50] <twm1010> I think so...
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:00] <jp10558> I get alerted to one systems alerts, and not to others... it's kind of weird, but may well have to do with other alerting rules
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:04] <twm1010> I chose the VMWare appliance specifically so that the environment was what it was developed on.
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:20] <twm1010> jp: what alerting criteria did you pick?
[04-Apr-2008 14:32:42] <twm1010> i often wonder if multiple alerting rules will generate multiple e-mails for the same event
[04-Apr-2008 14:36:53] <jp10558> Hmm, I'm not currently working on WMI per se, so I don't know off the top of my head
[04-Apr-2008 14:37:20] <jp10558> I'm trying to find out how to graph a command datasource
[04-Apr-2008 14:43:42] <jp10558> Ok, I'm looking at a test system with WMI
[04-Apr-2008 14:44:06] <jp10558> And yea, it's not currently noticing on this one, but did for one in my subclass ... weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:35] <jp10558> If I have a command that outputs a number
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:42] <jp10558> and I want to graph that number
[04-Apr-2008 14:46:52] <jp10558> anyone know how to do that?
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:28] <jp10558> Yup, so now it's noticing in the '/nativePoll' subclass
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:29] <jp10558> weird
[04-Apr-2008 14:52:38] <jp10558> no issue for me though as I want to stick windows there anywayt
[04-Apr-2008 14:58:28] <jp10558> Anyone here do any command based graphing?
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:27] <twm1010> what kind of data source
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:33] <twm1010> does it return back an integer?
[04-Apr-2008 15:02:45] <twm1010> im doing it for my Netware monitoring
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:11] <jp10558> Yea, all it returns is an integer nuber
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:13] <jp10558> number
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:17] <jp10558> like 0 or 2
[04-Apr-2008 15:03:32] <jp10558> it often might be 0, but it could be a higher number like 100 sometimes
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:00] <jp10558> Actually
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:09] <twm1010> ok
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:10] <jp10558> the command prints to the stdout the number
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:13] <jp10558> is that wrong?
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:21] <twm1010> what does it actually return?
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:26] <twm1010> copy and paste theline here
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:35] <jp10558> oh, what would come out
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:55] <jp10558> [zenoss@lnx90 printtest]$ bash printpage
[04-Apr-2008 15:04:55] <jp10558> 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:00] <jp10558> so if I run it as above
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:04] <jp10558> the second line, the 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:07] <jp10558> is all that's there
[04-Apr-2008 15:05:35] <twm1010> all my commands generate a line in a syntax so you get the datasource name and then the integer
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:00] <jp10558> So I want to have it returen
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:01] <jp10558> write
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:04] <jp10558> umm, like
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:09] <jp10558> pages 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:06:16] <jp10558> or what is the syntax?
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:04] <twm1010> yes
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:16] <twm1010> let me see what i get back from one of my nagios checks
[04-Apr-2008 15:08:54] <jp10558> Thanks for any info
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:00] <twm1010> ok, so my cpu load check for netware
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:02] <twm1010> runs this command
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:03] <twm1010> ./Products/NetwareDeviceTemplate/libexec/check_nwstat -H 172.16.225.20 -v LOAD5
[04-Apr-2008 15:11:21] <twm1010> and i return : Load OK - Up 31 days 23 hours 30 minutes, 5-min load average = 0%|load5=0;0;0;0;100
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:16] <twm1010> my datasource checks
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:36] <twm1010> well, its just called load5
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:47] <twm1010> and it's getting the first value past the = sign
[04-Apr-2008 15:12:59] <jp10558> ok
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:43] <jp10558> let's see what happens if I change it to
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:50] <jp10558> bash printpage
[04-Apr-2008 15:14:50] <jp10558> PagesPrinted1 = 0
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:39] <webtech> does anyone have Zenoss in debian package format?
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:51] <KillMeNow> not as far as I know
[04-Apr-2008 15:21:51] <jp10558> How do you have the datasource checking load5?
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:01] <webtech> for etch or ubuntu
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:07] <jp10558> is that specified somewhere or is that just the name of the datasource
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:44] <KillMeNow> I've seen some documentation out there on how to get it to work in Ubuntu / Debian, but i don't think it's up on a repository
[04-Apr-2008 15:22:59] <webtech> i think i may have to make one
[04-Apr-2008 15:23:43] <KillMeNow> I know i've seen alot of people out there looking for it on Ubuntu for APT
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:03] <webtech> i have been reading alot of sites
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:06] <webtech> to make it work
[04-Apr-2008 15:24:56] <webtech> but i am getting lazy and installing a package is alot easier
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:03] <KillMeNow> well sure it is!
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:15] <KillMeNow> i love apt!
[04-Apr-2008 15:25:31] <KillMeNow> it's full of WINzor!
[04-Apr-2008 15:27:12] <webtech> i will have the check the debian rules before i start doing anything
[04-Apr-2008 15:29:03] <webtech> okie .. off to package making school
[04-Apr-2008 15:29:07] <webtech> l8r
[04-Apr-2008 15:38:58] <mray_> KillMeNow: I'm the Zenoss Community Manager and Ubuntu and Debian adoption are very high on my priority list. We have a few blockers that we're working on, I'll keep an eye out for webtech and talk to him about it some
[04-Apr-2008 15:39:57] <mray_> basically we're using an older version of Zope and Python, so they're not crazy about getting us in there yet
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:07] <mray_> and Debian has some reservations about our use of Flash
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:34] <mray_> but we're working on upgrading and making a non-Flash alternative, it just might take awhile
[04-Apr-2008 15:40:47] <mray_> I believe the Etch instructions are about to get revved
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[04-Apr-2008 15:49:23] <jp10558> yea twm1010 - still no joy
[04-Apr-2008 15:49:31] <jp10558> no idea what's wrong
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:03] <zenoss> hi people !! I have installed zenoss in my Suse10.3 laptop, then I want to start it by using the 'zenoss start' script... Daemons zeoctl and zopectl start ok, but zenhub gives me some messages:
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:40] <zenoss> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenHub/__init__.py", line 27, in ?
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:41] <zenoss>
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:41] <zenoss> ImportError: libmysqlclient_r.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, for example
[04-Apr-2008 16:58:54] <webtech_m33> remember me, i was asking about Zenoss and Debian packages
[04-Apr-2008 16:59:18] <webtech_m33> i emailed Zenoss and they said that they will be in the atp repo in the next few weeks..
[04-Apr-2008 17:00:14] <zenoss> ok ... I will change my nick.... hold on.
[04-Apr-2008 17:01:26] <mray> greetings webtech, I emailed you from my @zenoss email
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:18] <webtech_m33> mray .. ty for the email
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:33] <webtech_m33> mray can i download those today off of a site some where?
[04-Apr-2008 17:03:37] <garnica> ok
[04-Apr-2008 17:05:54] <mray> we're working on having fresh .debs put out every release, but we haven't gotten them made yet. Right now we only have source instructions for Debian/Ubuntu
[04-Apr-2008 17:06:04] <mray> today's my 3rd day on the job :)
[04-Apr-2008 17:06:39] <webtech_m33> nice
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:05] <webtech_m33> i was going to install from source .. but deb files are easier to install
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:35] <mray> agreed
[04-Apr-2008 17:07:42] <garnica> looks like python 2.5.1 in Suse10 won't work with zenoss.... I can not start the zenhub daemon ..... any idea ?
[04-Apr-2008 17:08:14] <mray> I believe it's because we're using an old version of Zope that doesn't work with 2.5
[04-Apr-2008 17:08:27] <mray> another part of getting our act together
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:31] <mray> garnica: http://www.zenoss.com/community/docs/install-guides/install-from-source/
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:47] <garnica> ok... checking out mray !
[04-Apr-2008 17:10:49] <adytum-bot> Title: Zenoss - Install from Source - Open Source Application, Server, and Network Management (at www.zenoss.com)
[04-Apr-2008 17:12:03] <mray> I'm going to be pushing the devteam to get onto a newer version of Zope, which will get us onto a newer version of Python, which will make installation a lot easier, and help get us into more distributions
[04-Apr-2008 17:12:15] <mray> and make more people happy :)
[04-Apr-2008 17:15:44] <garnica> ok.... this is what happens ..... if you have suse 10.3 make sure you have python 2.3.5 'cause you may have python 2.5 or any other ..... so make a downgrade !!
[04-Apr-2008 17:15:53] <garnica> thanks people !!
[04-Apr-2008 17:16:02] <garnica> see ya'
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:00] <jp10558> Hmm, I'm still trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong with my command data source
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:07] <jp10558> Still not getting any graph from it
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:23] <jp10558> Is there a specific input/output needed?
[04-Apr-2008 18:07:43] <jp10558> do I need to do something like return in the bash script vs outputting to stdout?
[04-Apr-2008 18:42:15] <posix^> using wmic, I'm getting 3 values for the 'Name' field of 'Win32_OperatingSystem', is this normal?
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:16] <webtech_m33> hey guys, when i go to install zenoss from tarball
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:19] <webtech_m33> i get a
[04-Apr-2008 19:28:52] <webtech_m33> Permission denied
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:12] <webtech_m33> usr/bin/python2.4 genpatchdeps.py >.patchdeps
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:23] <webtech_m33> bin/sh: cannot create .patchdeps
[04-Apr-2008 19:29:30] <webtech_m33> any ideas?
[04-Apr-2008 20:18:11] <Funky_> webtech_m33, has to be directory permissions
[04-Apr-2008 20:18:51] <posix^> Funky_: know anything about wmic? :)
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:19] <Funky_> not really sorry :)
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:27] <posix^> doh..
[04-Apr-2008 20:19:52] <Funky_> I've given up on zenoss I don't even know why I am still here, heh
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:20] <posix^> hahah, whoa.
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:45] <posix^> I'm just using their wmic tool..
[04-Apr-2008 20:20:54] <posix^> are you using another product?
[04-Apr-2008 20:21:49] <Funky_> still evaluating
[04-Apr-2008 20:22:08] <Funky_> but zenoss extremely broken implementation of JMX was the deal breaker :P
[04-Apr-2008 20:31:39] <posix^> hm
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[05-Apr-2008 04:00:55] <idea4gud> any1 out there
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[06-Apr-2008 06:55:31] <nima0102> hi everybody
[06-Apr-2008 06:56:01] <nima0102> I have not installed ZenOss still, one question?
[06-Apr-2008 06:56:21] <nima0102> Is ZenOss based on Python?
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:19] <nima0102> ??
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:20] <nima0102> ??
[06-Apr-2008 06:58:20] <nima0102> ??
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[07-Apr-2008 10:13:12] <danw> hello
[07-Apr-2008 10:14:39] <danw> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 12:40:21] <danw__> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 13:03:16] <Blinny> Is there anything special I need to do to model a WinNT4.0 server? I installed Windows SNMP service, and modeled the machine under Servers/Windows but am coming up blank. I do have a WMI Connect Error on {hostname} in my event log.
[07-Apr-2008 13:14:11] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: look in the zproperties for the /Server/Windows in the Devices and set the password and username for the servers you are going to model. If you need to use a domain user make sure that you do (DOMAIN)/(USERNAME)
[07-Apr-2008 13:15:02] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: correction (DOMAIN)\(USERNAME)
[07-Apr-2008 13:22:43] <Blinny> Bulwinkle: Thank you. I was searching on 'wmiusername' or 'wmipassword' - I'm guessing this is relevant to an older version of Zenoss.
[07-Apr-2008 13:22:50] <Blinny> Bulwinkle: Do I then remodel the device?
[07-Apr-2008 13:23:06] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: yes... have you installed snmp-informant?
[07-Apr-2008 13:23:37] <Blinny> I'm not sure what that is, so I'm guessing the answer is 'No'.
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:02] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: it is needed to do any SNMP monitoring... http://www.snmp-informant.com/
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:09] <__adytum-bot__> Title: snmp-informant.com (at www.snmp-informant.com)
[07-Apr-2008 13:24:39] <Bulwinkle> install that, it doesn't really change anything but adds mibs so that ZenOSS can monitor your system via snmp
[07-Apr-2008 13:25:19] <Blinny> I know the SNMP functionality of Windows NT is pretty weak. I was hoping to just get traps forwarded on to my monitoring Zenoss box.
[07-Apr-2008 13:26:57] <Blinny> Yuck. snmp-informant does not list NT4 as a product with which it is compatible.
[07-Apr-2008 13:28:08] <Bulwinkle> Blinny: if you want to do that you can always set the box to not be monitored via snmp
[07-Apr-2008 13:29:08] <Blinny> True. Right on.
[07-Apr-2008 13:29:12] <Blinny> Thanks Bulwinkle
[07-Apr-2008 13:35:23] <Bulwinkle> np
[07-Apr-2008 14:49:51] <jp10558> Ok, I think this may be a question regarding RRD more than Zenoss, but here goes. I was under the impression that Guage just graphed the number that came into RRD - but I do recall there is some averaging going on. Is there a way to turn that off?
[07-Apr-2008 14:50:21] <jp10558> I'm trying to graph the number of pages printed in since the last cycle
[07-Apr-2008 14:51:13] <jp10558> but in my recent tests I printed 7 pages, and got 6.2 pages graphed. I don't think this will work that well for us as the printer can't print part of a page really, it just indicates total numbers...
[07-Apr-2008 14:51:26] <jp10558> Any ideas?
[07-Apr-2008 15:02:40] <mrayzenoss> I might suggest posting to the forums/mailing list.
[07-Apr-2008 15:02:48] <mrayzenoss> with more details of your version/setup
[07-Apr-2008 15:17:39] <jp10558> Hmmm, another question - anyone know why my command datasource would work if I run zencommand in debug mode, but not if running normally?
[07-Apr-2008 15:35:36] <locohost> you can compile net-snmp on windows,
[07-Apr-2008 17:05:21] <lazarus477> Hello. I have just discovered Zenoss while reading about Nagios. I am wondering if Zenoss uses plugins to enable monitoring of hosts, plugins at the hosts ends?
[07-Apr-2008 17:10:43] <mrayzenoss> Zenoss uses ZenPacks, which are bundles of specialized monitoring configurations for applications/OSes/devices
[07-Apr-2008 17:25:54] <lazarus477> I see. Thank you.
[07-Apr-2008 17:26:09] <lazarus477> Anyone here used Zenoss on NetBSD?
[07-Apr-2008 17:49:39] <lazarus477> Can Zenoss monitor the status of SAMBA and OpenVPN? If not I asume there is a facility to make it simple enough to implement for admins?
[07-Apr-2008 17:50:30] <lazarus477> I see for adding funktionality I use ZenPacks, just got that in the online docs.
[07-Apr-2008 17:50:54] <lazarus477> But I would like to know. Where can I find out about which services it is able to monitor using default packs?
[07-Apr-2008 17:51:03] <lazarus477> Is there a listing somewhere?
[07-Apr-2008 17:53:05] <lazarus477> Ok just found documentation on that as well, eesh I feel like such an noob bothering ya all with such simple questions.
[07-Apr-2008 17:53:34] <lazarus477> So do many of you bother with writing custom zenpacks or do you just make due with the available ones?
[07-Apr-2008 17:57:07] <lazarus477> O I see Zenoss supports Nagios plugins, how wonderful! That is good.
[07-Apr-2008 17:57:24] <lazarus477> Tell me. Is the google maps feature available in the community edition?
[07-Apr-2008 18:06:39] <jp10558> I believe so lazarus477
[07-Apr-2008 18:08:43] <idea4gud> hi guyz i have query :
[07-Apr-2008 18:08:51] <idea4gud> I am trying to add a OS process
[07-Apr-2008 18:09:09] <idea4gud> i hav zenoss 2.1.3 runnin on centos 5
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:01] <idea4gud> i try add OS process and it says Zpublisher.publish module has error
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:05] <lazarus477> Yep just saw the google maps feature is in the core edition for community use.
[07-Apr-2008 18:10:45] <idea4gud> so is this bcz of i dont hav plug in installed or there is some other problem
[07-Apr-2008 18:13:57] <idea4gud> pastebin.ca/975633
[07-Apr-2008 18:35:38] <jp10558> Anyone know where Zenoss stores .rrd files for a created command data source?
[07-Apr-2008 18:37:07] <idea4gud> what would you suggest the best way to monitor Win2k3 server
[07-Apr-2008 18:37:15] <idea4gud> using the WMI plugin
[07-Apr-2008 18:47:51] <jp10558> Hmm - yea I think the WMI Zenpack is the best IMO
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:08] <jp10558> though, I would also look at the newer advanced WMI Zenpack listed in the newsletter
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:16] <jp10558> http://blog.dastrup.com/?p=13
[07-Apr-2008 18:48:24] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Advanced WMI Performance Monitor ZenPack for Zenoss Core | Dastrup Tech Logs (at blog.dastrup.com)
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[07-Apr-2008 19:08:32] <idea4gud> thnx JP
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[07-Apr-2008 19:31:00] <Rayen> Hello, I was just wondering to what kind of problems does ZenOSS's network monitor offer a solution?
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:27] <jp10558> ?
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:41] <jp10558> I'm not sure what you mean Rayen
[07-Apr-2008 19:32:52] <danw__> before i download and install zenoss core, and i want to know if i could purchase the "Virtual Host Monitor" without going to the enterprise version?
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:12] <Rayen> Well ZenOSS offers a product (So it's a solution to a certain problem)
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:20] <Rayen> But what exactly is the problem?
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:20] <jp10558> danw__: I think you should contact Zenoss sales for that question
[07-Apr-2008 19:35:54] <jp10558> Rayen: Oh. The problem is servers/services/computers going down, and you not knowing so you can fix them
[07-Apr-2008 19:36:18] <jp10558> I.E., it helps to know if your e-mail server has died before all the users start calling you
[07-Apr-2008 19:36:39] <jp10558> or if your outside web page has gone down, it helps to know before you lose lots and lots of traffice
[07-Apr-2008 19:38:01] <Rayen> So it's actually a program which allows system administrators to monitor availability, inventory/configuration, performance and alerts?
[07-Apr-2008 19:38:06] <Rayen> (webbased)
[07-Apr-2008 19:39:02] <jp10558> Yes
[07-Apr-2008 19:39:12] <jp10558> What did it come across as to you from their site?
[07-Apr-2008 19:41:21] <Rayen> I didn't really understand why this product was on the market... but now it makes sense :)
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:18] <idea4gud> jp: whats diff b/w Zenplugin and Zenwinpack
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:33] <idea4gud> info i got is former is used to monitor thru SSH
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:51] <idea4gud> and l8r is used to monitor using SNMP agent
[07-Apr-2008 19:45:56] <idea4gud> did i get correctly
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[07-Apr-2008 19:58:21] <mrayzenoss> idea4gud: A ZenPack contains a zenplugin which provides functionality, I don't know about the ZenWinPack
[07-Apr-2008 20:03:57] <jp10558> I'm not really sure what the ZenWinPack is?
[07-Apr-2008 20:04:39] <jp10558> Did you mean the WindowsWMIDeviceTemplate or Advanced WMI Performance Monitor?
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[07-Apr-2008 20:22:25] <locohost> so, when you model a device, it wont pickup hostname changes?
[07-Apr-2008 20:23:34] <magnachef> yeah, it should
[07-Apr-2008 20:27:48] <locohost> heh,
[07-Apr-2008 20:31:33] <idea4gud> I am tryin run wbemtest when i click connect dialog offers me connect options
[07-Apr-2008 20:31:49] <idea4gud> i enter \root\cimv2 as given in Document
[07-Apr-2008 20:32:07] <idea4gud> and enter admin user id and pwd
[07-Apr-2008 20:34:44] <idea4gud> it returns with error : user credentials cannot be used for local connections
[07-Apr-2008 20:36:40] <idea4gud> i solved it :)
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:32] <idea4gud> http://blog.zenoss.com/tag/open+source+monitoring this entry says i dont need Zenwin to monitor WMI service
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:39] <idea4gud> i have 2.1.3
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:41] <idea4gud> running
[07-Apr-2008 20:50:59] <__adytum-bot__> Title: Zenoss Blog (at blog.zenoss.com)
[07-Apr-2008 20:52:58] <idea4gud> so does it mean i dont hav to download and install ZENWIN separately on machine Centos Server
[07-Apr-2008 21:12:47] <locohost> dont listen to magnachef, he's a bad seed
[07-Apr-2008 21:12:57] <magnachef> :)
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[07-Apr-2008 21:13:46] <locohost> Oh trust me. He's a bad seed. He's a horrible seed. He's one of the worst
[07-Apr-2008 21:13:46] <locohost> seeds I've ever seen.
[07-Apr-2008 21:47:55] <idea4gud> i have zenwin model present in zenoss 2.1.3
[07-Apr-2008 21:53:04] <idea4gud> but when i try to do zenwin i cant do\
[07-Apr-2008 22:13:50] <danw__> hey guys i'm just install zenoss now and i'm getting "unable to find the "patch" program"
[07-Apr-2008 22:14:09] <danw__> anyone got any ideas?
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:28] <lochii> hi, for when people are around
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:42] <lochii> am getting this error trying to add a device on latest stable version of core, for freebsd 6.2:
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:45] <lochii> 2008-04-07T23:32:46 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog http://zentest.test.com:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:48] <lochii> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:51] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:53] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:56] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object
[07-Apr-2008 22:17:59] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 128, in loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:02] <lochii> except e:
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:04] <lochii> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'e' referenced before assignment
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:06] <lochii> the bad exception handling is hiding the real problem
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:24] <lochii> which is actually this:
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, in publish
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py", line 88, in mapply
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:26] <lochii> File "usr/local/zenoss/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 40, in call_object
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:29] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/ZDeviceLoader.py", line 120, in loadDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:31] <lochii> statusMonitors, performanceMonitor, discoverProto)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:34] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 103, in manage_createDevice
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:37] <lochii> zSnmpCommunity, zSnmpPort, zSnmpVer)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:40] <lochii> File "/usr/local/zenoss/Products/ZenModel/Device.py", line 180, in findCommunity
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:43] <lochii> session.setVersion(version)
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:45] <lochii> AttributeError: SnmpSession instance has no attribute 'setVersion'
[07-Apr-2008 22:18:48] <lochii> .
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:00] <mrayzenoss> danw__: patch is part of most developer environments I assume
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:09] <lochii> looking at pynetsnmp's "SnmpSession.py" , the method is clearly there:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> def setVersion(self, version):
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> if version.find('2') >= 0:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> self._version = netsnmp.SNMP_VERSION_2c
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> else:
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:16] <lochii> self._version = netsnmp.SNMP_VERSION_1
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:19] <lochii> .
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:28] <lochii> have tried to rebuilt pynetsnmp but no joy
[07-Apr-2008 22:19:48] <lochii> am not a python person, so don't know what the .pyc does, it it python compiled bytecode?
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:12] <mrayzenoss> lochii: yes
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:27] <lochii> and ideas why it doesn't find this methof
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:28] <lochii> method
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:35] <lochii> I dont have pynetsnmp installed anywhere else on the system
[07-Apr-2008 22:20:55] <lochii> and why it calls it an "attribute"
[07-Apr-2008 22:21:14] <lochii> have seen pynetsnmp 0.28 is release (this is 0.27 bundled with zenoss)
[07-Apr-2008 22:21:17] <lochii> released
[07-Apr-2008 22:22:09] <mrayzenoss> sorry, I'm just getting up to speed
[07-Apr-2008 22:22:18] <mrayzenoss> forums?
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:22] <lochii> I found one post
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:27] <lochii> no repl
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:30] <lochii> no useful replies
[07-Apr-2008 22:23:36] <lochii> so it has happened to somebody else
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:13] <lochii> so the code in Device.py does this:
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:15] <lochii> session = SnmpSession(ip, timeout=timeout, port=port, retries=retries)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> sysTableOid = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.1'
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> oid = '.1.3.6.1.2.1.1.5.0'
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> goodcommunity = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> goodversion = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:24] <lochii> devname = ""
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:26] <lochii> for version in versions:
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:29] <lochii> session.setVersion(version)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:31] <lochii> <snip>
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:34] <lochii> and it dies at "session.setVersion(version)"
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:45] <lochii> either because the session class does not have a setVersion (but I'm sure it does)
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:48] <lochii> or the session object is invalid
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:52] <lochii> either one of the two
[07-Apr-2008 22:24:55] <lochii> how can I debug this?
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:05] <lochii> I tried putting in the following lines:
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession ip = %s", ip)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession timeout = %s", timeout)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession port = %s", port)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:06] <lochii> log.debug("SnmpSession retries = %s", retries)
[07-Apr-2008 22:25:17] <lochii> but I dont know where log.debug goes, it doesn't seem to go into any of the logs I found
[07-Apr-2008 22:26:01] <lochii> I should first check that I have a valid session object shouldn't I?
[07-Apr-2008 22:26:11] <lochii> before I start accusing the module of stuffg
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:48] <lochii> and yes, I added:
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:50] <lochii> export LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:30:57] <lochii> to head of zenfunctions
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:03] <lochii> before starting zope
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:07] <lochii> and I do have /lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:31:22] <lochii> but I dont know how to check if that actually worked
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:08] <lochii> hmm
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:15] <lochii> I think I may have found the problem
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:32] <lochii> tracing through ZOPE it seems not to be hooking in properly with libcrypto.so.4
[07-Apr-2008 22:36:36] * lochii digs deeper
[07-Apr-2008 22:38:34] <lochii> I see
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[08-Apr-2008 00:11:30] <KillMeNow> hello folks
[08-Apr-2008 01:50:41] <KeithBilly> Hello, I have 2.1.3 and a monitor under ip services isn't using the ip i've defined. It keeps using the default ip. I've deleted the monitor and re-added and it won't check the right ip, what am i missing.
[08-Apr-2008 02:08:58] <KeithBilly> Can someone please point me to the work around for fixing mointors in ip services ignoring the ip address i've put in them?
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[08-Apr-2008 06:00:53] <Vco> anyone have any quick pointers on where I can start trying to determine why I'm not able to pull any CPU stats from my Linux boxes? SNMP appears to be working for everything else..
[08-Apr-2008 06:00:59] <Vco> starting to lose my mind
[08-Apr-2008 13:48:26] <julito> hi everybody
[08-Apr-2008 13:49:39] <julito> I'm newbie in zenoss
[08-Apr-2008 13:49:56] <julito> i'm trying it for 2 days and i need some help
[08-Apr-2008 13:55:20] <julito> I'm not able to have something on the network map
[08-Apr-2008 13:55:28] <julito> it's empty
[08-Apr-2008 14:20:42] <djpetro> julito: I had that problem, but I was just entering the wrong subnet. try entering the ip of your gateway (if you have it modeled)
[08-Apr-2008 14:28:05] <julito> djetro : thx, Does it matter if the gateway doesn't respond to snmp?
[08-Apr-2008 14:36:35] <djpetro> julito: I don't think so. there's also an issue with subnets in zenoss, see http://community.zenoss.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=6049
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[08-Apr-2008 14:36:57] <djpetro> julito: chet luther has a work around listed there
[08-Apr-2008 14:40:02] <julito> djpetro : thanks a lot, i will try it
[08-Apr-2008 14:46:58] <cgibbons> hmmm
[08-Apr-2008 15:53:53] <locohost> when you rename a device, you have to move the rrd folder manually if you want to keep your data, that's pretty intuitive
[08-Apr-2008 18:06:16] <twm1010> Howdyhowdy...
[08-Apr-2008 18:17:12] <idea4gud> hi i am trying to monitor win2k3 server I have zenwin, zenwinmodeler and zeneventlog running
[08-Apr-2008 18:18:44] <idea4gud> $ZENHOME/bin/zenwin --option
[08-Apr-2008 18:19:00] <idea4gud> it just retruns the pid and status msg that program is running
[08-Apr-2008 18:19:33] <idea4gud> Also when i chaeck in the Zenoss dash board
[08-Apr-2008 18:20:07] <idea4gud> it says under Events of windows device that access is denied
[08-Apr-2008 18:20:14] <idea4gud> what could be possible reason
[08-Apr-2008 18:23:09] <djpetro> idea4gud: you might need to specify a username and password. checkout zWinUser and zWinPassword under the zProperties of the windows server
[08-Apr-2008 18:25:58] <idea4gud> yeah i need to specify zwinuser as the zpassword as password of Windows server
[08-Apr-2008 18:57:36] <idea4gud> djpetro: i specifed user id and password in my windows server zproperties as the user id and password of my windows machine
[08-Apr-2008 18:58:13] <idea4gud> but it still shows just same error
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:25] <djpetro> idea4gud: if it's a domain user, make sure you specify domain\username
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:44] <djpetro> also, try remodeling or deleting and recreating the device
[08-Apr-2008 18:59:46] <idea4gud> also I have added WInService as Application management But it doesnt provide me information
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[08-Apr-2008 20:10:13] <mrayzenoss> So are there any Zenoss employees on here besides myself?
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[08-Apr-2008 21:26:11] <idea4gud> I am able to run winexe service from console on my zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 21:26:35] <idea4gud> but i am not getting the desired response from zenwin and zenwinmodeler
[08-Apr-2008 21:26:42] <idea4gud> can any body help me plz
[08-Apr-2008 21:28:21] <idea4gud> locohost: are you still around
[08-Apr-2008 21:31:17] <magnachef> he's leaving
[08-Apr-2008 21:31:34] * magnachef works with locohost
[08-Apr-2008 21:33:09] <idea4gud> magna: can i ask you look at my query
[08-Apr-2008 21:33:24] <idea4gud> confused ;)
[08-Apr-2008 21:34:15] <idea4gud> magna: i am able to get right response with ./winexe but when i try running zenwin and zenwinmodeller and eventlog
[08-Apr-2008 21:35:53] <magnachef> I don't use windows systems, but I'll take a look
[08-Apr-2008 21:36:29] <idea4gud> Ok i checked with zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 21:36:45] <idea4gud> on server for zeneventlog it says heartbeat failure
[08-Apr-2008 21:37:43] <magnachef> hmm...
[08-Apr-2008 21:39:31] <magnachef> not sure what the issue is...what does heartbeat refer to?
[08-Apr-2008 21:39:35] <magnachef> is it timing out?
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:17] <idea4gud> please pardon any silly questions but i am was just wondering do we need to install any other zenpack or something tp monitor windows machine
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:32] <idea4gud> as of now i have SNMP enabled and DCOM running
[08-Apr-2008 22:44:48] <idea4gud> Performed wbemtest successfully
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:20] <idea4gud> but still the zenwinmodeller says my windows machine has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:27] <idea4gud> any hints
[08-Apr-2008 22:45:48] <magnachef> I don't think so, you just have to put it under the /Devices/Windows class
[08-Apr-2008 22:46:34] <magnachef> and make sure that snmp is running on the server, and that you have the correct community string and that you have permission to poll it from your zenoss server
[08-Apr-2008 22:46:58] <idea4gud> yes
[08-Apr-2008 22:47:47] <idea4gud> the error it says zen.zenwinmodeler has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:07] <idea4gud> the error it says zen.zenwinmodeler node 146 has bad WMI state
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:19] <magnachef> ahhh, so you're polling it via WMI and not SNMP?
[08-Apr-2008 22:48:56] <idea4gud> well first i setup SNMP
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:02] <idea4gud> i got this discovered
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:06] <idea4gud> on the network
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:19] <idea4gud> but it didnt provide me any further info i was looking for
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:37] <idea4gud> then i followed the docment that said about Monitoring Windows devices
[08-Apr-2008 22:49:50] <magnachef> maybe WMI isn't available/running/etc on the windows server?
[08-Apr-2008 22:50:24] <idea4gud> well i did perform wbemtest it ran successfully
[08-Apr-2008 22:53:05] <idea4gud> i checked the WMi was running fine
[08-Apr-2008 22:55:13] <magnachef> not sure...WMI is not my strong suit
[08-Apr-2008 22:56:09] <idea4gud> ok thanx anyways for ur help
[08-Apr-2008 22:59:09] <magnachef> no problem
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[09-Apr-2008 10:45:00] <henkka_> I have a rather simple question that I can't find an answer from the zenoss web page, wiki or irc logs; Should "System Update" work for the VMWare Appliance beta 2.2?
[09-Apr-2008 10:46:17] <henkka_> doing 'conary repquery --install-label zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core' works
[09-Apr-2008 10:46:28] <henkka_> but 'conary repquery --install-label zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta' does not
[09-Apr-2008 11:49:40] <henkka_> Just to make sure this at least makes it to the IRC logs; selecting "System Update" from the rPath web interface gives: "Looking for available updates ...
[09-Apr-2008 11:49:43] <henkka_> Failed: (Unknown Exception Type) group-zenoss was not found on path zenoss-project.zenoss.loc@zenoss:core-beta"
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:03] <danw__> hey guys getting a small error
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:05] <danw__> during install
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:07] <danw__> *****
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> installing pysnmp
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> unpacking Twisted-2.5.0 in build/
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> /bin/sh: bzip2: command not found
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:20] <danw__> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: build/Twisted-2.5.0: No such file or directory
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:23] <danw__> can't find file to patch at input line 3
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:25] <danw__> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:28] <danw__> The text leading up to this was:
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:30] <danw__> --------------------------
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:33] <danw__> |--- TwistedCore-2.5.0/twisted/internet/process.py.orig 2006-12-27 11:42:32.000000000 -0500
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:36] <danw__> |+++ TwistedCore-2.5.0/twisted/internet/process.py 2006-12-27 11:42:38.000000000 -0500
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:40] <danw__> --------------------------
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:42] <danw__> File to patch:
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:45] <danw__> ****
[09-Apr-2008 13:10:47] <danw__> anyone got any ideas
[09-Apr-2008 13:14:20] <henkka_> danw__: at least you're missing bzip2, start by installing that
[09-Apr-2008 13:16:13] <henkka_> danw__: the second error is most likely caused by the first one (file is not found, since it has not been unpacked from the archive)
[09-Apr-2008 13:25:07] <danw__> henkka_: thanks that seemed to have worked :)
[09-Apr-2008 13:25:29] <danw__> also am i correct in saying that i can install nagios plugins to zenoss?
[09-Apr-2008 15:59:19] <danw__> how can i remove zenoss from my debian box, i'm not really impressed with it?
[09-Apr-2008 16:07:10] <mrayzenoss> danw__: I assume everything is in /usr/local/zenoss
[09-Apr-2008 16:07:23] <mrayzenoss> danw__: anything specifically you didn't like?
[09-Apr-2008 17:12:50] <JVirus> anyone to help a noob for a minute?
[09-Apr-2008 17:12:53] <JVirus> :D
[09-Apr-2008 17:13:34] <JVirus> I nstalled Zenoss to Vmware, I also got the SNMP services running on my windows 2003 server
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:03] <JVirus> do I need to install something on my server to speak with zenoss or where is the windows configuration and some documentation on how it all integrates?
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:28] <JVirus> I have a SNMP book but it talkes about it while installing some other SNMP book because he doesnt like windows
[09-Apr-2008 17:14:34] <JVirus> not very helpfull
[09-Apr-2008 17:18:38] <JVirus> O.o
[09-Apr-2008 17:38:23] <idea4gud> Hi need a help with anyone for Windows monitoring
[09-Apr-2008 17:38:34] <idea4gud> Can anybody help me
[09-Apr-2008 17:42:33] <idea4gud> is there anyone around
[09-Apr-2008 17:43:14] <idea4gud> stuck with this problem zen.zenwinmodeler Skipping node 146 has bad WMI state
[09-Apr-2008 17:47:25] <idea4gud> do i need to install Zenwin on WIndows server
[09-Apr-2008 18:10:35] <jp10558> no
[09-Apr-2008 18:10:49] <jp10558> you don't need to install Zenwin
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[09-Apr-2008 19:31:59] <aedaemoen> hello guys...
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:03] <idea4gud> jp: i have this error that i am trying to debug since 2 days Bad WMI state
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:33] <idea4gud> Now i checked this wiki :http://dev.zenoss.org/trac/wiki/HowToSetupZenWin
[09-Apr-2008 19:35:47] <__adytum-bot__> Title: HowToSetupZenWin - Zenoss - Trac (at dev.zenoss.org)
[09-Apr-2008 19:39:27] <idea4gud> I am meeting all the requirements for the Windows machine
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[09-Apr-2008 20:40:28] <JVirus> I am new to linux and vmware, I finally figured out how to configrue snmp to run on my server but how do I get hamachi to run on zenoss server?
[09-Apr-2008 20:41:34] <JVirus> I looked thru the forums but didnt find anything
[09-Apr-2008 20:48:02] <BRKA> hi, quick question: I have a device that appears in the device issues portlet but the device itself has no issues or events, deleting and adding it again did not fix it. Any ideas ?
[09-Apr-2008 21:05:33] <mray> BRKA: You'll probably want to wipe the events status table
[09-Apr-2008 21:18:12] <BRKA> mray: k, found it in /Events/Net/Link. It appears that snmp trap sent by this device BEFORE it was added caused this. Thanks.
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[09-Apr-2008 22:26:55] <idea4gud> Push changes do in /devices/server/Windows
[09-Apr-2008 22:52:37] <idea4gud> can u please any1 help me understanding this post : pastebin.ca/978928
[09-Apr-2008 22:56:17] * idea4gud struggling
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[10-Apr-2008 05:47:41] <e^ipi> heyas
[10-Apr-2008 06:44:54] <henkka_> anyone here who knows how the VMWare appliance is supposed to work? Still need answer to my question from yesterday.
[10-Apr-2008 06:47:01] <henkka_> Or am I incorrect in my assumption that the VMWare appliance is supposed to be a carbon-copy of the preferred installation method on Linux systems? It strikes me as odd that for example the zenpack command won't work and one must use conary instead (that is somehow related to the rPath platform). Why not just provide WMWare image with the suggested Linux platform, if the VMWare appliance is not supported during development?
[10-Apr-2008 06:51:59] <e^ipi> I don't think anyone's around this late at night
[10-Apr-2008 08:07:19] <henkka_> e^ipi: I posted the question 22 hours ago, I guess no-one checks the irc logs?
[10-Apr-2008 08:08:19] <henkka_> I'll just file this as a bug then.
[10-Apr-2008 12:46:36] <jp10558> Anyone know why a command datasource would work if I manually run zencommand, but not through the normal polling?
[10-Apr-2008 12:57:56] <Bulwinkle> jp10558: ummmm not really, but I'm not using any zencommands
[10-Apr-2008 13:04:56] <nemo__> hoi
[10-Apr-2008 13:57:30] <locohost> anyone know a good source for info on adding devices through api?
[10-Apr-2008 14:09:31] <nemo__> api ?
[10-Apr-2008 14:09:38] <nemo__> i didnt know there was one
[10-Apr-2008 14:12:52] <locohost> wget 'http://admin::YADDAYADDA@localhost:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/addLocation?deviceName=IP-NUMBER&devicePath=/New`
[10-Apr-2008 14:12:58] <locohost> something like that, to add devices
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[10-Apr-2008 14:24:18] <nemo__> locohost, i was aware of that, but i wouldnt call that an API :P
[10-Apr-2008 14:24:29] <nemo__> id call it doing a wget on a url and passing an arg
[10-Apr-2008 14:26:14] <locohost> heh, yeah, im trying to figure out exactly how i want to hit what url, what i did above doesnt seem to work. also, i am running the script from that box, so i might be able to use zendmd or something, not exactly sure
[10-Apr-2008 14:27:28] <nemo__> for i in `cat nldevices2.txt`; do wget -o >/dev/null "http://admin:password@MYHOSTNAME:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=$i&devicePath=/Discovered" ; done
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[10-Apr-2008 14:28:04] <nemo__> for i in `cat nldevices2.txt`; do wget "http://admin:password@MYHOSTNAME:8080/zport/dmd/DeviceLoader/loadDevice?deviceName=$i&devicePath=/Discovered" ; done
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[10-Apr-2008 14:28:18] <nemo__> w/e __adytum-bot__
[10-Apr-2008 14:28:26] <nemo__> someone shoot that bot
[10-Apr-2008 14:29:04] <nemo__> so your trying to set the location in yours locohost
[10-Apr-2008 14:29:10] <nemo__> not add a device
[10-Apr-2008 14:31:14] <locohost> that might explain why it didnt work
[10-Apr-2008 14:31:15] <locohost> :)
[10-Apr-2008 14:40:24] <Blinny> How can I change the severity of reported traps? For example, I have a server with two PSs, and when one is removed, the severity of 'redundancy lost' is only 2 I think. I'd like to red-flag the server when this occurs.
[10-Apr-2008 14:41:17] <nemo__> use a transform to adjust it
[10-Apr-2008 14:43:51] <Blinny> nemo__: I see in the admin guide on page 87 where it talks about this. Thank you - I'll do some reading.
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:13] <nemo__> no probs bob ;p
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:37] <Blinny> I'm glad I found you.
[10-Apr-2008 14:44:40] <Blinny> Sorry... couldn't help it.
[10-Apr-2008 15:03:08] <nemo__> hehe
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[10-Apr-2008 18:30:08] <idea4gud> the windows server which i am trying to monitor has doesnt hav domain group or domain
[10-Apr-2008 18:30:19] <idea4gud> do i need to hav this to hav WMI working correctly
[10-Apr-2008 18:30:29] <idea4gud> bcz since mine is local system account
[10-Apr-2008 19:21:45] <idea4gud> I am getting this Error in 3 modules while monitoring Windows machine I did try remodellingthe device
[10-Apr-2008 19:21:57] <idea4gud> also moved the events to the history
[10-Apr-2008 19:22:05] <idea4gud> but nothing is working out
[10-Apr-2008 19:22:25] <idea4gud> Error_Net_write_fault
[10-Apr-2008 19:38:08] <idea4gud> is there any1 around here
[10-Apr-2008 20:02:04] <henkka_> idea4gud: not for the last day or two, at least :/
[10-Apr-2008 20:08:47] <idea4gud> So u mean zenoss community has taken a break
[10-Apr-2008 20:09:20] <idea4gud> enjoying the spring on beaches of miami :)
[10-Apr-2008 20:46:04] <codestr0m> Ok.. maybe/certainly it's been brought up before, but I'd like to port zenoss over to postgresql
[10-Apr-2008 20:46:52] <codestr0m> I'm not sure how actively you're changing the scheme, but depending on how a conversation goes tomorrow if I do this maybe I can send the patch upstream?
[10-Apr-2008 20:50:32] <`m3> hey codestr0m ,i am not a dev, just a user
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:02] <codestr0m> `m3 : ok?
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:06] <`m3> but does it need porting, i would have assumed that zenoss / zope uses some kind of db lyer, adob or whatever
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:31] <codestr0m>  `m3 have you read the install guide?
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> 1.1. Major Dependencies
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> ---------------------------------------------------------------
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:50] <codestr0m> - MySQL 5.0.x
[10-Apr-2008 20:51:55] <`m3> i guess i must have missed anything about postgress automatically
[10-Apr-2008 20:52:37] <codestr0m> it may be a trivial port of triggers + scheme, but a port never-the-less
[10-Apr-2008 20:52:43] <codestr0m> I haven't looked into it too deeply
[10-Apr-2008 20:53:00] <codestr0m> will discuss options tomorrow. just wanted to ping the channel and see if anyone cares
[10-Apr-2008 20:53:51] <`m3> kool
[10-Apr-2008 21:13:22] <idea4gud> can i monitor the event log on windows machines with out using WMI
[10-Apr-2008 21:13:35] <idea4gud> since i have an error with WMI
[10-Apr-2008 21:20:29] <npmccallum> can someone talk to me a bit how collector data is used?
[10-Apr-2008 21:20:45] <npmccallum> I want to write a collector for NetApps to collect filesystem stats
[10-Apr-2008 21:21:15] <npmccallum> I'd like these stats to be shown on the "OS / File Systems" page
[10-Apr-2008 21:21:53] <npmccallum> but I don't really understand what a relMap and an objectMap are and how they map to these various values
[10-Apr-2008 21:37:19] <`m3> npmccallum, they are called collector plugins
[10-Apr-2008 21:38:57] <`m3> probably you can find a sample py collector script if you do a find or similar under /opt/zenoss
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:18] <npmccallum> `m3: I realize that
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:27] <npmccallum> `m3: but none of them are documented
[10-Apr-2008 21:39:41] <npmccallum> and so it isn't obvious how they work
[10-Apr-2008 21:40:27] <`m3> well its all pretty new to me too, but most collectors do an snmp get on an oid right ?
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:13] <npmccallum> sure, that part is obvious
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:20] <npmccallum> but what does Zenoss then do with that data
[10-Apr-2008 21:44:25] <npmccallum> that is not so obvious
[10-Apr-2008 21:48:45] <b52laptop> hi
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[11-Apr-2008 04:50:11] <mf2ng> any1 got active directory to work? i managed to get auth working, but after dashboard zenoss replies with HTTP 302, temporarily moved
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[11-Apr-2008 07:15:22] <nemo_> morning
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[11-Apr-2008 08:59:58] <_Skid> Hi..
[11-Apr-2008 09:00:38] <_Skid> I have a problem with event mappings
[11-Apr-2008 09:01:38] <_Skid> I have played around with it for a week.. and I cannot understand it.
[11-Apr-2008 09:10:52] <_Skid> the event that I recive is default mapped to eventClass /Perf/Snmp .. in that class I have made a EventClass Mappings with the regex on ".*" or what ever.(tryed everything) and the zAction is set to move the event to history or drop.. but I cannot get it to work.
[11-Apr-2008 09:15:34] <nemo_> ohhh transforms !
[11-Apr-2008 09:15:52] <nemo_> if you dont have a component in the event, use a class level transform
[11-Apr-2008 09:16:20] <nemo_> e.g. goto /Events /App and more-> transform
[11-Apr-2008 09:16:35] <_Skid> I have diffrent components on that event.
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:18] <nemo_> _Skid, you should see an event count for ones that match your regex
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:22] <_Skid> do I realy need to transform it?.. I just want to drop or move the event to history
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:35] <nemo_> theres probably no need for a transform when the component is present
[11-Apr-2008 09:17:46] <nemo_> use a regex and set to drop the the zproperties
[11-Apr-2008 09:18:06] <nemo_> ( i just made a page at work documenting transforms ! )
[11-Apr-2008 09:21:22] <_Skid> I have made: events->perf->snmp Add mapping -> Regex: "Error.*" example: "Error reading value for "lo" on hostname (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10.1 is bad)" zProperties: action drop.
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:09] <nemo_> ^Error.*
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:24] <nemo_> i transformed that too
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:40] <nemo_> make sure you component in the transform is the same as the one in the event log
[11-Apr-2008 09:22:53] <_Skid> bbl. lunch.
[11-Apr-2008 13:35:09] <mzolisi> hi\
[11-Apr-2008 13:40:25] <nemo_> lo/
[11-Apr-2008 14:52:46] <likuidkewl> Anyone know where to find the latest PERC6i MIBS from Dell for a PE2950?
[11-Apr-2008 14:55:16] <nemo_> dell?
[11-Apr-2008 15:21:30] <likuidkewl> Sorry to ask again but we are looking for information on using Zenoss with the Dell PE2900 w/PERC/6i. We have most of the components monitoring just fine but these PERC/6i controllers. Any information is greatly appreciated
[11-Apr-2008 15:41:59] <mrayzenoss> likuidkewl: I'd probably have to agree with nemo_ , Dell should have those available.
[11-Apr-2008 15:42:03] <mrayzenoss> if not, try http://mibdepot.com
[11-Apr-2008 15:42:51] <likuidkewl> Thanks, I had a dropped connection and missed the reply.
[11-Apr-2008 15:43:34] <mrayzenoss> good luck
[11-Apr-2008 16:23:50] <_Skid> I have a problem with an event Transform.... Im not any python coder.. but.. this is what I have...
[11-Apr-2008 16:23:57] <_Skid> if evt.message.find("Error reading value for \"lo\" on hostname (oid .1.3.6.1.2.1.31.1.1.1.10.1 is bad) ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:05] <_Skid> and this is kind of what I want to do..
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:09] <_Skid> if evt.message.find("Error reading value for \".*\" on .* (oid .* is bad) ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:24:21] <_Skid> how do I make it work? ;)
[11-Apr-2008 16:31:58] <nemo_> again, is there a component listed ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:09] <nemo_> i am transforming the same oid error event
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> # get the event summary but make sure to return None if it shouldn't exist for some reason
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> s = getattr(evt, "summary", None)
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> # check to see whether or not we have a summary
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> if s:
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:47] <nemo_> if s.find("Error reading value for") > -1:
[11-Apr-2008 16:32:48] <nemo_> evt._action = "drop"
[11-Apr-2008 16:33:04] <_Skid> diffrent components
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:28] <nemo_> there are two possible places for transforms btw
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:30] <_Skid> but isnt that the same as: if evt.message.find("Error reading value for ") >= 0:
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:30] <_Skid> ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:39] <nemo_> one is an event mapping
[11-Apr-2008 16:34:46] <nemo_> the other is the class level
[11-Apr-2008 16:35:14] <nemo_> whats after your:
[11-Apr-2008 16:35:36] <nemo_> and it doesnt glow red in zenoss ( theres some form of syntax checking that turns it red )
[11-Apr-2008 16:36:58] <nemo_> i try to make my regex's simple as poss
[11-Apr-2008 16:38:08] <_Skid> I wouldnt call that an regexp.. its just a matter of finding one string within the string.
[11-Apr-2008 16:38:59] <nemo_> ("Error reading value for \".*\" on .* (oid .* is bad) ")
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:08] <nemo_> the ('s need escaping for sure
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:19] <_Skid> yea.
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:27] <_Skid> but that is what I want to do
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:31] <_Skid> its not working.
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:35] <nemo_> gotta go home now, gl with it
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:42] <nemo_> so simplify
[11-Apr-2008 16:39:56] <nemo_> ^Error.*oid.*
[11-Apr-2008 16:40:08] <_Skid> dont work..
[11-Apr-2008 16:41:23] <nemo_> >=1 ?
[11-Apr-2008 16:41:36] <nemo_> i dunno , gtg , later
[11-Apr-2008 17:26:58] <twm1010> does anyone here have a good understanding of exactly how performance templates get auto-applied to interfaces?
[11-Apr-2008 17:33:36] <magnachef> I believe that any interface just matches the ethernetCsmacd template unless there are others that match the interface name
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:13] <twm1010> ok
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:23] <twm1010> so if i build a template containing that interface type, it uses that instead?
[11-Apr-2008 17:35:25] <twm1010> that makes sense
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:10] <magnachef> so if you create an interface type of eth1 for /device/servers/linux, it will only apply that to eth1 interfaces within that class
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:22] <magnachef> at least that's how I believe it to work
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:36] <twm1010> and if i remodel, a device, it auto-reassigns the template i wonder?
[11-Apr-2008 17:36:41] <twm1010> i will test :-D
[11-Apr-2008 17:37:16] <magnachef> I'm actually wrestling with having it not alert for my bond0 interfaces, as they show up as 10 Mbps for some reason
[11-Apr-2008 17:37:34] <magnachef> so I'm going over the 75% threshold
[11-Apr-2008 17:38:53] <magnachef> not sure how to change the interface Type though to match the template
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:04] <magnachef> i think that's what's messing me up
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:07] <twm1010> well ya know, i'd like to differentiate between a serial link and a controller
[11-Apr-2008 17:39:18] <twm1010> its okay that the serial ones grab ethernetCSmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:08] <twm1010> hrmm, i know our multilink virtual interfaces show with a speed that is the sum of all that serial links part of the multilink
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:31] <magnachef> yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to make my bond0 interfaces not be of Type ethernetCsmacd
[11-Apr-2008 17:40:40] <magnachef> if anyone knows, do tell :-)
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:40] <twm1010> remodeling now...
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:46] <twm1010> i see now where to get the "type"
[11-Apr-2008 17:42:53] <twm1010> i was going of the interface name showing up
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:06] <twm1010> This makes so much more sense now :|
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:42] <twm1010> i'll be damned... it works
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:51] <twm1010> now you would think they'd have standard templates for your average controllers
[11-Apr-2008 17:43:54] <twm1010> ds1, ds3, etc.
[11-Apr-2008 17:45:22] <magnachef> so how did you ge